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blacKDalia:
The vehicle with the camouflage painting doesn't look NA's to me.

tdayof:
It's my turn to rest nemesis2u here.

Mr nenesis2u what do you notice with the pictures in the post I'm quoting?

nemesis2u:
1st pic medical kits saline bottles

2nd pic the army had to tow the vehicle so engines or something else was disabled / destroyed . interesting the windshield wipers r not in their usual position

3rd pic is same vehicle of 2nd pic and has a impact point on the windscreen, bullet ? r the windows bullet proof ?

4th pic the rear door of white car is interesting, looks like sign of burning fire was internal and the flames came out, the bumper damage is interesting maybe it was struck/cornered


overall view

no targeting of the vehicles in general by gunfire

the law enforcement vehicles r disabled and had to be towed for recovery except the white one

on the unfortunate day was it raining hard or very dusty conditions ?

nemesis2u:
1st pic medical kits saline bottles

2nd pic the army had to tow the vehicle so engines or something else was disabled / destroyed . interesting the windshield wipers r not in their usual position

3rd pic is same vehicle of 2nd pic and has a impact point on the windscreen, bullet ? r the windows bullet proof ?

4th pic the rear door of white car is interesting, looks like sign of burning fire was internal and the flames came out, the bumper damage is interesting maybe it was struck/cornered


overall view

no targeting of the vehicles in general by gunfire

the law enforcement vehicles r disabled and had to be towed for recovery except the white one

on the unfortunate day was it raining hard or very dusty conditions ?

Henry240:
We recently ordered 177 MRAPs and LAVs. 25 have been delivered already.

Add the 120 CS/VP3 MRAPs and 47 Reva MRAPs ordered, we are building our armoured mobility.

There is also the 9 ARA MRAPs ordered from Proforce.

Off-course we need a minimum of 2000 MRAPs, but at least, something is being done.

persius555:
Thanks for pointing this out. @bidexii, Going by the images of arms recovered from the ambush, it is obvious that BHT is fed with troop planning and movement in that region.


These Info's cost more than a leg and a arm and it is obvious snitches are selling out and only BH has the resources to pay for this.

BH is changing tactics real fast, let's hope the military tidy their own end of the knot. There has to be serious investment in aerial surveillance especially when it involves movement of highly priced human assets.

RIP to late heroic soldiers.

Odunayaw:
The vest in the first picture is what I constantly advocate dicon to produce.BP vest with Pouch Attachment Ladder System is modular and SMEs can spring up to produce mission specific pouches for it
God have mercy on DIcOn there is a war going on and they are not making profit (Forgive me for this)


Meanwhile what rifle is in pic 3

peterphd:
Hello bidexiii, do our troops (maybe SF) have tactical helmets with a camera attached for live updates to maybe DHQ or AHQ? Plus which service branch guys are standing in front of the chopper? They are wearing black trousers

tdayof:
Bidexii jakesporeshenko


What did you notice with the vehicles the military recovered ?

IbnSultaan:
The group responsible for recent attack on oil explorers n NA are from a different fraction of BH known to target military aggressively, they operate around lake chad while other fraction ops around Cameroon axis .
Both 7 Div and MNJTF should carry out their independent operations together
Ops rawan kada and deep punch with aggressively deployment of ISR, specialist operations and complete blockade of region to deny freedom of movement and resupply

tdayof:
Thanks for your analysis. The vehicles are among those that encountered an ambush.

It's obvious the vehicles were not targeted at all as there's no trace of RPG fire/ sharpenel or bullet holes.

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Bidexii another thing that comes to my mind is that, the guys might have gone down from their vehicle to provide fire for their partners. I guess during this, they got shot.

komekn:
I am not sure how you are coming to your deductions.

From my understanding of our approach we still operate with an assumption of deterrence, i.e. moving in large convoys to ensure security its not rocket science to know NA movements they are not moving in small units with stealth but long 100 vehicle convoys under escort and over large distances. In some instances with regularity like clock work.

So update your analysis please and do not assume boko are stupid.


In Afghanistan even travelling in large convoys of 25+ plus vehicles which would all be ARMOURED at least Stanag level 3 but usually much more with the American procured MRAPS. But nothing was done in clockwork regularity never taking the same route twice with regularity, zig zagging going off road to mitigate IED threats.

Compare what the NA does sticks to main roads and routes highly trained combatants in soft skinned vehicles. HMG mounted with minimal protection and not stabilised on soft skinned pick ups. Also till date we do not have definitive IFV.

I wonder about the communication infrastructure, situational awareness and defensive / offensive contingency strategy and plan.


These incidents are not about boko ingenuity and intelligence but structural handicaps and failings on our behalf. The amount of misinformation that came from the NA smacks of very little battle field management and communication but rather chaos and confusion.



ADMITTING FAILURE IS THE FIRST STEP TO VICTORY



The video below and the supposed strategic analysis that stretches the meaning of strategic to the extreme, leaves much to be desired, i am being very diplomatic and this is an explanation by a senior officer of the NA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzABrTtdTrk

Odunayaw:
The vest in the first picture is what I constantly advocate dicon to produce.BP vest with Pouch Attachment Ladder System is modular and SMEs can spring up to produce mission specific pouches for it
God have mercy on DIcOn there is a war going on and they are not making profit (Forgive me for this)


Meanwhile what rifle is in pic 3

bidexiii:
i believe this Rifle with the air vents ( holes) is the modified version of the HK416

komekn:
Looks like a HK417 to me.

bidexiii:
i believe this Rifle with the air vents ( holes) is the modified version of the HK416

komekn:
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If you ambush a French convoy in Mali within 6/7 minutes there will be airsupport from Rafael fighter jets or similar. 15 minutes there will be helicopter gunships. Within 20 minutes back up support from ground units. within the additional time frame you will have Drones tracking for the next 24 hrs.

komekn:
Getting ambushed in a war zone characterised with attrition warfare is not a suprise but an expectation.

The idea that you get suprised by an ambush seems absurd. You know you are going get ambushed, you just don't exactly when,but you are fully expectant and prepared.

Battlefield management says you have a offensive and defensive contingency plan that includes back up support. But it seems basic battlefield communication management were non existent in this incident. Add to that not so long g ago a group of women were abducted in a military convoy all within the same vicinity.

If you ambush a French convoy in Mali within 6/7 minutes there will be airsupport from Rafael fighter jets or similar. 15 minutes there will be helicopter gunships. Within 20 minutes back up support from ground units. within the additional time frame you will have Drones tracking for the next 24 hrs.

Basically the intended ambush by the terrorists will be turned around against them and render it a suicide mission for the terrorists. None of them will escape the idea of taking hostages non existent.


I do not see this as a Boko informants at work. I see this as complacency on the part of the NA.

Odunayaw:
Sh1t doesn't go according to this script bro

Support forces can always be ambushed and re-ambushed on a bad day

However I am on the same page with you that this was brought forth by part complacency


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