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AbuUthaymeen:
Nice. . just try to attend sunni lectures there o. . I go like to kum dea.. help me with visa

Everything i presented so far is not sunni?. Is it shia's?.

Anyone Muslim brother and sister that are eager to get married according to the sunnah,which they are ready to mingle with our single bro and sister, there is a group I will like to recommend for you,am sure you will never regret joining...

I got my missing rib in the forum and which we are getting married soon

Contact me via my whatapps number
07039656945

Kayberry101:
Anyone Muslim brother and sister that are eager to get married according to the sunnah,which they are ready to mingle with our single bro and sister, there is a group I will like to recommend for you,am sure you will never regret joining...

I got my missing rib in the forum and which we are getting married soon

Contact me via my whatapps number
07039656945

Lol
I'm not ready to mingle , but can I join?

AbuUthaymeen:
Nice. . just try to attend sunni lectures there o. . I go like to kum dea.. help me with visa

Guy come to Leisure springs hotel next week Friday.
There is this mosque I'll take you too, it's you ppl that call yourselves Ahlusunnah's mosque , so no need to worry.

Just come on Friday , there are questions and answer sections,although d Imam's opinions are sometimes off, but he'll be able to explain some things to you.

Your own belief is extremely unislamic, that's how bokoharam and Isis started.

Raintaker:
Guy come to Leisure springs hotel next week Friday.
There is this mosque I'll take you too, it's you ppl that call yourselves Ahlusunnah's mosque , so no need to worry.

Just come on Friday , there are questions and answer sections,although d Imam's opinions are sometimes off, but he'll be able to explain some things to you.

Your own belief is extremely unislamic, that's how bokoharam and Isis started.

LAUGHING. . EVEN SHIA CALL THEMSELVES AHLU SUNNAH. . ITS WHAT YOU SAY AND DO THAT MAKES YOU AN AHLU SUNNAH . . . AND WHAT QUESTION WILL I ASK? AND, IF AM N0T BUSY, I MIGHT COME. . anyway, i am plumber by profession, hala at me if there is plumbing w0rks in your capacity. .GXM

AbuUthaymeen:
LAUGHING. . EVEN SHIA CALL THEMSELVES AHLU SUNNAH. . ITS WHAT YOU SAY AND DO THAT MAKES YOU AN AHLU SUNNAH . . . AND WHAT QUESTION WILL I ASK? AND, IF AM N0T BUSY, I MIGHT COME. . anyway, i am plumber by profession, hala at me if there is plumbing w0rks in your capacity. .GXM

OK.
just come.








I actually have some works in my capacity, but you don't work with people that you think are not Salafi.

So you may not be able to work with me.

Raintaker:
OK.
just come.








I actually have some works in my capacity, but you don't work with people that you think are not Salafi.

So you may not be able to work with me.

Why na. . when did i say i cant w0rk with you? rasul did business with kafir na. . and besides, whats the name of the m0sque? am having a work in progress at bolanle area. . going there t0m0rw. . u osogbo based? . .v t

Raintaker:
OK.
just come.








I actually have some works in my capacity, but you don't work with people that you think are not Salafi.

So you may not be able to work with me.

IF YOU KN0W THE US0OL OF BOKO HARAM. . U WILL KN0W THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY N0T A MUSLIM TALKLESS OF BEING COMPARED TO SALAF. . . . . . . . . boko haram= khawarij. boko haram = seyid kutub and hassanbana. . . boko haram calls muslims a kafir, boko haram are always fighting government, they critisize, protest, they kill muslims, they believe everybody is kafir except them... they are no way a muslim . . why would you call salaf a khawarij? all we c0uld do is just to make takfir of kafir and explain the deen........... its when we have amir . .then its him that will make punishment on unbelievers

AbuUthaymeen:
Why na. . when did i say i cant w0rk with you? rasul did business with kafir na. . and besides, whats the name of the m0sque? am having a work in progress at bolanle area. . going there t0m0rw. . u osogbo based? . .v t

The mosque doesn't have a name per se, it's in a petrol Station.
The mosque is majorly a jumat mosque (not too far from that Bolanle self), so you may not really meet ppl, if u come outside of Jum'at.







Not really Osogbo based, but I've been spending a lot of time in Osogbo these days.






Well, if any works shows up and I'm sure u can handle them , I'll Holland @ you.

Raintaker:
The mosque doesn't have a name per se, it's in a petrol Station.
The mosque is majorly a jumat mosque (not too far from that Bolanle self), so you may not really meet ppl, if u come outside of Jum'at.







Not really Osogbo based, but I've been spending a lot of time in Osogbo these days.






Well, if any works shows up and I'm sure u can handle them , I'll Holland @ you.

Ok bruv .. gud nyt..

AbuUthaymeen:
IF YOU KN0W THE US0OL OF BOKO HARAM. . U WILL KN0W THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY N0T A MUSLIM TALKLESS OF BEING COMPARED TO SALAF. . . . . . . . . boko haram= khawarij. boko haram = seyid kutub and hassanbana. . . boko haram calls muslims a kafir, boko haram are always fighting government, they critisize, protest, they kill muslims, they believe everybody is kafir except them... they are no way a muslim . . why would you call salaf a khawarij? all we c0uld do is just to make takfir of kafir and explain the deen........... its when we have amir . .then its him that will make punishment on unbelievers

Lol you also call muslims kafirs, so what's d difference?
So you didn't know the consensus of scholars have actually declared d Jabata you follow a khawarij?

You ppl are not salads though, you just like ascribing d salaf name to yourselves.

Raintaker:
Lol you also call muslims kafirs, so what's d difference?
So you didn't know the consensus of scholars have actually declared d Jabata you follow a khawarij?

WHO IS A MUSLIM THAT I CALLED KAFIR? CONCENSUS OF SCHOLAR HAS NO PROOF IN ISLAM. .7

Raintaker:
Lol you also call muslims kafirs, so what's d difference?
So you didn't know the consensus of scholars have actually declared d Jabata you follow a khawarij?

You ppl are not salads though, you just like ascribing d salaf name to yourselves.

AND WHY IS JABATA A KHAWARIJ? please prove it

AbuUthaymeen:
WHO IS A MUSLIM THAT I CALLED KAFIR? CONCENSUS OF SCHOLAR HAS NO PROOF IN ISLAM. .7

Lol according to you, you are d only one that is Muslim here on Islam section, d rest of us are kafirs.

AbuUthaymeen:
AND WHY IS JABATA A KHAWARIJ? please prove it

He holds people of misguidance to be his role model e.g. Rabee’ Al-Madkhali who is even a Jahmiy and ‘Ubayd al-Jaabiree who is an unrepentant sorcerer.
Jabata and his gang have extreme levels of ignorance just like the ignorance of the first generation of Khawaarij. An example of this is that they call themselves ‘Salaf’ and they call the pious predecessors ‘Salafiyyuun’.
Jabata has a supportive position of the Saudi Mushrik regime who permit grave-worship, Ribaa (interest), Maolid Nabiyy and allow the Raafidha in the Madeenah of the Messenger. Although he does Takfeer of some of the Kufr regimes (e.g. Nigeria), but, he is always in agreement in praising and supporting the Saudi regime publicly. What is however surprising is that he had once said that though the Saudi regime rules with other than Allah’s law and it’s kufr akbar but, if one is not capable of fighting them and he does so then, those who do so are Khawaarij and disbelievers.
He declares noble acts of worship as innovations due to his extreme ignorance examples are Jihaad, supplicating for one’s brother in his presence, to say Aameen to Du’aa’ etc. He also declares eating with spoon bid’ah and whoever insists on it becomes a Kaafir.
He holds the belief that all bid’ah is Kufr and Shirk, thus all innovators are Kuffaar even the innovators does not commit Shirk only that he counts his dhirk with beads.
And from his excessiveness in the religion of Allaah is that he established a deviant sect and named it “Firqatun-Naajiyah”, he also designed a logo and banner for it. And several other innovations of this man.















First point.


“And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their own selves, if they but knew.” (Quran 2:102)

Allah is against sorcery and Jabata takes a known sorcerer as a role model.

Raintaker:
Lol according to you, you are d only one that is Muslim here on Islam section, d rest of us are kafirs.

WHY do u like telling lies? kilode ti e ma n pa iro naa? ki le fe gain ni ibe? haba. . emi nikan ni muslim? when did i say that? i never said that . . and people i have make takfir of is just empiree, al baqir, abdel kabir . . lobatan . . even you that u a sufi i cant sare kal u kafir na . . until u fufil all the conditi0ns of being a kafir i can make takfir of u na. .

Raintaker:
Lol according to you, you are d only one that is Muslim here on Islam section, d rest of us are kafirs.

AV READ ALL YOUR ACCUSATIONS ON JABATA. . JUST BRING PROOF FR0M QURAN AND HADITH THAT IS AGAINST EACH AND EVERY ACCUSATIONS YOU MADE ON JABATA. . and explain. . lobatan

AbuUthaymeen:
WHY do u like telling lies? kilode ti e ma n pa iro naa? ki le fe gain ni ibe? haba. . emi nikan ni muslim? when did i say that? i never said that . . and people i have make takfir of is just empiree, al baqir, abdel kabir . . lobatan . . even you that u a sufi i cant sare kal u kafir na . . until u fufil all the conditi0ns of being a kafir i can make takfir of u na. .

I can relate with all d people u mentioned aqeedah, because we all believe in the oneness of Allah and that Muhammad(SAW) is d messenger of Allah.

So an attack on a part of Muslims is an attack on All us Muslims.

You see y I say, according to you d rest of us are kafirs?

AbuUthaymeen:
AV READ ALL YOUR ACCUSATIONS ON JABATA. . JUST BRING PROOF FR0M QURAN AND HADITH THAT IS AGAINST EACH AND EVERY ACCUSATIONS YOU MADE ON JABATA. . and explain. . lobatan

Insha Allah I'll do this, but not tonight.

Raintaker:
I can relate with all d people u mentioned aqeedah, because we all believe in the oneness of Allah and that Muhammad(SAW) is d messenger of Allah.

So an attack on a part of Muslims is an attack on All us Muslims.

You see y I say, according to you d rest of us are kafirs?

WHICH MUSLIM DID I KAL KAFIR? and have i ever call other people here a kafir? . .kilode ti o n pa iro. .ko daa na. . . . . . . and you talk of believing in ALLAH. . . . .and rasul. . . . . . . . . . . . . . why would s0me0ne wh0 said he believe in ALLAH worship ALLAH with what ALLAH didnt c0mmand?? trying to say that you are wiser than ALLAH abi? . . why would s0meone who said he believe in rasul do everything rasul didnt do to worship ALLAH? trying to say that ALLAH make mistake abi? and that rasul didnt deliver islam message to us like he is instructed abi? huh- ggdg

Raintaker:
Insha Allah I'll do this, but not tonight.

EXPLAIN JUST 1 . .WITH QURAN AND HADITH

AbuUthaymeen:
WHICH MUSLIM DID I KAL KAFIR? and have i ever call other people here a kafir? . .kilode ti o n pa iro. .ko daa na. . . . . . . and you talk of believing in ALLAH. . . . .and rasul. . . . . . . . . . . . . . why would s0me0ne wh0 said he believe in ALLAH worship ALLAH with what ALLAH didnt c0mmand?? trying to say that you are wiser than ALLAH abi? . . why would s0meone who said he believe in rasul do everything rasul didnt do to worship ALLAH? trying to say that ALLAH make mistake abi? and that rasul didnt deliver islam message to us like he is instructed abi? huh- ggdg

Hey, seems you didn't understand my post.

You attack someone that submit himself to d will of Allah by calling him kafir and you think you are not referring to all of us that submit ourselves to d will of Allah?
Think again.

"Indeed, those who believe , and
those who are Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians , any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."[Quran 2:62]
"Indeed, those who believe , and those who are Jews, and the Sabians and the Christians , any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."[Quran 5:69]

Even in the Quran, Allah said d reward of those who are not even in anyway Muslims (Swabians and Jews) are with him, but yet you call those in d fold of Islam Kaafir?
Do you know more than Allah?

By tomorrow Insha Allah I'll be explaining who a kafir is with evidence from d Quran.

Raintaker:
Insha Allah I'll do this, but not tonight.

WHO IS THAT MUSLIM I CALL KAFIR O O. .

Raintaker:
Insha Allah I'll do this, but not tonight.

AND THOSE QURAN VERSES YOU QUOTED DOESNT APPLY TO THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS DURING RASUL ERA ... as l0ng as u meet rasul, and u died n0t believing in rasul, u a kafir .... every0ne alive during rasul pr0pheth0od and didnt f0ll0w him is a kafir.. rasul also said that even if m0ses is alive, he will f0ll0w him(rasul) . . even when nabiy eesa even comes back- he will be an ahlu sunnah. . .0m0 leyin anabi muhammad. . . . . . . . .j.4wde

AbuUthaymeen:
AND THOSE QURAN VERSES YOU QUOTED DOESNT APPLY TO THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS DURING RASUL ERA ... as l0ng as u meet rasul, and u died n0t believing in rasul, u a kafir .... every0ne alive during rasul pr0pheth0od and didnt f0ll0w him is a kafir.. rasul also said that even if m0ses is alive, he will f0ll0w him(rasul) . . even when nabiy eesa even comes back- he will be an ahlu sunnah. . .0m0 leyin anabi muhammad. . . . . . . . .j.4wde

Lol , doesn't apply to Christians and Jews during Rasul's era.

So you are saying d Quran i s no longer a kitaab of d past , present and future?
Limiting d message of d Quran to one era?

Raintaker:
Lol , doesn't apply to Christians and Jews during Rasul's era.

So you are saying d Quran i s no longer a kitaab of d past , present and future?
Limiting d message of d Quran to one era?

n0t all quran verse applies to ummah of rasul. . .for example, ALLAH said, musa people should kill themselves because of their sin so that he could forgive them. . .why d0nt u too kill yourself so that u will be forgiven? ... and on the issue of jews and christians... they are out of aqeedah of muslims.. believing in ALLAH alone doesnt make u a muslim.. ALLAH, ANGELS, HOLY BOOKS, PROPHETS, LAST DAY AND QADAR(both g0od and bad) . . to disbelieve in 1 is to disbelieve in all ... k

AbuUthaymeen:
n0t all quran verse applies to ummah of rasul. . .for example, ALLAH said, musa people should kill themselves because of their sin so that he could forgive them. . .why d0nt u too kill yourself so that u will be forgiven? ... and on the issue of jews and christians... they are out of aqeedah of muslims.. believing in ALLAH alone doesnt make u a muslim.. ALLAH, ANGELS, HOLY BOOKS, PROPHETS, LAST DAY AND QADAR(both g0od and bad) . . to disbelieve in 1 is to disbelieve in all ... k

The issue of Musa's ppl is actually off(entirely off), you still need more understanding of d Quran.




The Musa's ppl that were ordered to kill themselves were d Calf worshippers and Indeed Allah brought then back to life , it is evident in d next verse that follows DAT one.

So I don't understand why you made reference to d issue of Musa's people.

AbuUthaymeen:
n0t all quran verse applies to ummah of rasul. . .for example, ALLAH said, musa people should kill themselves because of their sin so that he could forgive them. . .why d0nt u too kill yourself so that u will be forgiven? ... and on the issue of jews and christians... they are out of aqeedah of muslims.. believing in ALLAH alone doesnt make u a muslim.. ALLAH, ANGELS, HOLY BOOKS, PROPHETS, LAST DAY AND QADAR(both g0od and bad) . . to disbelieve in 1 is to disbelieve in all ... k

And I deliberately used submitting to d will of Allah and not believe in Allah(Salam d root word for submission in Arabic).
Muslim =ones who submits himself.


so if you submit yourself to d will of Allah, you definitely believe in all d articles of faith without any one being exempted.
Kapish?

Raintaker:
The issue of Musa's ppl is actually off(entirely off), you still need more understanding of d Quran.




The Musa's ppl that were ordered to kill themselves were d Calf worshippers and Indeed Allah brought then back to life , it is evident in d next verse that follows DAT one.

So I don't understand why you made reference to d issue of Musa's people.

OK, DO JEWS AND CHRISTIAN BELIEVE IN ALLAH?

Raintaker:
And I deliberately used submitting to d will of Allah and not believe in Allah(Salam d root word for submission in Arabic).
Muslim =ones who submits himself.


so if you submit yourself to d will of Allah, you definitely believe in all d articles of faith without any one being exempted.
Kapish?

EXACTLY, so which article of faith do christian, jew and sufi, shia, mss and other egbe(sect) believe in? . . . . . .g

See how the guy is denying many things he said. He called anyone he perceived to be sufi kafir. He would not work with non-salafi plumber. He even opened a thread looking for salafi plumber only. At the time he opened that thread, i had major plumbing work to be done for entire new building. But he would not accept non-salafi plumber. So i excused him

He just lied that he didnt call ppl kufar. He called Saheikh Kamal, Sheikh Adam, Sheikh Ajani Bello, Sheikh Oniwasiagbaye and the list goes on. He called these people kufar. He can deny all he want. He called ikupakuti kafir too.

Evidence that he is the "only" Muslim in islam section is that he opened a thread recently and he insisted on only Muslim contributions. Interestingly, no Muslims on different manhaj contributed except about 3 of us and he declared of all kufar.

He also sad there is nothing like ijma in Islam but Quran refutes his nonsense. sūrat l-nisāa 114


And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination.


That highlighted blue line is ijma

Raintaker:
Lol , doesn't apply to Christians and Jews during Rasul's era.

So you are saying d Quran i s no longer a kitaab of d past , present and future?
Limiting d message of d Quran to one era?

AND THE QURAN VERSES YOU QUOTED, ALLAH WAS TELLING RASUL HIST0RY ABOUT THE TIME OF JEWS, CHRISTIANS AND THEIR PROPHETS ..R