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Pierocash:
Bro stop been misled by the devil,Bishop himself pays tithe
Luke 11:42 (New Living Translation), Mathew 23:23
Study the above scriptures from New Living Translation for better understanding.

I think I will rather ignore you Bishop and your Devil.
Better start writing a Bible that will state that Jesus Paul, Peter and the disciples took money in the name of tithes to Church and got the same from the converts. The Bible we have now has no instructions on Christians giving tithe much less payment (money) of tithes.

In this your new Bible, include statements like
"only Christian tithers are entitled to Blessings"
"Christian Non-tithers will have mouth odour"
"Christian Non-tithers will be tight"
"Christian Non-tithers will be opened to invasion from gates of Hell"
And other manipulative statements false gospel merchants are known for.
As for Oyedepo, I don't believe he is a man of God in the first place. And for your information, no man in errors is above reproof and correction here on earth.
Matt 23 and Luke 11 this gang misquote and allude to Christian payment of tithe was not addressed to Christians. It was actually Jesus mocking the religiosity of the Pharisees who by the way, gave tithes of farm produce as instructed in their Jewish law.

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

In the last days false churches will spring forth. Just ignore him and work out your salvation, by the way why is this posted in this section

babythug:
While I agree that some churches have abused the concept of tithes and offerings, i still don't get the logic in a church not accepting it. For one where will the finds to run the church come from? Even the goal of this church which is to help the needy where will the funds be sourced from? There is something odd about the whole thing. I suspect members will be pressured to give in other forms and will end up donating more than tithes and offerings

Exactly

peeps4u:
For those saying tithe is different from alms and tithe is what is given to the church, can you establish this with biblical references?
Tithe was enacted through levitical and aronical laws, these laws and other practices, like sacrifices with animals, were aborted through the coming and death of Jesus Christ.

Go and read Hebrews, probably from chapter 7, if you have no time to read from the beginning.

Tithes, like using rams for sacrifices, were old time practices which have been terminated by Jesus and shouldn't exist in our churches anymore.

As for the claims that God blesses when you pay tithe, it is all frictitious, God blesses today without your tithes, if he doesn't, why are tithers not the richest? why are muslims and atheists who don't pay tithes blessed? God doesn't need your tithes before he blesses you.

Your tithes go to your pastors and not to God, that is why your pastors are mostly the richest in their respective churches; they collect one-tenths form each member while each member manages with the rest nine-tenths. Most Pastors grow richer than members while the members aren't at par with them, not because God blesses the pastors more but because pastors keep getting their one-tenths every month, this is different from special offerings.

Same pastors pay tithe too if you don't know.

I wonder why this post is here in the first place

asuustrike2009:
Same pastors pay tithe too if you don't know.

He pays tithes to his own church and collects from other members, right?

Read Hebrews , chapters 7 and 8. the two chapters tell you the levitical laws of tithe was obsolete (Heb 8:6-7, 13).
I want to base my arguement here on bibles, can you?

Devil has no capacity to bless, he only curses.Do not equate material riches to blessing,that sombebody is wealthy does not mean he is blessed.The blessings of God is far beyond money and that is what tithing offers.So do not limit blessing to worldy riches.

AgentGoat:
its devil that bless dangote and buhari?

Pierocash:
Devil has no capacity to bless, he only curses.Do not equate material riches to blessing,that sombebody is wealthy does not mean he is blessed.The blessings of God is far beyond money and that is what tithing offers.So do not limit blessing to worldy riches.

Tell us what blessings of God 'tithers' enjoy that Dangote or other non-tithers don't enjoy.

Tithers die, non-tithers die, tithers involve in accident, non-tithers do same. What other blessings do tithers enjoy above the rich non-tithers?

We are here to educate ourselves
Thanks.

peeps4u:
He pays tithes to his own church and collects from other members, right?

Read Hebrews , chapters 7 and 8. the two chapters tell you the levitical laws of tithe was obsolete (Heb 8:6-7, 13).
I want to base my arguement here on bibles, can you?

If the levitical laws are obsolete as acclaimed by you using a biblical verse, is the 10 commandments obsolete too?

Topgainer:
I think I will rather ignore you Bishop and your Devil.
Better start writing a Bible that will state that Jesus Paul, Peter and the disciples took money in the name of tithes to Church and got the same from the converts. The Bible we have now has no instructions on Christians giving tithe much less payment (money) of tithes.

In this your new Bible, include statements like
"only Christian tithers are entitled to Blessings"
"Christian Non-tithers will have mouth odour"
"Christian Non-tithers will be tight"
"Christian Non-tithers will be opened to invasion from gates of Hell"
And other manipulative statements false gospel merchants are known for. [/iWhat sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.As for Oyedepo, I don't believe he is a man of God in the first place. And for your information, no man in errors is above reproof and correction here on earth.
Matt 23 and Luke 11 this gang misquote and allude to Christian payment of tithe was not addressed to Christians. [i] It was actually Jesus mocking the religiosity of the Pharisees who by the way, gave tithes of farm produce as instructed in their Jewish law.

u need help,Jesus was mocking them?did u read the last sentence of that luke 11:42?
I am only trying to counter ur Deception to others,i am not trying to convince u because u have already made up ur mind to go against men of God.Jesus was admonishing them not to pay only tithe and discard the major commandment of Love and mercy,but 'yes pay tithe, bt do not neglect love and mercy'. That is what Christ was telling them
On whether u believe Oyedepo as a man of God is left for u,it is ur right to believe whatever u want,u go can't do anything against the truth bt for the truth.bt i advise u,stop castigating the prophets

Bro u don't knw what most are going thru until they tell u.Have u heard abt the word 'the rich also cry?is it written on their fore head that they are crying?but it is only the blessings of the Lord that maketh rich and adds no sorrow with it (Proverbs 10:22)On whether Dangote is enjoying what or not i do not knw neither do u.Do not judge a book by its cover

peeps4u:
Tell us what blessings of God 'tithers' enjoy that Dangote or other non-tithers don't enjoy.

Tithers die, non-tithers die, tithers involve in accident, non-tithers do same. What other blessings do tithers enjoy above the rich non-tithers?

We are here to educate ourselves
Thanks.

Pierocash:
Bro u don't knw what most are going thru until they tell u.Have u heard abt the word 'the rich also cry?is it written on their fore head that they are crying?but it is only the blessings of the Lord that maketh rich and adds no sorrow with it (Proverbs 10:22)On whether Dangote is enjoying what or not i do not knw neither do u.Do not judge a book by its cover

Do you also know what tithers also go through?
I also stated that tithers fall sick just like non-tithers, tithers die in accident just like non-tithers. People experience tragedies, whether they are tithers or not. There are tithers who were poor and still died at young age but here we have non-tithers Dangote, Bill gates and the rest who are rich and still alive.
So what are the special blessings tithers enjoy above non-tithers?

Yes.... We shall soon catch oyedipo next

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

Keep ur tithing opinion to ur sef.......we all knw d truth, nobody cn deceive us, u giv because u bliv it, someone esle does nt giv tithe because he does nt bliv in it...both f u re right.....bt mind ur bis,

Statsocial:
Abraham tithed before the old testament

*Not all parts of the section Old testament represents the Old covenant of Moses. Prior to the law given by God Abraham and Isaac had paid tithe.

Now to address the post. There I a difference between Alms and Tithe. The Alm is what u gi ve to the poor and tithe what you give to church. Never mix it together. You may not understand the full extent to denying the church funds until it happens. If everyone chooses to give their tithe to the poor the Christian order and power would crash.

I was blessed today by TD jakes message and that only happened because some christian somewhere choose to support his ministry with funds which in turn gave him d opportunity to minister to me here in Nigeria. Those Christians may not know me but I am blessed by their sacrifice.

Tithe s wat u giv to d church? Am shocked ....where there churches in d old testament? Tke ur time to study d bible, start frm sunday school classes

Pierocash:
End time church.This is a satanic church

Hmmm...i have strong belief they are occultic. How can you grossly disobey God's word on tithe and offerings Most people are poor in the church because they don't give generous offerings or pay tithe.
This church could be set up to steal members' glorys! God forbid.

khristal87:
Keep ur tithing opinion to ur sef.......we all knw d truth, nobody cn deceive us, u giv because u bliv it, someone esle does nt giv tithe because he does nt bliv in it...both f u re right.....bt mind ur bis,

bro dnt be deceived, tithing is not a personal believe or personal opinion, it is a scriptural commandment.
Am i the one that wrote Malacai 3:10? Some religeous perverts say it old testament, is Luke 11:42 and Mathew 23:23 old testament? The earlier u realise that prosperity is nt procured on the alter of Prayer but by covenant practice,the better for u.Any church or individual who tells u to go against scriptural injuctions that it is a personal thing is ur greatest enemy of progress.Contest it Frm nw til 2mrw, Geness 8:22 cannot be broken

peeps4u:
Do you also know what tithers also go through?
I also stated that tithers fall sick just like non-tithers, tithers die in accident just like non-tithers. People experience tragedies, whether they are tithers or not. There are tithers who were poor and still died at young age but here we have non-tithers Dangote, Bill gates and the rest who are rich and still alive.
So what are the special blessings tithers enjoy above non-tithers?

The rain that falls on the tither is the same rain that falls on non tither, that is the same battle faces each an everyone ,bt the difference is ,the battle that Kills one is the same battle that enthrones another.
On the issue of tithers dying at young age is a story for another day.But let me let u knw that there is a way to pay tithe,80% of those claiming to pay tithe dont pay it correctly that is why it looks as if it works for one and doesn't work for another making God look like a liar. Go and educate urself spiritually so will understand what we are talking here.not everyone that goes to school graduate,not all that graduate are gainfully employed,same with scriptural laws

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion. No non tither can be blessed. argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

Romans 9:15 - For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."

You can't tell God who to bless. Do your own and face your front. Tithing is good, seed time and harvest time also remains but destiny is another factor so don't wait for anyone to be poor because they don't tithe. You may end up watching them become a billionaire. God also hates pride. So because you pay tithe should not make you proud and judgmental. Above all, Jesus (who we should emulate) did not go around condemning people and spreading message of doom but rather taught with encouragement, compassion, love and sharing. Instead of condemning your brother for not tithing, why not invite them to lunch, pay for it, ask how they are doing, be interested in their life, ask them how they are handling a challenge they may be going through and then share part of your testimony? They will be more receptive to what you're saying. They will want to find out about this Jesus that has transformed you and want to experience the love and peace you have found in Christ. Any church that is collecting money from you with condemnation and fear tactics is not following the example of Jesus Christ. Be blessed.

No mind that Brainless Ediot, this church is the first of it's kind , and yes it'll solve a lot of problems if other members can give anonymously
and it is not a scam to trick people to become members

I'll still go to my church but if i have time, i'll go see first hand the doctrine of the church

sarrki:
My people perished coz of lack of knowledge

Malachi 3:10 is old testament

I wonder why we no longer sacrifice doves any more yet we keep paying tithe. Christian deceiving themselves. Thieves

Tithe is biblical. There's no way around it.be that as it may, it's never a bad idea to give to the poor. I'd like to be a member of this church.at least, my school fees would be paid

Yes,truly this is end time.
Can you imagine these patoreneus,claiming MOG at the expense of the gullibles.

Kondomatic:
Show me where people paid tithe in the new testament please

Read Mathew 23:23 sir you'll get something there

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I Kukuma gbadun the church!

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kennydee05:
I still like my Church where payment of Tithe and offering are acceptable.

Nobody is asking if you like your tithe paying church or not.
Fu cking donut!

My people perish because the love of money and material thingz

Statsocial:
Abraham tithed before the old testament

*Not all parts of the section Old testament represents the Old covenant of Moses. Prior to the law given by God Abraham and Isaac had paid tithe.

Now to address the post. There I a difference between Alms and Tithe. The Alm is what u gi ve to the poor and tithe what you give to church. Never mix it together. You may not understand the full extent to denying the church funds until it happens. If everyone chooses to give their tithe to the poor the Christian order and power would crash.

I was blessed today by TD jakes message and that only happened because some christian somewhere choose to support his ministry with funds which in turn gave him d opportunity to minister to me here in Nigeria. Those Christians may not know me but I am blessed by their sacrifice.

TD Jakes will be live and direct at House On The Rock Church Lagos from 23rd-27th August 2017 for Spirit Life Conference. Plan to be there