₦airaland Forum

emekaRaj:
Pls kindly tell us which sect is going to jannat, because I will like to be part of it.

There is actually really no name, i would have said ahlu sunnah but kufars are even calling themselves ahlu sunnah. . . ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PRACTISE ISLAM ACCORDING TO THE RULINGS OF QURAN AND HADITH. . . . .thats all, . .visit voiceofthesalaf.com & download lectures but note; only follow what has proof in quran and hadithMG

Empiree:
OK cool. Is using spoon ibadah?.

How many times will i explain? . .its u that will prove it to me that using spoon to eat is not bida. . .and besides, shey you wey no sabi bida will explain it to me?

AhluSunnah:
How many times will i explain? . .its u that will prove it to me that using spoon to eat is not bida. . .and besides, shey you wey no sabi bida will explain it to me?

paper money and spoon, what's the difference?.

Your problem is, you condemned one of the two bcus it suits you. You condoned the other bcus you can't get out of it

Your hypocrisy stinks

Empiree:
paper money and spoon, what's the difference?.

Your problem is, you condemned one of the two bcus it suits you. You condoned the other bcus you can't get out of it

Your hypocrisy stinks

OLODO NI E. paper,money,spoon are innovation of the world.ALLAH commanded us to eat with 3 fingers. . using spoon to replace that 3 fingers make spoon a bida. . sho ti ye e? sp0on is n0t bida of the deen. it becomes bida of the deen when replaced with 3 fingers

AlBaqir:
# In Islam, whatever you want to do, you start with your family first. I want to believe only you is "AhluSunnah" while the rest of your family are "Kuffar". So you can let your Amir shaytan kill them first.

MR KAFIR. . U AND YOUR SHIA FAMILY ARE WORSE THAN IBLIS. . I HAVE TOLD U NEVER TO QUOTE ME AGAIN IN YOUR MISERABLE LIFE. . . WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN C0MMON. KEFERI OSHI

AhluSunnah:
OLODO NI E. paper,money,spoon are innovation of the world.ALLAH commanded us to eat with 3 fingers. . using spoon to replace that 3 fingers make spoon a bida. . sho ti ye e? sp0on is n0t bida of the deen. it becomes bida of the deen when replaced with 3 fingers

Ode, doesn't paper money replaced "sunnah money" called dinar and durham mentioned in the Quran and hadith?.

Dinar and Durham were given to us by Allah and was used up until Ottoman Empire before Western chrisrianity destroyed it and replaced with ficticious paper money. Are you sure you are really Sunnatic?

The real money was gold dinar and silver durham. Olodo

Empiree:
Ode, doesn't paper money replaced "sunnah money" called dinar and durham mentioned in the Quran and hadith?.

Dinar and Durham were given to us by Allah and was used up until Ottoman Empire before Western chrisrianity destroyed it and replaced with ficticious paper money. Are you sure you are really Sunnatic?

The real money was gold dinar and silver durham. Olodo

IS DHIRAM AN IBAADAH? IS GOLD AN IBAADAH? like i said, u dont kn0w what bida is. . go learn. . e lo ka tira

AhluSunnah:
IS DHIRAM AN IBAADAH? IS GOLD AN IBAADAH? like i said, u dont kn0w what bida is. . go learn. . e lo ka tira

is spoon ibadah?

Empiree:
is spoon ibadah?

ABSOLUTELY NO. . . . . . spoon becomes a bida because its used to replace an ibaadah (eating with 3 fingers)

I comment without supporting the extreme language being used on this thread

AlBaqir:
# Why won't those soldiers beat them when they are all of wahabi ideologist that believe Nabi is "dead and cannot hear or reply"?!

Somebody has observed that even if a Hindu refutes a Shia, the Shia will call the Hindu a Wahabi!

AlBaqir:
Indeed Quran as exposed people of such ideology that, "Do not say those who died in Allah's path are dead, Nah! they are ALIVE but you do not perceive"

Shias love this Quote and their extreme Sufi allies also love it. Afterall there is a Sufi on YouTube arguing that the Prophet (SAW) did not die and Janazah was not prayed on him

Shias also love the hadith below

The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount (Kauthar) and some men amongst you will be brought to me, and when I will try to hand them some water, they will be pulled away from me by force whereupon I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' Then the Almighty will say, 'You do not know what they did after you left, they introduced new things into the religion after you.'

Bukhari Vol 9

Now we know that Shias direct their dua to the dead while claiming they are doing tawassul, a fallacy already debunked in the Qur'an

Surely, religion is exclusively devoted to Allah. Your religion is entirely consecrated to Him. As for those who have taken others than Allah for their guardians, (they say): “We worship them only that they may bring us nearer to Allah. Allah will judge between them concerning what they differ about.6 Verily Allah does not guide anyone who is given to sheer lying, is an utter unbeliever

Qur'an 39:3

Shias should answer these two questions?
Is the Prophet (SAW) doing intercession more important than his (SAW) conveying the message of Islam so that people are guided?
Is the Prophet awake in his grave doing intercession like Shias want us to believe or dead are unaware that his (SAW) followers has deviated (like Shias want like to point out)

AlBaqir:
# Here's Hadith sahih:

" [i]It is attributed to Dawud bin Abu Salih. He says: one day Marwan came and he saw that a man was lying down with his mouth turned close to the Prophet’s grave. Then he (Marwan) said to him, “Do you know what are you doing?” When he moved towards him, he saw that it was Abu Ayyub al-Ansari (a Sahabi). (In reply) he said, “ Yes (I know) I have come to the Messenger of Allah and not to a stone. I have heard it from the Messenger of God not to cry over religion when its guardian is competent. Yes, shed tears over religion when its guardian is incompetent."

# Was that Sahabi worshipping the grave, o you ignorant fanatic?

This is what sunnis say when they visit graves

"As – Salaamu alaa Ahlid – Diyaar minal Mumineena wal Muslimeen Yarhamullah al Mustaqdimeena min-naa wal Mustakhireen wa in-naa InshaAllahu bikum Laahiqoon "
"Peace be upon the inhabitants of this city (graveyard) from among the Believers and the Muslims, and may Allah have mercy on those who have gone ahead of us, and those who come later on, and we shall, God willing, join you."

The aqeeda of Sunnis in relation to graves

"Ali said to Abu Al-Hayyaj Al-Asadi: 'I am dispatching you with what the Prophet dispatched me: "That you not leave an elevated grave without leveling it, nor an image without erasing it.

Sahih Muslim, The Book on Jana''iz (Funerals)

This is what Shias do to and at graves
The graves are more beautiful than the homes and schools of the living
They pray to the dead buried in those graves

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BetaThings . . . are u saying shia are not kafir?

AhluSunnah:
ABSOLUTELY NO. . . . . . spoon becomes a bida because its used to replace an ibaadah (eating with 3 fingers)

Good.

So is paper money. Money legislated and recommended by Allah for mankind is dinar and Durham, now replaced with paper money. Again, there is no difference. You consider eating with 3 fingers an act of worship which is replaced with "bid'a" (spoon) according to you.

Spoon itself is not bidah according to you but when it replaces sunnah it becomes bidah. You consider eating with 3 fingers to be sunnah because it is mentioned in the sunnah. Isn't dinar and Durham mentioned in the kitab and sunnah?.


Your problem is, you know you are involved with paper money. Declaring it bidah would put you on hot spot. So, again, there is no difference where you are trying to make one.

Empiree:
Good.

So is paper money. Money legislated and recommended by Allah for mankind is dinar and Durham, now replaced with paper money. Again, there is no difference. You consider eating with 3 fingers an act of worship which is replaced with "bid'a" (spoon) according to you.

Spoon itself is not bidah avoiding to you but when it replaces sunnah it becomes bidah. You consider eating with 3 fingers to be sunnah because it is mentioned in the sunnah. Isn't dinar and Durham mentioned in the kitab and sunnah?.


Your problem is, you know you are involved with paper money. Declaring it bidah would put you on hot seat. So, again, there is no difference where you are trying to make one

GBENU SOUN JARE. . Common ibaadah, bida of the world and of islam you simply cant understand. . until u dump ur sufi and ur thinking sense is restructured, maybe u wil understand..just visit jabata audio to know what bida means. . abfg no quote me again. . mgw

AhluSunnah:
GBENU SOUN JARE. . Common ibaadah, bida of the world and of islam you simply cant understand. . until u dump ur sufi and ur thinking sense is restructured, maybe u wil understand..just visit jabata audio to know what bida means. . abfg no quote me again. . mgw

Escape route when you cant defend yourself logically.

Leave sufi aside and face reality. You simply refused to recognise paper money as bid'a and haram bcus you know that you also spend paper money which makes you alhubida too. And according to you all bid'a is kufr and kufr leads to hell. So why are you trying to divide bi'da now?. You said Quran and hadith dont divide bid'a. Are you being hypocritical.

Empiree:
Escape route when you cant defend yourself logically.

Leave sufi aside and face reality. You simply refused to recognise paper money as bid'a and haram bcus you know that you also spend paper money which makes you alhubida too. And according to you all bid'a is kufr and kufr leads to hell. So why are you trying to divide bi'da now?. You said Quran and hadith dont divide bid'a. Are you being hypocritical.

TSHEW

AhluSunnah:
TSHEW

Exactly, you had to do this bcus you have no counterclaim. It is official.


* You spend paper money.

* Paper money is haram

* Paper money is Bid'a

* All bid'a lead to sin and kufr

* All bid'a lead to HellFire.

Do you remember what i told you about pointing finger a at others, the rest of your fingers point right back at you?. So you are officially alhubida and alhubida are going to Hell (giving you your own dose).

Deal With It

^^^

So, AhluSunnah is now an official candidate of hellfire for spending paper money instead of Dinar/Dirham coin that are stated in Kitab Wa Sunnah.

Barak'Allahu fik for entering hellfire.

# Empiree, nice job.

AlBaqir:
^^^

So, AhluSunnah is now an official candidate of hellfire for spending paper money instead of Dinar/Dirham coin that are stated in Kitab Wa Sunnah.

Barak'Allahu fik for entering hellfire.

# Empiree, nice job.

LAUGHING