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bidexiii:
#Egypt is in talks wz #UAE Tawazun Dynamics to buy Al-Tariq precision-guided bomb kit & other military equipments .

jln115:
Would be awesome for Denel if they can land this deal!!

bidexiii:
You mean if Denel can supply the Egyptian military with precision guided bomb kit...

That would be awesome African nation buying high tech muntiins from one another..

jpphilips:
The products are of low quality, the army cant use it themselves, they are not properly refined

jln115:
The Al Tariq is actually Denels Umbani and, Tawazun Dynamics is a joint venture by Denel Dynamics and Tawazun.

For all intensive purposes the Al Tariq is 100% a South African product!!

bidexiii:
#Egypt is in talks wz #UAE Tawazun Dynamics to buy Al-Tariq precision-guided bomb kit & other military equipments .

MikeCZA:
Denel holds 49% of the company.

MikeCZA:
Denel holds 49% of the company.

jakeporeshenko:
Why didn’t Egypt approach SA instead

bidexiii:
Okay, thanks mate for the info.

tdayof:
And the remaining 51% by the other? Or more companies. If so, it's so, the product is not 100% Denel again as stated by the SA agugugbu.


umbani is South African but when development name goes at Al-tariq it's now UAE. So far Denel has 49% and the other party has 51% no one cares if the product was developed by a single person in South Africa. The product being Al tariq isn't South African.

Having 49% means the UAE company dictates how much salary Denel workers will be making on that project.

jln115:
What does the fact that they have 51% of the company have to do with the product it self?? the Al- Tariq existed before Tawazun Dynamics was even an after thought!!

It was designed by Denel and funded by the SANDF hence its a South African product!!

Lastly I find it strange that someone who said the Gripen can't fly inverted is the one calling me agubugu?

tdayof:
South Africa owns the project but during a joint venture, it umbani changed to Al tariq with Denel dynamics having 49% stake and the UAE company having 51%.


Due to the percentage, the UAE being the largest shareholder of 51% can oppose any decision made my Denel dynamics. In the course of the joint venture, Denel dynamics can never claim it 100% owns Al tariq but can claim to own umbani.


Google is your friend. Your economics sucks.

Now ask me why people purchased JF17 directly from Pakistan.

PAC owns the largest share will two other Chinese companies have to share the remaining percentage.


Umbani is a South African product but Al tariq is not South African.


If umbani is South African then JF17 is Chinese.

tdayof:
Al Tariq is South African made by Denel and Denel doesn't have it on its list of products.
http://www.denel.co.za/album/Denel-Products/20

Al tariq owned by the UAE company Tawazun Holding clearly visible on her website.

www.tawazundynamics.ae



I don't know how a product of joint venture became a property of a single country.

jln115:
Ok by that logic the follow businesses and their products are not Nigerian:

Nigerian Breweries
Flour Mills of Nigeria
ect
ect

frumentius:
I'll just leave this here.

tdayof:
Lol these are companies with IPO. The owners are the share holders. With the Netherland company Heineken having the largest numbers of BOD.


Denel isn't a company with IPO.

tdayof:
Still doesn't change the fact that the name coined Al. Tariq isn't 100% South African again.

We're talking about the fact that someone here claimed a joint venture product is owned by a single country.

jln115:
Who said the product is owned by a single country?? please quote what was said!!

jln115:
The Al Tariq is actually Denels Umbani and, Tawazun Dynamics is a joint venture by Denel Dynamics and Tawazun.

For all intensive purposes the Al Tariq is 100% a South African product!!

jln115:
Irrelevant ret@rd!! The fact that they are not majority owned by Nigeria/Nigerian investors means that these companies are not Nigerian neither are their products...........BY YOUR DEFINITION!!

You don't see Indians claiming that Jaguar is now a Indian product simply because TATA is the majority stakeholder!

tdayof:
Investment is. Different from a joint venture.

Bro, your school fees is wasted that's if you have any educational qualification at all.


If you can't differentiate between investment and a joint venture.
You also said Al tariq is 100% South African and still asked who said so. You're either suffering from a memory loss which has always been proven by you.

tdayof:
You retard can you see? Dumb hypocrite.

tdayof:
Investment is. Different from a joint venture.

Bro, your school fees is wasted that's if you have any educational qualification at all.


If you can't differentiate between investment and a joint venture.
You also said Al tariq is 100% South African and still asked who said so. You're either suffering from a memory loss which has always been proven by you.

jln115:
Fvck my life !! Im talking ownership bro!! If a company owns 51% of a company through investing in an established company our owns 51% of a joint venture it still owns both those companies!!

FYI a joint venture is still an investment you fvcking ret@rd!!

tdayof:
Like I said your fees is still a waste.

1. If you invest in my company, you don't change my company's name because you own 50%


2.Investment for equity or proprietary. While a joint founded venture to achieve same goal.

3 .Denel needs money and needs buyer for her products while Tawazun can provide the customers bit doesn't own have the technology.

Denel then decides on a joint venture which brought about Tawazun Dynamics with Tawazun owning 51% of the shares. The newly founded company owns the product Al-tariq


Bro, this is really stressful explaining all this but it's a normal thing. Teaching kids always have I be stressful.

I'm done with you today.

tdayof:
When you finally realized he dynamics from Tawazun Dynamics is from the combination of Denel dynamics and Tawazun holdings due to their joint venture.

jln115:
The Al Tariq is actually Denels Umbani and, Tawazun Dynamics is a joint venture by Denel Dynamics and Tawazun.

For all intensive purposes the Al Tariq is 100% a South African product!!

ukemeramat:
Then there should be a better way for disposal than pollution. It still gets to same point am making. The S&T unit has the capacity improve the quality. The did it those days so why can't it be done now better technology can be applied. Pollution of land and water ways is still not the best. The oil on the waters affect the Navy too both in mobility and damage to boats and ships. So it should never be an option