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Nice to meet you prof.

Is that all?

Dumaknesset:
Professor Akin Oyebode is an interviewer’s delight and much more. A natural teacher who measures his success by the success of his products in the marketplace of life, STEPHEN UBIMAGO writes that the more Oyebodes of this world there are, the better for the country…
At the Faculty of Law of the University of Lagos, where he teaches Jurisprudence and International Law, the revered Professor Akin Oyebode not only evokes the image of a consummate intellectual with his bouncy hoary hair, brilliant command of the language, excellent lecture delivery, poise and all; he is also for all this greatly admired and loved by students and the faculty alike.
Thus, one could easily sense the satiation his students exude even from a distance, as it is not hard to tell its source: a sense of privilege from being taught and mentored by such a seasoned legal scholar, for whom other law faculties are willing and ready to trade their legs and arms to acquire.
Indeed, the University boasts one of the largest law faculties (teaching staff of professors and lecturers) in Nigeria, however in conversations among themselves, a student’s indication like, “I have Prof’s class today,” require no further explication as to who the curt appellation of “Prof” referred to.
Not many are aware however that part of the influences that molded him and imbued the accomplished academic with his unmistakable urbaneness and élan is the fact that he is a also the product of a middle-class background.
In an interview, he gave this indication thusly: “If you lived in the GRAs under colonialism, you don’t need anyone to tell you the type of upbringing that I had. With the friends I had, there was no serious challenge. I had all the things that young people of my type were supposed to have.
“I had good atmosphere. I enjoyed riding bicycles, playing with toys, watching cartoons, solving puzzles, painting with crayons and everything that I wanted. At that time, we lived ‘Sheltered life’. It was a different lifestyle for children who lived in the GRA. We were all of middle class potentials.
“We had television and telephone when it was introduced in Nigeria. I went to school with people from Southern Police College, Shogunle, Maboju village and from GRA.
“I don’t know what the GRA looks like now. I think it is a different thing now. In our time, there were no walls unlike now that GRA is surrounded with walls. What we had then were hedges with people’s names written on the gates of the house.
“I believe nobody will be bold enough to do that now. We just had gardens, courts, gardeners, hedges well trimmed and properly taken care of and that was the GRA of the 50s. I remember the first time, an all-night party was held in Ikoyi at late Justice Agoro’s residence and people were gassed.
“We used to have Public Works Department, PWD that changed our bulbs regularly. All the colonial structures were built for white people. The few African families that were living in the GRA were grudgingly tolerated.
“There were special shops including Kingsway in the GRA. The Europeans had their Lagos Country Club which admitted only the Europeans. The Lagos Country Club then was located in what is now called Murtala Mohammed Airport.
“My family was among the few African families who lived a sheltered and protected life during the colonial era. Those who lived in these special areas had quality of life which was superior then. I have the most fascinating experience as a child. And growing up was fun.”
Oyebode is a professor of professors; a natural teacher for whom teaching is the end-all-and-be-all, a profession for which there is no match.
Having taught Law for over 40 years, most of which period was spent in Unilag, he indicated that he derives his fulfillment from watching his products ride the tide of happy exploits in the legal profession.
He explained thus: “When I came to University of Lagos, I didn’t give it a second thought to choose an academic for a profession.
“I see my success in the success of my students. I have taught over 20 Judges in Lagos State. Some of them are in the Court of Appeal, while others have either been Governors or Deputy Governors.
“There was a time I counted seven Attorneys General in this country that have passed through my class. For me, this is enough satisfaction.”
Professors Taiwo Osipitan, Imran Smith, Amos Utuama, among others are all of the Faculty; they’ve all taken silk as Senior Advocates of Nigeria (SAN) too.
Interestingly, they’d been Oyebode’s students at the Faculty. But Prof has no enthusiasm to take silk. He says he is very contented being an academic and attaining the apogee of his career as professor.
His students have often recalled how he’d habitually interjected his lecturers with riling excoriation of the institution of SANship and about how his former students who could make his elevation to the rank easily happen had practically begged him to apply for it so they could act as facilitators. He’d however politely declined with, “thank you” for their gratuitous solicitation.
He stated in this connection that “Some people proposed that I should become a Senior Advocate of Nigeria but I opted out.
“I don’t know what I need a SAN for. I studied hard as a professor. Professorship is the highest level of attainment in a University. Every other thing is in-between, be it a head of a department, dean or vice chancellor.
“After serving as a vice chancellor, I came back to teach. I am totally fulfilled in the job that I do. I don’t try to please anyone because I feel a sense of absolute freedom and fulfillment when I’m doing what I love doing.
“I’ve never done anything outside the academic world except when I was a radio broadcaster after my Form Six. I’ve been in the academic world either as a teacher or as a manager.”
Prof. Oyebode has never hidden his vivacious love for Unilag. Aside from the fact that he did cut his academic teeth in the University and grew to become a professor of Law in the institution, Unilag also produced the woman who later became his wife. Interestingly, too, many of his children are products of the institution.
According to him, “My wife studied in the University of Lagos but I didn’t know her then until her National Youth Service Corps, NYSC year.
“We met on a blind date and it was just a relationship made in heaven. God enabled us to come together. I met a woman who shared my pan-Africanism as well as my radical socialist sentiments and we have been married for 33 years.”
Oyebode’s may have shed much of his socialist proclivity but like old habits that die hard, he still espouses its vestiges, a tell-tale of his university training in defunct Soviet Russia.
He explains: “I was inspired to be an academic by one of my professors in Kiev State University, Kiev, Ukraine who become a member of the International Law Commission.
“He taught me to be dedicated and diligent to work. So, I thought it will be wise to emulate such a dedicated lecturer.
“My first three years were frustrating in the Faculty of Law, University of Lagos. I was not given a subject to teach. My colleagues thought all I knew was guerrilla warfare but after a while, I was allowed to teach.
“It was a funny scenario but it’s no longer the case with graduate Soviet Institutions of Economy. I was the first Soviet trained lawyer to be appointed into an academic position in any Nigerian University.
“And as a pioneer, there was a price to pay. For instance, I was denied admission to the Nigerian Law School for sixteen years because no graduate of Soviet Institutions would be admitted to the Nigerian Law School.
“But, my friend, Jelili Omotola, fought a human battle to ensure that those of us who had taught Law for at least five years could be allowed into the Law School.
“At that time, I had a ten years experience as a lecturer. That is why I have only 20 years post-call experience. I was called to the bar in 1991.
“Another challenge was getting a doctorate. I never thought that I needed a doctorate but my friend, Jelili Omotola advised me to pursue my doctorate degree.
“He said, PhD is another qualification, for without an ultimate qualification, there is certainty that people will doubt one’s competence despite one’s brilliancy.
Omotola convinced me that there is nothing to be compared with a PhD. So, I thought it wise to go to Toronto in 1981 to pursue a doctorate in Law, after obtaining a Master of Laws (LLM) from Harvard University, Boston, Massachusetts, USA.
Born in Ado-Ekiti on December 9, 1947, Professor Oyebode hails from Ikole Ekiti.
He was the Vice Chancellor of Ekiti State University (formerly University of Ado Ekiti, UNAD) and currently a Professor of International Law and Jurisprudence at the University of Lagos.

With all these the old fool don't know that self determination goes with referendum, with all these the idiot can't differentiate between referendum and war then what will he teach his student?

Dumaknesset:
Professor Akin Oyebode is an interviewer’s delight and much more. A natural teacher who measures his success by the success of his products in the marketplace of life, STEPHEN UBIMAGO writes that the more Oyebodes of this world there are, the better for the country…
At the Faculty of Law of the University of Lagos, where he teaches Jurisprudence and International Law, the revered Professor Akin Oyebode not only evokes the image of a consummate intellectual with his bouncy hoary hair, brilliant command of the language, excellent lecture delivery, poise and all; he is also for all this greatly admired and loved by students and the faculty alike.
Thus, one could easily sense the satiation his students exude even from a distance, as it is not hard to tell its source: a sense of privilege from being taught and mentored by such a seasoned legal scholar, for whom other law faculties are willing and ready to trade their legs and arms to acquire.
Indeed, the University boasts one of the largest law faculties (teaching staff of professors and lecturers) in Nigeria, however in conversations among themselves, a student’s indication like, “I have Prof’s class today,” require no further explication as to who the curt appellation of “Prof” referred to.
Not many are aware however that part of the influences that molded him and imbued the accomplished academic with his unmistakable urbaneness and élan is the fact that he is a also the product of a middle-class background.
In an interview, he gave this indication thusly: “If you lived in the GRAs under colonialism, you don’t need anyone to tell you the type of upbringing that I had. With the friends I had, there was no serious challenge. I had all the things that young people of my type were supposed to have.
“I had good atmosphere. I enjoyed riding bicycles, playing with toys, watching cartoons, solving puzzles, painting with crayons and everything that I wanted. At that time, we lived ‘Sheltered life’. It was a different lifestyle for children who lived in the GRA. We were all of middle class potentials.
“We had television and telephone when it was introduced in Nigeria. I went to school with people from Southern Police College, Shogunle, Maboju village and from GRA.
“I don’t know what the GRA looks like now. I think it is a different thing now. In our time, there were no walls unlike now that GRA is surrounded with walls. What we had then were hedges with people’s names written on the gates of the house.
“I believe nobody will be bold enough to do that now. We just had gardens, courts, gardeners, hedges well trimmed and properly taken care of and that was the GRA of the 50s. I remember the first time, an all-night party was held in Ikoyi at late Justice Agoro’s residence and people were gassed.
“We used to have Public Works Department, PWD that changed our bulbs regularly. All the colonial structures were built for white people. The few African families that were living in the GRA were grudgingly tolerated.
“There were special shops including Kingsway in the GRA. The Europeans had their Lagos Country Club which admitted only the Europeans. The Lagos Country Club then was located in what is now called Murtala Mohammed Airport.
“My family was among the few African families who lived a sheltered and protected life during the colonial era. Those who lived in these special areas had quality of life which was superior then. I have the most fascinating experience as a child. And growing up was fun.”
Oyebode is a professor of professors; a natural teacher for whom teaching is the end-all-and-be-all, a profession for which there is no match.
Having taught Law for over 40 years, most of which period was spent in Unilag, he indicated that he derives his fulfillment from watching his products ride the tide of happy exploits in the legal profession.
He explained thus: “When I came to University of Lagos, I didn’t give it a second thought to choose an academic for a profession.
“I see my success in the success of my students. I have taught over 20 Judges in Lagos State. Some of them are in the Court of Appeal, while others have either been Governors or Deputy Governors.
“There was a time I counted seven Attorneys General in this country that have passed through my class. For me, this is enough satisfaction.”
Professors Taiwo Osipitan, Imran Smith, Amos Utuama, among others are all of the Faculty; they’ve all taken silk

these ugu-stuffed brain in flat'heads won't read this to understand.

9jabull:
With all these the old fool don't know that self determination goes with referendum, with all these the idiot can't differentiate between referendum and war then what will he teach his student?

you guys are the fools cos you can't differentiate.

laudate:
Is there a clause on referendum within the Nigerian constitution? If you believe there is, then kindly cite it here, quoting the relevant sections. Prof. Oyebode has just told you guys, the position of the Nigerian law as it is, with respect to the UN clause on self-determination, not the position of the law as it ought to be. And you are still here comparing Scotland, Brexit, Catalonia etc., with the Nigerian situation. Scotland has provisions for referendum in its laws, Nigeria does not! Your focus should be how to get your own international law experts and constitutional lawyers to give you advice on how to insert a clause on referendum into the current constitution!

At the bold part, they don't need the advice of "international law experts...", what is the work of their Senators and House Members? This is to tell you that they are mere bunch of joker's.

Believe me, all these Biafra, IPOB and restructuring noise and brouhaha will fade away the moment Buhari and his APC loses power at the centre. Go and write it down. Then Nnamdi Kanu will now become a political big wig in the South East, who will be determining who gets what from the political booties of this present battle; he's only preparing the ground. Watch it.

One thing about the agitators is that they don't have a comprehensive knowledge of what they're trying to achieve, when sound logic and evidences are been presented by those who know better they tend to resort to ad hominem attacks against such people. I pray they don't self destruct

laudate:
Sir, you are the one bereft of sound knowledge of international law. You chaps are insulting the professor for telling you the law as it is, if the UN clause on self-determination is reviewed within the context of the Nigerian constitution. Are you aware there is also a UN article that recognises sovereignty and territorial integrity? If you go to a Nigerian court today, to file a case asking for self-determination based on the UN Charter, how do you think the judge would rule?

Go back & study the ICJ ruling on the Nigeria vs. Cameroun case before you come in here to start misyarning. Did the Bakassi people of South Cameroun go to the court asking for self-determination? Gowon had ceded the portion of Bakassi that was in contention to Cameroun when he was Head of State, so from boundary delineation, colonial maps and the agreement Gowon made earlier, the ICJ ruled in favour of Cameroun. Documents released by the Camerounians, also clearly placed Bakassi under Cameroonian Territory as a consequence of colonial era Anglo-German agreements. Get your facts straight! :

Please go and read the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People. It contains several articles that are in favour of the Indigenous People and their rights. But in Article 46, that same declaration includes a caveat:

Thank you for calling in aid the provisions of the UN Charter especially article 46. But it would seem that you failed to see the essence of that caveat, as you put it. I don't want to believe that you would want the UN to recognize a right, affirm it and still go around to affirm principles that would defeat the same rights. And you don't expect the charter to be seen to encourage dismemberment of states in a manner that could cause chaos, especially in view of the concept of uti posidetis juris which discourages division of boundaries established after independence of a state from colonial rule.
However, for you to understand why the so called caveat was made you can draw analogy from matrimonial causes:

The matrimonial causes act and rules including the marriage act cannot be said to encourage divorce, can they? But they recognize the rights of a spouse to exit a marriage regardless of the 3 years period or the grounds that marriage has broken down irretrievably.
The charter merely says it does not want to be seen to be encouraging upheavals or acts aimed at dismemberment of states, it does not say it abhors it or does not recognize dismemberment of states as a result of self determination. Recognizing and affirming the right to self determination on the one hand and encouraging on the other hand are entirely different matters. Try and understand the niceties and nuances in interpretation of legal instruments.

Self determination as a right of indigenous people is not litigable as such talking about going to court to enforce rights to it or referendum is missing the point.

I referred you to the Abacha case and Cameroun case for you to understand the place of domestic legislative instruments (the constitution inclusive) and positive international law especially jus cogens. If you read those cases and appreciate arguments put forward by parties, especially by the Nigerian government, and the reasoning of the court, you will better appreciate the point I am making. It's not necessarily about what Gowon did or didn't, colonial maps and all that.

mbhs139:
At the bold part, they don't need the advice of "international law experts...", what is the work of their Senators and House Members? This is to tell you that they are mere bunch of joker's.

Believe me, all these Biafra, IPOB and restructuring noise and brouhaha will fade away the moment Buhari and his APC loses power at the centre. Go and write it down. Then Nnamdi Kanu will now become a political big wig in the South East, who will be determining who gets what from the political booties of this present battle; he's only preparing the ground. Watch it.

Nobody is writing anything down and nobody will "watch it". You already sound like a primary school teacher giving out assignments.

It's good to know that you are prepared for the inevitable eventuality of Buhari not remaining in power beyond 2019 after all his devisive gragra thinking he is God. But God has shown him that he is a mere mortal incapable of deciding his own fate much less that of an entire race.

laudate:
Is there a clause on referendum within the Nigerian constitution? If you believe there is, then kindly cite it here, quoting the relevant sections. Prof. Oyebode has just told you guys, the position of the Nigerian law as it is, with respect to the UN clause on self-determination, not the position of the law as it ought to be. And you are still here comparing Scotland, Brexit, Catalonia etc., with the Nigerian situation. Scotland has provisions for referendum in its laws, Nigeria does not! Your focus should be how to get your own international law experts and constitutional lawyers to give you advice on how to insert a clause on referendum into the current constitution!

Unity begging at it's peak.

potent5:
Nobody is writing anything down and nobody will "watch it". You already sound like a primary school teacher giving out assignments.

It's good to know that you are prepared for the inevitable eventuality of Buhari not remaining in power beyond 2019 after all his devisive gragra thinking he is God. But God has shown him that he is a mere mortal incapable of deciding his own fate much less that of an entire race.

Look, take it or leave it, I don't see this strategy taking you guys anywhere. Hate speech and calling people names, seeing anybody that antagonised your opinion as an enemy isn't the way. But unfortunately, it isn't your war, neither do you have access to your warlord. Otherwise, I would have asked you to take the message to him.

You see my friend, Kanu, as far as I'm concerned, and for the umpteenth time, will eventually be the sole beneficiary of this struggle. I ain't gonna elaborate on that anymore since you don't want to hear.

However, Kanu would've had the support of the youths of this country if he hadn't follow this silly strategy and mentality of attacking other tribes in this contrapment called a country. You folks are fighting for Biafra, saying the North are domineering, yet you attack an imaginary "afonja" that catches your fancy.

Well, for all I care, you can go on deceiving yourself.

He deserves all the insults he is receiving.

This Afonja reaps what he sowed.

Dumaknesset:
Professor Akin Oyebode is an interviewer’s delight and much more. A natural teacher who measures his success by the success of his products in the marketplace of life

I get to to know Prof. from an interview he had with NTA back then. I quickly wrote his name down and will never want to miss a program he will be part of. He's one of the best brains Nigeria has produced. The 'I'podians want to have it their own way, so any other view is a challenge to them. Kanu should be ready to face the Nigerian Army or forever stick his Biafra in his nose. Ojukwu knew that's the only way and tried, even though he failed.

PrecisionFx:
Unity begging at it's peak.

Ok, continue.... refuse to listen to the truth. When push comes to shove, una eye go clear!

potent5:
Thank you for calling in aid the provisions of the UN Charter especially article 46. But it would seem that you failed to see the essence of that caveat, as you put it. I don't want to believe that you would want the UN to recognize a right, affirm it and still go around to affirm principles that would defeat the same rights. And you don't expect the charter to be seen to encourage dismemberment of states in a manner that could cause chaos, especially in view of the concept of uti posidetis juris which discourages division of boundaries established after independence of a state from colonial rule.
However, for you to understand why the so called caveat was made you can draw analogy from matrimonial causes:

The matrimonial causes act and rules including the marriage act cannot be said to encourage divorce, can they? But they recognize the rights of a spouse to exit a marriage regardless of the 3 years period or the grounds that marriage has broken down irretrievably.
The charter merely says it does not want to be seen to be encouraging upheavals or acts aimed at dismemberment of states, it does not say it abhors it or does not recognize dismemberment of states as a result of self determination. Recognizing and affirming the right to self determination on the one hand and encouraging on the other hand are entirely different matters. Try and understand the niceties and nuances in interpretation of legal instruments.

Self determination as a right of indigenous people is not litigable as such talking about going to court to enforce rights to it or referendum is missing the point.

I referred you to the Abacha case and Cameroun case for you to understand the place of domestic legislative instruments (the constitution inclusive) and positive international law especially jus cogens. If you read those cases and appreciate arguments put forward by parties, especially by the Nigerian government, and the reasoning of the court, you will better appreciate the point I am making. It's not necessarily about what Gowon did or didn't, colonial maps and all that.

Oga, you are just dribbling and trying to rigmarole your way out of the whole issue. Are you a divorce lawyer that you are now citing the matrimonial causes act, in a situation that has to do with international law? Oga, go and educate yourself on what international law is all about.

You are clutching at straws by citing "the place of domestic legislative instruments (the constitution inclusive) and positive international law especially jus cogens." Did the judges at the ICJ rely on domestic legislative instruments of Nigeria or Cameroun, in order to pass judgement, or did they apply principles of international law?

I had told you what made the ICJ rule in favour of Cameroun in the Nigeria vs Cameroun case, but from your response you certainly did not read the judgement, which is why you are talking about the argument put forward by the Nigerian side. What did the judges rely on, before they granted judgement in favour of Cameroun? Was it Nigeria's argument or the proof and documents placed before them, including old colonial maps and evidence of Bakassi being located within Camerounian territory?

laribari:
bro, before you say i'm yoruba that is why im supportting someone but i am not. However, what caught my eyes is the below........

One thing i can bet Nigeria is, if the igbos are provoked to a war, Nigeria will not have its way like before and Nigeria will not survive it.

So you think NIgeria is selling groundnut in the UN abi? These days, allies fight war and not just the countries involve. In both, both parties suffer loss but i still see Nigeria having an edge. Britain will forever fight alongside Nigeria. Usa and Britain are brothers and Isreal can't even involve despite biafrans claiming to be jews because Israel and the USA are like brothers. China has very good relatiosnhip and bi-lateral trade with Nigeria and i doubt they will fight against her. Nigeria have very good relationship with most European nations. That leaves us with Russia among the world power. In the African union, Nigeria is like their father and west Africans will fight with her. This is not 1967 o! Today world na padi, padi. what you said is just based on asumption but me don give you fact and majority of this allies will either fight, supply weapon and military intelligence. There is even no way igbos can out number the entire Nigeria. they can't out number hausas alone sef. Majority of the soldiers today are hausa and are trained. How many soldiers can igbo produce? This is not village wrestling o! In the NIgerian Army, hausa, yoruba, edo, calabar, benue etc indigenes are there and they will fight together. How can Igbo now out number Nigeria? you sabi exagerate.

The disapora you claim are under U.S and British government aren't they? bro look, lets not wish for war because the out come is something nobody can tell.

cheers.

By the way i'm from Delta (Anioma) and i believe in a unity Nigeria even though every tribe have their issue. our leaders are the problem we have. look at kanu today, he is a leader but his approach is beating the drum of war. no wisdom.

I av a lot to say to u but lemme just say one. Ur last sentence. Av u heard kanu talk before? He said he wants to go with no single gunshot fired and that promise has been kept. So where is d drum of War coming from? And am from ND I will rather go with biqfra than stay with Nigeria. Nigeria has not offered me anything. My village has abundance of oil. But the place doesn't look like it has such resources.

Pavarottii:
I av a lot to say to u but lemme just say one. Ur last sentence. Av u heard kanu talk before? He said he wants to go with no single gunshot fired and that promise has been kept. So where is d drum of War coming from? And am from ND I will rather go with biqfra than stay with Nigeria. Nigeria has not offered me anything. My village has abundance of oil. But the place doesn't look like it has such resources.

I see your point but the problem is with your people and our delta state as a whole. Do you know that government pay millions to the state to compensate indigenes? Do you know how much went for amnesty to empower the youths there? Do you know village heads get money from government? These people are responsible for the development and Wat have have done? See asari's house, living like a king. Delta has governor who is from my place but what has been done?

Look at lagos, the state government decided to work. Fashola worked and ambode is working. The issue is with the people as well.

Yes kanu constantly talks about death, war etc. Once said even if he dies (in fighting) biafra must come. Did you hear the reply to obasanjo? The man speaks violently.

Above all, when you agitate but in hate towards others and want to divide the country by force, isn't that beating drum of war?

You say no election and so on. Isn't that capable of leading to violence?

laudate:
Oga, you are just dribbling and trying to rigmarole your way out of the whole issue. Are you a divorce lawyer that you are now citing the matrimonial causes act, in a situation that has to do with international law? Oga, go and educate yourself on what international law is all about.

You are clutching at straws by citing "the place of domestic legislative instruments (the constitution inclusive) and positive international law especially jus cogens." Did the judges at the ICJ rely on domestic legislative instruments of Nigeria or Cameroun, in order to pass judgement, or did they apply principles of international law?

I had told you what made the ICJ rule in favour of Cameroun in the Nigeria vs Cameroun case, but from your response you certainly did not read the judgement, which is why you are talking about the argument put forward by the Nigerian side. What did the judges rely on, before they granted judgement in favour of Cameroun? Was it Nigeria's argument or the proof and documents placed before them, including old colonial maps and evidence of Bakassi being located within Camerounian territory?

My friend, what's with you and evasiveness? You just keep yapping about maps and Bakassi location in Cameroun. If you've read that judgment you would know that so many issues came up before the court for determination beside this your maps and Bakassi location. One of such issues was the argument by Nigeria using Nigerian domestic arrangement as a basis to escape its international obligations....

Abacha's case is another case where attempt to use the absence of an item in the Nigerian constitution as a basis to deny the inalienable rights of every human being. Go and read it and be better informed.

Forget about what you heard or read in the papers and stop being clever by half. It won't do you any good. It only magnifies your ignorance the more, in spite of your attempts to appear learned or smart.

laudate:
Is there a clause on referendum within the Nigerian constitution? If you believe there is, then kindly cite it here, quoting the relevant sections. Prof. Oyebode has just told you guys, the position of the Nigerian law as it is, with respect to the UN clause on self-determination, not the position of the law as it ought to be. And you are still here comparing Scotland, Brexit, Catalonia etc., with the Nigerian situation. Scotland has provisions for referendum in its laws, Nigeria does not! Your focus should be how to get your own international law experts and constitutional lawyers to give you advice on how to insert a clause on referendum into the current constitution!

The Nigerian constitution has clauses on referendum,but only as concern state (Section and local government creation, for now.Do try and get a copy.
Also, get The Creation of States And Boundary Adjustment (Procedure) Act,made pursuant to Section 8.All speak to referendum as a tool to settle issues.
Tis only a matter of constitutional amendment,to include regional and independence referendum,if we all agree.
Btw, before their agitation,the Scots had no special laws for referendum in their books.Britain was being ruled from Westminster,before power was devolved to the various constituent units

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laribari:
I see your point but the problem is with your people and our delta state as a whole. Do you know that government pay millions to the state to compensate indigenes? Do you know how much went for amnesty to empower the youths there? Do you know village heads get money from government? These people are responsible for the development and Wat have have done? See asari's house, living like a king. Delta has governor who is from my place but what has been done?

Look at lagos, the state government decided to work. Fashola worked and ambode is working. The issue is with the people as well.

Yes kanu constantly talks about death, war etc. Once said even if he dies (in fighting) biafra must come. Did you hear the reply to obasanjo? The man speaks violently.

Above all, when you agitate but in hate towards others and want to divide the country by force, isn't that beating drum of war?

You say no election and so on. Isn't that capable of leading to violence?

My brother open Ur eyes and think of Ur future and Ur children unborn. Why should they be the one to compensate dem. Why don't we be d one to compensate dem. Who has d oil. It's seems u r one of d weak ones.

Av a nice day.

potent5:
My friend, what's with you and evasiveness? You just keep yapping about maps and Bakassi location in Cameroun. If you've read that judgment you would know that so many issues came up before the court for determination beside this your maps and Bakassi location. One of such issues was the argument by Nigeria using Nigerian domestic arrangement as a basis to escape its international obligations....

Abacha's case is another case where attempt to use the absence of an item in the Nigerian constitution as a basis to deny the inalienable rights of every human being. Go and read it and be better informed.

Forget about what you heard or read in the papers and stop being clever by half. It won't do you any good. It only magnifies your ignorance the more, in spite of your attempts to appear learned or smart.

Oga, it is you who has adopted 'evasiveness' as your middle name. And it is your own ignorance that is so appalling, o! I have made it clear to you, the various facts that the ICJ relied upon, in order to arrive at their judgement. They include (but are not limited to) pre-colonial maps, the fact that Bakassi fell within Cameroun's territory etc. The Anglo-German agreements concerning Bakassi, the historical antecedents to the dispute, international border demarcations, The Lagos Declaration of June 21, 1971 and The Kano Declaration of September 1, 1974 etc., were also some of the key issues considered by the ICJ in reaching a decision.

Instead of looking at those facts, you keep pointing to Nigeria's argument in the Nigeria vs. Cameroun case, as if Nigeria's argument survived the scrutiny of the ICJ, or as if it won them victory in that case. You are waving the argument made by Nigeria, (or to use your own words - 'using Nigerian domestic arrangement as a basis to escape its international obligations')- in the air, as if it is foolproof. Ok, state the part of Nigeria's argument that grabbed your attention, which you feel should have won the case for them. The fact that such an argument did not win the case, shows that it was defective from day one. So why are you still making noise about it?

Now, you need to take your own advice and stop being clever by half and ask your people to get expert international lawyers to offer them sound advice on the next steps to take!

| Nigeria, Cameroon and the Bakassi Territorial Dispute Settlement:The Triumph of Bilateralism |International Affairs and Global Strategy www.iiste.org. ISSN 2224-574X (Paper) ISSN 2224-8951 (Online) Vol.38, 2015

After a little over eight years of examining the matter, the ICJ delivered judgment on October 10, 2002, deciding that the very important issue of sovereignty over the Bakassi Peninsula rested with Cameroon, and not Nigeria. The Court hinged her decision on the same old colonial agreements and settlements between Britain and Germany (Lacey and Banerjee 2002). Consequently, the Court directed Nigeria to withdraw all administrative, police and military personnel unconditionally from Cameroonian territory including the Bakassi Peninsula. It equally requested Cameroon to do likewise along the land boundary from Lake Chad to the Bakassi Peninsula on areas which pursuant to the judgment were under the sovereignty of Nigeria (Baye 2010). Furthermore, the Court settled the land boundaries between the two countries from Lake Chad in the North to Bakassi in the South. file:///C:/Users/Mama/Downloads/26967-29654-1-PB.pdf

Dhugal:
The Nigerian constitution has clauses on referendum,but only as concern state (Section and local government creation, for now.Do try and get a copy.
Also, get The Creation of States And Boundary Adjustment (Procedure) Act,made pursuant to Section 8.All speak to referendum as a tool to settle issues.
Tis only a matter of constitutional amendment,to include regional and independence referendum,if we all agree.
Btw, before their agitation,the Scots had no special laws for referendum in their books.Britain was being ruled from Westminster,before power was devolved to the various constituent units

Noted. So what are the IPOB crew doing to get referendum inserted in the constitution, or to get the constitution ammended? Or do they think protest marches and sit-at-home orders will automatically insert the relevant clauses into the constitution for them?

laudate:
Oga, it is you who has adopted 'evasiveness' as your middle name. And it is your own ignorance that is so appalling, o! I have made it clear to you, the various facts that the ICJ relied upon, in order to arrive at their judgement. They include (but are not limited to) pre-colonial maps, the fact that Bakassi fell within Cameroun's territory etc. The Anglo-German agreements concerning Bakassi, the historical antecedents to the dispute, international border demarcations, The Lagos Declaration of June 21, 1971 and The Kano Declaration of September 1, 1974 etc., were also some of the key issues considered by the ICJ in reaching a decision.

Instead of looking at those facts, you keep pointing to Nigeria's argument in the Nigeria vs. Cameroun case, as if Nigeria's argument survived the scrutiny of the ICJ, or as if it won them victory in that case. You are waving the argument made by Nigeria, (or to use your own words - 'using Nigerian domestic arrangement as a basis to escape its international obligations')- in the air, as if it is foolproof. Ok, state the part of Nigeria's argument that grabbed your attention, which you feel should have won the case for them. The fact that such an argument did not win the case, shows that it was defective from day one. So why are you still making noise about it?

Now, you need to take your own advice and stop being clever by half and ask your people to get expert international lawyers to offer them sound advice on the next steps to take!

My friend, that you quoted some report of what the ICJ said to the two parties in paraphrase has actually lent credence to what I've been saying. The judgement of the court in that case has several issues which came up and it's one of those that I've been drawing your attention to but your parochial stubbornness won't allow you to understand basic principles of advocacy. I am beginning to think that I have been wasting my time and I doubt if you are even a lawyer. Otherwise, how on earth can you not understand rudimentary aspects of analysis of judgment.

Well, you ask: "So why are you still making noise about it?" It's simply because your so called Russia trained prof is putting up similar feeble arguments in his interview as was done by Bola Ajibola (and Co) who was a judge advocate in the case.

All your submissions are are akin to what a historian will do: just give us a narrative of what took place without more. This is not an issue for historians, okay? Thank you.

I have come to realize that the point I am making is beyond your understanding and apparently there is nothing I can do to change you except you take your time to undergo proper training in international law, case analysis and advocacy in a proper university, not all these Nigerian private universities you people run to for quick action

potent5:
My friend, that you quoted some report of what the ICJ said to the two parties in paraphrase has actually lent credence to what I've been saying. The judgement of the court in that case has several issues which came up and it's one of those that I've been drawing your attention to but your parochial stubbornness won't allow you to understand basic principles of advocacy. I am beginning to think that I have been wasting my time and I doubt if you are even a lawyer. Otherwise, how on earth can you not understand rudimentary aspects of analysis of judgment.

Well, you ask: "So why are you still making noise about it?" It's simply because your so called Russia trained prof is putting up similar feeble arguments in his interview as was done by Bola Ajibola (and Co) who was a judge advocate in the case.

All your submissions are are akin to what a historian will do: just give us a narrative of what took place without more. This is not an issue for historians, okay? Thank you.

I have come to realize that the point I am making is beyond your understanding and apparently there is nothing I can do to change you except you take your time to undergo proper training in international law, case analysis and advocacy in a proper university, not all these Nigerian private universities you people run to for quick action

You see, until you can free your mind to think logically, I can't help you. You keep running from pillar to post clutching at straws, in a bid to sound important. Unfortunately, your ignorance becomes more apparent with every effort you make.

You started by trying to use the matrimonial causes act, to draw parallels with principles of international law. Next, you laid emphasis on Nigeria's argument at the Nigeria vs Cameroun case at the ICJ, where you stated that 'Nigerian domestic arrangement was used as a basis to escape its international obligations,' as if that argument was a superior one. Now, you have started rambling about how 'the judgement of the court in that case has several issues which came up.' Your statements are full of form without substance. Can you see all the empty shadows you have been chasing?

Ok, outline those several issues contained in the judgement of the court, so that everyone can see what you are trying to say. List them out one by one. Just ensure you do not end up confusing yourself as usual, in your parochial stubbornness.

laudate:
You see, until you can free your mind to think logically, I can't help you. You keep running from pillar to post clutching at straws, in a bid to sound important. Unfortunately, your ignorance becomes more apparent with every effort you make.

You started by trying to use the matrimonial causes act, to draw parallels with principles of international law. Next, you laid emphasis on Nigeria's argument at the Nigeria vs Cameroun case at the ICJ, where you stated that 'Nigerian domestic arrangement was used as a basis to escape its international obligations,' as if that argument was a superior one. Now, you have started rambling about how 'the judgement of the court in that case has several issues which came up.' Your statements are full of form without substance. Can you see all the empty shadows you have been chasing?

Ok, outline those several issues contained in the judgement of the court, so that everyone can see what you are trying to say. List them out one by one. Just ensure you do not end up confusing yourself as usual, in your parochial stubbornness.

My friend, I am not a historian like you. And if you expect me to embark on a narrative of the issues addressed by the court in Cameroun case when I don't need to for obvious reasons (which cannot be obvious to a historian like you), you are wasting your time. I have already drawn your attention to the issue relevant to the matter in hand but you keep on carrying on like the historian you are. It's not my fault that you don't know case analysis which belongs in the realm of advocacy; I won't turn a lecturer here on case analysis just to pull you out of legal oblivion.

This your enumerate this and that can't portray you as knowing what you are saying, when you can't even make a head or tail of what I am talking about.

If someone is ignorant of a rocket science it is a waste of time trying to remedy his plight on Nairaland forum, especially where the ignoramus has no potential whatsoever for a good student on the subject.

International law was one my favorite areas as a student and I have some of the best authoritative texts in it my library. Just so you know. If you want to know case analysis, go and study law and stop exposing your ignorance here.

potent5:
My friend, I am not a historian like you. And if you expect me to embark on a narrative of the issues addressed by the court in Cameroun case when I don't need to for obvious reasons (which cannot be obvious to a historian like you), you are wasting your time. I have already drawn your attention to the issue relevant to the matter in hand but you keep on carrying on like the historian you are. It's not my fault that you don't know case analysis which belongs in the realm of advocacy; I won't turn a lecturer here on case analysis just to pull you out of legal oblivion.

This your enumerate this and that can't portray you as knowing what you are saying, when you can't even make a head or tail of what I am talking about.

If someone is ignorant of a rocket science it is a waste of time trying to remedy his plight on Nairaland forum, especially where the ignoramus has no potential whatsoever for a good student on the subject.

International law was one my favorite areas as a student and I have some of the best authoritative texts in it my library. Just so you know. If you want to know case analysis, go and study law and stop exposing your ignorance here.

You know what? The more you talk, the more you expose your unmitigated ignorance and delusion. You have NOT been able to answer any of the questions posed to you so far, instead you take refuge in sly derision, contemptuous comments and insulting innuendoes. Your plight is really beyond redemption. I cannot help you if you refuse to learn, or to free your mind. The day you decide to list all the substantive issues addressed by the ICJ in the Nigeria vs. Cameroun case concerning Bakassi peninsula, in accordance with international law principles, then you would be taken seriously. Now, please kindly get off my mentions.

MalcoImX:
I get to to know Prof. from an interview he had with NTA back then. I quickly wrote his name down and will never want to miss a program he will be part of. He's one of the best brains Nigeria has produced. The 'I'podians want to have it their own way, so any other view is a challenge to them. Kanu should be ready to face the Nigerian Army or forever stick his Biafra in his nose. Ojukwu knew that's the only way and tried, even though he failed.

I also watched an interview a year or 2 years ago and thought I was watching a slave from 17th century America talking.

Essentially, what Professor Oyebode wants everyone to accept is that on the 1st of October 1960, all the ethnic nationalities in Nigeria such as Igbo, Ijaw, Ibibio, Ogoni etc that were under the colonial arrangement of the British called Nigeria, now officially lost their right of self determination and their sovereignty. So in essence, we actually fell deeper into bondage on October 1st 1960 than becoming free. To the professor, achieving self rule in 1960 was the same as surrendering our sovereingty to a super state called Nigeria and anyone who wants to leave can only do so by war. This is the thinking of a man who lives inside a box. The inability to reason beyond his nose.

laudate:
You know what? The more you talk, the more you expose your unmitigated ignorance and delusion. You have NOT been able to answer any of the questions posed to you so far, instead you take refuge in sly derision, contemptuous comments and insulting innuendoes. Your plight is really beyond redemption. I cannot help you if you refuse to learn, or to free your mind. The day you decide to list all the substantive issues addressed by the ICJ in the Nigeria vs. Cameroun case concerning Bakassi peninsula, in accordance with international law principles, then you would be taken seriously. Now, please kindly get off my mentions.

You are an archetype of Nigeria and a true example of the problem with Nigeria, always waiting to be spoon fed with everything, always seeking the next shortcut to solution.

I won't indulge you pathological shortcut mentality here; it's not my making that you are not grounded in the subject under discussion. Take the advice I proffered and get schooled in a proper academic environment.

All your driveling and antics for me to chronicle ALL issues in the Cameroun case are just consistent with your nature but I won't be moved by it. I referred you to the case ab initio and if it's in your nature to refer people to a subject you know nothing about, well I am different.

Go and read the case as advised or, better still, go and study international law. By so doing you would have solved one of Nigeria's problems of shortcut and hard work in your own life.

potent5:
You are an archetype of Nigeria and a true example of the problem with Nigeria, always waiting to be spoon fed with everything, always seeking the next shortcut to solution.

I won't indulge you pathological shortcut mentality here; it's not my making that you are not grounded in the subject under discussion. Take the advice I proffered and get schooled in a proper academic environment.

All your driveling and antics for me to chronicle ALL issues in the Cameroun case are just consistent with your nature but I won't be moved by it. I referred you to the case ab initio and if it's in your nature to refer people to a subject you know nothing about, well I am different.

Go and read the case as advised or, better still, go and study international law. By so doing you would have solved one of Nigeria's problems of shortcut and hard work in your own life.

You do not even know the kind of qualifications I hold in international law, yet you are here making unfounded noise. I told you before : "The more you talk, the more you expose your unmitigated ignorance and delusion. You have NOT been able to answer any of the questions posed to you so far, instead you take refuge in sly derision, contemptuous comments and insulting innuendoes." And you just proved it again with your lengthy needless epistle, full of sound and fury signifying nothing! Now, have the floor and continue to spew more garbage, so that everyone can actually see that you have nothing upstairs.