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| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fr3do(m): 10:21pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
giles14:lost people? who is this one! what condescension! the anioma people do not need your approval. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 10:23pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
fr3do:Many people believe that they're in igboland once the cross the bridge into Onitsha and this misconception has to change SE needs presence on both side of the Niger |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fr3do(m): 10:32pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
aniomafirstson:SE is just a contraption, what you might want to refer to, is the larger Igbo people - which stretch to delta, edo, river and even benue states etc. we can all work together without being confined to one region. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by omohayek: 10:32pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
davidif:As long as states can expect their primary sources of funds to come from the FG, rather than from state taxes, all the incentives will continue to point in the direction of clamoring for yet more "states", so new groups can get their own share of the "national cake". Nigeria's entire political and economic structure makes no sense, as it rewards all the worst tendencies while discouraging the better ones; the sorts of reforms that will be necessary to make a change for the better are so drastic, and will have such a negative impact on many of the Nigerian elite, that even those from many parts currently demanding "restructuring" will quickly change their tune completely. Outside of a few places like Lagos and (to some extent) Ogun, the average Nigerian born after 1967 has no first-hand experience of living in a political unit that even comes close to being self-supporting. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by GreenCap: 10:39pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
but the 2014 confab proposed 18 new states... Anioma to retain Asaba and Delta goes with Warri igboid rivers upland gets Orashi state and rivers lowland to bear Rivers state idomas Apa moves to Oturkpo and tivs Benue keeps Makurdi Ogoja, formerly the provincial headquarter of Abakaliki, exit Cross River Adada can have Nsukka as capital and so on NW +2, NE +3, NC +3 SW +3, SS +3, SE +4 Igbos will be blessed with 11 states: 9 from SE and 2 from SS the Eastern heartland Imo retains Owerri Njaba to Orlu Etiti to Okigwe all these naming of states after rivers should flow riches across the land... Ogun, Ondo, Osun Sokoto, Kano, Zamfara Kaduna, Gurara, Katagum Niger, Benue, Gongola Anambra, Imo, Ebonyi Orashi, Njaba, Adada Cross, aQua Iboe, Bayelsa proudly Imo state |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 10:41pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
fr3do:it will extend the geographical landscape of Southeast and Asaba would be a great economic addition. besides why do you want anioma zoned to SS ? |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 10:59pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Urhobo people sef dry claim oil. How many oil producing communities dem get. Abeg make dis oil do dry, it's of no use to Nigeria. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by scholes0(m): 11:08pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
fr3do:lol so you want SS to have 7 states with a population less than that of the SW that has 6, while the SE remains with just 5? Anioma should be made and zoned to SE. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 11:09pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
giles14:Before you speak bro think. It was you igbos of eastern extraction who started the stupid delta north ain't igbos shit, anytime I meet most of yall and I say am an igbo from delta they just scoff, one almost lost his teeth when he said all igbos west of the Niger are slaves (osu), that's what made most of us to claim we are different like someone from ezi or ukala claiming their village name or animal, so stop playing possum, you guys only see us as part of you guys when you need something, many of you don't even see emefiele and elumelu, as igbos, As for me I know am igbo and don't care what yall so called core igbos think, to you guys even igbos in rivers, benue and kogi yes kogi ain't igbos, hypocrite |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by okenta2017: 11:27pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Efewestern:l have a lot of urhobo friends they are not selfish in fact their life style is live and let live, however we have pass that stage now. All we want now is restructuring. Please don't give our Fulani brothers were to lay their hands and start their divide and rule antics. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Thermodynamics(m): 11:46pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Me am from Anioma in Delta state, partly Isoko though. I don't see myself as an Igbo person so Anioma state can be created, but must not be zoned under SE we are south south, and for those of you who think the Urhobos are the largest ethnic group, think again.
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| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 12:01am On Sep 25, 2017 |
yungmill:it is an Igbo problem that needs to be solved asap that's y anioma should b zoned to se you are not alone tho cos I've experienced it also I told a lady I'm Igbo from delta state guess what she said "that one no be real Igbo na" ![]() then she asked my friend close to me his state and he said IMO state...her reply was "ehen that one na Igbo" anyway I don't feel intimidated @ all infact na me dae even intimidate them ![]() anyway one love sha |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 12:04am On Sep 25, 2017 |
Thermodynamics:you are speaking for yourself not anioma most of us don't share same view with you |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 12:07am On Sep 25, 2017 |
cybeks:I admire itsekiri. A tribe so small in numbers and being neighbours with urhobos and ijaws in a tribal sensitive country like Nigeria, they faced the risks of being rendered insignificant politically and culturally. I think they showed enough resolve to be reckoned with . It's survival instinct. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 12:17am On Sep 25, 2017 |
yungmill:This is why igbos are politically dispensable in Nigeria. Majority of them are so ignorant of their evolution it's a wonder they are counted as one of the 3 largest tribes in Nigeria. While the Yorubas accept and acknowledge his Yoruba brother form Kogi and Kwara, the dumb Igbo man doesn't know even some dialect spoken in delta are more Igbo centrally than some in Enugu and IMO. What a shame!!! |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 1:48am On Sep 25, 2017 |
Thermodynamics:Since when is landmass equal to population density? Besides this map of yours fails to account for Urhobos in Delta South and Bayelsa State. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by SlayerForever: 2:46am On Sep 25, 2017 |
[s] murphyibiam15:[/s] You're bereft. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by ovieokodhi(m): 3:06am On Sep 25, 2017 |
fratermathy:so that the unserious youth will milk the companies dry.. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fr3do(m): 3:43am On Sep 25, 2017 |
scholes0:Anioma would not agree to that kind of arrangement. a sixth SE state can be carved out from the current ones. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Thermodynamics(m): 8:56am On Sep 25, 2017 |
aniomafirstson:I don't think so, most of the Aniomas I've met, share the same view with me, we ain't Igbo ma man. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by bibe(m): 9:34am On Sep 25, 2017 |
giles14:Not entirely true, a good number of them address themselves as Igbos. But the stigma of the war sometimes blights the judgement of the rest. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 9:35am On Sep 25, 2017 |
aniomafirstson:Exactly bro, this needs to end the yorubas don't see their brothers from kogi and kwara as inferior but the reverse is our case. One love bro |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 9:38am On Sep 25, 2017 |
Shroud:Exactly |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by bibe(m): 9:50am On Sep 25, 2017 |
yungmill:I think all this started with the war and the stigma of bearing an Igbo or even Igboid tag. Thus most Igbo/Igboid people from the 'newly' created Bendel State and Rivers State tended to reject the Igbo tag for survival sake. Unfortunately it has festered for longer than it should. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Myself2(m): 9:57am On Sep 25, 2017 |
cybeks: ![]() |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Myself2(m): 10:01am On Sep 25, 2017 |
Thermodynamics:Excellent Well done |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 10:05am On Sep 25, 2017 |
bibe:You maybe right to some extent as that is the case with the ikwerres but not so with those West of the 9ja, even my dad experienced what I said earlier, some of the eastern igbos I have met see us more as impure breed with ancestry from other tribes in delta up to Benin, or conquered people of Benin empire how stupid. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by bibe(m): 10:16am On Sep 25, 2017 |
yungmill:The eastern Igbos you speak of are people who are actually ignorant and deficient in history. To start with, what identifies you and traces your origin is your name generally speaking. All this Delta, Anambra, Rivers are recent concoctions. Anioma, even in name is Igbo meaning Good land. Her inhabitants bear names of Igbo origins so that effectively tells you their roots. I really blame ignorance and lack of attention to history. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by yungmill(m): 10:29am On Sep 25, 2017 |
bibe:My brother I tire, they termed the first coup Igbo coup because ironsi took over forgetting that it was major chukwuma kaduna nzeogwu that led the coup but died in the process, they never make reference to him at all, most of the top generals there were of delta extraction like achuzia, betrayed us by blowing up the bridge and left us for dead, they only recognize us when they need us look at how they claim okocha is from Enugu when in fact he is from my maternal side ogwanri now ogwashi ukwu, same way they claim other influencial personalities of Igbo extraction when it suits them but reject us if it does meet their aim like they rejected the MD of nnpc, hypocrites everywhere |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 11:07am On Sep 25, 2017 |
The idea proposed by our elders is not a bad one.But I would have prefer a state solely made up of Urhobos that will comprise of all the 24 Urhobo kingdoms( Okere-Urhobo and Agbarha-Ame inclusive).But the possibility of state creation is bleak for now. What we really need now is re-orientation of our mindset.That is undergoing chemotherapy to kill the cancerous growth of corruption in our mind. If this is not done,things will still be the same irrespective of more states been created.Learning from South Sudan. As for my Itsekiri brothers saying that we Urhobos will marginalize them.You guys should know that Urhobos are very accommodating and jolly good fellows.You will hardly see an Itsekiri of Warri that doesn't have an Urhobo blood.We have accommodated them in the past and till date. I love Nigeria and it pains me that we are still a third world country because of the cancerous growth of corruption that has spread too deep in Nigeria's cells. What is the way forward? Let's do the right thing in our various niches. Let's put aside hate talk and see ourselves as fellow country brothers. |
| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Thermodynamics(m): 11:12am On Sep 25, 2017 |
yungmill:wow, it's true, never knew jay jay Okocha was from Ogwash in Delta state, Igbo tribe just de cover us, anybody when de answer Obi or Ngozi or Uche na SE, rubbish, na so Igbo do de claim Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, when she is actually a daughter of Anioma.
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| Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by bibe(m): 11:13am On Sep 25, 2017*. Modified: 11:42am On Sep 25, 2017 |
yungmill:I've actually taken it as a personal objective to engage Igbos from the SE and SS and to reorient our thinking. I once met a friend now who's from Agbor, his name is Ifeanyi but when I said oh you're Igbo he said he wasn't. After much dialogue he admitted his brother sees himself as Igbo but he himself doesn't. Our engagement changed his orientation to an extent. I recall using this same Nzeogwu reference. However I met another again from Delta (aniocha part), his name was Chukwurah, he plainly told me he was Igbo and wouldn't even entertain a 'Delta Igbo' tag. Like I said the effect of the war led to denials which has also made the Igbos from the SE to see Igbos in the 'newly' created bendel and rivers (SS) in a stereotypical way. |
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