₦airaland Forum

LordAdam16:
Most of the brains from Delta no send Delta at all. And I no blame them. Abi u expect say mk Elumelu or Emefiele kon dey settle dem James Manager mk dem 4 fit c road. Unto wetin? The political class don divvy up the state. The money wen dey enter the state no dey reach ground b4 dem dey share am finish to the last kobo.

The governors are simply apt at sharing money between the many interests without causing ruckus.

Delta State is on a race to the bottom and the speed with which they're going surprises me.

Delta is in the top 5 for allocation, IGR, and debt; yet there's nothing to write home about the state. All the money just enter some "elders" belle, with crumbs falling to the "youths" who eventually fight amongst themselves for same crumbs. The state no b am abeg. E no get wia u 4 1 start dey reason how to change the situation. Hopeless na understatement.

-Lord

giles14:
we d south east don't need dem

minke:
The best way to end all these calls for secession and state creation is to restructure the country and make every state autonomous.

fratermathy:
Okay. Orogun people are Igbos. Their ancestors migrated from Nsukka, through Aboh, to their current location. Happy now?

Shroud:
I have been engaging one of your kinsman and unlike you he isn't a tribal bigot and petty fraud. He stands for the truth. That's something alien to you in principle.

Miscellaneous:
We itsekiris will resist any deliberate action to sidetrack us in the scheme of things. We refuse to be in such state where we are further prone to marginalization and oppression. The urhobos have not stated what this hope to solve... Shouldn't they involve stakeholders of Itsekiri kingdom? Or don't they think every tribe has its own view on state creation?

All hail iwere Kingdom!
All hail itsekiris!!
All hail warri kingdom!!!

fratermathy:
I thought we have both agreed that Orogun people are Igbos who don't even speak Urhobo at all or identify as Urhobo. Why are you still pained over the issue?

I expected that you should be investigating Udu or Ughievwen now to know whether or not they are Urhobo.

DrIkB:
A creation of a new Delta state, but when their brothers we're Governors they did not need a new Delta,...selfish Urhobos... Okowa till 2023

fratermathy:
I thought we have both agreed that Orogun people are Igbos who don't even speak Urhobo at all or identify as Urhobo. Why are you still pained over the issue?

I expected that you should be investigating Udu or Ughievwen now to know whether or not they are Urhobo.

giles14:
we don't anioma they are not Igbo's but ika.

we don't need umbammiri people

supersystemsnig:
I laff in spiritual powers. How can the orogun people not be Urhobos?

Shroud:
I have been engaging one of your kinsman and unlike you he isn't a tribal bigot and petty fraud. He stands for the truth. That's something alien to you in principle.


We for Warri know the truth but we dey spy you with corner eye for NL when you dey fool yourself
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Efewestern:
AGBARHO— MEMBERS of the Pan Niger Delta Forum, PANDEF, from the Urhobo ethnic nationality in Delta and Bayelsa states, have called for the creation of New Delta State , covering the present Delta Central and Delta South senatorial districts, as recommended by the 2014 National Conference.

At a meeting in Agbarho, Ughelli North Local Government Area of the state, to review the forum’s activities, Urhobo- PANDEF members, who also passed a vote of confidence on Chief Edwin Clark, urged the Federal Government to expeditiously attend to the 16-point agenda of PANDEF.

They said: “We support the creation of more states, especially New Delta State , to encompass the present Delta Central and Delta South senatorial zones as recommended by the 2014 National Conference.”

The gathering, presided over by eminent Niger Delta leader, Professor G. G. Darah, had in attendance Professors S. W. E. Iboje, Temi Akporonor, A. S. Akpotor, Atare Otite, Victor Jike, Chief Emmanuel Okumagba, Chief Raphael Okene, Chief George Ugen, Chief Westham Adehor, Chief Ruth Timothy, Dr. Sunny Awhefeada, Mr. Peter Darah, among others. Professor Darah commended the group for convincing youths to lay down arms for dialogue, attributing the gradual economic stability being experienced by the nation to PANDEF’s intervention.

They resolved that oil companies operating in Urhobo land should move their headquarters to the area, while pipeline surveillance and security contracts for oil facilities in Urhobo land should be awarded to the Urhobo people.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/urhobo-pandef-wants-new-delta-state/

Shroud:
Channel your misgivings to your tribesmen who has called you a liar.

One love.

fratermathy:
My tribesman on "your WhatsApp". Yea, right!

We need your next discovery abeg!

I'm sure even Ughelli is not Urhobo. They are Igbos from Orlu.

fratermathy:
I agree totally. Without prejudice to the good people of Delta North, those of us in Delta South and Central share more in common and should ideally be the ones to constitute a state, with a capital within the region.

Anioma State should be created and zoned to the SE for equity to reign.

I also agree that the oil companies should move their headquarters to the region. It is simply logical to locate the headquarters of an oil company in an oil producing region.

aniomafirstson:
abeg wetin your guy mean by "they speak both language"

fratermathy:
Helep me ask am o bros.

The Orogun I know has ONLY 3 bilingual subgroups out of more than 10 Orogun groups. Their bilingualism is purely out of proximity to Abbi (in Ukwuani land) and the same Abbi (and indeed Ukwuani at large) is also influenced by Urhobo by virtue of contact.

I don't know when their bilingualism has turned to denial of Urhobo identity! Orogun people when carry UPU matter for head like garri.

aniomafirstson:
abeg wetin your guy mean by "they speak both language"

aniomafirstson:
abeg wetin your guy mean by "they speak both language"

fratermathy:
But they can extract oil from there abi?

Shroud:
That's his response

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Shroud:
That's his response

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quickly:
Which oil company does not have office in Niger Delta. All of the main offices are in either Warri or PH. when oil expats come to ndelta back in the day they have to have heavy security or they might be kidnapped which is not the case in lag or else where.



But they all like to have main office in lagos or abuja for convenience.



If you work for Oil company and they post you to their Iraq office will you go?

aniomafirstson:
sorry but your friend is wrong

kwale is different from orogun

and they don't speak the same language

kwale speaks a dialect of Igbo language

orogun speaks urhobo

quickly:
Which oil company does not have office in Niger Delta. All of the main offices are in either Warri or PH. when oil expats come to ndelta back in the day they have to have heavy security or they might be kidnapped which is not the case in lag or else where.



But they all like to have main office in lagos or abuja for convenience.



If you work for Oil company and they post you to their Iraq office will you go?

aniomafirstson:
sorry but your friend is wrong

kwale is different from orogun

and they don't speak the same language

aniomafirstson:
sorry but your friend is wrong

kwale is different from orogun

and they don't speak the same language

kwale speaks a dialect of Igbo language

orogun speaks urhobo

fratermathy:
I agree with you!

Shroud:
Yes and here's the catch, orogun hangs on the fringes of both ukwuani and urhobo. They are not kwale and don't speak exact same dialect. The fusion of a distinct dialect influenced by ukwani and also bearing smatterings of urhobo is the key here.

It's almost same thing in Obiaroko after Abraka where the language is mixed somewhat too.