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Warship:
The 2015 election result is a proof of your comment about the Igbos being the most populated



Yoruba+Hausa Fulani+ Minorities= 15Mil voters


Igbos + Minorities = 12Mil voters



One Major tribe + Minorities giving Jonathan such a number tells you that we aren't a small tribe

Despite the voter apathy in the SEast...What if igbos had voted like they did in 2011

Obi1kenobi:
Igbos are resented not because of jealousy, but because of this kind of boastful arrogance. Yorubas are the most accomplished tribe in Nigeria, but they don't attract the resentment Igbos do. For me, one major reason is they don't travel around as much, so they don't clash too much with host communities like Igbos, but also in my opinion, one of the reasons for this is they are more respectful of other groups and carry themselves with less brashness and arrogance than a lot of Igbo people do.

Do you reason at all? Read those books again and let me see if you will type this rubbish you posted

amliftedhigher:
Do you reason at all? Read those books again and let me see if you will type this rubbish you posted

Read which book? What do the excerpts have to do with what I said?

IloveMoney:
Gbam!

You're quoting someone who is basically saying Igbos (seems he thinks even Calabar people were "Eboes" ) are the best type of sub-human African slaves and you're happy with such condescension because it somehow makes you feel better than other negroes, even though you're still just a negro slave in his eyes. Do you see how mentally ill you are? Do you see the disease ravaging you?

Igbos are resented not because of jealousy, but because of this kind of boastful arrogance. Yorubas are the most accomplished tribe in Nigeria, but they don't attract the resentment Igbos do.

Too many Igbos from Ijebu Igbo parading around NL these days.

You need help.

pazienza:
Igbos are resented not because of jealousy, but because of this kind of boastful arrogance. Yorubas are the most accomplished tribe in Nigeria, but they don't attract the resentment Igbos do.

Too many Igbos from Ijebu Igbo parading around NL these days.

You need help.

No be today I begin dey hear dis kind nonsense. It always means I've comprehensively defeated the opposing arguments when the last resort is questioning my heritage. I will still wake up tomorrow the son of an Oraukwu man and Agulu woman from Anambra. Delegitimizing my heritage will still not remove one single drop of my blood.

Anytime I happen to pass and see you people embarrassing me with your irritating chest-beating, I'll be here to drum some common sense into the conversation. You're just another group of negroes in a country and continent of failed negroes. You're not better than anyone. You're not smarter than anyone. The day you're humble and mature enough to absorb that fact is the day you help to move national discourse forward.

Lloydfather:
This book should silence all the critics against the igbo's

Furthermore it has open my eyes to reality why the British seed power to northerners, why at every provocation the igbos are the target, the book also confirm that igbos are the largest tribe as against what they want us to believe that northerners are more populated than us, it also highlights that we are more organized and formidable than any tribe as again the slogans that we don't love our self, but when Igbo man from Anambra want to train someone he will go as far as Enugu, abia, IMO, Eboyin even delta and Edo state to bring a boy to train.

To be honest the author of this book say the truth when he said Igbo are not aggressive in nature and we don't see an average Hausa man as enemy but their victims at any slight provocation.

All I will say is that other tribes are just jealous of our gin and achievement.
Better still we are the reason there is Nigeria today. I AM PROUD TO HAVE COME FROM THIS WONDERFUL TRIBE.

Who are the contributors to the data, are these independent or indigenous? If indigeneous, what ethnicity?

Obi1kenobi:
No be today I begin dey hear dis kind nonsense. It always means I've comprehensively defeated the opposing arguments when the last resort is questioning my heritage. I will still wake up tomorrow the son of an Oraukwu man and Agulu woman from Anambra. Delegitimizing my heritage will still not remove one single drop of my blood.

Anytime I happen to pass and see you people embarrassing me with your irritating chest-beating, I'll be here to drum some common sense into the conversation. You're just another group of negroes in a country and continent of failed negroes. You're not better than anyone. You're not smarter than anyone. The day you're humble and mature enough to absorb that fact is the day you help to move national discourse forward.

Any laggard human being can claim to be anything on internet.
For example, I can claim to be Olawale, the son of the the great Apata of Ipe kingdom, with maternal links in Ifira all from Ondo state.
I can even speak Ipe language to prove this.

But does that make me a Yoruba man?

You are an impostor. You are not Igbo.
Stop being pathetic, you can put across your points without claiming Igbo, as doing such makes you look and sound stupid. You fool no one but yourself.

You are not smart, you are a learner.

It took them
40yrs to bring igboland under their
control


That's the difference! the Igbos outstand those who standout

pazienza:
Any laggard human being can claim to be anything on internet.
For example, I can claim to be Olawale, the son of the the great Apata of Ipe kingdom, with maternal links in Ifira all from Ondo state.
I can even speak Ipe language to prove this.

But does that make me a Yoruba man?

You are an impostor. You are not Igbo.
Stop being pathetic, you can put across your points without claiming Igbo, as doing such makes you look and sound stupid. You fool no one but yourself.

You are not smart, you are a learner.

Again, your mooronic dribble only proves you empty of a substantive response to anything I've said. I couldn't give less of a shiit if you think I'm Igbo or not. If na so e pain you, walk off a cliff or take some rat poison.

pazienza:
Igbos are resented not because of jealousy, but because of this kind of boastful arrogance. Yorubas are the most accomplished tribe in Nigeria, but they don't attract the resentment Igbos do.
You need help.

Igbos are not resented. Do you know any tribe in Nigeria that resent having Igbos as their in-laws?

IloveMoney:
Talking about cohesion, this also tells you why once igbos give you their support on any political journey, you can go and sleep with your two eyes closed because you will be rest assured that they will not betray you and you will get block votes from the east. it was same with Abiola, Obasanjo, and Jonathan. Unlike the west where their votes is always divided, which tells about their unity and sincerity and why you cannot trust them in any political engagement. They are not reliable.

Powerful statement you put out there my brother; it demoralizes the long-held monstrosity peddled by yorubas that Igbos are not cohesive. As you stated, the common denominator in Igbos' voting block is they religiously vote over 90% for a candidate irrespective of their tribal affiliation or lineage. Conversely, Yorubas' voting block is always divided; usually 50/50.

Obi1kenobi:
Stop saying this nonsense. Yorubas have a long, proud history of activist resistance - more than any other group in Nigeria. Your Felas and Gani Fawehinmis and Falanas etc. Soyinka spent a long time in jail advocating for Igbos and the Biafran cause. A Yoruba man, Victor Banjo was entrusted with leading a Biafran offensive. Fajuyi died as a loyal devotee of Ironsi rather than give up his superior. Terming an entire tribe "cowards" because their politics clashed with Eastern politicians is silly.

IMHO, best post so far in this thread.

Obi1kenobi:
Igbos are resented not because of jealousy, but because of this kind of boastful arrogance. Yorubas are the most accomplished tribe in Nigeria, but they don't attract the resentment Igbos do. For me, one major reason is they don't travel around as much, so they don't clash too much with host communities like Igbos, but also in my opinion, one of the reasons for this is they are more respectful of other groups and carry themselves with less brashness and arrogance than a lot of Igbo people do.

IMHO, worst post so far in this thread.

Summary: Let the Igbos who are envied for their excellence be allowed to praise themselves.
But let people from other tribes who have done good also be praised.

Obi1kenobi:
You're quoting someone who is basically saying Igbos (seems he thinks even Calabar people were "Eboes" ) are the best type of sub-human African slaves and you're happy with such condescension because it somehow makes you feel better than other negroes, even though you're still just a negro slave in his eyes. Do you see how mentally ill you are? Do you see the disease ravaging you?

He wrote "New Calabar" which was Calabari hence today's Kalabari. I do not know why Yari.ba always like to twist facts.

Obi1kenobi: Igbos are resented not because of jealousy, but because of this kind of boastful arrogance. Yorubas are the most accomplished tribe in Nigeria, but they don't attract the resentment Igbos do. For me, one major reason is they don't travel around as much, so they don't clash too much with host communities like Igbos, but also in my opinion, one of the reasons for this is they are more respectful of other groups and carry themselves with less brashness and arrogance than a lot of Igbo people do.


IMHO, worst post so far in this thread.

This is arrant nonsense. I do not know how the shameless group that claimed returnees (Sierra Leoneans) as Yari.ba can be regarded as most accomplished tribe in Nigeria.

Obi1kenobi:
For me, one major reason is they don't travel around as much, so they don't clash too much with host communities like Igbos...

Igbo's are natural travellers and they have a right to do so.

Kanu is a criminal.

Warship:
The 2015 election result is a proof of your comment about the Igbos being the most populated


Yoruba+Hausa Fulani+ Minorities= 15Mil voters


Igbos + Minorities = 12Mil voters



One Major tribe + Minorities giving Jonathan such a number tells you that we aren't a small tribe

I hate to burst your chest-beating bubble, but I'm going to do it anyways. I bet you didn't know Yorubas gave Jonathan 40-50% of their votes. Buhari only won the Yoruba vote by a small margin. I couldn't care less anyways, Nigeria's politics as far as I'm concerned is a joke. All, I know is that Yorubas are diversed in their political affliation and aren't as swayed by religion divide/sentiments affecting many other ethnic groups.

Obi1kenobi:
No be today I begin dey hear dis kind nonsense. It always means I've comprehensively defeated the opposing arguments when the last resort is questioning my heritage. I will still wake up tomorrow the son of an Oraukwu man and Agulu woman from Anambra. Delegitimizing my heritage will still not remove one single drop of my blood.

Anytime I happen to pass and see you people embarrassing me with your irritating chest-beating, I'll be here to drum some common sense into the conversation. You're just another group of negroes in a country and continent of failed negroes. You're not better than anyone. You're not smarter than anyone. The day you're humble and mature enough to absorb that fact is the day you help to move national discourse forward.

Shut up your mouth


No be only Oraukwu na ukwuOra


Pazienza don't believe this guy to be Igbo.

Let him keep fooling himself thinking we have fallen for his trick.

...

Cool thread.

Learnt a lot.

Warship:
Shut up your mouth


No be only Oraukwu na ukwuOra


Pazienza don't believe this guy to be Igbo.

Let him keep fooling himself thinking we have fallen for his trick.

See the efulefu mugu that thinks he's a "Jew" questioning another man's Igbo identity.

Op God bless you.

you won't see Afons on this thread.. funny.

and dem no the truth oh. but will always twist it.
na why dem they ginger to regulate social media.. all dia propaganda don cast.. and to dish another na real wahala.. to sustain old once.. na die.

meanwhile KANU the give dem as e dey hot..Bp the rise.. lagoon loading..

wonder how a tribe choose to live in dia own deciet while passing it on to generations.. too bad.

see dey fajuyi matter.. dem twist am so dey em come they believe their lie..say fajuyi died cos of ironsi.. na so one dey argue wit me for faj hall..OAU.. Afons and dia mouth! haa dem nearly bury me with mouth and abuses even with evidence eh..

i get Afons plenty of dem as friends...
atimes i don't really blame them..is ignorance.

they don't bother to read/research history or anything about thIs unholy communion..except what dia parents or propagandists print media write.

meet dem at newpapers stand for front of SUB ife way bac and hear dem argue..

God bless the IGBO nation.
God bless the IZON nation..

Pray Arewa and Oduduwa nations wake up from their long sleep and slumber..

propaganda don't sale anymore.. the people are fully awake..
they've made mistakes already, better the seek peace and try to amend.. either by restructuring or disintegration. .

KaNu is holding dem by dey balls already.. wonder what will be dia fate..by he time..they great IZON youths wake to make dia Decision.. e no go easy eh..


Nigeria is a huge joke.

Let's hear from Achebe, the foremost Igboist of our time.



Nigeria’s foremost novelist Chinua Achebe has claimed that Nigerians, especially of the Hausa/Fulani and the Yoruba stocks, do not like his Igbo ethnic group because of the southeast’s cultural advantage.

He made this claim in his new book, There was a Country, which has generated controversy for his onslaught on the role of Obafemi Awolowo as the federal commissioner of finance during the Nigeria civil war. He accused Awolowo of genocide and imposition of food blockade on Biafra, a claim that has drawn rebuttals and contradictions of emotional intensity from some southwest leaders and commentators.

“I have written in my small book entitled The Trouble with Nigeria that Nigerians will probably achieve consensus on no other matter than their common resentment of the Igbo,” he wrote under the heading, A History of Ethnic Tension and Resentment. He traced the origin of “the national resentment of the Igbo” to its culture that “gave the Igbo man an unquestioned advantage over his compatriots in securing credentials for advancement in Nigerian colonial society.”

He observed that the Igbo culture’s emphasis on change, individualism and competitiveness gave his ethnic group an edge over the Hausa/Fulani man who was hindered by a “wary religion” and the Yoruba man who was hampered by” traditional hierarchies.”


He therefore described the Igbo, who are predominantly Catholic, as “fearing no god or man, was “custom-made to grasp the opportunities, such as they were, of the white man’s dispensations. And the Igbo did so with both hands.”

He delved into history with his claim, asserting that the Igbo overcame the earlier Yoruba advantage within two decades earlier in the twentieth century.

“Although the Yoruba had a huge historical and geographical head start, the Igbo wiped out their handicap in one fantastic burst of energy in the twenty years between 1930 and 1950.”

He narrated the earlier advantage of Yoruba as contingent on their location on the coastline, but once the missionaries crossed the Niger, the Igbo took advantage of the opportunity and overtook the Yoruba.

‘The increase was so exponential in such a short time that within three short decades the Igbos had closed the gap and quickly moved ahead as the group with the highest literacy rate, the highest standard of living, and the greatest of citizens with postsecondary education in Nigeria,” he contended.

He said Nigerian leadership should have taken advantage of the gbo talent and this failure was partly responsible for the failure of the Nigerian state, explaining further that competitive individualism and the adventurous spirit of the Igbo was a boon Nigerian leaders failed to recognize and harness for modernization.


“Nigeria’s pathetic attempt to crush these idiosyncrasies rather than celebrate them is one of the fundamental reasons the country has not developed as it should and has emerged as a laughingstock,” he claimed.

He noted that the ousting of prominent Igbos from top offices was a ploy to achieve a simple and crude goal. He said what the Nigerians wanted was to “get the achievers out and replace them with less qualified individuals from the desired ethnic background so as to gain access to the resources of the state.”

Achebe, however, saved some criticisms for his kinsmen. He criticised them for what he described as “hubris, overweening pride and thoughtlessness, which invite envy and hatred or even worse that can obsess the mind with material success and dispose it to all kinds of crude showiness.”

He added that “contemporary Igbo behavior(that) cab offend by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness.

Obi1kenobi:
And as I said, you're a comedian. Just another mooronic tribal, keyboard bigot. Igbos not being at the centre of power is irrelevant to the fact they were not as vocal as Yoruba activists in opposing the tyranny of our military rulers. I made a simple point that under a military administrator, you god, Kanu, would never have dared to defy the government and you're spewing irrelevant twaddle about the Arab spring.

I don't make my post to criticize or ridicule Igbos, but to point out the asinine logic in your post. If irrelevant, obscure clowns like you sit down behind your keyboard to label another tribe as "cowards", you have to be able to defend it. And all you've done is empty chest-beating. Every human being is an individual with his own qualities and I can't sit down to vomit such prejudicial stewpidity as calling other people cowards. Plenty of Yoruba people have done more courageous things than your entire lineage combined. A lot of you seriously need to get some humility. Watching a bunch of cursed, backward niggers arguing among themselves as to who is the master race of niggers is embarrassing to watch. You give credence to white supremacists who think black people are sub-human apes. In my opinion, Igbos are more guilty of this than other groups and you encapsulate this massive flaw. This is why despite being one of the most peaceful groups in the country, Igbos are the most despised group in this country. As Achebe once said "Nigerians would come to no other consensus other than their common hatred for the Igbo man". Even our Niger-Delta neighbours largely resent us. Many of you deceive yourselves that it is because of "envy", but it is more because of the way many Igbos carry themselves with such crudeness and arrogance and conceit.

This Akalogoli, scratch faced Afonja? why are you quoting Achebe out of context?

You are here writhing in pain like Earthworm on salt just because a thread is praising Ndiigbo, you are here fighting bitterly for your Afonja people.

How many times have we seen you fight bitterly for Ndiigbo in many threads your people open about Ndiigbo here?

IloveMoney:
Read well, one would understand why Britain didnt like the igbos and saw the Igbos as a threat to their hegemony in Nigeria and made sure they handed Nigeria to the fulanis. It took them 40yrs to bring igboland under their control, We fought their exploitation during Aba women riot, again we led other Nigerians to an anti colonial general strike in 1945 and also led the anti colonial movement that gave birth to Nigeria's independence. Then again we fought injustice during the civil war and till present IPOB is up again.

The igbos were at the forefront of Nigeria's independence than any other ethnic group.. forget all the noise of cowards parading themselves as founding fathers. They only true founding father Nigeria had was Azikiwe. The north never wanted Nigeria's Independence, the chameloen cowards yorubas were in the middle.

well done

pazienza:
This Akalogoli, scratch faced Afonja? why are you quoting Achebe out of context?

You are here writhing in pain like Earthworm on salt just because a thread is praising Ndiigbo, you are here fighting bitterly for your Afonja people.

How many times have we seen you fight bitterly for Ndiigbo in many threads your people open about Ndiigbo here?

If you weren't a cretin, you would see praising the advancement of Igbos is hardly what I'm replying, but calling a tribe of people cowards. Anyone that goes through my posting history would see several times on Yoruba threads I've had arguments about their ridiculing and abuse of Igbos. I spend more time on the Igbo originated threads though because I feel more shame when you people post utter nonsense. For the exact same reason I'm more likely to aggressively engage my family or friends when they step out of line than strangers. For the same reason my mum once slapped me when I got into a fight instead of standing behind me, because she was disappointed I would debase myself and fight with someone.

IloveMoney:
Talking about cohesion, this also tells you why once igbos give you their support on any political journey, you can go and sleep with your two eyes closed because you will be rest assured that they will not betray you and you will get block votes from the east. it was same with Abiola, Obasanjo, and Jonathan. Unlike the west where their votes is always divided, which tells about their unity and sincerity and why you cannot trust them in any political engagement. They are not reliable.

Yeah, we saw that when runaway ojucrook came back to contest for the people he fought for to save from being suyanised by housa Fulani masters.

Obi1kenobi:
Igbos are resented not because of jealousy, but because of this kind of boastful arrogance. Yorubas are the most accomplished tribe in Nigeria, but they don't attract the resentment Igbos do. For me, one major reason is they don't travel around as much, so they don't clash too much with host communities like Igbos, but also in my opinion, one of the reasons for this is they are more respectful of other groups and carry themselves with less brashness and arrogance than a lot of Igbo people do.

And you want Nairalanders to believe you are Igbo...


Pure yoruba..boy

What you dont understand is dat we Igbos dat grew up in lagos before moving to the east purely recognize the difference in writing style of someone who live in d east and someone who live in d west...

D sentence construction is purely different because we tend to speak according to our first language (d same way a yoruba will know wen an Igbo man is speaking yoruba)


Just quit deceiving in ur ignorance