₦airaland Forum

attackgat:
How? In subsection(b), IPOB has not yet declared a separate state of Biafra so the territorial intergrity of Nigeria is still intact

[s]In subsection(c) there was no insurrection. Insurrection means "violent armed uprising" by a group. Before the Army came to Abia state, was no insurrection. IPOB may have stoned the soldiers during their clash but stonning is not insurrection and neither were the Army acting in aid of any civil authority[/s]

Noun 1. civil authority - a person who exercises authority over civilian affairs
civil officer
authority - (usually plural) persons who exercise (administrative) control over others; "the authorities have issued a curfew"
city manager, mayor - the head of a city government

Who or what, by the above definition, is the President of Nigeria?

Is he not a civil authority?

Besides that section of the constitution is simply interpreted to mean that the army may take on roles typically assigned to civil authorities. It does not mean that they require the involvement of those authorities.

SmartyPants:
My contribution is solely on the legality of the army's position. Their actions are entirely legal since the Constitution provides that the Army may assist Civil Authorities in carrying out their duties. You then have to note that there is no requirement that the police must be overwhelmed. The only requirement is that the deployment of the army should be done at the discretion of the president or his lawful delegates.

Furthermore, the Armed Forces Act of Nigeria states that the president shall determine the operational use of the army, that is he shall determine for what purpose they are deployed within Nigeria.

So have they got the right to be on the streets of the South-east, abundantly yes! Have they got the right to pick up Nnammdi Kanu? Abundantly yes (to the same extent as police do), and note that a warrant is not always required for an arrest.

So the narrative goes that,

1. Troops were deployed
2. Troops were attacked
3. The person behind these attacks is to be arrested

There are no grounds upon which to fault the army here.

So essentially troops were deployed to cause mayhem and in the process trigger the barbaric killing of ordinary folks. See how you have indicted your dearly leader

afongha:
He is called the C-in-C for a reason. He doesn't need anyone's permission to deploy the troops WITHIN the country, esp when advised to do so by the security council.

However, like a maintained in a previous post, the response of FG has been too desperate and impetuous. It reeks of double standards esp when one compares with the kid gloves being given to the Fulani herdsman.

It's illegal. He's only going to get away with cos Nigeria is a third world country. If the president had absolute powers to deploy the army as he liked then he could just use them to intimidate or kill his political enemies or rig elections with no law holding him accountable.

Let us set the record straight.
Abia was not in crises and the government at no stage declared a state of emergency.
Abia was peaceful and its citizen whether for or against Biafra were going about their normal activities before the military invasion and the catastrophic consequences.
The target of government being Mr Nnamdi Kanu was undergoing judicial process and the court did not declare him wanted.

UfuomaUN:
It's illegal. He's only going to get away with cos Nigeria is a third world country. If the president had absolute powers to deploy the army as he liked then he could just use them to intimidate or kill his political enemies or rig elections with no law holding him accountable.

This is what I am trying to tell this people. In essence anybody challenging Buhari in 2019 is an enemy of the state and hence will be killed by the military. It is Ndigbo today, it could be those celebrating this dastardly act tomorrow. An Igbo proverb ''tomorrow is pregnant''

truthtosinknaij:
So essentially troops were deployed to cause mayhem and in the process trigger the barbaric killing of ordinary folks. See how you have indicted your dearly leader

Rubbish. The deployment of troops is no reason for mayhem unless the troops are deployed an unruly and rebellious set of people

SmartyPants:
Noun 1. civil authority - a person who exercises authority over civilian affairs
civil officer
authority - (usually plural) persons who exercise (administrative) control over others; "the authorities have issued a curfew"
city manager, mayor - the head of a city government

Who or what, by the above definition, is the President of Nigeria?

Is he not a civil authority?

Besides that section of the constitution is simply interpreted to mean that the army may take on roles typically assigned to civil authorities. It does not mean that they require the involvement of those authorities.

"suppressing insurrection and acting in aid of civil authorities to restore order when called upon to do so by the President, but subject to such conditions as may be prescribed by an Act of the National Assembly; "

I stead of you defining civil authority, read the above section of the constitution. It is the president that has to call on the military to aid civil authorities

Are you trying to say that they meant that the president can call upon the military to aid himself?

If that were true then it means that whoever is president of Nigeria can use the Nigerian Military as his personal property

1nigeriamyfoot:
Do you read what you just post? does it make any sense to you? Before you post, always think well.
Thanks

Sence fall on you

attackgat:
"suppressing insurrection and acting in aid of civil authorities to restore order when called upon to do so by the President, but subject to such conditions as may be prescribed by an Act of the National Assembly; "

I stead of you defining civil authority, read the above section of the constitution. It is the president that has to call on the military to aid civil authorities

Are you trying to say that they meant that the president can call upon the military to aid himself?

If that were true then it means that whoever is president of Nigeria can use the Nigerian Military as his personal property

That quotation means the presido can call upon the army to aid any civil authority whatsoever (including himself), in the interest of peace and order.

obviously, matters of personal interest to the president do not have anything to do with the work of civil authorities (including himself).

SmartyPants:
That quotation means the presido can call upon the army to aid any civil authority whatsoever (including himself), in the interest of peace and order.

obviously, matters of personal interest to the president do not have anything to do with the work of civil authorities (including himself).

When the President is calling on the Army "to aid himself" it is as it personal gets.

attackgat:
When the President is calling on the Army "to aid himself" it is as it personal gets.

in the pursuit of national goals...dont refuse to understand.

Yyeske:
The army has the right to deal with anyone who tries to challenge it.
Their job was to go and pick up nnamdi kanu but those brainwashed miscreants stood on their way and what were you expecting? Hugs and kisses?
See him shouting Brazil, if you were in Europe or the US, Wetin go happen?

Who gave the useless military the authority to go and pick Kanu without court order.?


Nigerians think opposite the way advance societies think

Yyeske:
Sence fall on you

I dont knw why APC no dey do interview b4 dem recruit new BMC
#Sencemyfoot

truthtosinknaij:
I have not read the Nigerian constitution (I don't have time for that trash) but using common sense.
1. Can a civilian elected leader send the military into a peaceful area when properties and life and not under threat?
2. Can an elected president send his military against his own people without consulting the legislature and or the judiciary?
3. Can the military summarily execute people without due process like charging the so called offenders to court?

I am neither for or against secession but there is grave danger for this nascent democrazy if the judiciary and legislative arms of government do not start the process of impeachment of Buhari

Check out the consequences of our inaction;
Buhari's government can summarily execute anybody it so wished with no questions asked.
Why do we have the judiciary, the government can as well execute anybody without having to submit its evidence for scrutiny by a competent court.

In short, this are dangerous time.
Thank God I have escaped from Nigeria this week and Brazil is my new home.

cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy baby....STFU!

The national assembly should quickly set in motion the process of impeachment of Buhari failing which this Nigerian democrazy is as good as dead

So they know self determination is a right. IPOB was only organizing rallies, giving speeches, calling for referendum. What is illegal about that? Pep Guadiola is campaigning for Catalonia. Is the spanish government after his head?