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| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Nigeriadondie: 2:25pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
otr1:The guy comment tire me. Really as u said his own opinion. Some people blindly try to defend what cannot be defended |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Nigeriadondie: 2:28pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
AwesomeDuru:If I may ask, are u an atheist? |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by talebearer123: 2:30pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
otr1:Well I got this notion from the fact thst i know satan dont know my thoughts as a child of God untill i say it out. How do i know it I havent come across where it is written " And satan haven known what they think in there hearts" but rather " and Jesus knoeing what they think in their hearts" The heart of man belongs to God and he alone has access to it. Now speaking in tongues is from the heart also and its not untlll I say my intention with the tongue of man that satan understands me. Now who says Satan posseses all his angelic powers also. He was releaved of some powers when he fell same reason why every Christian is not under his control and touch anymore except we fall. Same reason he can not ascend back to the kingdom of God like any other holy angel. He lost some powers after the fall and understanding the mind of God is part of it. Speaking in tongues is speaking the mind of God to your life issues. Its a mystery satan has no more inheritance in. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 2:32pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie:yes, that's the height to confusion. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by TheEminentLaity: 2:44pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Sundays are the days where the loonies come out Modern Christianity really brings out the stupid in people |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Adageorge(f): 2:53pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
AwesomeDuru:I understand u but they didn't ask u to comment bokoharam |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Phony200(m): 3:02pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Trash. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by uchemelvin20004: 3:11pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
When the disciples spoke in tongues the people heard them in their own languages,the spirit gave them that ability to enable them communicate with the people. The gibberish being spoken today in churches who understands it? If it's spiritual why do they learn how to speak it in theology schools? |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 3:12pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Interesting |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by bentuzene(m): 3:23pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie:Was about to comment till I read your post... May God bless you for this light! Speaking in tongues is a GIFT of the spirit not a FRUIT of the spirit. Some Christians can have it while others can not. Yes it is for edification but just like every other gift, not everybody has it. But the fruits of the spirit: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Gentleness, Self-Control and Faithfulness must be present in anyone that claims to be born of the spirit because without them there is division in the Church. I have a lot of Gifts as a Christian and yes I understand Tongues but cant easily speak them all (Which is you read Paul's text on this Gift it has the part of Speaking and Interpreting mind you) but these gifts I have are for ministry. What really keeps me up as a Christian aren't the Gifts but the FRUITS which the Spirit Imparts at its entry into your life. PS. Even non believers have Gifts and they use it for other things! |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by bentuzene(m): 3:30pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
ehimeayeni:What are you saying for God's sake? Was the gift not for Edification? So that the Church could grow? Did you read your Bible at all or do you just go to Church? A Tongue is a language someone must Understand and please mark the MUST! 1 Corinthians 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. Else 1 Corinthians 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. Sometimes modern day Christians just do things and justify it with the name of Jesus! And we say Religion is the problem! |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by bentuzene(m): 3:32pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
seXytOhbAd:Say it again please... Christians these days put the Cart before the horse too much! Where are your fruits ![]() |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by bentuzene(m): 3:37pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Even if you were to speak in a language only God would understand, you have to understand it too... Our God is no author of Confusion mind you! |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by solepager(m): 3:40pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie:meeting attendance is good. Anyone is free to attend and learn about Jehovah. But what identifies one of Jehovah's witnesses is what is laid down in acts 20:20. Besides you need to take the first step by getting baptized. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by waldigit: 4:26pm On Aug 13, 2017*. Modified: 10:22pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie:So your conclusion is that tongue speaking is no more relevant today because the whole world now speak the same language or pardon me we now have Goole translator? You are very funny. Very soon Jesus himself will no longer be needed because we shall soon have modern Messiah (the Antichrist) and next is God because he too old fashioned and have modern guy with nice swagger( Devil) I think I know where you are coming from and where you are going. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Maximus85(m): 4:37pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Skillz92:LOL, which tongues pls. Are you talking about speaking in real different languages that people can understand like those in the Pentecost 33CE or that gibberish you guys say today? |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by waldigit: 4:41pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Skillz92:As a believer, you a warrior for life. You engage in a spiritual warfare especially when you pray. The success of every battle depends on good intelligence encryption system. Holy Spirit coordinates this communications coding and decoding to beat enemy. During the time of Daniel the demons in charge of his province stopped his answer because they have access to his intelligence. That is the edge we have today with Holy Spirit with us. Many today don't know knowledge of God have been prophesied that will be widespread and can no longer be caged in any theological cult or college. This why they oppose teaching such speaking in diverse of tongues. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by waldigit: 5:05pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
The facts with many who profess christian faith today is that you want to put cart before the horse. You want to understand the scripture by not following the process. The Lord himself got baptised with immersion when He was mature, but you want to yours at infant. Then He got baptised with Holy Ghost you want to skip the step. He went on to receive power by fasting and praying you again skipped the stage because we now have Google. The Lord identified his ministry and fulfilled it, you say your local assembly that you erroneously refer to as "the Church" has doctrine that you must follow. The Lord Himself when reading the scripture in the public said the spirit of the Lord is upon me, but you say I got it from religious websites. You want to understand the scriptures without evidence of baptism of Holy Spirit. Cart before horse, it doesn't work that way.Shalom |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by uvalued(m): 6:20pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
otr1:no need for confusion my friend...on the deutoronomy stuff.. what was the end result..was it for edification or what? but praying/speaking in tongues edifies and builds me up spiritually. furthermore how can merely speaking a language edify and build me up? It must be something beyond mere language. infact check the greek word for "new tongues" which Christ said in mk 16. marvellous, before vs 18, in v2 paul said that what he spoke more than them all cannot be understood by NO BODY but God because paul was speaking mysteries. granted one can speak in tongues to preach the gospel but speaking in tongues one can edify and build one self spiritually. now remember somethings of God are intelligently known but there things which are unintelligent to the human mind and speaking in tongues is one of such. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by uvalued(m): 6:25pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
bentuzene:in congregation yes if there is no interpretation he should be silent but in my privacy i can speak in tongue to my satisfaction like 1 to 2 hrs |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by jaszplus12(m): 6:56pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
ehimeayeni:pls kindly read the bible in acts 2 you will find that this tongues mean other languages of men. nowhere in the bible does anyone speak in any tongue that's called "heavenly " and that's not a human dialect. pls do your research objectively. thanks. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Gabbyelep: 6:58pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie:Well, I will accept your analysis of the importance of tongues in the early church towards reaching the unreached who were alienated because of language barrier. That is an awesome explanation. But looking at your comment to support the fact tongue is obsolete, I instead prefer to differ. Speaking in tongues has no dispensation. It all started at the tower of Babel through the days of Christ and to this day. Whereas God gave tongues at Babel to disunite an ill intended united people, God is rather giving us tongues in the present to unite a disunited generation as seen by the testimony of the number of folks who were united with the apostles in the day of Pentecost. That hasn't change and is still a mercenary for uniting a divided world today until the world is united in one purpose at the last day. What I mean is that, until heaven and earth passes away, tongues will never be obsolete. When you talk about the Bible being written in many languages of the world, I want to say that the world has over 3000 languages and 800 languages covered by the JW as mentioned in your explanation is no way half the number of languages in the world. Just ask yourself, how many languages are in your state and how many of them has Bible in their local languages. As an Orthodox Christian who has received and being led by the spirit, I disagree with you on the note that tongues are obsolete. NO NO NO |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by SOFTENGR: 7:05pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
otr1:That's the point! I understand this also when I read Acts Chapter 2. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by idom101: 8:11pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
AwesomeDuru:Foooooool |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by totorimi: 8:58pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
We must distinguish between speaking in tongues and the cacophony of noises we hear every day in the name of praying. I believe one can hear God in the quietness of their heart and not in the discordant sounds everywhere. Even our Lord when HE prayed HE separated Himself from the crowd and went to quiet place. Even the apostles speaking in tongue was a thing that was recorded that happened once on the day of Pentecost but our people I dont get it. They even speak in tongues in their music. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Investnow2017: 9:29pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
waldigit:Its a pity you did not understand him because you closed up your mind. He made the irrefutable point. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by sunkieisland(m): 9:44pm On Aug 13, 2017*. Modified: 10:39am On Aug 14, 2017 |
a lot of the comments I have read so far shows that most commentators here are "nepios" If you don't have a spirit-inspired opinion, its better to keep quiet and avoid blasphemy. I read someone confusing Speaking in Tongues and Praying in Tongues. when you pray in Tongues, the bible records that your understanding is unfruitful. but I see lots of people casting aspersions on BLW members over tongues. God forgive you and those blaspheming Him, ............ I pray you see the light one day. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by oluphilip2008(f): 10:01pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
[quote author=Nigeriadondie post=59421045] Tongues speaking was a gift of d holy spirit which enabled early christians back then to preach in a language(tongue) other than their own.Before the birth of christianity, God had a covenant relationship with man but that was to change as the old Law was to be replaced with the new law enacted by d blood of Jesus and henwas no longer dealing with humans on d basis of the old law but thru d newly formed christian congregation after Christ's death and ressurection. To convince many that the congregation had His backing, he uses gifts of d spirit such as tongues- 1 Corinthians 14:22. The gift of speaking served another purpose. During the time of Jesus there was no printing and broadcasting to relay messages to a mass audience as we ve now. Also, there was d issue of language barrier which wud hamper d spread of d gospel of God's will and purpose. To overcome these challenges, tongues speaking filled that need. Please open ur Bible to read Acts 2:1-11 but with emphasis on verses 6-11 where you wud observe that the tongues spoken where in d real sense of it real languages that were understood by other people who spoke the language not some senseless and meaningless words spoken by ALL tongues speaking pentecostal churches. That way, people cud hear the message of God in their own native language. If u read Acts2:41 u would see that d result of tongues speaking was the 3,000 converts who would now carry witj them to whereever they went the message of goodnews or gospel fulfilling what Christ said in Acts1:8 and what Paul said in Colossians 1:23. Again, lets examine tongue speaking in the time of early christians and the ones of our time which for me is mere rambling of meaningless words which is tantamount to noise which I recall in my High school class is an unpleasant noise. Read 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 and 27-31 with emphasis on verse 30. Read also 1 Corinthians 14:5-33,40 but lay emphasis on 5,11,12,13,19,26-28,31,33,40. You would realise that when tongues are spoken then it must be interpreted. If no interpretation the tongue speaker has achieved nothing. Also in verse 31, people cant speak in tongues simultaneously (at the same time) it would make d place rowdy/noisy/disorderly/chaotic as the gathering of barbarians. And the God true christians worship is a God or order as verse 33 shows and so christians must worship God in an orderly manner as verse 40 shows. Not the simultaneous noise making of all in the pentecostal churches we see today, people rambling making noise uttering words they nor their listeners understand and as such cannot interpret what the blabbed which is required. Now in our time, we ve a well developed printing and broadcasting technology that has overcome the language barrier. The spread of d goodnews is no longer impeded by language barrier as the Bible is now printed in all the living languages spoken today. We even have d Braille for the blind and some bibles have sign language for d deaf. Beinh an ardent admirer of Jehovah's Witnesses the have their publications in about 800 languanges and have a mobile application called "JW LIBRARY" in about 800 languages. If u doubt me u can download it and u wud be amazed at its unique features. Even their website www.jw.org is in many languages as well so making tongues speaking obsolete. Also , they ve many missionaries who ve taken up the challenge of leaening bew languages so they could reach people who speak that language with d gospel. As Paul said in 1Corinthians 13:1-13, the gifts of speaking in tongues and other gifts of d holy spirit would pass away with time. This is because as d christian congregation was still in its baby or infant stage, extraordinary gifts of the spirit was needed to convince people of God's approval of the christian congregation but as time went by and it grew beyond the babe stage, the traits of babes has to be put way and as such these gifts are no longer required. They ve outlived their purpose. Hence, we should not be arried away with all these fake pentecostal churches. Look at what d Bible says Matthew 7:21-23, 2Thessolonians 2:8-10 God bless you for this. It is so very insightful. For the first time, I am being cleared of my confusion |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 10:05pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
NeeKlaus:If great men of God if this present times stil speak in tongues after they have done all the research and you stil do not speak in tongues then I must say you are very wrong. If people stil speak in tongues and stil receive answers to their prayers (personal experience) then my dear I am shocked at your comment. If Paul said I speak in tongues more than all of you and you call it nonsense, my friend I am really sorry |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by otr1(m): 10:08pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
talebearer123:The only power satan lost is his place beside the throne of God. He still communicates with the Most High (the book of Job is a hint). Now I wonder if he now speaks yoruba to God. Lol. See bros, even the Bible tells us we are up against powers and principalities (Ephesians 6:12). And the armor of God (verses 13-17) is our protection. Read Daniel 10 and you will understand that the devil do not need to listen to your prayers to delay the answer. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by NeeKlaus: 10:14pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
ehimeayeni:So, you follow the crowd just because you feel THEY are right? You accept whatever your ministers tell you just because you believe they have the moral standing to do so?? They are your Men of God. I am a Catholic and my Pope has never spoken in tongues in a public gathering so what are you saying? Face it! You people can't give a valid reason for your method of speaking in tongues. Most of you do it just because others are doing it and you fear castigation from your Brethren. Well, all men to their faith. Believe in what you hold on to and let me believe mine. |
| Re: 10 Reasons Why Every Believer Must Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 10:32pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
NeeKlaus:Like I said I have prayed in tongues and I have received answers. I will not want to go into what happens in the Catholic Church because I was a catholic before. I am baptized and confirmed catholic but I left for personal reasons. I don't practice my Christianity because of fear of anybody. I am doing it for my personal salvation. If you say the pope has not spoken in tongues, God will not punish him. God will not punish anybody for speaking in tongues. Like I said again I have received answers for my praying in tongues and not because I am afraid of anyone |
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Tongues speaking was a gift of d holy spirit which enabled early christians back then to preach in a language(tongue) other than their own.