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SHTFguy:
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What of the Yorubas who denied that those killed were not corpers?

What of the Yorubas who forgot the hate and divisive speech that their messiah made in 2011 that led to the killings of these corpers but still went all out to campaign and vote for him just 4yrs later?

The SS/SE have been consistent with their rejection of this bigot and so you ought to ask why Yorubas went back to their vomit?

Was it not to spite the better south and from where they thought they could somehow wrestle power from the daft Buhari?

Tell yourself the truth, without Yoruba betrayal and one man's l(Tinubu) lust for power, there is no way in hell that Buhari would have been elected.

Yorubas fcked up real bad in 2015 and are still fcking up by defending this same useless govt[/s]

Deedeedee4:
YOU CAN NEVER MAKE A COMMENT WITHOUT MENTIONING AFONJA. IBO MAN, ARE YOU CURSED?

stanluiz:
Guy I blamed gej for buhari president. Jonathan was very weak and coward he supposed to arrest buhari after that his statement that lead to pro election violence that wasted innocent lives and property. He supposed to arrest him and charge him for treason and jail him or send him into exile.

hollah123:
they are in every nook and cranny of the world because theres virtually nothing in there so called 5 biafra state, ask yourself what do south east add to Nigeria? u people are just overestimating your Worth my take

julietm123:
All yorubads live in yorubad land. The 5south east state contributes nothing but any time you hear Biafra, you started weeing on your pants. What do you have in osogbo, abeokuta, Ibadan, akure and the rest? Nothing, all sleepy towns.
Don't mention Lagos cos it was a former federal capital. If I call Lagos no man's land now you start crying. Abeg shift.

mayorchelsea:
Sorry,the OP who posted it here is Yoruba.I didn't know.You talk about hate?Do I possess so much hate as your god Kanu who brandishes insults at a tribe all in the name of agitation for a sovereign state?Is he a Yorubad Muslim too?Pls don't mention me again.

zionmde:
and wat makes u think i ever supported buhari

hibeekay007:
tbh, these igbos are just bunch of idiots. y'all keep hauling abusive words at yorubas, yet most of y"all live and work in Lagos, pay your hard earned money to the Lagos state government in form of taxes, in the process bettering the state. why can't y'all take your dump asses to your Anambra, imo, enugu etc?. useless mofos

wirinet:
Yorubas should ask, What is the essence of this thread? Does IPOB now love Yorubas so much that they are still reeling from the pain of a Yoruba boy murdered by Hausa Fulani mob 7 years ago?
An Uche who said this;

a couple of years ago, is now crying over a Seun that was murdered in 2011.

It is cruel for someone to use someone else's tragedy to score cheap political points. There had been many of the OP's fellow brothers that had been murdered by Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen and even his own people (50 mystery bodies float on Anambra river

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/01/50-mystery-bodies-float-on-anambra-river/ ), the OP is oblivious of these, but is obsessed with a Yoruba boy murdered by "Buhari's supporters"

hollah123:
have u ever been to ogun, osun, or out b4? go n check the latest details they posted the other time concerning how much revenue each state add to federal government pocket. OGUN n oyo has the fastest growing economy n i believe u know dat. all what the 5 Eastern states add to Nigeria is not up to what oyo n OGUN adds to Nigeria. b4 u argue Abeg check all these things on Google abeg.

julietm123:
Poor English student that is what you are. Read to understand. I suppose Osewa is Itsekiri and I still suppose so. Seun being an Egba man is what I am not sure of. You can take a gun and kill yourself if you feel so pained by my assumption. Ntoor

julietm123:
Is the op Igbo?

julietm123:
I am not checking anything on goggle.i have lived in Ibadan though years ago. I have also been to abeokuta and osogbo. There is nothing there. You speak as if this towns are modern cities with skyscrapers and a teeming populace.goodbye.

Dindondin:
you v your point.
But why is the north so radical that they don't know who to lynch except innocent corpers?
Can't they protest peacefully or match to Aso Rock in 2011?
Mr Man, am from the west.
PMB looks like a man that has sentiments of his people. He goofed in 2011. Also, Baboon & Dogs speech was said in 2011, not 2013.

UnchangeableGod:
Sir, I don't know about 'dog and baboon matter' because I don't understand Hausa but the issue of 97% versus 5% was spoken in English and I understand that. Hate Speech is not good. In fact it is a sin. But it also a sin to preach against what one practises by words or deeds. It is a sin to shortchange a people, show that you do not like them by your body language in areas of appointments, projects and selective injustice and yet threaten them if they talk against your injustice or talk about being on their own, tagging it 'hate speech'. Of course, no one complains of injustice laughing. So refusal to correct what is making people angry yet accusing them of hate speech for voicing out, is a sin. It is simply hypocrisy. Thanks.

ItsMeAboki:
Oga, if you really can read and understand English very well as you implied; then you should have understood why I challenged anyone to prove that Buhari meant he would discriminate against any section of the country in his famous 97% vs 5% speech.

That notion was in fact an absolute big lie, a deliberate fabrication and misrepresentation of the president by his detractors.
Anyone with the patience to listen/read the entire speech/transcript (from A - Z) would easily come to the conclusion that his enemies merely took out only the first part of his speech containing the 97% and 5% and essentially twisted and quoted it out of context to give it the opposite meaning; while completely leaving out the middle and concluding part containing the president's true intended message.

It is a pity that many ppl are far too lazy to listen and judge the entire speech for themselves but instead blindly relying on this fat lie and propaganda against the president.

It is also a pity that the mainstream southern owned media (who should have known better) are also shamelessly part and parcel of this propaganda.

It is even more pitiful that the president's image makers have so far not done sufficiently enough to debunk this damaging myth and therefore abort its malicious propagation.

Like I said before; I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

UnchangeableGod:
Sorry, you are the one typing rubbish. I listened to the interview. What middle and concluding part are you referring to? That the president said the constitution mandates him to appoint a minister from each state, as such he cannot marginalise any region even if he intends to? Meaning that he grudgingly appointed ministers from certain States because the constitution forces him to do so? If that is not what he meant, what about his other appointments so far? Have they not been skewed in favour of the 97% regions and shown his distain for those from the 5% regions? His media men could not do anything about this though Mr Femi Adeshina attempted to. It was medicine after death because it was said to an international media. To be candid, the president of a heterogeneous country like Nigeria has no business making such divisive speeches, not in Nigeria but in far away United States. The funniest part of a the whole scenario is that this question was about his plans for the restive Niger Delta, not even on voting pattern since elections were over and a new government in place. It was not about which region he would favour more than others. The journalist thought she was interviewing a Nigerian president, not knowing she was actually interviewing a 'northern' president. Is that not hate speech to say that as a president, you will not treat everyone equally because of how people voted? The majority of the national cake is even from the same 5% region. Hate speech is wrong, is evil, is dangerous but this present government has no moral authority to preach against hate speeches. They need to apologize first, show good examples and then we might take them serious. From your moniker, you are an Aboki. But let us put ethnic sentiments aside and say the truth so that it will set us free. Thank you.

hollah123:
if life was Dat good in the dungeon u call biafra u won't b looking for greener pastures in zoo

SHTFguy:
I never denied that dieziani is a thief.

Who in govt has never stolen both past and present? To deny that dieziani stole is a big lie.

I only stated the incredulous amount falsely attributed to her by the propaganda devils in the APC and how it was nothing but a ghost chase.

If the corruption index is to be taken seriously then why is Nigeria under Chanji still recording very low on transparency and anti corruption?

Think for once

ihatesycophant:
The question is, who are presiding officers of our elections? For now corps members are presiding officers and they are the ones being used to rig election at pooling units when they know it would be difficult at the collation center.
The Killing is partially caused by our judiciary, if the judiciary have been up and doing, no one would want to take lay into his/her hand, instead they sometimes sell justice to highest bidder. Same unrest would have played out of Kenyans had know hope on its judiciary. The judiciary should try and up their game and put justice rightly.
Again the accredited words of monkey and baboon will soak in blood by Buhari was said in 2012 and not 2011 or 2013. I erroneously entered 2013 instead of 2012. Check the news here
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/05/2015-ll-be-bloody-if-buhari/
try and read his statement and what informed these words.

Dindondin:
I agree on the year PMB spoke abt baboon & dog issue.
But you are wrong for justifying the killings of corners because some of them were used for electoral frauds in 2011 elections.
The corpers that did electoral frauds doesn't deserve death. More so, not all corpers took part in the fraud. So... How is attacking corpers justified?
Why didn't the northern mobs storm INEC offices, state govt house or their opposition party's (PDP) members? Why the innocent Seun, Nkechi, Ebube etc that came for NYSC in Katsina & Bauchi States?
Don't justify evil for evil. The failure of the judiciary &, electorates should not be avenged on corpers but on the FG.
Those northern mobs of 2011 are cowards! They attacked the weak!
Mr man, don't justify the brutality of the Northern electoral mobs of 2011. It's pure wickedness. The northern Nigeria is volatile as a result of poverty, hate speeches & preachings they receive from their Imams & Political leaders.

julietm123:
Only you called Biafra a dungeon, only you are against Biafra secession. Abeg get a life.

ItsMeAboki:
Just stick to the issue at hand, which is about the content and intent of the president's (97% vs 5%) speech.
Here is the transcript of the speech; and if you are a good student of English Comprehension; then lets see how you or anyone can twist what he said and give it an entirely opposite meaning - just be honest for once.

Below is the text of the president’s statement in question. The ones in bold is the part that was deliberately left out.

“I hope you have a copy of the election results. Literally constituencies, for example, that gave me 97 per cent, cannot in all honesty be treated, on some issues, [the same way as] some constituencies that gave me five per cent. I think these are political realities.
While certainly there will be justice for everybody; everybody will enjoy their constitutional rights, where the party in constituencies that by either sheer hard work made sure they got their people [to vote] and ensure their votes count, they must feel that the government has appreciated the effort they put in putting the government in place. I think this is really fair.
[But] By the constitution, no state can be excluded from government, so there is no way even if I were to show gratitude to those constituencies that voted heavily for me against those that didn’t even vote for me, they have the protection of the government. And I have made an undertaking that I belong to everybody, I belong to no body. If I come clearly and marginalise a certain group because they didn’t vote for me then I have already contradicted myself and I am sure people will be quick to pick that against me.”

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Here is also the video clip for those who want hear directly from the horse's mouth and not rely on the above transcript.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm_VEkxyiKw

Now lets analyse the entire speech: you will notice that the first part containing the 97% vs 5% merely lays the foundation concerning the expected political realities and norms of rewarding those who voted for you - i.e. that was what usually happens after such victory.

The middle part of his speech allayed the fears of anyone with such anticipation by referring the protection of the constitution.

The final and concluding part of his speech clearly spelt out his own intention on what he intended to do - which was NOT TO MARGINALISE ANYBODY by referring to his earlier quote of belonging to nobody and belonging to everybody.

How anyone could be so pathetically dumb to miss or misinterpret his clear message is amazingly shocking to say the least.

ihatesycophant:
Have said umpteen time in this forum that it was satanic and unlawful for any one to have taken law into one's hand and kill another person in any disguise. However, individual mentality to issues quite different. Anger and frustration management of individual varies. The way Mr. A would stomach issue, Mr. B may find it difficult to do so. Have we not seen a well intelligent person do things ordinarily you never expected. That's individuals differences. That's how it happened across board. Hope you heard the killing of Nigerians in South Africa? Is it also Hausa or Fulani killing them? No, that's to tell you madness exist everywhere if not properly managed. Was there no killing in Rivers state, Akwa Ibom and other part of the country in 2015? Until we learn to play the game according to the rule, we'll continue to experience such not only in Nigeria but all over the world. Until judiciary up their game and make people have high hope in them that justice and fairness can be gotten from them even if temporarily lost, people may continue to take law into their hands.
Same would have happened in Kenya if not by the intervention of their judiciary. Why would the number that voted less than the result announced. All these birth unrest and make people take law into their hands.
You guys should also stop using 2011 killing as a pointer, political killings dated back the first dispensation and not limited to 2011. Funnily, it was even more high in 2015 than any other times but no one talk about it because it was less in the north. Or shall we say, the people killed during election in the north their lives are more sacrosanct than those killed in the south. You guys need to respect the sanctity of life everywhere it happens and talk about it and not limit it to a section.

Deedeedee4:
IBO MAN, GET OVER THE 2015 GENERAL ELECTION. IT HAS BEEN OVER 2 YEARS.

sikells:
stronger?... only because the south is divided, talking about population self.. from last census at 2006, when Nigeria was still around 140m,
Overall, the North leads with a total population of 75,025,166 while the South follows with 64,978,376, the north also has a larger percentage of older population. Let's all quit hate speeches, peace and tranquility is priceless.

UnchangeableGod:
First and foremost, the 'reality' of treating some constituencies better because they voted for you is out of the question. It is only vindictive people who do so. Olusegun Obasanjo did not do so against the Southwest after the 1999 elections, Goodluck Jonathan did not apply this philosophy against the North after the 2011 elections in spite of northern protests and mayhem. Secondly, a leader is a leader of all after elections. It is not just the constitution that should force a leader to be fair to all and prove opponents wrong. Thirdly, the actions of the president so far in terms of appointments really contradicts his 'I belong to all' rhetorics. He has shown that he belongs firstly to the Muslims, to the North and the APC in that order before other Nigerians. Action, they say, speaks louder than words. Thanks.

ItsMeAboki:
The reality is that you and your ilk stubbornly choose to block your minds from accepting the truth in preference to all shades of your own propaganda and prejudices.

Apparently, such trait is inline with the typical Igbo mindset which is more comfortable stuck in the victim's mode where it can feed from an innate sense of persecution that manifests in their natural propensity for quarrelsomeness and endless wailing against phantom cheating and marginalisation.

Its a pity because no one can compete with a fixated mindset that only accepts what it wants to believe even against incontrovertible evidence.

After having successfully just debunked this calculated malicious lie against the president you conveniently switched to yet another one which it too had already been severally debunked - for the last time get this clear; THE PRESIDENT NEVER SAID HE WOULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THOSE THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM NOR HAD HE SINCE BEEN FACTUALLY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THEM - stop believing and spreading these lies, the facts are out there and verifiable to anyone who isn't lazy to investigate.

cstr1000:
Look at the pattern of appointments and project allocation of the buhari administration- is that a proof that he was misconstrued? Have you not heard that actions speak louder than words.?
They don't even deny that he is bigoted in his appointment anymore- the excuse nowadays is that the SE didn't vote for him, kept all their eggs in one basket and so does not deserve much from him.
You are making people angry.

Dindondin:
OK. You v spoken well. Life is important, be it killings in the north or south. But are condemnable.

ItsMeAboki:
The reality is that you and your ilk stubbornly choose to block your minds from accepting the truth in preference to all shades of your own propaganda and prejudices.

Apparently, such trait is inline with the typical Igbo mindset which is more comfortable stuck in the victim's mode where it can feed from an innate sense of persecution that manifests in their natural propensity for quarrelsomeness and endless wailing against phantom cheating and marginalisation.

Its a pity because no one can compete with a fixated mindset that only accepts what it wants to believe even against incontrovertible evidence.

After having successfully just debunked this calculated malicious lie against the president you conveniently switched to yet another one which it too had already been severally debunked - for the last time get this clear; THE PRESIDENT NEVER SAID HE WOULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THOSE THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM NOR HAD HE SINCE BEEN FACTUALLY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THEM - stop believing and spreading these lies, the facts are out there and verifiable to anyone who isn't lazy to investigate.