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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:47pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
I don't see myself as an ethnic being anymore. I thank the almighty that has delivered me from such frivolities. There's enough resources to go around. Let me chip this in, for over 40 years gas was flared. People's eyes were not opened to the flared gasses for 40 years. Do you know that NLNG delivers about 1.5 Trillion Naira annually? Multiply this by the 40 years of flaring, it means over 60 Trillion Naira equitable to 60 Billion Dollars was flared...Did you no that no tribe fought or thought about the economic impact of the wastage? WHY? Because we didn't see it as a resource, we need to start seeing beyond where we are and should strive towards development, progressive and growth... I'm relocating soon to the ND, i'm tired of the shallow-mindedness.
It's good that you don't. Not many Nigerians can say the same. Ethnic identity is far more important in Nigeria than State or National identity. And there is a very good reason for that: Nigeria is structured to encourage ethnocentrism. Until we break free from that structure, nothing will change. There has to be a serious restructuring of Nigeria so that we can all see a nation that we'd be proud to identify with, over and above our petty ethnic interests.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:48pm On Sep 24, 2017
Efewestern:
believe me I pity isokos the more, they should continue denying their urhoboness na them sabi, take a look at uvwie, how they benefited with their urhobo stance.

also some mischief are trying to cause issues between itsekiri and urhobo.. use brain in responding to such comments.
Bro, if you speak like this you would incite ethnic fights. Why not speak to bring people together ? We all need a common cause to bring us all together and not to tear one another apart...
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IJOBA2: 6:48pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
Nah. Yorubas don't have this much hate in them, especially towards Urhobos. We both know those behind the attacks.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THEM
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IgboticGirl(f): 6:49pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Wetin we go do? The youths are not enlightened, the elders are greedy.

You know why i support the IPOB? At least, IPOB wants something, they know what it is and are ready for the consequences of the aftermath. I'm yet to understand what Niger Delta wants, just flowing in the pipeline....

May God open Niger Delta eyes is all i can say...

As for me, i'm counting down to the end of crude oil, may Heaven dryup either the oil or the market buying the oil.

I was speaking at a conference at how new oil sellers Iran is spoiling the market, by selling below the conventional price for crude and because of the proximity of Iran to the guys that buy up our oil, it means bad market, for example, the time it takes to load a ship and send to India, Iran has gone twice for the same amount of crude, sells cheap and has banked the cash....
They setting of things in this country is sad


How can u extract ur mineral resources in a region and have ur company in another? How good is DAT , do u know the health hazard and economic damage that it


Monkey will work baboo will chop


I feel sad
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:49pm On Sep 24, 2017
Efewestern:
believe me I pity isokos the more, they should continue denying their urhoboness na them sabi, take a look at uvwie, how they benefited with their urhobo stance.

also some mischief are trying to cause issues between itsekiri and urhobo.. use brain in responding to such comments.
Ayen ihwo r'Igbo. Yanjia Wo. Oma ka vuayen.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:50pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Bro, if you speak like this you would incite ethnic fights. Why not speak to bring people together ? We all need a common cause to bring us all together and not to tear one another apart...
He's not the one using Itsekiri as a cover for attacks on this thread. Even after real Itsekiris like Onuwaje have spoken already. He's only advising me on how to respond to their provocations.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:50pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
It's good that you don't. Not many Nigerians can say the same. Ethnic identity is far more important in Nigeria than State or National identity. And there is a very good reason for that: Nigeria is structured to encourage ethnocentrism. Until we break free from that structure, nothing will change. There has to be a serious restructuring of Nigeria so that we can all see a nation that we'd be proud to identify with, over and above our petty ethnic interests.
Nigeria seems to be in the reverse. Have you seen the trend lately? The yorubas have never met like they did in recent history...I repeat never. That event shook my liver. The SE wants a nation. The north is preparing by looking for crude oil, from the Sokoto basin, to the Lake Chad Basin, over 100 Billion Naira has been spent under this administration. I think the nation is preparing for a referendum followed by re-configuration or re-identification than to become unified...My own take as a social observer though
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:51pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
He's not the one using Itsekiri as a cover for attacks on this thread. Even after real Itsekiris like Onuwaje have spoken already.
Onuwaje is a man of deep wisdom. I respect his grace..

Shit, election results in Germany and New Zealand...

Brb guys
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:52pm On Sep 24, 2017
IJOBA2:
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THEM
A quiz for you: which ethnicity in Nigeria goes about inciting others to anger?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:52pm On Sep 24, 2017
IgboticGirl:
They setting of things in this country is sad


How can u extract ur mineral resources in a region and have ur company in another? How good is DAT , do u know the health hazard and economic damage that it


Monkey will work baboo will chop


I feel sad
I'm not bothered about that self. Look at SE, Enugu has coal and can generate up to 5MW to power at least 3 Ndigbo states, now you implement a rule that no company, or individual or region should generate power which is needed for industrial growth. You regulate it to put people in a brace. Does this make sense?

To me it's more about the underutilized resources than they ones been eaten. God knows, i hope to speak to the soul of this country
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Efewestern(op): 6:53pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Fratermathy is looking for forced brotherhood by fire by force.

Even effurun a town on the fringes of Warri will tell you they aren't urhobo.
lol.. No day will an uvwie man denial been urhobo, I understand uvwie dialect very well.

ur divide and rule tactics won't work here.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:55pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
A quiz for you: which ethnicity in Nigeria goes about inciting others to anger?
We need to come together o. We like minded younger generation. We need to start grouping whether na online or offline. We need to do something
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:55pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Nigeria seems to be in the reverse. Have you seen the trend lately? The yorubas have never met like they did in recent history...I repeat never. That event shook my liver. The SE wants a nation. The north is preparing by looking for crude oil, from the Sokoto basin, to the Lake Chad Basin, over 100 Billion Naira has been spent under this administration. I think the nation is preparing for a referendum followed by re-configuration or re-identification than to become unified...My own take as a social observer though
There are only two ways Nigeria will escape this current quagmire:

1. Restructuring the entire nation in lines with the 2014 confab report, as well as the implementation of true federalism (with clearly defined state-ethnic borders) and resource control.

2. Divide Nigeria into 4-6 units, with at best, a loose confederation and at worst, total separation.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Efewestern(op): 6:56pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Bro, if you speak like this you would incite ethnic fights. Why not speak to bring people together ? We all need a common cause to bring us all together and not to tear one another apart...
I understand, I always take everybody along, my point is that isoko needs to align with their urhobo brothers for greater achievement, I see no reason why we can't relate with one voice, the isoko people are badly marginalized.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IJOBA2: 6:56pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
A quiz for you: which ethnicity in Nigeria goes about inciting others to anger?
URHOBOhuh
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:57pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
There are only two ways Nigeria will escape this current quagmire:

1. Restructuring the entire nation in lines with the 2014 confab report, as well as the implementation of true federalism (with clearly defined state-ethnic borders) and resource control.

2. Divide Nigeria into 4-6 units, with at best, a loose confederation and at worst.
I'll pick divide Nigeria into units while maintaining a common identity. Let's see how the journey unfolds
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:58pm On Sep 24, 2017
Efewestern:
I understand, I always take everybody along, my point is that isoko needs to align with their urhobo brothers for greater achievement, I see no reason why we can't relate with one voice, the isoko people are badly marginalized.
You are right bro. I need to belong oh. How far, are you close to home? We the younger generation needs to start hooking up oh. We will offer the Isokos a peace offering and the Itsekiri a brotherly kiss and unite the region in love, peace and equity.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:59pm On Sep 24, 2017
Efewestern:
lol.. No day will an uvwie man denial been urhobo, I understand uvwie dialect very well.

ur divide and rule tactics won't work here.
You even get time to dey answer that pain-filled youth. Urhobos know themselves. You don't have to convince him of anything whatsoever. If he has met any Effurun person saying he's not Urhobo, then good for both of them cool.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by chloride6: 6:59pm On Sep 24, 2017
aniomafirstson:
what is bad if Igbos as far as Enugu are dredging the river Niger

are we not all part of the Igbo race?

it will even aid in the fast development of Igbo land

or why do you think I want anioma zoned to the SE
I never said it is bad for people from Enugu to dredge the Niger.

Im saying that including anioma in the South East is to the advantage of the SE and to the detriment of the SS. Because it cuts them away from the Niger.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:59pm On Sep 24, 2017
IJOBA2:
URHOBOhuh
Okay. Since that's your answer, I reckon that the inciters are Urhobos.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 7:00pm On Sep 24, 2017
Efewestern:
lol.. No day will an uvwie man denial been urhobo, I understand uvwie dialect very well.

ur divide and rule tactics won't work here.
Divine and rule? For urhobo? Please slay the thought from from your head.

I meant Okpe. Orogun precisely.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IgboticGirl(f): 7:01pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
I'm not bothered about that self. Look at SE, Enugu has coal and can generate up to 5MW to power at least 3 Ndigbo states, now you implement a rule that no company, or individual or region should generate power which is needed for industrial growth. You regulate it to put people in a brace. Does this make sense?

To me it's more about the underutilized resources than they ones been eaten. God knows, i hope to speak to the soul of this country
Shell is currently build her largest gas plant in assa IMO state, let wait and see

I just pray Enugu will start looking into coal abeg I don tire for this country
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 7:01pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Divine and rule? For urhobo? Please slay the thought from from your head.

I meant Okpe. Orogun precisely.
Orogun people. Wa do... How area?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IJOBA2: 7:02pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
Okay. Since that's your answer, I reckon that the inciters are Urhobos.
DIDNT YOU SEE QUESTION MARK ON MY POST?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 7:02pm On Sep 24, 2017
Efewestern:
I understand, I always take everybody along, my point is that isoko needs to align with their urhobo brothers for greater achievement, I see no reason why we can't relate with one voice, the isoko people are badly marginalized.
No Isoko person has spoken otherwise on this thread. Those speaking for Isoko or Itsekiri here are only doing what they are good at and what we should be used to by now: speaking for other ethnicities! When they are cornered and rebuffed, they add the ethnicity to their hate list! grin cheesy grin.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 7:04pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Divine and rule? For urhobo? Please slay the thought from from your head.

I meant Okpe. Orogun precisely.
Orogun is NOT in OKPE! Orogun is a pure Urhobo clan in Ughelli North LGA!

Okpe, on the other hand, has some issues with the Urhobo identity but that's not our business at all. We don't FORCE identity on people. They are free to do and say what they want, as long as it makes them sleep well at night. So I virtually see no importance for bringing it up here. If Okpe people say they don't want to join other Urhobos, then fine! In fact, if all the Urhobo clans decide to split today, why should that concern you? Life will certainly go on... grin cheesy
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 7:05pm On Sep 24, 2017
IgboticGirl:
Shell is currently build her largest gas plant in assa IMO state, let wait and see

I just pray Enugu will start looking into coal abeg I don tire for this country
I am happy for the SE, God is helping you guys. I saw the Hyundai refinery model that will be built. It will provide over 130,000 jobs. Imagine what multiples of this will do to the SE, it is people like Ifeanyi Ubah who were given licenses to construct refinery and didn't do this that i blame and not the Northerners. Also, research is on-going into the coal in Enugu, It's expensive and isn't cheap...I'm proud of the SE. It's only a matter of time...
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 7:05pm On Sep 24, 2017
IJOBA2:
DIDNT YOU SEE QUESTION MARK ON MY POST?
I guess this comment means you don't agree that it is Urhobos doing the incitement.

I don't want to point fingers any further but rest assured that the inciters are not Yorubas, Urhobos, Isokos, and I daresay, Itsekiris.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Eastfield1: 7:06pm On Sep 24, 2017
IJOBA2:
URHOBOhuh
perfect
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by giles14(m): 7:07pm On Sep 24, 2017
SuperStriker:
Observing.

Please create Anioma state and add them to the Igbos.

Also return lands taken from Imo state to that state from Rivets state. Once this in s done we know that Igbo land has been clearly defined.
we don't anioma they are not Igbo's but ika.

we don't need umbammiri people
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 7:08pm On Sep 24, 2017
giles14:
we don't anioma they are not Igbo's but ika.

we don't need umbammiri people
Anioma isn't just Ika. There's also Ndokwa (Ukwuani) and Enuani (Anioshimili).
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by giles14(m): 7:09pm On Sep 24, 2017
aniomafirstson:
Ibadan ijebu and the rest are all inside south west region
we are only asking for anioma to be zoned to the south east
finito
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