pazienza:


I don't even think we need to meddle into the Ijaw-Ikwerre PH ish.

What we need is a sea access, Ikwerre can't give us that, as that route pass through Bonny area, currently controlled by Ijaws . Even with Ikwerre, we would still have the Obuaku current bottle neck. We would need to negotiate international treaties to bypass those bottlenecks.

Ijaws themselves are cornering the entire coastline of the better south, from Edo (Gelegele) to Akwaibom( they are claiming Ibeno and Eastern Obolo, as Andoni is currently aligned to Ijaw).

They are spread too thin and can't maintain those coastlines post Nigeria with their meagre population and bitter determined neighbors.

I had sat down and analyzed these variables and found out that we are better off staying off the Ijaw move for PH.

If we play our cards well and stay off this Ikwerre-Ijaw issue, we can make use of those conditions to secure for ourselves the sea access we need.

Ndiigbo need to let the Ikwerres be. It's strategic to do so. Ijaws are not our enemies, anymore than Ikwerres are, emotionalism need to give way to pragmatism for the Igbo nation to progress.
Peeps are not emotionally hindered from using us to play games to get what they want, we should also be ruthless enough to use peeps to play games to get what we want.
This is survival 101, and it's about time Ndiigbo started taking a crash program on it.

freshest4live:

we are all Nigerians in the end, whether Ikwere, fulani, Edo, Hausa, etc. Its our Zoo, one Zoo one people one love.

cumbak60:

What about if the Ikwerre decides to move back to the Igbo nation mainstream? Are you saying we should reject them? Its scary the way Ijaws are claiming any community that is close to the coastline with distorted facts. Their recent claim to Ndokis is something that should not be taken for a joke. On their FB page, one was already claiming that the Ndokis are the offshoot of the Kolokuma people, the original settlers of Bonny.

cumbak60:

What about if the Ikwerre decides to move back to the Igbo nation mainstream? Are you saying we should reject them? Its scary the way Ijaws are claiming any community that is close to the coastline with distorted facts. Their recent claim to Ndokis is something that should not be taken for a joke. On their FB page, one was already claiming that the Ndokis are the offshoot of the Kolokuma people, the original settlers of Bonny.

pazienza:


That is not going to happen, It will only happen not out of genuine brotherhood on the part of Ikwerre, but out of their own selfish interests and survival instincts , and truth be said, we should avoid that happening, if we still want sea access.
Ikwerre should remain distinct, while we embrace those of them that embraced us.

We shouldn't allow small group like Ikwerre play on our emotions to secure their own interests.

Ikwerre needs PH, it's the only city they have. But , do the Igbo really need PH? We already have many Urban centers and growing towns like Orlu, Okigwe, Nsukka, etc that can easily grow into big cities with good planning.
What we need is sea access, having PH will not guarantee us that. Bonny river is still controlled by the Ijaws, Ikwerre has no coastline.

This is my personal opinion though.

On Ndoki, I'm well aware of that development,i am a member of Ndoki facebook page too. But 4/5 of Ndoki land is already in Abia state and the Igbo ethnicity loyalty there is already too strong. We don't have to worry about Ndoki, the Ijaws are fighting a losing battle there , they only stand a chance with Oyigbo, but the rest of Ndoki in Abia already comfortable with the Igbo tag will keep Oyigbo people safe.
As long as 4/5 of Ndoki people continue being answerable to Umuahia and Aba politically , the Igbo identity crisis will never take roof there.

Sprumbabafather:


That will be a humble pie too great to chew. I don't see any way in the next 100 years Ikwerre people can move back to the Igbo mainstream. They will need to exhume a lot of ghosts to do that, especially the abandoned property ghost.

cumbak60:

Access to the sea is important, but one cannot over rule the act of genuine repentance. An Ikwerre guy is one of the admin of Proudly Rivers Proudly Igbos, and their objective is to unite the entire Igbo speaking groups in Rivers State...
Some of them understood the Nigerian politics of divide and rule, and are working with a sincere mind to correct these errors. In my opinion, its important we leave the door of genuine reconciliation open. Blood is ticker than water. Onye'aghale nwaneya.
My opinion though.

cumbak60:

Access to the sea is important, but one cannot over rule the act of genuine repentance. An Ikwerre guy is one of the admin of Proudly Rivers Proudly Igbos, and their objective is to unite the entire Igbo speaking groups in Rivers State...
Some of them understood the Nigerian politics of divide and rule, and are working with a sincere mind to correct these errors. In my opinion, its important we leave the door of genuine reconciliation open. Blood is ticker than water. Onye'aghale nwaneya.
My opinion though.

cumbak60:

The Ikwerres were not involved in the abandoned properties saga, rather the Ijaws. Get your facts right. Are you aware that some of them also lost out in the event?

Amarabae:

NEVER, they are gone forever,
Igbos should move on,
the insults are too much

Sprumbabafather:


Really?

humblenature:
TRUE. IKWERRE ARE NOT IGBO. NOT INDUSTROUS, NO CULTURE, DONT VALUE MARRIAGE, DONT KNOW BUSINESS, DO NOT TRAVEL LIKE IGBOS(INFACT ITS A PHOBIA), VERY LAZY, DONT HAVE INGENUITY, LACK INDUSTRY, (GIVE AN IKWERE MAN 100 NAIRA AND HE WILL NEVER THINK OF ANYTHING THAN BITTLE BEER, ASHAWO OR NAIRABET).LACK EDUCATION, INFACT THERE IS NO TRAIT OF IGBO D.N.A IN AN IKWERE MAN

cumbak60:

Access to the sea is important, but one cannot over rule the act of genuine repentance. An Ikwerre guy is one of the admin of Proudly Rivers Proudly Igbos, and their objective is to unite the entire Igbo speaking groups in Rivers State...
Some of them understood the Nigerian politics of divide and rule, and are working with a sincere mind to correct these errors. In my opinion, its important we leave the door of genuine reconciliation open. Blood is ticker than water. Onye'aghale nwaneya.
My opinion though.

humblenature:
TRUE. IKWERRE ARE NOT IGBO. NOT INDUSTROUS, NO CULTURE, DONT VALUE MARRIAGE, DONT KNOW BUSINESS, DO NOT TRAVEL LIKE IGBOS(INFACT ITS A PHOBIA), VERY LAZY, DONT HAVE INGENUITY, LACK INDUSTRY, (GIVE AN IKWERE MAN 100 NAIRA AND HE WILL NEVER THINK OF ANYTHING THAN BOTTLE BEER, ASHAWO OR NAIRABET).LACK EDUCATION, INFACT THERE IS NO TRAIT OF IGBO D.N.A IN AN IKWERE MAN ..GOD PURNIISH IKWERE PEOPLE.

humblenature:
TRUE. IKWERRE ARE NOT IGBO. NOT INDUSTROUS, NO CULTURE, DONT VALUE MARRIAGE, DONT KNOW BUSINESS, DO NOT TRAVEL LIKE IGBOS(INFACT ITS A PHOBIA), VERY LAZY, DONT HAVE INGENUITY, LACK INDUSTRY, (GIVE AN IKWERE MAN 100 NAIRA AND HE WILL NEVER THINK OF ANYTHING THAN BOTTLE BEER, ASHAWO OR NAIRABET).LACK EDUCATION, INFACT THERE IS NO TRAIT OF IGBO D.N.A IN AN IKWERE MAN ..GOD PURNIISH IKWERE PEOPLE.

pazienza:


Is the admin of that group not the Egbema Rivers state guy by the name Ofiafuluagu? Is he an Ikwerre? I don't think so.
Unless he isn't the admin.
How many Ikwerres are in that group, cos mind you, I'm a member of that group too. The view Ikwrrres there only come there to bash ele isoma greedy people who came to steal their land.

Please, I will pass. A good friend is better than a bad brother who doesn't recognize brotherhood.

I respect the view Ikwerre honest people out there, we should accept them in our midst and even offer them posts, but our outlook towards Ikwerre as a group shouldn't be tainted by emotional non existent brotherhood, it should be strictly a pragmatic approach where Ikwerre should be considered a distinct group out for it on interest.

We work with them if our interests align, nothing more, nothing less.

Again, my own opinion.

Amarabae:
Ikwerres are not Igbos,
i dont see them as one,
Igbo identity is not for sale, i will rather choose Igbos aligning with yorubas than with any "igbo clan" that deny their Igbo root.

Obi1kenobi:


Stop spewing hateful, childish nonsense like this. It's the easiest thing in the world to insult any tribe of people. It's not an achievement.

Igbos are hardly a homogeneous group of people. What does an Idemili man have in common with an Enugu-Ezike man that he doesn't have with an Ikwerre man?

Freemancipation:


You will always find anti Igbo elements in ikwerre land. I am not delusional about it but just like you like to highlight those that are anti Igbo, it is also important to give audience to those that are pro igbos.

The man said that his father is a king and was one of the three kings approached by the white man for land purchase. I don't know why he would lie about that.

pazienza:
Where in Ikwerre is the man from?

Is he really a king?
I watched the video and only got his name : Chief Richard Mgbechikwere Dike, LGA - Obio Akpor.

I didn't get the name of his Ikwerre community, and it would appear he is a Chief and not an Eze, so you might need to recaption your thread.

Btw, there are tons of anti Igbo you tube videos from Ikwerre persons out there, the latest being those of Celestine Omehia at the recent Ikwerre national convention in USA.
The likes of this Chief Dike are in the minority in Ikwerre, the majority and mainstream Ikwerre are hooked on the Bini origin and anti Igbo dope.
And would likely dismiss this Dike as an Aro man whose ancestors took root in Ikwerre.

I'm totally tired of this Ikwerre ish, and would be happy if my people would just let this issue be and move on.

Sprumbabafather:


Or opening spare parts shop in Oshogbo , for human parts

konoplyanka:
something must be really wrong with igbos that make them to blame others for their woes. they keep blaming Hausa foolanis and Yoruba for ikwere denial of being igbo. one even wrote that they were threatened. how could someone be threatened or paid to deny his heritage.

something must be wrong with you guys upstairs.

the truth is people will try to create an identity for themselves in other to get some political advantage in this Nigeria. a saraki will deny Yoruba in other to get to the presidency. I will not blame anybody for his political serpentary.the itshekiri would like to create an identity for themselves for political bargaining an. isoko would like to be seen as different from urhobo.

all these things were different in like 100 years ago.

BabaRamota1980:


Two people make Ibo
- wawa
-ngwa

Everyone else of the Ibo speaking peoples have roots either in Igala, Bini or the progenitor at Ife, Yoruba. Cest finis!

Sprumbabafather:


Please tell us what made Illorin and Offa indigenes to be Hausas and why Adeleke was denied governorship just because he is not North enough

Now go back to solve your problems.

mpianya39:


Or skull gadgets that will determine if the skull gat two eyes or one eyes before making payment

Obi1kenobi:
To be honest, I'm not sure why people are bothered by it. In a quest for land and resource control, their elders for decades have successfully fed the Ikwerre masses a steady diet of Igbophobia and they are well indoctrinated in it. Self-determination of their identity is their inalienable right. Continuing the dispute over their identity only feeds their fears of Igbo imposition and dominance as well as feeding their feelings of self-importance. If Ikwerres were an Igboid group in poor, rural communities in Benue or Ebonyi denying their Igbo heritage, we wouldn't give a shiiit, and they'll be less likely to to aggressively deny their Igboid roots in the irrational fear we want to steal their land and "oyel".

Props to the political foresight of the North. We love to insult the Northerners as illiterates, but their deft political manoeuvres have successfully balkanized the East of the country. This division in the South is why the North will continue to be the dominant political players in Nigeria.

Tkester:



Shut de eff-up! you disrupter