Odunayaw:
2 things are set to happen if Artillery Is used in a reactionary manner

1. Blue on Blue accident
2. Civilian casualty

As far as am concerned the Army should stop sending patrols without armored vehicles in tow

I know but it can also wreck havoc if it's coordinated properly and I also agree that it can't be used in densely populated areas except mortars. In all, we seriously need those MRAPS OR Ivf asap

I've also noticed that N. A hasn't been making use of anti-personal defense mines like the American CLAYMORE and someone said we're signatories to the Ottawa treaty, that's why they've not been using it.

Do you know anything about this treaty

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/241405-nigeria-considers-buying-fighter-planes-artillery-others-russia.html
Premium Times to a certain extent are known for their accuracy
I believe this is a topic worth discussing i would like to hear from anyone what type of Artillery systems and Armoured Vehicles could that also mean Tanks? and MRAPS what kind of MRAPS ? Please intelligent discussions only no political discussion on GEJ vs PMB, This might be the first MAJOR PROCUREMENT for the N.A.
Thank you in advance NO DERAILMENT.

Perhaps Nigeria is pushing to standardize mbt as a t72/t90? Would make sense imo. Then the Vickers could be converted to IFV (think along the lines of the terminator) or other support vehicles like recovery vehicles, bridgelayers, or Afghanskii style AA guns/IFV. That what I can think of ground vehicle wise.

saintjoel:


I know but it can also wreck havoc if it's coordinated properly and I also agree that it can't be used in densely populated areas except mortars. In all, we seriously need those MRAPS OR Ivf asap

I've also noticed that N. A hasn't been making use of anti-personal defense mines like the American CLAYMORE and someone said we're signatories to the Ottawa treaty, that's why they've not been using it.

Do you know anything about this treaty

The Nigerian Army has used Artillery cover before ....... and it has resulted in on Blue on Blue in which a well known LT. COL was killed . Arty cover has to be carefully managed and at this stage N.A. are trained to fight through ambushes .

saintjoel:


I know but it can also wreck havoc if it's coordinated properly and I also agree that it can't be used in densely populated areas except mortars. In all, we seriously need those MRAPS OR Ivf asap

I've also noticed that N. A hasn't been making use of anti-personal defense mines like the American CLAYMORE and someone said we're signatories to the Ottawa treaty, that's why they've not been using it.

Do you know anything about this treaty

Yes We can't just go about mining areas . The North east is still some1s home.

I just wish the expansion of the Army can grow along with its materiel now am beginning to understand patches POV

Odunayaw:
Yes We can't just go about mining areas . The North east is still some1s home.

I just wish the expansion of the Army can grow along with its materiel now am beginning to understand patches POV

CLAYMORE is actually a remote controlled explosive device for temporary use,it is used to secure perimeters . It can be rolled up immediately the troops are about to move out of their initial position.

400 ball bearings compacted into just one claymore, imagine what 10 will do,when BHTs are about to attack your group.

Henry240:

Great news, but not concrete enough.

This guy made this comment in 2016. This means some people already have info about this whole process.

There must be a reason why every air force procurement is in 12s.

saintjoel:



CLAYMORE is actually a remote controlled explosive device for temporary use,it is used to secure perimeters . It can be rolled up immediately the troops are about to move out of their initial position.

400 ball bearings compacted into just one claymore, imagine what 10 will do,when BHTs are about to attack your group.

So where would the claymores be sited on motorways? roads? bush paths?

Odunayaw:
So where would the claymores be sited on motorways? roads? bush paths?

Boss, it seems you're misquoting me.

It's basically used to secure positions,in a situation where troops need to bed down for a night or two,it can also be used to secure FOBs,it can also be used when you want to ambush enemy troops. I wasn't saying anything about using them to get out of ambush.









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The M18A1 Claymore mine has a horizontally convex gray-green plastic case (inert training versions are light blue or green with a light blue band). The shape was developed through experimentation to deliver the optimum distribution of fragments at 50 m (55 yd) range. The case has the words "FRONT TOWARD ENEMY" embossed on the front of the mine.[3] A simple open sight on the top surface allows for aiming the mine. Two pairs of scissor legs attached to the bottom support the mine and allow it to be aimed vertically. On both sides of the sight are fuse wells set at 45 degrees.

Internally the mine contains a layer of C-4 explosive behind a matrix of about seven hundred 1⁄8-inch-diameter (3.2 mm) steel balls set into an epoxy resin.

When the M18A1 is detonated, the explosion drives the matrix forward, out of the mine at a velocity of 1,200 m/s (3,937 ft/s),[1] at the same time breaking it into individual fragments. The steel balls are projected in a 60° fan-shaped pattern that is 6.5 feet (2.0 m) high and 50 m (55 yd) wide at a range of 50 m (55 yd). The force of the explosion deforms the relatively soft steel balls into a shape similar to a .22 rimfire projectile.[1] These fragments are moderately effective up to a range of 100 m (110 yd), with a hit probability of around 10% on a prone man-sized 1.3-square-foot (0.12 m2) target. The fragments can travel up to 250 m (270 yd). The optimum effective range is 50 m (55 yd), at which the optimal balance is achieved between lethality and area coverage, with a hit probability of 30% on a man-sized target.[4]

The weapon and all its accessories are carried in an M7 bandoleer ("Claymore bag". The mine is detonated as the enemy personnel approaches the killing zone. Controlled detonation may be accomplished by use of either an electrical or non-electrical firing system. When mines are employed in the controlled role, they are treated as individual weapons and are reported in the unit fire plan. They are not reported as mines; however, the emplacing unit must ensure that the mines are removed, detonated, or turned over to a relieving unit. The 100-foot (30 m) M4 electric firing wire on a green plastic spool is provided in each bandoleer. The M57 firing device (colloquially referred to as the "clacker" is included with each mine. An M40 circuit test set is packed in each case of six mines. When the mines are daisy chained together, one firing device can detonate several mines.

The mine can be detonated by any mechanism that activates the blasting cap. There are field-expedient methods of detonating the mine by tripwire, or by a timer, but these are rarely used.

Throwback Thursday: EE-9 Cascavels of Togo.

PRESS RELEASE
NIGERIAN AIR FORCE AIRCRAFT CRASHES IN KADUNA
A Nigerian Air Force (NAF) Air Beetle Aircraft today crashed in Kaduna while on a mission. The only soul on board the aircraft, one of the NAF’s experienced instructor pilots, was unfortunately lost during the mishap. The cause of the incident is unknown but the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS) has immediately directed the constitution of a board of inquiry to determine the immediate and remote causes of the crash. The unfortunate incident is a tragic reminder of the hazards associated with the flying profession. The CAS and the entire NAF family commiserate with the relatives of the late instructor pilot.
OLATOKUNBO ADESANYA
Air Commodore
Director of Public
Relations and Information



The Air beetle still flies? RIP to the pilot

kikuyu1:
Saffers,seen this:

Price,as many have said it seems is a major MAJOR selling point.

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One TA 50 is 35mn$. Grip,C,D,E and F range from 70mn -80mn$.

http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/-fighter-aircraft.html

Besides the Gripen being much faster, much higher service ceiling, more payload, better g rating, better wing loading, more hard points, literally better in every single aspect.

But yeah they have similar capabilities!!

Odunayaw:
PRESS RELEASE
NIGERIAN AIR FORCE AIRCRAFT CRASHES IN KADUNA
A Nigerian Air Force (NAF) Air Beetle Aircraft today crashed in Kaduna while on a mission. The only soul on board the aircraft, one of the NAF’s experienced instructor pilots, was unfortunately lost during the mishap. The cause of the incident is unknown but the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS) has immediately directed the c onstitution of a board of inquiry to determine the immediate and remote causes of the crash. The unfortunate incident is a tragic reminder of the hazards associated with the flying profession. The CAS and the entire NAF family commiserate with the relatives of the late instructor pilot.
OLATOKUNBO ADESANYA
Air Commodore
Director of Public
Relations and Information
The Air beetle still flies? RIP to the pilot

Bad news. He paid the Supreme Price.

iblawi:


This guy made this comment in 2016. This means some people already have info about this whole process.

There must be a reason why every air force procurement is in 12s.

Man, if i'm being honest, it's a lot of comments that mean nothing from the Defence minister.

The only clear statement in all he said was Nigeria would participate in the 2018 edition of Tank Biathlon.

Henry240:


Man, if i'm being honest, it's a lot of comments that mean nothing from the Defence minister.

The only clear statement in all he said was Nigeria would participate in the 2018 edition of Tank Biathlon.

playing safe eh?

We'd have to sit and wait

Odunayaw:
Are you sure HMOD isn't following Jakeporeshenko's idea of scaring the Paks to start taking us serious?

Any Trainer/LCA we need must be a trainer that will serve as Lead in trainer for any 4/4_5 gen craft we'd buy unless we r back to the era of buying without policy

I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you, na to Siddon sip kunu

Obostone:


Now you know how to build your own patrol ships make sure you tear every system in this vessel apart to improve your own capacity. wicked but that is how we role nowadays. Make your own go get what you don't have at the moment and let not say steal but improve improve.

Indeed !

Odunayaw:
playing safe eh?

We'd have to sit and wait

I'm not playing it safe. Just nothing to be optimistic about.

jakeporeshenko:

I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you, na to Siddon sip kunu

The whole Air Force procurement is now becoming quite confusing.

@Chkil, do you have any new pictures of the recent launched locally built Algerian corvette?

The ironic timing of this exercise, can SADC not intervene in Sierra Leone

Henry240:


The whole Air Force procurement is now becoming quite confusing.

Smh I sense a little bit of panic from presidency, did you notice how security meeting with the service chiefs was like the first thing bubu did after he got back ?

All these potential and existing internal security issues facing Nigeria...

jln115:

Besides the Gripen being much faster, much higher service ceiling, more payload, better g rating, better wing loading, more hard points, literally better in every single aspect.

But yeah they have similar capabilities!!

Nemesis4u,can you compare the Grip,Golden Eagle and Tejas 2? We need a neutral experienced tech guy.

jakeporeshenko:

I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you, na to Siddon sip kunu

* snatches kunu*

jakeporeshenko:
The ironic timing of this exercise, can SADC not intervene in Sierra Leone

Sierra Leone is ECOWAS responsibility

Odunayaw:
Sierra Leone is ECOWAS responsibility

Anyone can help bro

Henry240:


The whole Air Force procurement is now becoming quite confusing.

Am sure it's because you prefer the SU to Mig.

The Mig will be using the same engine with JF17 thunder.

jakeporeshenko:

Anyone can help bro

Nigeria should take the lead She has at least 3 X c130s at her disposal
Ghana as rightly is playing a prominent role she has deployed her C295.
Those two Countries should play a lead role.
Morocco has also deployed one of it's Charlies.

kikuyu1:


Nemesis4u,can you compare the Grip,Golden Eagle and Tejas 2? We need a neutral experienced tech guy.

The golden eagle is no match for Gripen. It's better you just compare Gripen and Tejas.

iblawi:


Am sure it's because you prefer the SU to Mig.

The Mig will be using the same engine with JF17 thunder.

I just kinda think that it's not possible.

Henry240:


I just kinda think that it's not possible.

Well, it will still take some time because the minister of defence said they will come back with specification, analyse it before they sit down for negotiation.

iblawi:


Well, it will still take some time because the minister of defence said they will come back with specification, analyse it before they sit down for negotiation.

That's for the Yak-130.