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hary158:
they all had blood stains

20 in one dat is an epidemic, get floxinor or coliston terra to treat. .. What type of pond do u use..

please house I'm a jjc in this fish business just getting my earthen pond,please someone said I don't need to change the water until 3 months please how true is this because from what I have read it have to change the water 3 days.please don't jump am pass.

winningbt:
please house I'm a jjc in this fish business just getting my earthen pond,please someone said I don't need to change the water until 3 months please how true is this because from what I have read it have to change the water 3 days.please don't jump am pass.

You don't have to change water in earthen pond unless you see the need to do so. However your earthen pond should be design in a way that there's constant inflow of fresh water and outflow of used water in order to always rejuvenate your pond

Ttalk:
You don't have to change water in earthen pond unless you see the need to do so. However your earthen pond should be design in a way that there's constant inflow of fresh water and outflow of used water in order to always rejuvenate your pond

Good day. Please i'll like to know how does one design an earthen pond to ease out flow of used water?

Ttalk:
You don't have to change water in earthen pond unless you see the need to do so. However your earthen pond should be design in a way that there's constant inflow of fresh water and outflow of used water in order to always rejuvenate your pond

thanks so much

robonski15:
20 in one dat is an epidemic, get floxinor or coliston terra to treat. .. What type of pond do u use..

tarpaulin pond.

winningbt:
please house I'm a jjc in this fish business just getting my earthen pond,please someone said I don't need to change the water until 3 months please how true is this because from what I have read it have to change the water 3 days.please don't jump am pass.

we have three types of earthen pond.
1. one with river or spring water flowing in. this one you do not need to change water always except there is an epidemic, it is smelling/ contaminated or during harvest.
2. one without flowing water but having high water level like stagnant water. you need water change at least monthly then weekly when the fish is around four months from fingerlings to harvest in other to maintain good water quality. also when you can perceive odour in the water as a result of over crowding. in this one the water will refresh itself within two days.
3. one without water or needing additional water through pumps. you need to change this constantly cos of dryness as it works like concrete. in this one the water will not refresh itself after pumping out.
therefore choose your category and do the needful.

if anyone have any question at all on earthen pond / catfish, kindly whatsapp or call 08183549869. its free of charge.

Hello everybody
please what causes fishes to stand upright in water? They don't look active too. Always idle on water. Not responding well to feeding also.
When this first started, i treated with salt. Also used antibiotics (tetracycline, chloraphenicol, vit c, proclein powder etc)
Its an earthen pond.
The fishes have given me too much wahala already

Good Morning to the big Men & Women in the house. And thanks to all the gurus for all the vital infos you've all shared here on catfish farming, May God continue to richly bless & reward you all. The thread has really enriched us with enough guides & personal experiences to spur even those of in unrelated field to want to take a plunge

Meanwhile, I'm kind of curious that all Infos about fish farming is freely being shared minus the most important part viz. after raising the catfish, how much do you price them & how to get value for your efforts. I wonder if you all know that withholding infos in this aspect won't serve you all well. Some may actually be selling short to the advantage of your buyers & detriments of the producers.

You guys need to give a thought to the issue ASAP. I belief appropriate pricing of products is important enough to be a major part of this thread. This thread can be made more lively & a reference to all in the business by having @least a weekly price guide incorporated into it. God bless you all.

Emmafly:
we have three types of earthen pond.
1. one with river or spring water flowing in. this one you do not need to change water always except there is an epidemic, it is smelling/ contaminated or during harvest.
2. one without flowing water but having high water level like stagnant water. you need water change at least monthly then weekly when the fish is around four months from fingerlings to harvest in other to maintain good water quality. also when you can perceive odour in the water as a result of over crowding. in this one the water will refresh itself within two days.
3. one without water or needing additional water through pumps. you need to change this constantly cos of dryness as it works like concrete. in this one the water will not refresh itself after pumping out.
therefore choose your category and do the needful.

if anyone have any question at all on earthen pond / catfish, kindly whatsapp or call 08183549869. its free of charge.

thanks so much God bless you

bixton:
. What sizes are on the pix you posted and what number of post fingerlings can it hold to melange stage?

Stock density depends on individual water mgt, but we recommend
24ft by 10ft by 4ft - for 1500 capacity to table size
20ft by 10ft by 4ft - for 1000 capacity to table size
22ft by 7ft by 4ft -

saheed3:
Stock density depends on individual water mgt, but we recommend
24ft by 10ft by 4ft - for 1500 capacity to table size
20ft by 10ft by 4ft - for 1000 capacity to table size
22ft by 7ft by 4ft -

. So what are the prices of the respective sizes you high lighted?

Saintee2009:
Hello everybody
please what causes fishes to stand upright in water? They don't look active too. Always idle on water. Not responding well to feeding also.
When this first started, i treated with salt. Also used antibiotics (tetracycline, chloraphenicol, vit c, proclein powder etc)
Its an earthen pond.
The fishes have given me too much wahala already

hi sainte,
what is the size of your fish. how long have they been in the pond. what's your water source is it flowing stream or stagnant. when last did you pump out the water. did flood affect your pond.
first of all don't feed and get back asap.

Abuzay2r:
Good Morning to the big Men & Women in the house. And thanks to all the gurus for all the vital infos you've all shared here on catfish farming, May God continue to richly bless & reward you all. The thread has really enriched us with enough guides & personal experiences to spur even those of in unrelated field to want to take a plunge

Meanwhile, I'm kind of curious that all Infos about fish farming is freely being shared minus the most important part viz. after raising the catfish, how much do you price them & how to get value for your efforts. I wonder if you all know that withholding infos in this aspect won't serve you all well. Some may actually be selling short to the advantage of your buyers & detriments of the producers.

You guys need to give a thought to the issue ASAP. I belief appropriate pricing of products is important enough to be a major part of this thread. This thread can be made more lively & a reference to all in the business by having @least a weekly price guide incorporated into it. God bless you all.

the issue of price is based on the law of demand and supply in different value chain.
price is also determined by area too. you do not expect someone in ikorodu to patronise someone in badagry unless price is considered to cover primary costs when compared with the one in the immediate locality.
therefore we have to work on our value chain.
but we farmers are too lazy to climb the value chain and expect others to climb on our behalf. that's where the middle men come in. we prefer to sell our products to the bath women and the aboki melange buyers than going out to hustle for our own customers.
who are their customers. the pepper soup people, hotel and dried fish users. therefore the higher you go the better your price but it's not easy at first.

so do not expect any price update. it is you that should determine price based on your cost and source of capital.
so try this. locate the beer palours and hotels around you and offer them your price. no way it is better than the bath women cos you are the farmer and promise them on time delivery with little price for logistics.
also construct an oven and dry your fish. buy nylon and stapler package it and take it out to supermart and shops,companies and schools, parastatals and barracks and you will be surprised.
don't wait till harvest. start harvesting little by little.
I do not patronize melange buyers cos I say to myself where will aboki enter that I can't. package yourself and don't look like an hungry farmer and you will be surprised where you will enter. just look smart.
I can teach any one how to construct an oven free of charge. but its a brick oven which is the best not those glorified iron oven that will still not last. its affordable and the output can be exported cos there will be zero PAH.
though most farmers are very secretive with their customers but I tell you customers are everywhere even your neighbour.
if farmers determine price its okay but not these aboki melange and bath women. I determine my price 730 and you too can. feed price did not come down. did you determine it.
so take note. thanks

Emmafly:
the issue of price is based on the law of demand and supply in different value chain.
price is also determined by area too. you do not expect someone in ikorodu to patronise someone in badagry unless price is considered to cover primary costs when compared with the one in the immediate locality.
therefore we have to work on our value chain.
but we farmers are too lazy to climb the value chain and expect others to climb on our behalf. that's where the middle men come in. we prefer to sell our products to the bath women and the aboki melange buyers than going out to hustle for our own customers.
who are their customers. the pepper soup people, hotel and dried fish users. therefore the higher you go the better your price but it's not easy at first.

so do not expect any price update. it is you that should determine price based on your cost and source of capital.
so try this. locate the beer palours and hotels around you and offer them your price. no way it is better than the bath women cos you are the farmer and promise them on time delivery with little price for logistics.
also construct an oven and dry your fish. buy nylon and stapler package it and take it out to supermart and shops,companies and schools, parastatals and barracks and you will be surprised.
don't wait till harvest. start harvesting little by little.
I do not patronize melange buyers cos I say to myself where will aboki enter that I can't. package yourself and don't look like an hungry farmer and you will be surprised where you will enter. just look smart.
I can teach any one how to construct an oven free of charge. but its a brick oven which is the best not those glorified iron oven that will still not last. its affordable and the output can be exported cos there will be zero PAH.
though most farmers are very secretive with their customers but I tell you customers are everywhere even your neighbour.
if farmers determine price its okay but not these aboki melange and bath women. I determine my price 730 and you too can. feed price did not come down. did you determine it.
so take note. thanks

That's very kind of you to want to teach us how to construct brick oven. Please am interested. Looking forward to update on oven construction

Ttalk:
That's very kind of you to want to teach us how to construct brick oven. Please am interested. Looking forward to update on oven construction

thanks. I will prepare my write up and get back to the house.

though the necessary materials are
1 space. may be at the backyard of your house or farm but must be close to water supply for washing the fish
2. iron . a sound welder will handle this aspect.
3. sand and cement. - a good bricklayer will do this.
that's all you need.

1 you need to carve out a 2.5ft by 2.5ft space and tell your brick layer to build a single wardrobe style cubi of about 7 to 8 blocks high. the blocks when setting should be filled internally with filling so that heat can be retained for a longer time.
2. tell your welder to come take measurement of the top to construct an iron plate with a chimney like outlet for excess air to pass out for casting the decking.
3. then tell your bricklayer to cast the decking lightly with the iron plate serving as the base.
4. let the welder take good inner measurement and construct a standing tray hanger of about 10 layers.
5 also let him prepare the trays using good iron wire mesh.
6 let him also take a look and prepare a standard checkers plated door or any door of good quality and ensure that it can tightly close without letting out air unnecessarily.
7 tell your bricklayer to fix the door when it is ready..
8 let your bricklayer plaster all the inner and outer surroundings of the oven
9 get s standard coal pot..
10. oven is ready .
pictures will follow soon but you can ask questions.

Emmafly:
thanks. I will prepare my write up and get back to the house.

though the necessary materials are
1 space. may be at the backyard of your house or farm but must be close to water supply for washing the fish
2. iron . a sound welder will handle this aspect.
3. sand and cement. - a good bricklayer will do this.
that's all you need.

1 you need to carve out a 2.5ft by 2.5ft space and tell your brick layer to build a single wardrobe style cubi of about 7 to 8 blocks high. the blocks when setting should be filled internally with filling so that heat can be retained for a longer time.
2. tell your welder to come take measurement of the top to construct an iron plate with a chimney like outlet for excess air to pass out for casting the decking.
3. then tell your bricklayer to cast the decking lightly with the iron plate serving as the base.
4. let the welder take good inner measurement and construct a standing tray hanger of about 10 layers.
5 also let him prepare the trays using good iron wire mesh.
6 let him also take a look and prepare a standard checkers plated door or any door of good quality and ensure that it can tightly close without letting out air unnecessarily.
7 tell your bricklayer to fix the door when it is ready..
8 let your bricklayer plaster all the inner and outer surroundings of the oven
9 get s standard coal pot..
10. oven is ready .
pictures will follow soon but you can ask questions.

. Very very appreciative of your write ups. Will be expecting the pictures also.
What's the thickness of the decking casting in inches?
Thanks.

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Emmafly:
the issue of price is based on the law of demand and supply in different value chain.
price is also determined by area too. you do not expect someone in ikorodu to patronise someone in badagry unless price is considered to cover primary costs when compared with the one in the immediate locality.
therefore we have to work on our value chain.
but we farmers are too lazy to climb the value chain and expect others to climb on our behalf. that's where the middle men come in. we prefer to sell our products to the bath women and the aboki melange buyers than going out to hustle for our own customers.
who are their customers. the pepper soup people, hotel and dried fish users. therefore the higher you go the better your price but it's not easy at first.

so do not expect any price update. it is you that should determine price based on your cost and source of capital.
so try this. locate the beer palours and hotels around you and offer them your price. no way it is better than the bath women cos you are the farmer and promise them on time delivery with little price for logistics.
also construct an oven and dry your fish. buy nylon and stapler package it and take it out to supermart and shops,companies and schools, parastatals and barracks and you will be surprised.
don't wait till harvest. start harvesting little by little.
I do not patronize melange buyers cos I say to myself where will aboki enter that I can't. package yourself and don't look like an hungry farmer and you will be surprised where you will enter. just look smart.
I can teach any one how to construct an oven free of charge. but its a brick oven which is the best not those glorified iron oven that will still not last. its affordable and the output can be exported cos there will be zero PAH.
though most farmers are very secretive with their customers but I tell you customers are everywhere even your neighbour.
if farmers determine price its okay but not these aboki melange and bath women. I determine my price 730 and you too can. feed price did not come down. did you determine it.
so take note. thanks

Very interesting angle & perspective to the topic. I'm sure many farmers can step up their efforts at getting value for their products by adopting those methods you prescribed. But, definitely those other groups too are important to the business just like in other sectors. It will be very hard for all farmers esp those in it on part time basis to do all you prescribed. With appropriate informations & organizations everyone in the value-chain can be adequately rewarded for their roles & services without anyone being cheated.

And thanks in advance for the promised information on oven construction. Regards to everyone.

Emmafly:
thanks. I will prepare my write up and get back to the house.

though the necessary materials are
1 space. may be at the backyard of your house or farm but must be close to water supply for washing the fish
2. iron . a sound welder will handle this aspect.
3. sand and cement. - a good bricklayer will do this.
that's all you need.

1 you need to carve out a 2.5ft by 2.5ft space and tell your brick layer to build a single wardrobe style cubi of about 7 to 8 blocks high. the blocks when setting should be filled internally with filling so that heat can be retained for a longer time.
2. tell your welder to come take measurement of the top to construct an iron plate with a chimney like outlet for excess air to pass out for casting the decking.
3. then tell your bricklayer to cast the decking lightly with the iron plate serving as the base.
4. let the welder take good inner measurement and construct a standing tray hanger of about 10 layers.
5 also let him prepare the trays using good iron wire mesh.
6 let him also take a look and prepare a standard checkers plated door or any door of good quality and ensure that it can tightly close without letting out air unnecessarily.
7 tell your bricklayer to fix the door when it is ready..
8 let your bricklayer plaster all the inner and outer surroundings of the oven
9 get s standard coal pot..
10. oven is ready .
pictures will follow soon but you can ask questions.

Many thanks for this.

Kindly update with pictures. We are very expectant and appreciative.

Emmafly:
thanks. I will prepare my write up and get back to the house.

though the necessary materials are
1 space. may be at the backyard of your house or farm but must be close to water supply for washing the fish
2. iron . a sound welder will handle this aspect.
3. sand and cement. - a good bricklayer will do this.
that's all you need.

1 you need to carve out a 2.5ft by 2.5ft space and tell your brick layer to build a single wardrobe style cubi of about 7 to 8 blocks high. the blocks when setting should be filled internally with filling so that heat can be retained for a longer time.
2. tell your welder to come take measurement of the top to construct an iron plate with a chimney like outlet for excess air to pass out for casting the decking.
3. then tell your bricklayer to cast the decking lightly with the iron plate serving as the base.
4. let the welder take good inner measurement and construct a standing tray hanger of about 10 layers.
5 also let him prepare the trays using good iron wire mesh.
6 let him also take a look and prepare a standard checkers plated door or any door of good quality and ensure that it can tightly close without letting out air unnecessarily.
7 tell your bricklayer to fix the door when it is ready..
8 let your bricklayer plaster all the inner and outer surroundings of the oven
9 get s standard coal pot..
10. oven is ready .
pictures will follow soon but you can ask questions.

Thanks for this new insight. Now my question sir
1. How long will it take to dry fish
2. How will this method reduce the PAH
3. Can one use gas to power it or combination of both charcoal and gas
4. How will this oven collect fish oil
And the pics

Ttalk:
Thanks for this new insight. Now my question sir
1. How long will it take to dry fish
2. How will this method reduce the PAH
3. Can one use gas to power it or combination of both charcoal and gas
4. How will this oven collect fish oil
And the pics

dear house,
thanks for your comments.
the oven is still in use I will surely update pics.

two to three days for longer shelve life.
when the fish is properly degilled and the oven door is constructed properly to reduce oxygen PAH will be zero.
you can use both depending on the construction. you can also use electric stove. it all depends on your preference but I use strictly charcoal and it comes out very perfect and tasty.
ovens don't collect fish oil. its a fable that ovens collect fish oil. a properly degilled fish will have no oil except at the tail which is during drying. the big secret about fish oil is that you get it from the degilled remnants of your fish. put the remnants in a big bowl filled with water. the white solid fat layer of the fish remnants will float up. take them, rinse properly, sieve out the water and put the solid fat in a pot. cook until it melts very well but not burnt. take out the shell then that's the oil. I do not encourage farmers to sell it cos it can be used for normal cooking in the home. try it.
do u know fifty kg of fish will give you above one litre of fish oil.
do you know fish remnants are cooked and fed back to fishes. there fore you are the biggest gainer when you dry your fish cos you throwaway nothing.
thanks

Emmafly:
dear house,
thanks for your comments.
the oven is still in use I will surely update pics.

two to three days for longer shelve life.
when the fish is properly degilled and the oven door is constructed properly to reduce oxygen PAH will be zero.
you can use both depending on the construction. you can also use electric stove. it all depends on your preference but I use strictly charcoal and it comes out very perfect and tasty.
ovens don't collect fish oil. its a fable that ovens collect fish oil. a properly degilled fish will have no oil except at the tail which is during drying. the big secret about fish oil is that you get it from the degilled remnants of your fish. put the remnants in a big bowl filled with water. the white solid fat layer of the fish remnants will float up. take them, rinse properly, sieve out the water and put the solid fat in a pot. cook until it melts very well but not burnt. take out the shell then that's the oil. I do not encourage farmers to sell it cos it can be used for normal cooking in the home. try it.
do u know fifty kg of fish will give you above one litre of fish oil.
do you know fish remnants are cooked and fed back to fishes. there fore you are the biggest gainer when you dry your fish cos you throwaway nothing.
thanks

. Do you salt your fish before drying?
You are doing wonderful with the insights.
Every practising agro-entrepreneur should know that there is no waste in the business.

saheed3:
Stock density depends on individual water mgt, but we recommend
24ft by 10ft by 4ft - for 1500 capacity to table size
20ft by 10ft by 4ft - for 1000 capacity to table size
22ft by 7ft by 4ft -

14ft by 11ft with a depth of 4.5ft. . Will that take 800 to 1000 fishes

lobell:
Many thanks for this.

Kindly update with pictures. We are very expectant and appreciative.

dear farmers,
below are the pictures.
pls note- it is not necessary that the same dimension should be used. just work on your budget. u can also use five or six blocks height.
the chimney hole is not round open but five or six nail holes through the deck iron plate to prevent excess heat emission.
note there is a little hole at the base by the door for inlet of little oxygen to keep the coal burning, the tray hanger is not static to the wall or floor. it is detachable.so u can do cleaning inside the compartment.
the distance between the coal and the last tray should be at least fifteen inches apart.
you may not need the fire guard/mesh if the oven door is properly constructed to avoid excess air entering. in this case your fish can never get burnt and PAH is almost equal to zero.
thanks for your time.

Emmafly:
dear farmers,
below are the pictures.
pls note- it is not necessary that the same dimension should be used. just work on your budget. u can also use five or six blocks height.
the chimney hole is not round open but five or six nail holes through the deck iron plate to prevent excess heat emission.
note there is a little hole at the base by the door for inlet of little oxygen to keep the coal burning, the tray hanger is not static to the wall or floor. it is detachable.so u can do cleaning inside the compartment.
the distance between the coal and the last tray should be at least fifteen inches apart.
you may not need the fire guard/mesh if the oven door is properly constructed to avoid excess air entering. in this case your fish can never get burnt and PAH is almost equal to zero.
thanks for your time.

more

Emmafly:
more

. Please the last pix;
Is that the pan with holes that's place on the deck before casting?

Hi,

could you please add:
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Many thanks.

miqos02:
its a whatsapp grp with active members

Emmafly:
dear farmers,
below are the pictures.
pls note- it is not necessary that the same dimension should be used. just work on your budget. u can also use five or six blocks height.
the chimney hole is not round open but five or six nail holes through the deck iron plate to prevent excess heat emission.
note there is a little hole at the base by the door for inlet of little oxygen to keep the coal burning, the tray hanger is not static to the wall or floor. it is detachable.so u can do cleaning inside the compartment.
the distance between the coal and the last tray should be at least fifteen inches apart.
you may not need the fire guard/mesh if the oven door is properly constructed to avoid excess air entering. in this case your fish can never get burnt and PAH is almost equal to zero.
thanks for your time.

Many thanks for this. God bless.

bixton:
. Please the last pix;
Is that the pan with holes that's place on the deck before casting?

no . its the coal cover. that's the first layer mesh. but its not necessary if the oven is properly constructed. I don't use it.
the deck one is just a flat iron with about three iron rods joined in between to withstand the weight of the deck load.
thanks

Thanks bro, you are a life saver. I have been trying to sell my fishes for about a month now and it seems the buyers connived to try and cheat me with ridiculously low prices. I will construct this and dry my fishes. Thanks a million. I will ask questions about this as the need arises.

Emmafly:
no . its the coal cover. that's the first layer mesh. but its not necessary if the oven is properly constructed. I don't use it.
the deck one is just a flat iron with about three iron rods joined in between to withstand the weight of the deck load.
thanks