₦airaland Forum

mr1759:
Hausa want to make Igbo lost identity. how can the whole country watch this ppl do this to a race

in nigeria we av three major tribes..
if two of the three tribes collaborate to treat the other tribe, this is wat happens


its sad but its the truth.

MayorofLagos:
You did not answer the question I asked. You asserted that good parents should give solid upbringing but in any case where the children act with mischief the onus is on that parent to intervene and show responsibility. You see Ohanaeze as a bad parent for failing to rein Ipob in.

No parent has stepped forward to intervene and arrest bad behavior of fulani. Correct? Why not?

And i recognized that. My answer: When IPOBs heat is down, that will also be dealt with. It's a plan.

These fulani animals again.

benuejosh:
And i recognized that. My answer: When IPOBs heat is down, that will also be dealt with. It's a plan.

I believe your initial assertion about the tacit support of ohaneze to ipob is misplaced considering the fact that you stand on the side of Ango Abdullahi who as a fulani elder, a scholar and a Northern mainstream influence, skipped over a more deadly and broader
National threat to go focus on a regional threat.

Compared with fulani, how many people in Benue has Ipob killed?

What rubbish! Blame northern elders for the quit notice and hate song. Soldiers should have been deployed there too

MayorofLagos:
I believe your initial assertion about the tacit support of ohaneze to ipob is misplaced considering the fact that you stand on the side of Ango Abdullahi who as a fulani elder, a scholar and a Northern mainstream influence, skipped over a more deadly and broader
National threat to go focus on a regional threat.

Compared with fulani, how many people in Benue has Ipob killed?

Zero! But remember, The issue of Ipob has a general threat to national unity and peace which also has a direct impact on you whose intend would last longer compared to the killings of locals by herdsmen. If Herdsmens killing of locals (farmers) were intentionally ignored, it has now become a wake up call to other national issues been swept under carpet for a long time using Ipod as a point of contact. No doubt, Ango has also shot himself to the foot. His message is also direct to himself. A stone will be used to kill two birds. But for the present, i suggest we deal with IPOB then face the herdsmen.

benuejosh:
Zero! But remember, The issue of Ipob has a general threat to national unity and peace which also has a direct impact on you whose intend would last longer compared to the killings of locals by herdsmen. If Herdsmens killing of locals (farmers) were intentionally ignored, it has now become a wake up call to other national issues been swept under carpet for a long time using Ipod as a point of contact. No doubt, Ango has also shot himself to the foot. His message is also direct to himself. A stone will be used to kill two birds. But for the present, i suggest we deal with IPOB then face the herdsmen.

IPOB stands on a legal and legitimate cause, which is demand for Biafran sovereingty and self-rule. There is nothing illegal about their demand.

Much as I hate anything with Ibo, I also detest anything with fulani. Nonetheless, neither of them is totally useless and a waste. The issue of IPOB in particular is a wakeup call but moreso the response and reactions to it from North is despicable. Is North the only people threatened by IPOB? Is North the only region in Nigeria that loves this country? Where else in this country, beside North, and outside the period of civil war, has Ibo been massacred in this country?

This militarized response to IPOB is barbaric, however, most people rejoice at it because Ibo people generally have acted towards others in malignant and pernicious manners.

Fulani killings are not local by the way.

I pity the Southerners who vote likes for comments from you and Sarrki. You fulani sympathisers conceal your identity using Middle belt and Southern profiles to propagate your agenda of divide and eliminate. You chant omoluabi and Eko oni baje freely to the unguarded and Yoruba simpleton who falls victim to your scam.


If fulani killings were local why did FG raised a protective force (with high powered weapons) to shield them from thefts? Should that not be the job of individual states or local govts?

The Ipob lesson is not an instruction for fulani treatment going forward since fulani herdsmen is defined internationally as a terror group. Bokoharam is similarly a terror group, therefore fulani herdsmen deserve bokoharam treatment.

There are two elements that continue to work against Ibo.

1. His continued rebellion and assault against Yoruba
2. His aggravated assault against itself.

These two make it divinely impossible for him to advance politically. Fulani toys with him too much. If he were to correct one or both of these fulani will no longer able to play him like yo-yo.

sarrki:
For the first time I agree with Ango Abdullahi

If a child misbehaves the elders around takes the blame

Egbon, I am not happy with you ooo. An injustice to one is an injustice to all. I think the igbos are being disgraced unnecessarily. I however blame the igbo people as they don't have their shit coupled together. They shouldn't have supported Nnamdi Kanu to go that far if they weren't ready to fight a war. Just see how they have been disgraced?

We need to be careful with the precedent being set as the Hausa would feel they can shutdown any dissent through the army. It might be the turn of the igbo today but no one knows tomorrow. Igbo's just calm down, lick their wounds and go restrategise. No need squaring up to other Nigerian tribes for now. They gave this Aboki Ango Abdullahi,the opportunity to insult them.

MayorofLagos:
IPOB stands on a legal and legitimate cause, which is demand for Biafran sovereingty and self-rule. There is nothing illegal about their demand.

Much as I hate anything with Ibo, I also detest anything with fulani. Nonetheless, neither of them is totally useless and a waste. The issue of IPOB in particular is a wakeup call but moreso the response and reactions to it from North is despicable. Is North the only people threatened by IPOB? Is North the only region in Nigeria that loves this country? Where else in this country, beside North, and outside the period of civil war, has Ibo been massacred in this country?

This militarized response to IPOB is barbaric, however, most people rejoice at it because Ibo people generally have acted towards others in malignant and pernicious manners.

Fulani killings are not local by the way.

I pity the Southerners who vote likes for comments from you and Sarrki. You fulani sympathisers conceal your identity using Middle belt and Southern profiles to propagate your agenda of divide and eliminate. You chant omoluabi and Eko oni baje freely to the unguarded and Yoruba simpleton who falls victim to your scam.


If fulani killings were local why did FG raised a protective force (with high powered weapons) to shield them from thefts? Should that not be the job of individual states or local govts?

The Ipob lesson is not an instruction for fulani treatment going forward since fulani herdsmen is defined internationally as a terror group. Bokoharam is similarly a terror group, therefore fulani herdsmen deserve bokoharam treatment.

There are two elements that continue to work against Ibo.

1. His continued rebellion and assault against Yoruba
2. His aggravated assault against itself.

These two make it divinely impossible for him to advance politically. Fulani toys with him too much. If he were to correct one or both of these fulani will no longer able to play him like yo-yo.

God bless you MayorofLagos, nobody hates the igbo as much as I do on this forum but on this IPOB issue, I feel they have been had done by. On what basis did the Hausa/Fulani army levy such use of force to massacre unarmed igbo youths asking for a referendum? We have the Fulani herdsmen who have caused havoc and killed so many Nigerians but none of them has been apprehended and prosecuted. Rather they have been provided security and absolved of any crime. Let us note that the support of some Yorubas for the injustice done to the igbo would be counted against us when our own time of crisis comes. Characters like sarrki need to be investigated to ascertain if he is truly Yoruba as his staunch support of the Fulani President Buhari even in the face of clear tyranny is baffling and goes against the tenets of the omoluabi principle.

On the other hand, Igbos need to get their sh!t together and stop feeling they are anything of worth politically in Nigeria. The disgrace is too much. Their needs to be a concerted effort to rebuild the east and a gradual return of bright igbo minds to their enclave. I don't like the disgrace being meted to a major ethnic group in Nigeria. They should also stop fighting with the Yoruba as we are the only people that can help them in this country. Their pride preceded their fall in the IPOB issue.

sarrki:
Please sire ,

Stop mixing it up

Igbos are not terrorist (ipobs)organization

Ipob is a confirmed terrorist organization

Egbon, you are very wrong and you know it. What is the difference between Ipob and the mainstream Igbo? I abhor your support for Fulani tyranny on the igbo. Please, always stand for what is right and just no matter your political leanings.

Alcatraz005:
Egbon, I am not happy with you ooo. An injustice to one is an injustice to all. I think the igbos are being disgraced unnecessarily. I however blame the igbo people as they don't have their shit coupled together. They shouldn't have supported Nnamdi Kanu to go that far if they weren't ready to fight a war. Just see how they have been disgraced?

We need to be careful with the precedent being set as the Hausa would feel they can shutdown any dissent through the army. It might be the turn of the igbo today but no one knows tomorrow. Igbo's just calm down, lick their wounds and go restrategise. No need squaring up to other Nigerian tribes for now. They gave this Aboki Ango Abdullahi,the opportunity to insult them.

Brother morning,

My support for Buhari is a personal thing

Am a Yoruba he's Hausa Fulani

What I believe and I know is Buhari is my mentor since the year that I had an encounter with him in a filling station , he was out of power then.


In ipob issues

What is wrong is not right
Had it mean they are not tamed Nigeria would have witnessed genocide

Ipobs motto is hate

Alcatraz005:
Egbon, you are very wrong and you know it. What is the difference between Ipob and the mainstream Igbo? I abhor your support for Fulani tyranny on the igbo. Please, always stand for what is right and just no matter your political leanings.

Ipobs is a terrorist organization

Igbo's is a major tribe in Nigeria contributing their own Quotas to the development of Nigeria

Alcatraz005:
God bless you MayorofLagos, nobody hates the igbo as much as I do on this forum but on this IPOB issue, I feel they have been had done by. On what basis did the Hausa/Fulani army levy such use of force to massacre unarmed igbo youths asking for a referendum? We have the Fulani herdsmen who have caused havoc and killed so many Nigerians but none of them has been apprehended and prosecuted. Rather they have been provided security and absolved of any crime. Let us note that the support of some Yorubas for the injustice done to the igbo would be counted against us when our own time of crisis comes. Characters like sarrki need to be investigated to ascertain if he is truly Yoruba as his staunch support of the Fulani President Buhari even in the face of clear tyranny is baffling and goes against the tenets of the omoluabi principle.

On the other hand, Igbos need to get their sh!t together and stop feeling they are anything of worth politically in Nigeria. The disgrace is too much. Their needs to be a concerted effort to rebuild the east and a gradual return of bright igbo minds to their enclave. I don't like the disgrace being meted to a major ethnic group in Nigeria. They should also stop fighting with the Yoruba as we are the only people that can help them in this country. Their pride preceded their fall in the IPOB issue.

This is very true.

You see, in most other multi-cultural countries the political conversation is centered on legality and rights of access. The ownership of tangible power is the bottomline for setting discriminative agendas, and thus denying rights of access. In Nigeria, political victory is won through historical markers. When you know how your opponent responded in past challenges you are able to decode strengths and weaknesses you can use to pull their strings. Our biases and prejudices always take us back to the 50s and the 60s, the genesis of our problems as a competing nationalities cohabitating in the Nigerian sovereingty.

The ethnic competitions are nothing but a race for self survival. This ship must have one captain....or no captain at all! The aspiration to captain Nigeria goes beyond the ethos of selfless public administration, it is structured moreso for selfish ethnocentric gains. Therefore the ruler is viewed narrowly as "our son" (the taker), rather than in a broader benevolent perspective as "our gift" (the giver). The competition to have and keep "our son" at the head then incites all manners of basic instincts at the lower level of our humanity that compels us to deny access to others, to discriminate against them and to eliminate them. This is what Nigeria is.


It is unfortunate Ibo politicians do not make use of historical markers enough to understand political plots and intrigues.

In matters of power, fear is the first human emotion that must be exploited. The unknown factor is a limitation on the psyche. To limit man you must give him something to fear. Violence, pain and sustained suffering limits man greatly. They can be physical, emotional or both....the objective is to humiliate and subordinate your opponent and therefore kill his ambition to captain the ship, which means all the priviledges and rights of access belonging to the captain now goes to you alone.


Time after time, North has used "fear tactic" to suppress others and subordinate them. This is why after realising the advantage of military rule in 1966, they will always prefer military rule to civilian rule. This explains why Shagari was ousted in 1984, and why the idea resurfaced again recently during Buhari's absence and the thought that North will loose Presidency to South again. The violence of military regimes is useful in imposing the Nothern will on the political landscape. Between 1966 and 1979, and between 1985 and 1999, North used the military to ra.pe and exploit other regions and nationalities.

Since 1999 their exploits had increasingly dwindled and their political relevance pushed to the back burner. They could not install the army to invoke fear....therefore they supplied arms to bokoharam and fulani herdsmen and unleashed them on the public.

Bokoharam backfired on them. Fulani herdsmen is thus funded as a parallel army to visit fear and violence, one-city-at-a-time, village-after-village, on those in competition with sharia North.

Bokoharam has big enough arsenal and command infrustructure that it faced and dominated the national army. Fulani are trained, and if need be with back support, to face and destroy the police. True enough there were reported incidences of face off in which police officers either surrendered to fulani or fled. National Security resources are deployed in their defense when caught in a snag.


So, it is very crucial that Ibo leadership understand historical perspectives and study strengths and weaknesses to exploit. Laws, constitutional rights, fundamental human rights....these are not recognizable tenets for engaging and dominating a political conversation in Nigeria. Their lack of understanding is revealed in the response to IPOB, Biafra and Operation Python dance.

Ipob was an advantage to SE but a threat to North. The elites up there recognized this but concealed their fear behind Arewa Youth acting as mouthpiece. Realizing their error, they tried damage control, which failed. Then they sprang into action and sent machineries of fear into Abia. When demanded to ban IPOB and declare Biafra illegal, their reflection should have been on the history of the agitation. The grievances were primarily on marginalization and discrimination.

So, after taking Kanu out, has the marginalization, discrimination and bias of Iboman stopped? No!

So there is a tangible power there that SE leaders could have used to negotiate access rights and priviledges back to political relevance at the center. Instead, without any counter-demands and guarantees for development of SE and inclusion in appointments made by the Administration , which was causal to the agitation, they capitulated; they demonized Ipob and Kanu and implicitly agreed to subordination by the Northerners.

MayorofLagos:
This is very true.

You see, in most other multi-cultural countries the political conversation is centered on legality and rights of access. The ownership of tangible power is the bottomline for setting discriminative agendas, and thus denying rights of access. In Nigeria, political victory is won through historical markers. When you know how your opponent responded in past challenges you are able to decode strengths and weaknesses you can use to pull their strings. Our biases and prejudices always take us back to the 50s and the 60s, the genesis of our problems as a competing nationalities cohabitating in the Nigerian sovereingty.

The ethnic competitions are nothing but a race for self survival. This ship must have one captain....or no captain at all! The aspiration to captain Nigeria goes beyond the ethos of selfless public administration, it is structured moreso for selfish ethnocentric gains. Therefore the ruler is viewed narrowly as "our son" (the taker), rather than in a broader benevolent perspective as "our gift" (the giver). The competition to have and keep "our son" at the head then incites all manners of basic instincts at the lower level of our humanity that compels us to deny access to others, to discriminate against them and to eliminate them. This is what Nigeria is.


It is unfortunate Ibo politicians do not make use of historical markers enough to understand political plots and intrigues.

In matters of power, fear is the first human emotion that must be exploited. The unknown factor is a limitation on the psyche. To limit man you must give him something to fear. Violence, pain and sustained suffering limits man greatly. They can be physical, emotional or both....the objective is to humiliate and subordinate your opponent and therefore kill his ambition to captain the ship, which means all the priviledges and rights of access belonging to the captain now goes to you alone.


Time after time, North has used "fear tactic" to suppress others and subordinate them. This is why after realising the advantage of military rule in 1966, they will always prefer military rule to civilian rule. This explains why Shagari was ousted in 1984, and why the idea resurfaced again recently during Buhari's absence and the thought that North will loose Presidency to South again. The violence of military regimes is useful in imposing the Nothern will on the political landscape. Between 1966 and 1979, and between 1985 and 1999, North used the military to ra.pe and exploit other regions and nationalities.

Since 1999 their exploits had increasingly dwindled and their political relevance pushed to the back burner. They could not install the army to invoke fear....therefore they supplied arms to bokoharam and fulani herdsmen and unleashed them on the public.

Bokoharam backfired on them. Fulani herdsmen is thus funded as a parallel army to visit fear and violence, one-city-at-a-time, village-after-village, on those in competition with sharia North.

Bokoharam has big enough arsenal and command infrustructure that it faced and dominated the national army. Fulani are trained, and if need be with back support, to face and destroy the police. True enough there were reported incidences of face off in which police officers either surrendered to fulani or fled. National Security resources are deployed in their defense when caught in a snag.


So, it is very crucial that Ibo leadership understand historical perspectives and study strengths and weaknesses to exploit. Laws, constitutional rights, fundamental human rights....these are not recognizable tenets for engaging and dominating a political conversation in Nigeria. Their lack of understanding is revealed in the response to IPOB, Biafra and Operation Python dance.

Ipob was an advantage to SE but a threat to North. The elites up there recognized this but concealed their fear behind Arewa Youth acting as mouthpiece. Realizing their error, they tried damage control, which failed. Then they sprang into action and sent machineries of fear into Abia. When demanded to ban IPOB and declare Biafra illegal, their reflection should have been on the history of the agitation. The grievances were primarily on marginalization and discrimination.

So, after taking Kanu out, has the marginalization, discrimination and bias of Iboman stopped? No!

So there is a tangible power there that SE leaders could have used to negotiate access rights and priviledges back to political relevance at the center. Instead, without any counter-demands and guarantees for development of SE and inclusion in appointments made by the Administration , which was causal to the agitation, they capitulated; they demonized Ipob and Kanu and implicitly agreed to subordination by the Northerners.

Very detailed and informed commentary on the political machinations in Nigeria. I hope all Southerners (esp igbo) are seeing this?