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| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 9:35pm On Sep 03, 2017 |
obixcel:Real Americans are with their president 100 percent |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 9:41pm On Sep 03, 2017 |
Abbeybailey:Here you go again blaming hillary campaign staff. Did she punish or caution the staff?. She did not even rebuke the staff she just ran with it until the she lost the primaries.. But here is my qusetion. If Trump was racist why did they give him an award for his services to the black community |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 9:44pm On Sep 03, 2017 |
Abbeybailey:Trust me. You will be so dissapointed with mueller's outcome it will hit you like the elections all over again.. Dont get ur hopes up |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:47pm On Sep 03, 2017 |
stanech:Each time they come up with Birtherism and those facts are thrown to them they always come up with same very excuse. Their tongues had been stuck right up Hillary's ass . Remember, they were "with her" ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:49pm On Sep 03, 2017 |
stanech:oh! They are still hoping on Mueller? The Russian hoax is dead and they ain't doing no sh*t. Let them keep waiting. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by rakish(m): 12:38am On Sep 04, 2017 |
Timbuktuo:Oh! So the Pentagon was trying to release an airstrike at North Korea? Then Trump should thank God the media released the information, it would have been Trumps worst decision yet. The Pentagon will be unwise to attack North Korea only a preemptive or counter one. If you don't know the importance of investigative journalism, then you should settle in North Korea where any news going out must pass through Pyongyang. 90percent of news about Trump and his staff turns out true. We saw Micheal Flynn fired, Trump jnr Russia scandal, Paul Manafort and many others secret dealings and romance with Russia. Ha, if you think the Russia scandal is over, take a backseat you haven't been following. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 7:03am On Sep 04, 2017*. Modified: 6:46pm On Sep 04, 2017 |
Keith Schiller, the man who delivered the Comey firing letter, is out of the the White House. This is a man who's been Trump's CSO for 13years. LoL! |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 7:38am On Sep 04, 2017 |
@stanech obixcel What have you to say about this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-obama-wiretap-claim-no-evidence-tweets-department-of-justice-a7926561.html |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:22pm On Sep 04, 2017 |
President Trump wins big on DACA, Scraps program, refers it to the Legislature for a permanent fix. This is a smart move by Trump, doing what Obama should have done in the first place -working with Congress. He could have ended it with a stroke of a pen but chose the honourable path. Good of him. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:49am On Sep 05, 2017 |
LordReed:Basically, the surreal debate has gone like this: MEDIA: Trump lied about Obama wiretapping Trump Tower. REALITY: How do you know that? MEDIA: Well, for starters, Obama can’t leave the White House without us knowing. REALITY: I don’t think Trump literally meant that Barry pulled a Tom Cruise and used wire-fu to place literal wiretaps. MEDIA: Trump’s own Justice Department Justice just said there were no wiretaps. REALITY: Again, I don’t think Trump meant literal wiretaps. He obviously meant surveillance. MEDIA: He said “wiretaps.” He’s a liar. REALITY: Are you aware that the modern definition of “wiretaps” no longer means “the traditional term for interception of telephone conversations,” but rather surveillance of cell phones and almost all electronic means of conversation? MEDIA: Trump said wiretap! He said WIRETAP!!! HE SAID WIRETAP!!!!!!!!!! REALITY: Are you also aware that the New York Times used the exact word “wiretap” in a headline to describe the Obama administration’s surveillance of Team Trump? MEDIA: Shut up, Nazi. Over the weekend, the media’s avoidance of this inconvenient truth was resurrected when the Justice Department released a report stating that there is no evidence of any literal wiretaps placed by the Obama administration in Trump Tower. So, this seems like the perfect time to remind everyone of the 12 times the very same media that is now lying about this, did in fact tell us that the Obama administration did in fact (using the modern definition) wiretap Team Trump. In chronological order [emphasis mine throughout]… 1. The (now defunct) Heat Street – November 7, 2016 EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia. If you are wondering who Heat Street is and why you should care, just know that the New York Times re-published this information in March — you know, the information that the Obama administration spied on Team Trump. 2. The Guardian – January 11, 2017 The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation. 3. The New York Times – January 12, 2017 In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections. The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches. Note the timing of “in the final days of the Obama administration.” As I wrote at the Daily Wire back in March (where I first published this list): “This is the most important piece of the puzzle, because it explains how the media was getting all of its scoops via leaks via surveillance.” 4. The BBC – January 17, 2017 Lawyers from the National Security Division in the [Obama] Department of Justice then drew up an application. They took it to the secret US court that deals with intelligence, the Fisa court, named after the Foreign intelligence Surveillance Act. They wanted permission to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks. Their first application, in June, was rejected outright by the judge. They returned with a more narrowly drawn order in July and were rejected again. Finally, before a new judge, the order was granted, on 15 October, three weeks before election day. Neither Mr Trump nor his associates are named in the Fisa order, which would only cover foreign citizens or foreign entities – in this case the Russian banks. But ultimately, the investigation is looking for transfers of money from Russia to the United States, each one, if proved, a felony offence. A lawyer – outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case – told me that three of Mr. Trump’s associates were the subject of the inquiry. “But it’s clear this is about Trump,” he said. 5. McClatchy – January 18, 2017 The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the [Obama] Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said. … A key mission of the six-agency group has been to examine who financed the email hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. The London-based transparency group WikiLeaks released the emails last summer and in October. The working group is scrutinizing the activities of a few Americans who were affiliated with Trump’s campaign or his business empire and of multiple individuals from Russia and other former Soviet nations. The BBC reported that the FBI had obtained a warrant on Oct. 15 from the highly secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing investigators access to bank records and other documents about potential payments and money transfers related to Russia. One of McClatchy’s sources confirmed the report. 6. The New York Times – Jan 19, 2017 Print headline: “Wiretapped Data Used In Inquiry of Trump Aides” … The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House. Yes, that’s right, the Times used WIRETAP in its headline and in its story. 7. The Washington Post – February 9, 2017 National security adviser Michael Flynn privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office, contrary to public assertions by Trump officials, current and former U.S. officials said. Flynn’s communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were interpreted by some senior U.S. officials as an inappropriate and potentially illegal signal to the Kremlin that it could expect a reprieve from sanctions that were being imposed by the Obama administration in late December to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 election. Flynn’s communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were interpreted [.] 8. CNN – February 14, 2017 The New York Times quickly matched the story and said there was a transcript of the discussions. This is CNN celebrating Flynn being taken down by a transcript of a phone call that the New York Times reported on in a story that used the word “wiretap” under a headline that declared it a “wiretap.” 9. NBC News – February 10, 2017 A U.S. intelligence official briefed on the matter confirmed to NBC News that National Security Advisor Mike Flynn discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador before Flynn took office[.] The official said he was told there was no quid pro quo and that there has been no finding inside the government that Flynn did anything illegal. … Flynn spoke to Kislyak on Dec. 29, the same day the sanctions were announced. Oh, yes, NBC News was well aware of the fact that the Obama administration was listening in on Flynn’s calls. And as you will read below, so was the AP, ABC and CBS. 10. The Associated Press – February 13, 2017 Two people familiar with the situation say the Justice Department warned the Trump administration about Michael Flynn’s contacts with Russia. One of the people says the Justice Department told the administration there was a discrepancy between what the White House was saying publicly about Flynn’s contacts and the facts of what occurred. 11. ABC News – February 13, 2017 Embattled National Security Adviser Michael Flynn called Vice President Mike Pence Friday to apologize for misleading him about a conversation with the Russian ambassador to the United States, according to a senior White House official. 12. CBS News – February 10, 2017 Investigators believe that President Trump’s national security adviser, Michael Flynn, privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia in a phone call with a Russian official, law enforcement sources told CBS News on Friday. Multiple sources told CBS News’ Jeff Pegues and Pat Milton that the conversation occurred before Mr. Trump took office and, if true, could be a violation of protocol and could be viewed as a violation of the law. Before Trump blew up the truth about Barry’s spying and turned it into a liability, as you can see above, everyone in the media was not only openly admitting that the Obama administration spied on Team Trump, they were bragging about how awesome it was. In a nutshell, here is what happened… 1) Believing Hillary would win, the Obama administration brazenly spied on Team Trump. You see, if Hillary won, they would never get caught. The goal was to personally (and falsely) destroy Trump as a Russian spy after he lost. Why? To destroy his powerful coalition. Duh. 2) The media knew the Obama administration had “wiretapped” Trump because they were the ones benefiting from selective leaks that could only come from monitored phone calls. 3) When Trump unexpectedly won the election, the media and the Obama administration simply launched the phony Russian narrative anyway. 4) Without thinking it through, the media openly reported on how their super-awesome Barry had busted Trump as a Manchurian candidate, cuz super-awesome Barry did some super-awesome spying cuz he’s super-awesome. But, this blew up in everyone’s face when… 5) Trump accurately accused Obama of (the modern definition of) wiretapping, and blew the lid wide open on Barry’s horrific and un-American behavior. 6) So now, the media lies about and covers up Barry’s spying by hiding behind the hyper-literal and outdated definition of “wiretap,” even though on 12 different occasions the MSM proudly reported on Barry’s wiretapping — even though the New York Times actually (and accurately) called it wiretapping. Good thing the Internet … and the truth … are forever. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:56am On Sep 05, 2017 |
Picture of the Day ![]()
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| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:58am On Sep 05, 2017 |
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| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 12:42pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
obixcel:Lets recap Trump's on words on the matter: How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy! This indicated a personal wiretap of Donald Trump himself which as evidence has shown did not happen. All this long grammar you posted is an attempt to conflate issues. Donald Trump did not say oh my aides and surrogates were wiretapped, he said my phones. This is what we've got to expect, attempts to reinterpret reality so that what Donald Trump said is not what Donald Trump meant but what his supporters interpret it to mean. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by rakish(m): 1:53pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
LordReed:You can never win an argument with fools. That's the truth. They will keep bringing their foolish argument to thwart your logical one. I have since lost hope on them. Thanks for the logical explanation though. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Abbeybailey(m): 3:23pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
rakish:Gbam. You nailed it. Both Stanech and Obi are the worst of the Orange a*s lickers on Nairaland. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 3:38pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
rakish:Gbam... a fool is king ia fools world |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 5:18pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
DACA RESCINDED OBAMA LIED DESPITE KNOWING DACA WAS ILLEGAL...WATCH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw4BIWiWyQg&t=9s |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Abbeybailey(m): 7:16pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
obixcel:The problem with you and your ilks is that you love to throw yourself into the happenings in America where you don't have a clue. DACA was not illegally executed by Obama. He used his executive power to implement DACA because the Congress can't agree on how to go about reforming immigration with about 12 millions undocumented aliens. It's just trump and the AG Sessions showing their racist self. The 800.000 Dreamers affected by DACA were brought into America by their parents as young children. Some of them were brought in as young as few months old. The only country they know is America and in America, we don't punish children for the crime of parents. Your mind must be so Fvcked up for you to think you can just put your stinking trap in things you have no clue. Go back to your tribal section and spout your garbage there. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by rakish(m): 7:40pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Abbeybailey:A logical explanation once again. DACA is not a law or an act created by OBAMA. It is an executive order by 44th after Congress failed to make a law regarding it for about 16years now. If the executive order was unconstitutional, states and private persons were at liberty then to go to court which no one did or the action failed. Why did Texas threatened to go to court through a letter sent to Trump after he was elected if he didn't rescind it? The only problem was that DACA was an executive order and can be trashed out by the next president. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Abbeybailey(m): 7:50pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
rakish:Absolutely but a know nothing a*s licker like the clownish Obi will come here and spout his garbage. An executive order can be undone by the next president and that's what the racist trump did through his racist AG. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:43pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
obixcel:You have people in this country for 20 years, they’ve done a great job, they’ve done wonderfully, they’ve gone to school ... they’re productive – now we’re supposed to send them out of the country?' - Donald Trump, 2011 |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Abbeybailey(m): 9:03pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
LordReed:Double speak is the hallmark of the clueless trump. It was just last week trump told reporters that he love the Dreamers but now he wants to send them packing to countries they know nothing about. What a shamelessly bigoted guy trump is. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 9:09pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
I think they should be granted permanent stay here and then anyone coming in 2017 should be sent back just as Trump said in 2011. |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 9:10pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
LordReed:Exept that they are illegals |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 9:11pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
armyofone:Well then let congress work on that |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 9:12pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
obixcel:Obama lied about so many things. Remember you can keep your doctor? |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 9:13pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 9:13pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
armyofone:I agree with this DACA people should be allowed to stay. They dont know any other country. In My opinion a child brought to America and has lived in America since 1-2yrs till 18yrs and above is more American than the child born in America and taken away to grow up elsewhere. Now returned at 20 to come and live, vote and decide for a country he/she barely knows about. These kids brought from say Mexico by their parents when they were infants some of them dont even know anything about Mexico, All they know is America and they should be allowed to stay |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 9:18pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Yeah they should and leave them alone. The crooks should be deported not dreamers who are productive and hard working. stanech: |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 9:21pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Well said Dayo!!! raumdeuter: |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 9:29pm On Sep 05, 2017*. Modified: 10:38pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
armyofone:Omoge Hauwa Hows that place treating you? Are they shipping you off to North Korea ? |
| Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:45pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
stanech:That was a smart move. Let them get to work and seek out a long term solution. |
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