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| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Rossikki: 2:38pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
DopeTwelve:The guy is a complete jerk. He's actually a foreigner planted here by God knows whom. His ONLY job on this site is to trash black Africans and dismiss all evidence that Africans had civilization before the whites arrived. He's never read a history book in his life. And he makes vicious racist insults against Africans, using phrases like ''black mud hut dwelling niggas'', while using terms like ''we'', and ''us'', 'efulefu' etc to make it seem he's one of us. He's not. His words drip with total contempt for his supposed ''ancestors''. THAT'S how you can tell he's a foreigner. Oh, and the use of ''Obi1kenobi'' - that's what a typical white foreigner would name himself who wanted to deceptively attach to us, based on that star wars stuff, and the 'Igbo sounding' name of an actor there. Probably the only 'Igbo' name he can spell. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by CryptoCoinr(f): 2:48pm On Aug 06, 2017*. Modified: 3:25pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Ngozi123:Perhaps but it's hard to get real context from an obviously contrived list. I speak Hebrew so I know that "lion" is "ariah" but "ben gur ha-ariah shel yehudah" is used to mean "lion of the tribe of Judah" or something to that effect. It means cub, usually lion cub, but how do we know that the meaning could've been altered over time? It happens quite often with languages.Hmm, good to know. It's no "agur" like the list claimed. As for the meanings changing, we (probably) don't but we sure as hell know that there's no evidence (none that zen's willing to provide at least) that list matches up with any of the known meanings today or in the last 4 millennia. As for the name "Ada", note that it means much more than "first daughter" in Igbo, that's just the literal meaning. The fact is that it's a name in Hebrew and it's a name in Igbo.I was following the list though. And besides, "Ada" was used as a name in various languages long before Igbo came into existence. Also, I'm surprised that that dictionary didn't bring up the Hebrew word for to go up, which is "oleh" (he/you masc go up) and the Igbo word "elu" which means high. I've always found that to be interesting.It did actually, it's under "Forms and Transliterations" of "alah" (a lot similar to the Igbo word for land/ground) which appears to be the prime Hebrew word. Go here then use the "Find in Page" function to find "oleh". [img]http://image.ibb.co/bHXihF/strongs_oleh.jpg[/img] That aside, I fail to see how "oleh" is similar to "elu" in spelling or pronunciation. I also don't believe that the Hebrew that Gad spoke is the same as modern Hebrew or even some of the more recent examples of ancient Hebrew as the former is definitely influenced by German, French, Arabic, English etc whilst the latter would've likely been heavily influenced by Aramaic.Whether that is true or not, the list obviously used Biblical Hebrew (the fact that the fraud behind it mistook "Genesis" for Hebrew gives it away) which predates modern Hebrew by centuries. You're free to speculate that the Hebrew Gad spoke is different but it's speculation nonetheless. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Rossikki: 2:51pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:You are a a liar. You said Nsibidi was ''artwork', not a writing system. As for ''examples of Nsibidi literature'', that again shows your stupid addiction to western form. Does a writing script imply that you must use it for ''literature''? Can't it have other uses? Have you not read what uses have been attributed to Nsibidi, as posted above? It does not conform to how the white man used his own script, so it can't be recognised on its own merit? Brainless dunce. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by DopeTwelve: 3:07pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:And now ancient Japanese and Ancient Sumerian writing, these look like 'art', so now the Japanese and Sumerians are illerate? You would have to prove why an art-like writing system is not a writing system. Which obviously you can't without also claiming that the Japanese, Egyptians, and Sumerian are illerate.
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| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Pchidexy(m): 3:14pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
vaca1:So, you actually believe that you are a Jew? Isi mgbaka nka di kwa too much! Mental slavery! Ndo my brother. Speak for your family and kindred. I am no Jew! |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by CryptoCoinr(f): 3:15pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Whoa! What is fantastic verbal beat-down! ![]() It's funny that if I was truly Yoruba like many Igbos here like to accuse me, I'd just laugh like every other group at the "Ugandan Jews" that like claiming to be Jewish.The scar-faced images they post in response to me hoping it's an insult always leaves me laughing. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by fromnigeria(m): 3:21pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
navyseal2220:If your purpose of comin to earth is to find out you are a Jew, good luck. . Go on and became what knowing this will and lets see. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Rossikki: 4:14pm On Aug 06, 2017*. Modified: 5:14pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:DUMMY, Here is COPIOUS EVIDENCE drawn from identical cultural practices: Excerpt: 1. In Igboland a woman lives apart from her husband and does not cook for him or enter his quarters when she is on her period, she is seen as unclean . Even up till today such practices occur in some parts of Igboland especially by the traditionalists. Before a woman can enter the palace of the Obi of Onitsha , she will be asked if she is on period, if yes, she will be asked to stay out. Leviticus 15: 19-20 When a woman has her monthly period, she remains unclean, anyone who touches her or anything she has sat on becomes unclean. 2. An Igbo man’s ancestral heritage, called “Ana Obi” is not sellable, elders will not permit this. If this is somehow done due to the influence of the West the person is considered a fool and is ostracized by the community. 1 king 21:3 I inherited this vineyard from my ancestors, and the lord forbid that I should sell it, said Naboth. 3. Igbos have practiced the taking of a late brother's wife into marriage after she had been widowed until the white men came. Now it is rarely done but except in very rural villages. Deuteronomy 25:5 A widow of a dead man is not to be married outside the family; it is the duty of the dead man's brother to marry her. 4. In Igboland, there is a unique form of apprenticeship in which either a male family member or a community member will spend six(6) years (usually in their teens to their adulthood) working for another family. And on the seventh year, the head of the host household, who is usually the older man who brought the apprentice into his household, will establish (Igbo: idu) the apprentice by either setting up a business for him or giving money or tools by which to make a living. Exodus 21:2 If you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve you for six years. In the seventh year he is to be set free without having to pay you anything. 5. In Igboland , the yam is very important to the Igbo as it is their staple crop. There are celebrations such as the New yam festival (Igbo: Iri Ji) which are held for the harvesting of the yam. New Yam festival (Igbo: Iri ji) is celebrated annually to secure a good harvest of the staple crop. Those old days it is an abomination for one to eat a new harvest before the festival. It's a tradition that you give the gods of the land first as a thanks given. Deuteronomy 16:9 Count 7 weeks from the time that you begin to harvest the crops, and celebrate the harvest festival to honor the lord your God, by bringing him a freewill offering in proportion to the blessing he has given you. Celebrate in the lord's presence together with your children, servants, foreigners . Be sure that you obey my command, said the lord. 6. In Igboland it's a tradition that the male children are circumcised on the 8th day. This tradition is still practice till date. Leviticus 12:3 On the eighth day, the child shall be circumcised. 7. In Igboland, there a practice known as "ile omugwo ". After a woman has given birth to a child, a very close and experienced relative of her, in most case her mother is required by tradition to come spend time with her and her husband. In which she is to do all the work of the wife, while the new mom’s only assignment to the baby will be to breastfeed. This goes on for a month or more. In the Igbo old tradition, at this time, the new mom lives apart from her husband, would not cook or enter his quarters. Leviticus 12:1-4 For seven days after a woman gives birth, she is ritually unclean as she is during her monthly period. It will be 33 days until she is ritually clean from the loss of blood; she is not to touch anything that is holy. .......................... Mr white boy ''Obi1kenobi'', what are the odds that this is all a ''coincidence''? Do your white fathers practise the above culture? White man angry that blacks are reclaiming their heritage. Childish musings about the "lost tribes of Israel" horseshit is irrelevant to that basic premise. Post-Roman Jewry were exiled from Palestine. The Ashkenazis (who you've laughably tried to delegitimize in the past as white convertsASHKENAZI AND ALL WHITE ''JEWS' ARE JEWSH BY CONVERSION, NOT BY BLOOD, YOU DUNCE. THERE WAS NEVER A EUROPEAN, WHITE ''JEWISH'' SETTLER COMMUNITY IN THE ANCIENT MIDDLE EAST. MANY ASHKENAZI 'JEWS' CONVERTED TO JUDAISM IN THE 11TH CENTURY AD. THEY ARE RECENT CONVERTS, NOT THE ANCIENT JEWS. I POSTED IMAGES OF ANCIENT JEWS - BLACKS. SHOW US YOUR IMAGES OF YOUR ANCIENT WHITE JEWS, LET'S SEE. THAT'S A DIRECT CHALLENGE!! Below are images and artefacts dated over 2,000 years old, some showing clearly negroid Jews, with short curly hair or dreadlocks, being led into Assyrian captivity. .....................https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/30/a4/38/30a43858f8150079106621da5cd6c3ff--hebrew-bible-flat-earth.jpg .....................https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Jew-Hebrew-in-captivity.jpg .....................https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Jewlachish3chiefelderspu1.jpg ....................https://sarabe3.tripod.com/images/image042.jpg ....................https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b6/61/7d/b6617d484fa6e48f7bfccde67a2c363b--black-hebrew-israelites-in-the-bible.jpg |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Rossikki: 4:32pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi said: Childish musings about the "lost tribes of Israel" horseshit is irrelevant to that basic premise. Post-Roman Jewry were exiled from Palestine. The Ashkenazis (who you've laughably tried to delegitimize in the past as white converts''The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women, according to study published today in Nature Communications. While the Jewish religion began in the Near East, and the Ashkenazi Jews were believed to have origins in the early indigenous tribes of this region, new evidence from mitochondrial DNA, which is passed on exclusively from mother to child, suggests that female ancestors of most modern Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism in the north Mediterranean around 2,000 years ago and later in west and central Europe.'' http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/37821/title/Genetic-Roots-of-the-Ashkenazi-Jews/ OUCH... ![]() But never mind... Yahweh saw the white ''Jews'' coming. Talking to the ancient black Israelites he said: “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” Revelation 2:9 |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Nobody: 4:35pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:
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| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by StarOfDavid(m): 4:56pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Rossikki:I love this.. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Rossikki: 5:07pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
StarOfDavid:PICTURE NO DEY LIE |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:26pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
DopeTwelve:Consistently beating around the bush and failing to provide evidence of documented literature from your ancestors. And still posting the same shiit again and again and ignoring my simple request. Come back when you're prepared. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by DopeTwelve: 5:33pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:You still haven't proved why an art-like system is not a writing system, ignorant fool. Your the only one who is beating around the bush. Explain how the Egyptian art writing system is a writing system while the Igbo art writing system is not. Until then all of your claims is BS. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:37pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Rossikki:I called Nsibidi a scripting system that was "more artwork" than an actual writing system. Because that is the overwhelming documented use. That's hardly the same as saying "Nsibidi is artwork". You either have comprehension problems or you're a distorting liar. And yes, a writing script must be used in literature if that is supposed to portray literacy. Else, cavemen drawing on walls thousands of years ago were all literate. Hell, animal species that mark their territory are also portraying literacy. The UN defines literacy as the "ability to identify, understand, interpret, create, communicate and compute, using printed and written materials associated with varying contexts. Literacy involves a continuum of learning in enabling individuals to achieve their goals, to develop their knowledge and potential, and to participate fully in their community and wider society". If you think scripting systems that produced nothing of literary value are representative of "literacy", that's your problem I guess. I'll remain on the side of common sense. Keep projecting your intellectual insecurities on me. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:42pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
DopeTwelve:Because the Egyptians actually had literature - the earliest in recorded human civilization - you dumb fucckk. Everything from autobiographical texts to hymns and poems and funeral rites and scientific teaching and medical practise and engineering was codified and can still be read and interpreted even today. Do some research and allow it to percolate before spewing twaddle. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Rossikki: 5:49pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Such ignorance. Nsibidi fulfilled all the above criteria and more. 'Literary value' is subjective. It is not a foreigner like you that will tell Igbos what literary value' Nsibidi had on their culture. If you WISH to know, you humble your self, go to the elders and initiates who know the script, and ask them. The script was suppressed and forced underground, with thousands of artefacts bearing their inscriptions no doubt destroyed by the British. That the people did not have paper to print on does not mean they did not write and communicate. Olodo. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by DopeTwelve: 5:49pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Your a dumb nut to think that the Nsibidi script is unreadible, first you claim is not a writing system because it is art, now you claim it is not a writing system because it's unreadible. Make up your idiotic mind, both of your claims are false. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:52pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Rossikki:Ewu....This is the 2nd time on this thread you've posted links that actually discredit what you're trying to say and you're too dumb to discern it. ![]() Nobody has ever denied Ashkenazi Jews have intermarried with Europeans. Male ancestry is overwhelmingly of Semitic origin while female ancestry leans European. That is why they look Caucasian in the first place unlike Sephardic or Mizrahi Jews who look more like their Arab/Mediterranean cousins. What you posted is very different from your mooronic claim that Ashkenazi Jews, a clearly distinct ethno-linguistic and cultural group in Europe, were Europeans who converted to Judaism. And you're still shameless enough with no self-awareness to be spouting the mooronic claim while laughably claiming to be an authority on history. This is a bit like playing chess with a pigeon who just knocks over the pieces and shiits all over the board, while strutting around obliviously like a victor. No self-awareness. You're a comedian. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:55pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
DopeTwelve:My claims have been very clearly articulated without equivocation. If you want to pretend it's somehow inconsistent and shifting because you have no substantive response to my simple question, that's your problem. Come back when you have something a substance to say. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by DopeTwelve: 5:58pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:lol your an idiot, this picture shows Nsibidi being translated into English, if it's now 'readible' as you claim, they shouldn't be able to do this.
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| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by DopeTwelve: 6:04pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:And also more of Nsibidi script being translated hence readable
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| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 6:04pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Rossikki:A pathetic, pathetic weak effort. This nonsense: Mediterranean artworks that don't even depict what you're claiming (which also never seems to exist in Igbo land ) and tenuous cultural similarities (often made up like the linguistic similarities garbage that has repeatedly been debunked, or the comedian that claimed we celebrate Sukkot, the Sabbath and Yom Kippur) are your "copious evidence"? Try harder. A lot harder. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 6:09pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
DopeTwelve:I even tried to break things down for your fried brains to understand what literature and literacy is with the Egyptian example that you ridiculously tried to compare and it still can't percolate. So cavemen painting on the cave walls were literate? |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by PDJT: 6:11pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
-So what happened to the females in the household? Oh I see, I forgot females were not counted in those days, according to the Holy Bible. Built2last: |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by DopeTwelve: 6:13pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Literacy by definition is the ability to read and write, people were able to read and write Nsibidi, so it is literacy. You haven't proven anything. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 6:13pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Rossikki:No, it didn't. Not even close. If it did, lost sheep like you would not be pathetically attempting to appropriate the history of a Levant civilization. You might actually know a thing or 2 about your history. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by MEILYN(m): 6:14pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Rossikki:This is what we call 'Fatality'. You just sent that mad man to his grave. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by DopeTwelve: 6:21pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Yes it does." ability to identify, understand, interpret, create, communicate and compute, using printed and written materials associated with varying contexts. Literacy involves a continuum of learning in enabling individuals to achieve their goals, to develop their knowledge and potential, and to participate fully in their community and wider society" Nsbidi is used to communicate between the igbo's and to achieve goals such as understanding the person they are writing to. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Obi1kenobi(m): 6:22pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
It's also interesting that suddenly, non-availability of paper was a problem. It never seemed a problem for Jews for almost 3 millenia, but it's a problem for Igbo Jews. Clearly, when those Romans chased them out of Palestine, they forgot how to make paper: among many other things they seemingly forgot how to do. The forgot Hebrew/Aramaic texts. They forgot how to make concrete. They forgot their religion. They forgot their language. They forgot how to sail the seas. They were clearly very forgetful people. |
| Re: Jewish Scientists In Anambra To Present DNA Result To Show Igbos Are From Israel by Rossikki: 6:22pm On Aug 06, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:What 'Semitic origin' ties their men to ancient Israel? They have nothing to do with those black folks we posted. ''Dr Eran Elhaik of the University of Sheffield used a computer modelling system to convert Ashkenazi Jewish DNA - the Jewish communities historically located in Europe - data into geographical information, which revealed that 90 percent of Ashkenazi Jews descend from the Greeks, Iranians and others who colonised northern Anatolia (now northern Turkey) more than 2,000 years ago before CONVERTING to Judaism. Dr Elhaik said he believed that that three still-surviving Turkish villages – Iskenaz, Eskenaz and Ashanaz – located in north-eastern Turkey made up part of the original Ashkenazi homeland and formed the nucleus that developed the modern Jewish language of Yiddish.'' http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/most-jews-descended-ancient-turkey-new-study-2107639949 OUCH! ![]() You see, wherever you read that a people ''converted to Judaism'', you KNOW they are not the original Jews. See the guys below? These were the original Jews. Black men. They did not need to ''convert'' to Judaism. They were Judaism itself. .........................https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Jewlachish3chiefelderspu1.jpg |
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Perhaps, read your own link again. Then also come back and show me examples of Nsibidi literature. I'll wait.
Arondizuogu.