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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fr3do(m): 10:21pm On Sep 24, 2017
giles14:
of all who quoted me your's was most positive n educative,

anioma pple or delta Igbo get annoy wen u refer to dem as Igbo ,so its better we manage ourselves (5 Igbo's states) than trying to make a lost people accept who they are.
lost people? who is this one!
what condescension!
the anioma people do not need your approval.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 10:23pm On Sep 24, 2017
fr3do:
Anioma should be created - yes!
she should be zoned to the SE - No!

wetin dey pursue us from the more financed SS, we can be Igbo or Igboid from the SS
Many people believe
that they're in igboland once the cross the
bridge into Onitsha and this misconception has to change

SE needs presence on both side of the Niger
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fr3do(m): 10:32pm On Sep 24, 2017
aniomafirstson:
Many people believe
that they're in igboland once the cross the
bridge into Onitsha and this misconception has to change

SE needs presence on both side of the Niger
SE is just a contraption, what you might want to refer to, is the larger Igbo people - which stretch to delta, edo, river and even benue states etc. we can all work together without being confined to one region.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by omohayek: 10:32pm On Sep 24, 2017
davidif:
See reasoning. Instead of downsizing the govt and reducing the number of states this ones are clamoring for more states? If Bihari had been smart he would get rid of the state's and consolidate them into regions: 6 of them to be exact but this clowns are clamoring for more states?? And they claim to be professors?
As long as states can expect their primary sources of funds to come from the FG, rather than from state taxes, all the incentives will continue to point in the direction of clamoring for yet more "states", so new groups can get their own share of the "national cake".

Nigeria's entire political and economic structure makes no sense, as it rewards all the worst tendencies while discouraging the better ones; the sorts of reforms that will be necessary to make a change for the better are so drastic, and will have such a negative impact on many of the Nigerian elite, that even those from many parts currently demanding "restructuring" will quickly change their tune completely. Outside of a few places like Lagos and (to some extent) Ogun, the average Nigerian born after 1967 has no first-hand experience of living in a political unit that even comes close to being self-supporting.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by GreenCap: 10:39pm On Sep 24, 2017
but the 2014 confab proposed 18 new states...

Anioma to retain Asaba
and Delta goes with Warri

igboid rivers upland gets Orashi state

and rivers lowland to bear Rivers state

idomas Apa moves to Oturkpo
and tivs Benue keeps Makurdi

Ogoja, formerly the provincial headquarter of Abakaliki, exit Cross River

Adada can have Nsukka as capital

and so on

NW +2, NE +3, NC +3
SW +3, SS +3, SE +4

Igbos will be blessed with 11 states:
9 from SE and 2 from SS

the Eastern heartland Imo retains Owerri

Njaba to Orlu

Etiti to Okigwe

all these naming of states after rivers should flow riches across the land...
Ogun, Ondo, Osun

Sokoto, Kano, Zamfara

Kaduna, Gurara, Katagum

Niger, Benue, Gongola

Anambra, Imo, Ebonyi

Orashi, Njaba, Adada

Cross, aQua Iboe,
Bayelsa

proudly Imo state
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 10:41pm On Sep 24, 2017
fr3do:
SE is just a contraption, what you might want to refer to, is the larger Igbo people - which stretch to delta, edo, river and even benue states etc. we can all work together without being confined to one region.
it will extend the
geographical landscape of Southeast
and Asaba would be a great
economic addition.

besides why do you want anioma zoned to SS ?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 10:59pm On Sep 24, 2017
Urhobo people sef dry claim oil. How many oil producing communities dem get. Abeg make dis oil do dry, it's of no use to Nigeria.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by scholes0(m): 11:08pm On Sep 24, 2017
fr3do:
Anioma should be created - yes!
she should be zoned to the SE - No!

wetin dey pursue us from the more financed SS, we can be Igbo or Igboid from the SS
lol so you want SS to have 7 states with a population less than that of the SW that has 6, while the SE remains with just 5?

Anioma should be made and zoned to SE.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 11:09pm On Sep 24, 2017
giles14:
of all who quoted me your's was most positive n educative,

anioma pple or delta Igbo get annoy wen u refer to dem as Igbo ,so its better we manage ourselves (5 Igbo's states) than trying to make a lost people accept who they are.
Before you speak bro think. It was you igbos of eastern extraction who started the stupid delta north ain't igbos shit, anytime I meet most of yall and I say am an igbo from delta they just scoff, one almost lost his teeth when he said all igbos west of the Niger are slaves (osu), that's what made most of us to claim we are different like someone from ezi or ukala claiming their village name or animal, so stop playing possum, you guys only see us as part of you guys when you need something, many of you don't even see emefiele and elumelu, as igbos,
As for me I know am igbo and don't care what yall so called core igbos think, to you guys even igbos in rivers, benue and kogi yes kogi ain't igbos, hypocrite
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by okenta2017: 11:27pm On Sep 24, 2017
Efewestern:
need I remind you that urhobo are still located in Delta south, so no fear whatsoever, urhobo voted massively for your son uduagha during the last 2 governorship election, if there are any people to be scared it is definitely not urhobo we are not your enemies and never re we going to be.

waje is still an itseke man and I don't think he is scared of any dominance.
l have a lot of urhobo friends they are not selfish in fact their life style is live and let live, however we have pass that stage now. All we

want now is restructuring. Please don't give our Fulani brothers were to lay their hands and start their divide and rule antics.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Thermodynamics(m): 11:46pm On Sep 24, 2017
Me am from Anioma in Delta state, partly Isoko though. I don't see myself as an Igbo person so Anioma state can be created, but must not be zoned under SE we are south south, and for those of you who think the Urhobos are the largest ethnic group, think again.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 12:01am On Sep 25, 2017
yungmill:
Before you speak bro think. It was you igbos of eastern extraction who started the stupid delta north ain't igbos shit, anytime I meet most of yall and I say am an igbo from delta they just scoff, one almost lost his teeth when he said all igbos west of the Niger are slaves (osu), that's what made most of us to claim we are different like someone from ezi or ukala claiming their village name or animal, so stop playing possum, you guys only see us as part of you guys when you need something, many of you don't even see emefiele and elumelu, as igbos,
As for me I know am igbo and don't care what yall so called core igbos think, to you guys even igbos in rivers, benue and kogi yes kogi ain't igbos, hypocrite
it is an Igbo problem that needs to be solved asap
that's y anioma should b zoned to se

you are not alone tho cos I've experienced it also

I told a lady I'm Igbo from delta state
guess what

she said "that one no be real Igbo na" grin

then she asked my friend close to me his state and he said IMO state...her reply was "ehen that one na Igbo"

anyway I don't feel intimidated @ all infact na me dae even intimidate them grin

anyway one love sha
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 12:04am On Sep 25, 2017
Thermodynamics:
Me am from Anioma in Delta state, partly Isoko though. I don't see myself as an Igbo person so Anioma state can be created, but must not be zoned under SE we are south south, and for those of you who think the Urhobos are the largest ethnic group, think again.
you are speaking for yourself not anioma

most of us don't share same view with you
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 12:07am On Sep 25, 2017
cybeks:
I pity the tribe in Delta state that will share a new state with Itsekiri
Dominated people, that's how they stole Land from uivwe people
I admire itsekiri. A tribe so small in numbers and being neighbours with urhobos and ijaws in a tribal sensitive country like Nigeria, they faced the risks of being rendered insignificant politically and culturally.

I think they showed enough resolve to be reckoned with . It's survival instinct.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 12:17am On Sep 25, 2017
yungmill:
Before you speak bro think. It was you igbos of eastern extraction who started the stupid delta north ain't igbos shit, anytime I meet most of yall and I say am an igbo from delta they just scoff, one almost lost his teeth when he said all igbos west of the Niger are slaves (osu), that's what made most of us to claim we are different like someone from ezi or ukala claiming their village name or animal, so stop playing possum, you guys only see us as part of you guys when you need something, many of you don't even see emefiele and elumelu, as igbos,
As for me I know am igbo and don't care what yall so called core igbos think, to you guys even igbos in rivers, benue and kogi yes kogi ain't igbos, hypocrite
This is why igbos are politically dispensable in Nigeria. Majority of them are so ignorant of their evolution it's a wonder they are counted as one of the 3 largest tribes in Nigeria.

While the Yorubas accept and acknowledge his Yoruba brother form Kogi and Kwara, the dumb Igbo man doesn't know even some dialect spoken in delta are more Igbo centrally than some in Enugu and IMO.

What a shame!!!
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 1:48am On Sep 25, 2017
Thermodynamics:
Me am from Anioma in Delta state, partly Isoko though. I don't see myself as an Igbo person so Anioma state can be created, but must not be zoned under SE we are south south, and for those of you who think the Urhobos are the largest ethnic group, think again.
Since when is landmass equal to population density?

Besides this map of yours fails to account for Urhobos in Delta South and Bayelsa State.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by SlayerForever: 2:46am On Sep 25, 2017
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murphyibiam15:
frathermathy I have been following your write-ups on nairaland and I must commend you for representing urhobo.. that's by the way..
if anioma state should be created it will remain in SS.. it should not be across the Niger and termed SE... if core easterners need any state it would be constituted from our 5 states Ie Etiti state...we also have adada, Aba, Njaba states as prepositions..

u guys can keep anioma... we no need them now.
[/s]

You're bereft.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by ovieokodhi(m): 3:06am On Sep 25, 2017
fratermathy:
I agree totally. Without prejudice to the good people of Delta North, those of us in Delta South and Central share more in common and should ideally be the ones to constitute a state, with a capital within the region.

Anioma State should be created and zoned to the SE for equity to reign.

I also agree that the oil companies should move their headquarters to the region. It is simply logical to locate the headquarters of an oil company in an oil producing region.
so that the unserious youth will milk the companies dry..
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fr3do(m): 3:43am On Sep 25, 2017
scholes0:
lol so you want SS to have 7 states with a population less than that of the SW that has 6, while the SE remains with just 5?

Anioma should be made and zoned to SE.
Anioma would not agree to that kind of arrangement.
a sixth SE state can be carved out from the current ones.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Thermodynamics(m): 8:56am On Sep 25, 2017
aniomafirstson:
you are speaking for yourself not anioma

most of us don't share same view with you
I don't think so, most of the Aniomas I've met, share the same view with me, we ain't Igbo ma man.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by bibe(m): 9:34am On Sep 25, 2017
giles14:
of all who quoted me your's was most positive n educative,

anioma pple or delta Igbo get annoy wen u refer to dem as Igbo ,so its better we manage ourselves (5 Igbo's states) than trying to make a lost people accept who they are.
Not entirely true, a good number of them address themselves as Igbos. But the stigma of the war sometimes blights the judgement of the rest.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 9:35am On Sep 25, 2017
aniomafirstson:
it is an Igbo problem that needs to be solved asap
that's y anioma should b zoned to se

you are not alone tho cos I've experienced it also

I told a lady I'm Igbo from delta state
guess what

she said "that one no be real Igbo na" grin

then she asked my friend close to me his state and he said IMO state...her reply was "ehen that one na Igbo"

anyway I don't feel intimidated @ all infact na me dae even intimidate them grin

anyway one love sha
Exactly bro, this needs to end the yorubas don't see their brothers from kogi and kwara as inferior but the reverse is our case.

One love bro
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 9:38am On Sep 25, 2017
Shroud:
This is why igbos are politically dispensable in Nigeria. Majority of them are so ignorant of their evolution it's a wonder they are counted as one of the 3 largest tribes in Nigeria.

While the Yorubas accept and acknowledge his Yoruba brother form Kogi and Kwara, the dumb Igbo man doesn't know even some dialect spoken in delta are more Igbo centrally than some in Enugu and IMO.

What a shame!!!
Exactly
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by bibe(m): 9:50am On Sep 25, 2017
yungmill:
Before you speak bro think. It was you igbos of eastern extraction who started the stupid delta north ain't igbos shit, anytime I meet most of yall and I say am an igbo from delta they just scoff, one almost lost his teeth when he said all igbos west of the Niger are slaves (osu), that's what made most of us to claim we are different like someone from ezi or ukala claiming their village name or animal, so stop playing possum, you guys only see us as part of you guys when you need something, many of you don't even see emefiele and elumelu, as igbos,
As for me I know am igbo and don't care what yall so called core igbos think, to you guys even igbos in rivers, benue and kogi yes kogi ain't igbos, hypocrite
I think all this started with the war and the stigma of bearing an Igbo or even Igboid tag. Thus most Igbo/Igboid people from the 'newly' created Bendel State and Rivers State tended to reject the Igbo tag for survival sake. Unfortunately it has festered for longer than it should.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Myself2(m): 9:57am On Sep 25, 2017
cybeks:
Pls don't forget that, it is the influence of the urhobo that makes the immediate past governor and present governors won their election.
huh
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Myself2(m): 10:01am On Sep 25, 2017
Thermodynamics:
Me am from Anioma in Delta state, partly Isoko though. I don't see myself as an Igbo person so Anioma state can be created, but must not be zoned under SE we are south south, and for those of you who think the Urhobos are the largest ethnic group, think again.
Excellent
Well done
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 10:05am On Sep 25, 2017
bibe:
I think all this started with the war and the stigma of bearing an Igbo or even Igboid tag. Thus most Igbo/Igboid people from the 'newly' created Bendel State and Rivers State tended to reject the Igbo tag for survival sake. Unfortunately it has festered for longer than it should.
You maybe right to some extent as that is the case with the ikwerres but not so with those West of the 9ja, even my dad experienced what I said earlier, some of the eastern igbos I have met see us more as impure breed with ancestry from other tribes in delta up to Benin, or conquered people of Benin empire how stupid.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by bibe(m): 10:16am On Sep 25, 2017
yungmill:
You maybe right to some extent as that is the case with the ikwerres but not so with those West of the 9ja, even my dad experienced what I said earlier, some of the eastern igbos I have met see us more as impure breed with ancestry from other tribes in delta up to Benin, or conquered people of Benin empire how stupid.
The eastern Igbos you speak of are people who are actually ignorant and deficient in history. To start with, what identifies you and traces your origin is your name generally speaking. All this Delta, Anambra, Rivers are recent concoctions.

Anioma, even in name is Igbo meaning Good land. Her inhabitants bear names of Igbo origins so that effectively tells you their roots.

I really blame ignorance and lack of attention to history.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 10:29am On Sep 25, 2017
bibe:
The eastern Igbos you speak of are people who are actually ignorant and deficient in history. To start with, what identifies you and traces your origin is your name generally speaking. All this Delta, Anambra, Rivers are recent concoctions.

Anioma, even in name is Igbo meaning Good land. Her inhabitants bear names of Igbo origins so that effectively tells you their roots.

I really blame ignorance and lack of attention to history.
My brother I tire, they termed the first coup Igbo coup because ironsi took over forgetting that it was major chukwuma kaduna nzeogwu that led the coup but died in the process, they never make reference to him at all, most of the top generals there were of delta extraction like achuzia, betrayed us by blowing up the bridge and left us for dead, they only recognize us when they need us look at how they claim okocha is from Enugu when in fact he is from my maternal side ogwanri now ogwashi ukwu, same way they claim other influencial personalities of Igbo extraction when it suits them but reject us if it does meet their aim like they rejected the MD of nnpc, hypocrites everywhere
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 11:07am On Sep 25, 2017
The idea proposed by our elders is not a bad one.But I would have prefer a state solely made up of Urhobos that will comprise of all the 24 Urhobo kingdoms( Okere-Urhobo and Agbarha-Ame inclusive).But the possibility of state creation is bleak for now.
What we really need now is re-orientation of our mindset.That is undergoing chemotherapy to kill the cancerous growth of corruption in our mind.
If this is not done,things will still be the same irrespective of more states been created.Learning from South Sudan.
As for my Itsekiri brothers saying that we Urhobos will marginalize them.You guys should know that Urhobos are very accommodating and jolly good fellows.You will hardly see an Itsekiri of Warri that doesn't have an Urhobo blood.We have accommodated them in the past and till date.
I love Nigeria and it pains me that we are still a third world country because of the cancerous growth of corruption that has spread too deep in Nigeria's cells.
What is the way forward?
Let's do the right thing in our various niches.
Let's put aside hate talk and see ourselves as fellow country brothers.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Thermodynamics(m): 11:12am On Sep 25, 2017
yungmill:
My brother I tire, they termed the first coup Igbo coup because ironsi took over forgetting that it was major chukwuma kaduna nzeogwu that led the coup but died in the process, they never make reference to him at all, most of the top generals there were of delta extraction like achuzia, betrayed us by blowing up the bridge and left us for dead, they only recognize us when they need us look at how they claim okocha is from Enugu when in fact he is from my maternal side ogwanri now ogwashi ukwu, same way they claim other influencial personalities of Igbo extraction when it suits them but reject us if it does meet their aim like they rejected the MD of nnpc, hypocrites everywhere
wow, it's true, never knew jay jay Okocha was from Ogwash in Delta state, Igbo tribe just de cover us, anybody when de answer Obi or Ngozi or Uche na SE, rubbish, na so Igbo do de claim Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, when she is actually a daughter of Anioma.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by bibe(m):
yungmill:
My brother I tire, they termed the first coup Igbo coup because ironsi took over forgetting that it was major chukwuma kaduna nzeogwu that led the coup but died in the process, they never make reference to him at all, most of the top generals there were of delta extraction like achuzia, betrayed us by blowing up the bridge and left us for dead, they only recognize us when they need us look at how they claim okocha is from Enugu when in fact he is from my maternal side ogwanri now ogwashi ukwu, same way they claim other influencial personalities of Igbo extraction when it suits them but reject us if it does meet their aim like they rejected the MD of nnpc, hypocrites everywhere
I've actually taken it as a personal objective to engage Igbos from the SE and SS and to reorient our thinking. I once met a friend now who's from Agbor, his name is Ifeanyi but when I said oh you're Igbo he said he wasn't. After much dialogue he admitted his brother sees himself as Igbo but he himself doesn't. Our engagement changed his orientation to an extent. I recall using this same Nzeogwu reference.

However I met another again from Delta (aniocha part), his name was Chukwurah, he plainly told me he was Igbo and wouldn't even entertain a 'Delta Igbo' tag. Like I said the effect of the war led to denials which has also made the Igbos from the SE to see Igbos in the 'newly' created bendel and rivers (SS) in a stereotypical way.
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