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DrayZee:
Ice melting yet sea level would be lower. Right. You joined two different conclusions together.
I referred to two different scenarios.
Melting can cause ice to break off. In that case there will be no increase in water level. It's just broken ice.
Melting can also cause ice to turn liquid. That is where water level increases. That's all I said.

Explo.rers made a comment about a bucket full of water, that if you drop ice in it, the water will spill out. He related it to the effects of global warming, implying that the broken ice would increase sea level. And that's where my problem with him was. He created this thread and rectified everything wrong with the previous one. He saw his mistake.
You, came out of nowhere to start insulting me. Pls, if you don't know the origin of a case, just ignore.

*sighs*
Its like this explorer guy took ur gf with the way u kept harping about his mistakes upandan.....
Now...to U.....if melting(imagine d kind of heat involved) can cause ice 4 times d size of London to break up from d Antarctica ice shelf....u think some of the ice floes(underneath) won't melt too For me that's a strong possibility..... N who are we to know if there is no increase in sea level yet....the ice won't just break off one day...its a long,slow process involving melting on d nanoscale....before u see d visible effects(actual ice breakaway)......Now while the increase in sea level from this process(ice melting) might be small....it is still a possibility one cannot ignore.....
But the massive ice separated from d shelf is going to melt further so FURTHER increases in sea level is expected!!!!

* I am glad u realised ur mistake n corrected ursef...don't bother thanking Me..its all good*

I didn't correct anything. You didn't understand the post.

luminouz:
*sighs*
Its like this explorer guy took it gf with the way u kept harping about his mistakes upandan.....
Now...to U.....if melting(imagine d kind of heat involved) can cause ice 4 times d size of London to break up from d Antarctica ice shelf....u think some of the ice floes(underneath) won't melt too For me that's a strong possibility..... N who are we to know if there is no increase in sea level yet....the ice won't just break off one day...its a long,slow process involving melting on d nanoscale....before u see d visible effects(actual ice breakaway)......Now while the increase in sea level from this process(ice melting) might be small....it is still a possibility one cannot ignore.....
But the massive ice separated from d shelf is going to melt further so FURTHER increases in sea level is expected!!!!

* I am glad u realised ur mistake n corrected ursef...don't bother thanking Me..its all good*

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DrayZee:
He created this thread and rectified everything wrong with the previous one. He saw his mistake.

If am making a mistake, then this thread is not necessary, it's useless.


I would have modified my post on the previous thread instead of creating this.



Someone asked a question like melting of the ice in Antarctica, will it increase the water level creating flood in the coastal cities/countries? something like that.


So i replied that even scientists around the world have been arguing about that too, some are with the fact and some are against it.



So i said personally, i believe the water level will increase.



Then i came up with dropping an ice weighing 5kg into a filled up bucket, is going to spill.


I never said is like removing an ice weighing 5kg from a bucket of water then dropping it back.


The bucket am talking about is the ocean and 5kg of ice is the billions or trillions of tons of glacier that will flow into the ocean when the ice start melting from the land.

That's why i have to come up with this thread that is only about 44% of ice in Antarctica that's floating, the rest lies on the ground and on mountains in the continent.


The picture of iceberg i added, i was only trying to let the person i was quoting know how big or massive they can be.



No one knows it all bro, we are learning everyday.

If we're making a mistake and we're being correct, i will take it and modify my mistake.

Not to create a thread to cover it up.



The thread is to make my point clear sir.

Explorers:
If am making a mistake, then this thread is not necessary, it's useless.


I would have modified my post on the previous thread instead of creating this.



Someone asked a question like melting of the ice in Antarctica, will it increase the water level creating flood in the coastal cities/countries? something like that.


So i replied that even scientists around the world have been arguing about that too, some are with the fact and some are against it.



So i said personally, i believe the water level will increase.



Then i came up with dropping an ice weighing 5kg into a filled up bucket, is going to spill.


I never said is like removing an ice weighing 5kg from a bucket of water then dropping it back.


The bucket am talking about is the ocean and 5kg of ice is the billions or trillions of tons of glacier that will flow into the ocean when the ice start melting from the land.

That's why i have to come up with this thread that is only about 44% of ice in Antarctica that's floating, the rest lies on the ground and on mountains in the continent.


The picture of iceberg i added, i was only trying to let the person i was quoting know how big or massive they can be.



No one knows it all bro, we are learning everyday.

If we're making a mistake and we're being correct, i will take it and modify my mistake.

Not to create a thread to cover it up.



The thread is to make my point clear sir.

Calm down. I know this thread was to make your point to clear. I've said it repeatedly. There was no need for this epistle.
And Btw, I have nothing to do with everything emboldened.
My only problem was with your initial bucket example. It was supposed to be a simple correction, but your hard core followers decided to insult me because of it and that's what led to all this. It seems they believe you know everything.

I love your work and the efforts you have been making. Don't let this issue ruin any of it. Good luck.

DrayZee:
Good luck.

Tnx sir.

DrayZee:
I didn't correct anything. You didn't understand the post.

Whatever makes u feel good....

[quote author=DrayZee post=58513515]Calm down. i know this thread was to make your point to clear. I've said it repeatedly. There was no need for this epistle

Lmaoooo!!!

Explorers:
If am making a mistake, then this thread is not necessary, it's useless.


I would have modified my post on the previous thread instead of creating this.



Someone asked a question like melting of the ice in Antarctica, will it increase the water level creating flood in the coastal cities/countries? something like that.


So i replied that even scientists around the world have been arguing about that too, some are with the fact and some are against it.



So i said personally, i believe the water level will increase.



Then i came up with dropping an ice weighing 5kg into a filled up bucket, is going to spill.


I never said is like removing an ice weighing 5kg from a bucket of water then dropping it back.


The bucket am talking about is the ocean and 5kg of ice is the billions or trillions of tons of glacier that will flow into the ocean when the ice start melting from the land.

That's why i have to come up with this thread that is only about 44% of ice in Antarctica that's floating, the rest lies on the ground and on mountains in the continent.


The picture of iceberg i added, i was only trying to let the person i was quoting know how big or massive they can be.



No one knows it all bro, we are learning everyday.

If we're making a mistake and we're being correct, i will take it and modify my mistake.

Not to create a thread to cover it up.



The thread is to make my point clear sir.

Bros you get time o.

DrayZee:
Wrong on what aspect?
If it's the volume of ice and water thing, you can check that out yourself. I'm absolutely sure about that one.

But for sea level to rise, the level of melting required will need to be much more than just a single minute breakage from Antarctica. You can check the comments on Ex.plorers previous thread to understand what I'm saying.

Dude you're wrong, but then you're entitled to your opinion. (btw its SS1 physics work sef )

2ndly the ice you refer to as 'single minute breakage from Antarctica' is actually about 4 times the size of London, not just the visible top but also the large mass of ice underneath it. It will eventually melt completely and you need to put the volume of water gotten from that in perspective.

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Explorers:
North America.



The U.S would vanish, wiping out Florida and the Gulf Coast.

While the hills in San Francisco would become islands and San Diego would be lost forever.




http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2013/09/rising-seas-ice-melt-new-shoreline-maps/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2488452/Map-reveals-devastation-worlds-ice-melted.html

The beginning of the end...

stormfather:
Global warming is one of the biggest scams in history, along with the war against terrorism.
I pity those falling for it

Are you for real?the truth must be told;global warming is real and the effects will be disastrous...


There is a big difference between global warming and the war against terrorism.

Explorer can you factor in specific gravity inside the entire equation? SG if ice is higher than that of water because water expands on cooling. So if a cup full of ice melts, the water it produces will be seen to be less than the volume of the cup because it will contract and occupy less volume. I am not trying to negate your theory but mother nature has factored in a lot of these things.

Daeylar:
Here for the ride, let me hold this space, will be back soon

modified
all right,
so will Nigeria survive?

Nigeria don already dey struggle, so if e no survive, no be bad thing

julioralph:
Dude you're wrong, but then you're entitled to your opinion. (btw its SS1 physics work sef )

2ndly the ice you refer to as 'single minute breakage from Antarctica' is actually about 4 times the size of London, not just the visible top but also the large mass of ice underneath it. It will eventually melt completely and you need to put the volume of water gotten from that in perspective.

When you tell me I'm wrong, why not at least show the part that proves me wrong.

And yes, the breakage is minute relative to the rest of Antarctica.
And you talking about SS1 Physics work, didn't they teach you that water expands when frozen? In liquid form, it's volume will actually be less than it was when iced.
Perform the experiment I spoke of and if you get a different result, tell me. Don't walk about making unnecessary noise. A properly trained WAEC candidate won't make this mistake you're making. You even referred me to wiki. Chai

julioralph:
don't misquote me pls.

the change of state from ice to water will cause an increase in the overall volume of water in the oceans. thats my take.

well, unlike other compounds, when water freezes, it's expands, it is called "anomalous expansion of water".

the op has raised a sailient point by saying a greater percentage of the ice is on land, that is the good point.

DrayZee:
When you tell me I'm wrong, why not at least show the part that proves me wrong.

And yes, the breakage is minute relative to the rest of Antarctica.
And you talking about SS1 Physics work, didn't they teach you that water expands when frozen? In liquid form, it's volume will actually be less than it was when iced.
Perform the experiment I spoke of and if you get a different result, tell me. Don't walk about making unnecessary noise. A properly trained WAEC candidate won't make this mistake you're making. You even referred me to wiki. Chai

Refer to my very 1st post on this thread pls. 2ndly you, and some others should remember that the subject matter here is about the impact of melting ice, (and the attendant effect caused by the excess liquid on the environment) a significant one for that matter.

I do hope you see where I'm coming from.

Seems you love to argue blindly. The world wide web is always there for those who seek knowledge. Goodluck I'm done with you on this thread

julioralph:
Refer to my very 1st post on this thread pls. 2ndly you, and some others should remember that the subject matter here is about the impact of melting ice, (and the attendant effect caused by the excess liquid on the environment) a significant one for that matter.

I do hope you see where I'm coming from.

Seems you love to argue blindly. The world wide web is always there for those who seek knowledge. Goodluck I'm done with you on this thread

Yes better. I'm tired of talking to people whose arguments have no bearing. Now you're telling me about excess liquid in the environment. Ohh

julioralph:
Refer to my very 1st post on this thread pls. 2ndly you, and some others should remember that the subject matter here is about the impact of melting ice, (and the attendant effect caused by the excess liquid on the environment) a significant one for that matter.

I do hope you see where I'm coming from.

Seems you love to argue blindly. The world wide web is always there for those who seek knowledge. Goodluck I'm done with you on this thread

If you have seen your mistake just say it at once instead of telling me about the essence of this thread.
I initially told you to check something out yourself. Instead of doing that, you came back here to tell me I'm wrong.

You only came here to argue. You didn't even know what the subject was about.
I'm saying volume of ice will reduce when it melts, you're talking about how the increase in water level affects the environment. How are they the same thing?

julioralph:
@Bolded, No mind that fellow. So many kids running their mouth anyhow.

The Ice will undergo a change of state (from ice to water) and thereby cause an increase in the volume of water we have in the ocean.

You're right boss, global warming must be tackled.

Lol. You referred me here. The fact that you think what he said in the emboldened was correct already shows how wrong you are. Even he now knows he was wrong.
Lemme clarify issues here, I only said increase in volume of water doesn't necessarily mean increase in sea level. That's the essence of all I've been saying. I never said the volume wouldn't increase when ice melts.

Old news. Melting of the iceberg caps is as a result of Global warming, hence the bed for us to change our lifestyle and start using renewable energy. Start using bycicle

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Meanwhile those of us in Lagos had better sleep with our eyes open we seem to be the major victim. Lagos should also consider buying land from Ogun State