Illuminate

sarrki:

You must be a worker or benefitting from the tithe

Read Matthew 23 vs 23. When u are done, come back let me explain to u.

Pierocash:
End time church.This is a satanic church

You dey mind dis story teller. If their pastors are in rags they would be the first to complain that the man cant take care of himself. Please look around youq church,your building,instruments and payment of church staff etc that is what your church sustains itself on. Lets see how long dis game would go on

sarrki:


My people perished coz of lack of knowledge

Malachi 3:10 is old testament

It's funny when folks use that line. The pastor quoted

Deuteronomy 15:7- 11 and Proverbs 14: 31.”

I guess they are new testament right

Pierocash:
End time church.This is a satanic church

How you take know

sarrki:


My people perished coz of lack of knowledge

Malachi 3:10 is old testament

Abraham paid tithe in New Testament


Hebrews Chapter 7
1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

Jesus accept offering from a poor widow in New Testament

Mark 12:42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.

43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:

sarrki:


My people perished coz of lack of knowledge

Malachi 3:10 is old testament

LOL

paschu:
Abraham's payment of tithe was recorded once in the entire old testament. This implies that he paid his tithe voluntarily and by God's leading - just like when he sacrificed Isaac. It was not compulsory. Tithe did not become compulsory until the conquest of Canaan and the formal institutionalization of the Levitical Order and Aaronic Priesthood.

This Levitical Order coupled with the Aaronic Priesthood, was put aside by the death and resurrection of Christ. So there is no more need for daily burnt offerings and animal sacrifices. No more need for the PROFESSIONAL priesthood. This is actually why Paul said that he would rather die working with his hands than depend solely on the Church for survival.

Thus I found it curious when you claimed that Tithe is meant for the Church. Can you please prove that assertion scripturally without going out of context?

Please note that I am not in anyway asking anyone to stop paying tithe. But please take this from me, and write it down somewhere. What the Pastor in the OP is doing is the future of the church. That is the ONLY WAY the Church can survive the coming global Anti-Christ movement and large scale uprising against ALL FORMS OF ORGANIZED RELIGION.

The KIND OF PRACTICAL SACRIFICIAL LOVE which this Pastor is proclaiming now is the Church's LONE ticket to survival in the coming years. And you can take that to the Bank.

One more thing: The Pastor made a profound statement when he said that he cannot teach people that they have to bring money to church BEFORE God can bless them.

Friend that's the root of the matter. The idea that you have to STRUGGLE to EARN God's blessings for yourself is the biggest favor the Church is doing the anti-Christ spirit. As times goes on, Science and humanistic advancement in knowledge will make most of these things easily accessible to ALL with little or zero efforts. This commonalization of the so called blessings will make the current teachings of the Organized Church lose its present appeal. In fact this is already happening. And this is what the anti-Christ will capitalize on. The only counter we have is the message of PRACTICAL LOVE (which the OP is proclaiming) and making sure that the Church people start using their minds and embracing real education.

Again, the only thing that will prevent the rich, weak or poor church members from embracing the lure of anti-Christ is a timely eradication of the spirit of Selfishness (which is the root of greed and every other evil) and prompt enthronement of the CULTURE OF PRACTICAL LOVE - just as the first disciples did. This is why Jesus said that the only way the world would know that He is with us is when we love each other the way he had loved us and died for us while we were still sinners.

The Church of the end time will congregate in tiny circles of influences at homes, work/market places and in the streets. It's not going to be at the cathedrals and huge auditoriums as usual.

Professional priesthood is already loosing credibility, soon it will lose influence.

Now there is a man with some sense!!!!
Professional priesthood n d culture of fear of future/demons/blessings baiting has lost its appeal to me....as far as am concerned.. Its influence its dead!!! People don't even attend church where I am now...we are fvcking tired of churchy bullshiiit!!

Finally!! A Church that is ready to follow the footsteps of JESUS CHRIST! May Godbless and lead them. Amen

My own view is that people who dont pay tithe will still make it to heaven... Jesus and his disciples did not stress it as a criterion to make it to eternity..Charity is the criteria

today is not Sunday and this kind story just burst in.

anyway me I no de go church na my ROO. I de do my church every Sunday. but as I hear say no tithe for this church i relocatin to abuja.I Wang the house n cars as well.praise God better de come.

som pastor WL say put all ur wallet God go shower all the blessing on u.
tufiakwa end tym pastor dem.

de wll tell u say let ur wife come for o e week fastin in. my house.God WL give her pregnancy.

they will bleep her till day break.

som pastor are just funny i no for laugh
this is naija fake ppl de.

Pierocash:
u need help,Jesus was mocking them?did u read the last sentence of that luke 11:42?
I am only trying to counter ur Deception to others,i am not trying to convince u because u have already made up ur mind to go against men of God.Jesus was admonishing them not to pay only tithe and discard the major commandment of Love and mercy,but 'yes pay tithe, bt do not neglect love and mercy'. That is what Christ was telling them
On whether u believe Oyedepo as a man of God is left for u,it is ur right to believe whatever u want,u go can't do anything against the truth bt for the truth.bt i advise u,stop castigating the prophets

Plz I want you to give me reference(s) from the new testament where Jesus or early disciples collected tithe...and plz dont border me with quote from Malachi, I beg of you...how can you tell me something as important as tithe is almost missing in the new testament.

I Swear I Get Seat For That Church Front Row On Sunday.

Kondomatic:
Show me where people paid tithe in the new testament please

Read matthew 23 vs 23

Ystdy this beggar kid jept bugging me
By the time i left and got what i want crom the market
I searched for him and gave him some small tin
I felt bad that a kid of abt 5 to 6 ys beggin on the road
Life is so fuckin hard

Kondomatic:
Show me where people paid tithe in the new testament please

Bro tread small small, all is bible both old and new testament, none can be disregard/neglected. I am not saying it is compulsory or not compulsory but it just the understanding of the WORD.

[quote author=Kondomatic post=59285963]No non tither can be blessed? Dangote, Buhari, etc paid tithe to you? Be reasonable please [/quote

what makes u think that they dont pay tithe. Are u theri PA?

Let's watch and see what happens in the nearest future.

All this tithers make me confused. I keep asking them where n when did Jesus Christ Himself, our Lord n Saviour pay tithe. Let someone just show me.

No idiot should quote me without showing me where I have asked 4.

peeps4u:


He pays tithes to his own church and collects from other members, right?

Read Hebrews , chapters 7 and 8. the two chapters tell you the levitical laws of tithe was obsolete (Heb 8:6-7, 13).
I want to base my arguement here on bibles, can you?

Hope you know what you ate quoting?.

HB 7:2 Abraham paid tithe.

Jesus Himself accepted offering from a poor widow.

Mark 12:42 42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.

43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:

paschu:
Abraham's payment of tithe was recorded once in the entire old testament. This implies that he paid his tithe voluntarily and by God's leading - just like when he sacrificed Isaac. It was not compulsory. Tithe did not become compulsory until the conquest of Canaan and the formal institutionalization of the Levitical Order and Aaronic Priesthood.

This Levitical Order coupled with the Aaronic Priesthood, was put aside by the death and resurrection of Christ. So there is no more need for daily burnt offerings and animal sacrifices. No more need for the PROFESSIONAL priesthood. This is actually why Paul said that he would rather die working with his hands than depend solely on the Church for survival.

Thus I found it curious when you claimed that Tithe is meant for the Church. Can you please prove that assertion scripturally without going out of context?

Please note that I am not in anyway asking anyone to stop paying tithe. But please take this from me, and write it down somewhere. What the Pastor in the OP is doing is the future of the church. That is the ONLY WAY the Church can survive the coming global Anti-Christ movement and large scale uprising against ALL FORMS OF ORGANIZED RELIGION.

The KIND OF PRACTICAL SACRIFICIAL LOVE which this Pastor is proclaiming now is the Church's LONE ticket to survival in the coming years. And you can take that to the Bank.

One more thing: The Pastor made a profound statement when he said that he cannot teach people that they have to bring money to church BEFORE God can bless them.

Friend that's the root of the matter. The idea that you have to STRUGGLE to EARN God's blessings for yourself is the biggest favor the Church is doing the anti-Christ spirit. As times goes on, Science and humanistic advancement in knowledge will make most of these things easily accessible to ALL with little or zero efforts. This commonalization of the so called blessings will make the current teachings of the Organized Church lose its present appeal. In fact this is already happening. And this is what the anti-Christ will capitalize on. The only counter we have is the message of PRACTICAL LOVE (which the OP is proclaiming) and making sure that the Church people start using their minds and embracing real education.

Again, the only thing that will prevent the rich, weak or poor church members from embracing the lure of anti-Christ is a timely eradication of the spirit of Selfishness (which is the root of greed and every other evil) and prompt enthronement of the CULTURE OF PRACTICAL LOVE - just as the first disciples did. This is why Jesus said that the only way the world would know that He is with us is when we love each other the way he had loved us and died for us while we were still sinners.

The Church of the end time will congregate in tiny circles of influences at homes, work/market places and in the streets. It's not going to be at the cathedrals and huge auditoriums as usual.

Professional priesthood is already loosing credibility, soon it will lose influence.

Well said. Thumbs up

positivelord:


Plz I want you to give me reference(s) from the new testament where Jesus or early disciples collected tithe...and plz dont border me with quote from Malachi, I beg of you...how can you tell me something as important as tithe is almost missing in the new testament.

And Please Help Me Ask Him, Why Is It That It Is Only Tithe And Offering New Mellinium Churches Can Take From The Old Testament And When You Ask Them About Other Things In The Old Testament, They Will Say It Is Not Too Relevant Because It Is The Period Of The Law, But The Tithe And Offering Is Not Part Of It.

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

Oga, the richest man in Africa is not paying tithe yet God has continued to bless him or is his God more powerful than yours?

Jesus wept because of the ignorance of men. Luke 19.









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Pierocash:
End time church.This is a satanic church

Because they refuse to collect tithe.end time comment

That is not a church of God. Offertory and tithe are biblical injunctions. Abuse by some pastors does not cancel the need for which God made the injunction.

Jesus Paid Tax Not Tithe, You Pay Tithe And Don't Pay Tax, Bros, You Check Am Naaah !!! Letter You Go Say You Be ''Christ Like''

So Buhari and Co belongs to a cult because they are rich.... Plz enough of your gibberish

Pierocash:
that is how Devil deceive ppl. Bro there are 2 kingdoms that exist. God's Kingdom, and satanic Kingdom. They both operate on spiritual laws, they are guided by principles either scriptural or demonic principles.
On whether Buhari and Dangote pay tithe?I will tell u Yes! U dont knw the Kingdom these guys belong to,occult men pay their tithe to their kingdoms ,infact they pay higher and burdensome tithe because the devil has no mercy,if u violate his own laws u face the wrath instantly.Bt God is merciful, he keeps showing luv to those that are stil violating the scripture, bt there is a limit to mercy.
I advice u today ,to start tithing frm today cos that is whr ur fortune is tied to.Stop using occult men as ur standard of living because they also pay their dues to their kingdom

Do you know how much Tithe Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos paid to get so wealthy?

Pierocash:
One JW spotted. Evn in the days of christ ppl pay tithe.Any church misleading u to go contrary to the bible is satanic

Keep on telling yourself that. Just maaybe, you will sleep well at night

Bring ye all the thithes..... That there may be food in My House.
The tithe is for food in God's house so the Priests, Windows, Orphans and Strangers(Needy) can have food.
There's nothing wrong with what the pastor is doing.
Don't leave the weightier matter of the law and chase the smaller ones.