₦airaland Forum

Almaheed:
shut up your mouth uncle Tom, keep spilling nonsense everywhere in your mind now you are above the black race, you had better begin to read more black history and know how large our civilization was. keep fooling yourself you can never be a white man, your reasoning depicts Inferiority and a deluded mind, after all you are only dancing to the tune of your white god

Okoyiboz3:
FYI, in the constitution, the only ministerial post where a profession is prescribed for the Minister is the Attorney-General and Minister/Commissioner for Justice.

munas:
Did you just hear yourself?
Repair a car engine?
Thats not the job of a professor of engineering anywhere in the world.Even in harvard..,,or cambrige...its not done.

Mechanical engineers’ job is about design, analysis, and manufacturing cars, and many other mechanical systems : while its the job of the mechanics to find faults and repair cars

Xano:
I believe the question I asked you is not hard.
But with your kind of individual, to spin it is better than admit your error.
Continue.

Bolustical:
Amaechi spoke the bitter truth.

We do not have real engineers in Nigeria. Many of our professors here cannot carry out routine repairs on generators and and their personal cars without calling on roadside mechanics.

Was it not yesterday on NL that some Chinese experts came to discover uranium and other resources in Cross River State when we have numerous Profs in geology here?

Our Engineering grads are only good on paper and drawing, nothing more.

munas:
Why are you shifting the goal post?

As first you talked about not buying Innoson cars because of safety issues....now you are runing to "having a foreigner who puts conclusion to the manufacturing process"

Fosil fuel car manufcturing done by innoson is not rocket science once you got the training,equitment and technology transfer.
There no foreigner anywhere putting finishing touches.

If the railways did not die and governemnt providing enough funding to it,we could have advanced our knowledge in that area.
Those day,the railways own foundires where they fabricate train/rail parts for the railway system.

Finally,without developing our iron and steel,we will go no where in rail technology,

dutchnorics:
Why are they blasting him,did he lie?I agree with amaechi most of engineers doesn't have the expertise to handle railway technology.

fineboynl:
.. modern development and civic civilization is not a black culture and not part of blacks. until blacks admit this and tell themselves the truth. black all over the world lack everything it takes to build a develop nation. it's not part of them. a nation is not rich by mare natural resources but artificial resources and intelligence.


Black's can't developed their country not because they don't like to but because they don't have what it takes in their brain. its just God that made it so. the white shouldn't have bothered themselves with black people. they should have been left alone in the dark. i don't hate blacks but i love you guys not to tell you the Truth. you guys should have been left alone with your culture and heritage not forcing colonialism on your throat which your forefathers rejected but were defeated.

Bluffly:
Be sincere with yourself. Blacks residing in this part of the world under African governments have traded ingenuity for belly consumption. I bet you that you only see it as putting together of some irons. Blacks are in a rush with everything, they want to actualize "Z" without passing through "J".
We need to accept our shortcomings before we start making things right other than just believing that we are there. It is not by mouth as the word is cheap.

I was talking to an engineer sometimes ago and he said that there are many unnecessary components in a white's man construction that they are just to safety conscious and that beats my imagination as to what the heck are you innovating or constructing without adequate safety measures. Can you see why Amaechi may be vindicated? Please, I agree that we are blessed but it is not to believe but rather to get committed to real development.

Please is it enough for a child to believe that he/she is brilliant without attending classes and developing himself or herself?

oluwaahmed:
Black africa is under-developed because of d white man. D whiteman taught sme black ple deir evil & corrupt ways and thus dose. Black pple hav held africa down 4 years. Even till now, d west still continue to impose deir stooges 2 rule us while d good brains run outa d con3 only 2 become legends. Do u knw ow many American sport athletes are Africans, ok look @ ddeir sport, is it not dominated by black pple? 4rm US,UK to France black pple dominate sports in dese countries. D amechi dat is talkin is he part of d problem, go & look @ d monorail project he constructe 500m for 50million. Our leaders hav failed 2 invest in educatn so wld africa develope? Go 2 uni- illorin, CU go & see wat student are doin der, wit consistency, dey can change d world. Do u knw der are african nuclear physicist in NASA? All d deadly diseases like Ebola, HIV all originated 4rm africa, why dint dey kill our fore father's since. White man is gud yes, but doesn't mean d black man is dull. Ow many whites get scholarships 2 ivy league schls, go & count d amount of black ple in ivy league schls on scholarship. We will reach der one day.

Bluffly:
There is a saying that no one can make you look like a fool except you permit. When will we stop blaming others for our woes? Is it a foreigner that signs cheques for the government? Please, there is a difference when one does not have a capacity and been dull. Blacks are not dull but we are yet to develop our capacity. How can you say all those diseases came from Africa? Please stop spreading degrading lies and beliefs.

oluwaahmed:
U're highly ignorant find links below of origin of dese deadly diseases.

HIV crossed from chimps to humans in the 1920's in what is now the Democratic Republic of Congo. Origin of HIV & AIDS | AVERT
https://www.avert.org/...hiv-aids/origin

The first reported case of the deadly virus came in 1976 and it is named after the Ebola River in the Democratic Republic of Congo which was where it was discovered.
How Ebola Emerged Out of the Jungle - ABC News
abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola.../story?id..

[b]U see my broda d white man has lied to d whole world and degraded d black race not me. If ebola & hiv originated in africa why dint it wipe out our fore-father[/b]s? U see wat am sayin bruv

Bluffly:
Then you are quite gullible. When a race wants to believe that deadly disease can only come from they. They reported it in the media and you believe everything. Even if you cannot make efforts to prove them wrong, yet you swallowed it. Do you know the rate of scientific researchers that went wrong? Are you are that a virus can be innovated?

Well, it's okay if you say your own fore fathers.

And you are antagonizing yourself.

oluwaahmed:
U're highly unintelligent & can't comprehend simple statement. Get d fuvck off my handle. Go and re-read my post again & stop lookin stupid online

icedfire:
Engr is just a tag

Would u rather give your car to a Japanese or Chinese technician who works at Toyota and has years of experience or a Nigerian automotive engineer with an M.eng in mechanical engineering who can not diagnose a faulty car let alone design one?

Nigerian certificates are grossly overrated.

Ameachi i am sorry was right. The Chinese technicians as you call them have years of experience building railway lines in China, Kenya and other African countries. The Nigerian engineer is only good at gathering titles and certificates. Mni, mnse, M.eng, b.eng etc

Adiwana:
And who told you you all the bullshit you typed up there.A Nigerian Mec. Engineer cannot design a Car?God!Enough with this useless assumptions.Go to Unizik for example and see what Students do with solidworks.In real Sense,an Engr has no business diagnosing a faulty car.Go and read the difference between a mechanic and a mechanical engineer. Stop trying to sound smart cause you are actually sounding stupid

TheGoodJoe:
Mech Engineering Professors should know the engines of Cars and Generators inside out.

Bluffly:
Show me a prototype video of what Nigerians have claimed they can do. Do you think all these things are just to believe that they can do it? Let them market themselves. Sell technologies to us, safety measures etc. Do you think USA government just believe in their engineer without close to reality prototypes and strong research committment? Do you know how many years it took engineers to build Airbus plane?

I for one will not shy away from the truth. Our engineers need to do more to convince the government. Nobody wants to die anyhow or be responsible for a mass death. Do you own an Innosson vehicle? I'm sure you are considering safety measures until proving otherwise.
Please be sincere with yourself.

TheGoodJoe:
Mechanical engineering

Mechanical engineering is the discipline that applies engineering, physics, and materials science principles to design, analyze, manufacture, and maintain mechanical systems. It is the branch of engineering that involves the design, production, and operation of machinery. It is one of the oldest and broadest of the engineering disciplines.

FROM WIKIPEDIA

If a Mech. Engineer cannot figure his way around a car engine, is that one a Mech. engineer?

GuidoVanRossum:
Please where did you see repair in the above definition?

fineboynl:
.. modern development and civic civilization is not a black culture and not part of blacks. until blacks admit this and tell themselves the truth. black all over the world lack everything it takes to build a develop nation. it's not part of them. a nation is not rich by mare natural resources but artificial resources and intelligence.


Black's can't developed their country not because they don't like to but because they don't have what it takes in their brain. its just God that made it so. the white shouldn't have bothered themselves with black people. they should have been left alone in the dark. i don't hate blacks but i love you guys not to tell you the Truth. you guys should have been left alone with your culture and heritage not forcing colonialism on your throat which your forefathers rejected but were defeated.

iukpe:
Engineers in the USA just do not build bridges, submarines, Airbus and spaceships from their salaries, these projects like railways, power stations require a lot of financial resources to muster the design fabrication, prototype testing, model construction, testing and actual project implementation. Only governments or large financial loans can foot such bills.
And who says safety is a guarantee? can you remember the NASA space ship challenger, and the accident that occurred at launch. That wasn't their first or last. It was not out of poor design or incompetency and I am sure NASA and the USA government have taken measures to prevent such an occurrence in future.
The fact is, there is nothing holding back the minister from saying that "Nigerian Engineers will now build our railway system".
The minister, if he is technologically sound, should have the basic idea of what a railway system is all about. He will then proceed to look inwards for capable persons who can come up with the needed design ideas, who are capable of making recommendations to the resources available in our country that can be pulled together for such a project.
He will further build up a basic plan for the project startup, which will involve fabrications and assembly of parts needed to build railway equipment.
Our government need to invest in home made technology for big things. The North Korean nuclear technology is built by North Koreans, they cannot afford to have foreigners involved in such a project.
The missing thing in our country is not the knowledge, it's the opportunity. We are used to importing technology, right from time and the risk is that we will always import technology especially at the rate technology is changing or evolving in every field. We need to start so we can catch up someday.
Our railway system like Innoson vehicles you refer to may not be the best looking railway coaches or tracks at first build but all technology products start from somewhere to what you see and call modern today, cars from Mercedes, BMW etc are looking sleek and sweet every year because most times they just put a new body over the same frame while they develop a new frame. same thing with phones. Remember the Tecno mobile 15 years ago, I wouldn't buy a Tecno, It used to be a very weak, china product that would fail any day, with its 2 or 3 sim.

We can make it if we try, building technology for ourselves. Nigerian engineers can build powers stations, warships, planes etc, if the government focuses on supporting indigenous technology. And that is the first step to over come failures because we will easily identify the problem within the design, the weak part of our product, that is causing the failure and make it stronger, hence a more reliable product at the end that we can sell to other nations.

I have built and fabricated a few things myself since childhood. I studied mechanical engineering, but I love electronics. In 1987 I built my first FM transmitting station on campus and continued to develop my design till 1994 when the NYSC sponsored my project to build and install an FM station on the NYSC camp in Kwara state through Colonel Sofoluwe who was the DG of the scheme at that time. That wouldn't have been possible on my own. I was not presented with an award even at that.
In 1998 I built a transistor UPS inverter which I powered a few appliances in my room using old car batteries and this were not inventions but things I made myself using components manufactured by other people and available in the market or some from scraps.
I still build things to day with a lot of ideas but you only stop at designs and a few prototypes because big cash makes things real.

Innoson will soon become one of the leading auto manufacturers in Africa in a few years as soon as they can break even and begin to produce cars at a price people are willing to try. If an Innoson brand new car goes for N1m or N600k I am sure people will begin to think again. What our government or ministers need to do is to move into Innoson and subsidize their manufacturing so they can roll out vehicles at unbelievable prices such that Nigerian can try them out, this will give Innoson the opportunity to discover the areas of improvement in their design and give them the needed resources to get better.
Nigeria can make it, our leaders do not believe in the country, all they want is to make money from contract! contract!! contract!!!

TheGoodJoe:
Did you not read maintain? Na wa.

GuidoVanRossum:
And you don't know the differences between maintain and repair?

I don't blame you. It's the way you Nigerians think about engineering discipline. You are not alone in that ignorance. One of my life mentor who happens to be a lawyer will always want to argue why as a mechanical engineer, I should be able to repair automobiles.

You don't have any idea of what engineering is. Nope, you do not really know who a mechanical engineer is.

Do you even know what automobiles are apart from owning and driving one?

I don't even know where to start with you. How many havard graduate engineers do you see repairing automobile even in the us? It's not because it's too low for them, it's because it's not their job and hence they no jack about it. An automobile engineer isn't even saddled with the responsibility of car repair. That's not what you are trained in school to do. Take BMW to a very good Toyota trained white mechanic and the chances that he will fumble is high. Because each car and each model are designed differently.

TheGoodJoe:
Can you as an engineer maintain a machine for three years without repairs? Maintain is to keep it in working condition.