₦airaland Forum

PointB:
Make no mistake, you can't kill them all. One is bound to succeed sooner or later, and some of these soldiers will have to answer to international community. Politics and interest change very quickly especially in this part of the world. Don't get caught in international crime like genocide and crime against humanity.

Government cannot shield your forever. Ask Charles Taylor, Laurent Gbagbo etc.

oga forget international community, what have they done to the likes of the syrian president, Nigeria is not a kid in the international community to be bullied. There are lots of international interests in Nigeria, you know how many billions of dollars they make here? No secession agitations can succeed in Nigeria cos we all don't have anywhere to go to be it yoruba, hausa, igbo and all other tribes, agitations will come and go. We Nigerians no too like fight, once we see soldiers on the road na so we go begin shout international community upadan, is that how to succeed in agitations? forget that thing no naija tribe get liver, na noise we sabi

AlanSugar:
Hahahaha, I like the 10,000 year part! What a short time for it to happen. Pls keep agitating for Biafra!

It's not bad if u couldn't understand what I was saying. The zoo none existing education system is to blamed sir.

eph12:
Stop sounding like a terrorist or are you one of them?

We haven't gotten to the terrorist aspects sir. We still dey the zoo talk.

eph12:
A hundred Kanu cannot achieve Biafra. They will always be seen as louts, hooligans and jobless. But if the struggle is pushed by recognized stakeholders, then they can be taken seriously.

Who are the recognised stakeholders - the govs ? Read the history of revolutions and see how it started from unrecognised stakeholders eg. the Tunisian revolution of 2010 was started by a common street vendor who set fire on himself. And KANU is more than a street vendor. mind u am not from d SE .

kitaatita:
IPOB Senators have succeeded in making Igbo people look stupid and Hausa appear intelligent.

meanwhile it vice versa which u know

magoo10:
Nigeria is such a joke ,abaribes decision to stand surety for KANU was a collective decision of the southeast caucus of the senate.

Was it abaribe that sent the army to invade kanus house even when they knew that he had a pending case that was to come up soon ?

Nigeria's problem is not KANU but shameless and irresponsible leaders who have failed over the years including the dullard in power today.

whether anyone likes it or not the 50years Biafra agitations cannot be stopped by mere rhetorics or name calling,the fundamental issues must be looked into else Nigeria will continue to go in circles.

Story for the gods, Abaribe must produce him if he fails to appear at next court hearing

boldking:
Nigeria is not a country but a dash now let me ask u what are your benefits being a nigerian when d yorubas hav sworn never to let an igbo man rule, see if i hav d opotunity i go run far then renounce naija as my country

Have you ever voted an Igbo for president?

krendo:
This is ridiculous

The federal high court can not require a senator of the federal republic of Nigeria as surety and then turn around to hope that no senator comes forward!

The senate should be asking why the court required a senator in the first place!

They will never look in that direction. And what stopped the FG (Executive, NASS, etc) from acting this proactively with respect to killings and other crimes done by Fulani terrorists? This govt is biased.

Yyeske:
Story for the gods, Abaribe must produce him if he fails to appear at next court hearing

You and I know that you are only joking or not conversant with the law first of all the govt committed contempt of court by invading the house of someone whom they have case in court ,after killing innocent people including his dog he is no where to be found and then you turn around to say you will hold his surety who dropped #100million bail bond .very funny.
If abaribe mobilises his lawyers the federal govt will not only refund his #100million but will also be held responsible for providing Nnamdi KANU in court because according to kanus lawyer ,Nnamdi called him while soldiers were still in his house shooting sporadically.

Goke7:
oga forget international community, what have they done to the likes of the syrian president, Nigeria is not a kid in the international community to be bullied. There are lots of international interests in Nigeria, you know how many billions of dollars they make here? No secession agitations can succeed in Nigeria cos we all don't have anywhere to go to be it yoruba, hausa, igbo and all other tribes, agitations will come and go. We Nigerians no too like fight, once we see soldiers on the road na so we go begin shout international community upadan, is that how to succeed in agitations? forget that thing no naija tribe get liver, na noise we sabi

Dont mind those terrorists, when Nnamdi kanu was calling for killing of Yorubas and Hausas, there was no international community, let them go report to the UN and ICC.

magoo10:
You and I know that you are only joking or not conversant with the law first of all the govt committed contempt of court by invading the house of someone whom they have case in court ,after killing innocent people including his dog he is no where to be found and then you turn around to say you will hold his surety who dropped #100million bail bond .very funny.
If abaribe mobilises his lawyers the federal govt will not only refund his #100million but will also be held responsible for providing Nnamdi KANU in court because according to Janus lawyer ,Nnamdi called him while soldiers were still in his house shooting sporadically.

Nobody forced Abaribe to stand as a surety for that terrorist, his name and signature is there as proof.
He of course knows the implications if Nnamdi kanu doesn't appear and not the trash you just typed.

Goke7:
oga forget international community, what have they done to the likes of the syrian president, Nigeria is not a kid in the international community to be bullied. There are lots of international interests in Nigeria, you know how many billions of dollars they make here? No secession agitations can succeed in Nigeria cos we all don't have anywhere to go to be it yoruba, hausa, igbo and all other tribes, agitations will come and go. We Nigerians no too like fight, once we see soldiers on the road na so we go begin shout international community upadan, is that how to succeed in agitations? forget that thing no naija tribe get liver, na noise we sabi

You overestimate Nigeria; a gloried joke in the comity of nation.

As per the so-called billions the international community are making, why do you think they wont make same or more in a divided and more prosperous countries that will emerge from the ruin of Nigeria? Yoruba and Hausa may be stuck with Nigeria, some of us are not; and are not afraid of having our own country. So speak for yourself.

eph12:
When their colleagues from the other part of the country at the NA see their seriousness then a national debate can be called and you will be surprised that some of others will join your divide.

What kind of revolution is IPOB aiming for? A violent or peaceful one?

what happened to the previous debates and confabs?.......it was not serious enough?...and who told you people ever bargain to lose gains reached on a higher ground?....lol....politics seems to be alien to you

Nigerian politics more so

AlanSugar:
Agreed on the senators' role but on the parable of starving the goose with the golden eggs to die while its eggs are meant for use elsewhere does not make sense. Think about it, how do you kill the mother and at the same time expect it to bear child so you can use it for errands, is it magic? Going by the derivation formula, all oil-producing states earn more than their non-oil producing counterparts so if Abuja looks better than the any southern part of the country as you opined, then hold your governors responsible. The sooner we all realise this the earlier and better we'd learn where to channel our agitations to.

This not the only reason people are agitating there is more to it . Take for instance, under our education system the south and the north has a stipulated cut off mark for their wards to gain admission into federal unity school which is not encouraging at all. The Southern kids are require to score higher than their Nothern counterpart before they gain admission with the East having the highest court off mark......what does this imply? It simply means that Chinedu, Tamuno and Olamimide are required to score to a stated cut off mark while Isa, Aminu and Aliu are to score less to gain access into same Fedral school.

Let me ask you are the south having a hydra head of a monster why they are bearing one?

Are we not subjected to the same environmental conditions and hazards?

Are we not from same country? Why must they be discordancy in apportioning scores?

I can mention many more, as long as we keep on hiding the truth about inequality of some certain issues or preferential treatment meted to some region or people because they are perceived as illiterates and requires softlanding in life then i bet you we will keep on beign like this.

All these i have observed in almost all the ministries not just education.

Let me reveal part of why I'm supporting Biafra.
No hatred please.
A bit long but beneficial for your vigilance. I'll summarize.
Apart from the genuine reason that self determination is a welcome idea to me and that the whimsically forced union of the independent regions was without consultation with the local potentates, I have other (maybe personal) reason I seriously believe we should allow Igbo's to go.
Let's not force it, it's just not working please.
I'd begin with what I saw some months ago at Ladipo car-parts market.
I took my Toyota Sienna for service and my mechanical engineer decided we should go to Ladipo market to buy the necessary parts.
I agreed.
When we entered the market, I saw many things. These boys are the ones making most of these things with inferior materials by themselves. Infarct, they also took dead parts, muffled some things inside with fake chemicals, spray them paints and voila, they package it as new ones again.
Another time, I took a Volkswagen Golf 3 I just bought for sake of doing only short distance wakawaka, to the same Ladipo market to buy "catalyst" as my engineer called it.
The prices ranged from 8k to 25k for that model of car.
I went for the unit sold at 18k because I felt that would be close to the better and match effectively as average.
After buying and a panel beater was still helping to fix it, I went back there to find a local canteen I had seen around selling Fufu and Eba. The canteen has pieces of net used as demarcation to form of walls which allow for breeze and also enables see-through.
I saw through, another shocking revelation of how these boys were slicing up empty pots, loading copper materials inside and packing the both ends in the pots with tiny sheet of the catalyst. Then they seal it up. What this means is that 80% of the content is the copper material, but if you look from both ends of the sealed pot, you'll see catalyst!
When I challenged one of them about the daylight fraud, he said, unconvincingly; "if we call big price for una to buy full catalyst, you go fit pay?". I nagged, wailed, wailed and wailed but I was almost becoming nuisance. They were all the same doing it in the market and gave me a dismissive shrug; the kind that street boys call "kò Kan ayé".
I later returned for some discreet recording of their fraudulent operations, but the gadget containing that piece of footage and other works was later stolen (another story). But that's not where I'm going.
Tonight, I escaped untimely and avoidable deat by chance/grace/luck -whatever!
I just picked my small Benz CLK from a mechanic shop. I had complained about a sudden strange noise at the front absorbers. After he examined it, he recommended changing the tie rods, ball joints, linkage and some other parts in that system. He told me about a complete pack that contains everything along the steering line as against buying the identified units in pieces.
I preferred the complete pack.
He told me about new one versus tòkunbò.
I preferred the new one.
I did because he told me the new one is original and has not been used, even though it's more expensive.
That was 2 days ago.
I picked the car this afternoon.
I had only driven to Berger from Akoka and was returning, the new complete pack rod broke while I just turned the steering to enter the road from a side I had pulled up. No motion yet; I wasn't speeding and had not entered any craters on the road. Nothing at all that could have triggered a fracture.
I quickly called the mechanic to come and "see the life outside" of the new thing he purchased for me.
When he arrived and saw it, he opened his mouth wide agape.
He examined the rod properly again and confirmed it could only be Aba-made.
I actually saw when he first brought the complete unit before installing. It was packed in a shiny transparent nylon just like the original. He confirmed it's the usual way the product is packed by the maker, but this particular unit, examined after the incident, is an imitation put in the same pack.
He called the seller he bought from immediately. Guess what the seller said; "that means e don enter pothole with the thing! Let him go to church tomorrow and do testimony".
Even if I entered pothole, the old one that was only giving a mildly strange sound NEVER fractured or broke off completely as this supposed new one that hasn't done 150 kilometers
I don't know how many victims they must have killed by selling their Aba made imitations. And those that narrowly escaped must have been "doing testimony" in churches over avoidable or unwarranted crises such as this one.
Please let's all come out and support them to go to their own way. Then, we shut our borders against imitations and fake products. These things should be limited to Aba, Onitcha, Owerri, etc. I also learned they make imitations of the red wines claimed to have been imported. Same way, people must have been consuming fake drugs and dying slowly or quickly.
Enough is enough please, you guys should koman be going to your Biafra land.
We're not doing again, please.
PS: I have great Igbo friends, but this doesn't justify for the acts of the non-challant, fatally fraudulent, kidnapping rogues who care less about lives of others for sake of "making (blood) money.
Segun O'Law.

Yyeske:
Nobody forced Abaribe to stand as a surety for that terrorist, his name and signature is there as proof.
He of course knows the implications if Nnamdi kanu doesn't appear and not the trash you just typed.

one of the conditions given for the bail was that senator will stand surety for him and was done. or were you expecting nobody to sign surety for him? my brother it is like you have been watching too many tyrant films and it is really affecting you.we are in a democracy things are not done the way you think,just like the invasion, which is wrong. even if they wanted to arrest him they should have made application to the courts for a warrant of arrest which should have been easier for them than the show of Shame exhibited .we are not in a banana republic or junta.

lonecatt:
the force is working whether you like it or not,the people in power are now talking of restructuring thanks to nnamdi kanu not people like you who go on pulling others down, the leaders, politicians and traditional rulers will not push for such thing because they are part of those sharing the loots.

Not everybody is your enemy or enemy of the cause oga. I have said this many times on this forum, I believe restructuring or separating is the best way but how we go about it is important.

Atiku, a Northerner, is one of those that have been pushing for restructuring. NK already said he does not want to restructure but referendum

eph12:
Not everybody is your enemy or enemy of the cause oga. I have said this many times on this forum, I believe restructuring or separating is the best way but how we go about it is important.

Atiku, a Northerner, is one of those that have been pushing for restructuring. NK already said he does not want to restructure but referendum

oga even the restructuring you were talking about earlier on was rebuffed by the apc govt with elrufai calling those asking for it as jobless people, the call is thicker now because of nnamdi kanu,whether people like you like it or not nnamdi kanus name will be written in gold in the history of nigeria,he has given voice to the voiceless and people like you who are a nobody but are now talking about restructuring.

AlanSugar:
What ideology are you talking about? Where was this ideology when Jonathan held sway? The unrest in the north east is that of religion and religious unrests are far bigger than you and I can understand let alone discuss. Under economic unrest like liepob or militancy, the twists turn whenever there's a change of interest and if that's the ideology you're addressing here, then I understand you now. These things are normal, everywhere and anywhere in the world, it just depends on whose ox is gored. Change is constant.

What are U saying. Killing people is best solution? Or dividing the nation is the key?

What then is the solution? I think it is job creation, transparency and economic development. What, in your own view is the best solution.

magoo10:
one of the conditions given for the bail was that senator will stand surety for him and was done. or were you expecting nobody to sign surety for him? my brother it is like you have been watching too many tyrant films and it is really affecting you.we are in a democracy things are not done the way you think,just like the invasion, which is wrong. even if they wanted to arrest him they should have made application to the courts for a warrant of arrest which should have been easier for them than the show of Shame exhibited .we are not in a banana republic or junta.

Did the judge rule that it must be Abaribe? Nobody forced him, invasion did I hear you say? Go to the UN and ICC to file your case.

mavinc4u:
I heard Nnamdi Kanu's wife is from Russia? How true is that?

What do you know about government or secession

Max24:
Who are the recognised stakeholders - the govs ? Read the history of revolutions and see how it started from unrecognised stakeholders eg. the Tunisian revolution of 2010 was started by a common street vendor who set fire on himself. And KANU is more than a street vendor. mind u am not from d SE .

I haven't seen Kanu setting himself on fire or going on hunger strike. Asking people not to vote was a great move imo but it was followed with lots of daring and insults. Perception is key bro. The way people see your person and your cause is important here. Imagine if Igbos boycott the Anambra election, that would be a bigger statement than insulting everybody.

Yyeske:
Did the judge rule that it must be Abaribe? Nobody forced him, invasion did I hear you say? Go to the UN and ICC to file your case.

After the invasion what did they achieve?absolutely nothing,and you are looking for the surety to hold? funny.
I have told you that you watch too many tyrant films and it is disturbing you.Nigeria is presently in a Democratic rule and not military .the Nigeria police are the institution mandated to maintain peace and order.

lonecatt:
oga even the restructuring you were talking about earlier on was rebuffed by the apc govt with elrufai calling those asking for it as jobless people, the call is thicker now because of nnamdi kanu,whether people like you like it or not nnamdi kanus name will be written in gold in the history of nigeria,he has given voice to the voiceless and people like you who are a nobody but are now talking about restructuring.

The same Rufia hasn't changed his stance FYI. Writing NK name in gold is not at stake here, but the Biafra movement. If you want to deify him that's your wrap of okpa, I'm not interested in that.

eph12:
The same Rufia hasn't changed his stance FYI. Writing NK name in gold is not at stake here, but the Biafra movement. If you want to deify him that's your wrap of okpa, I'm not interested in that.

if you want to chop okpa that is your own cup of akam, is elrufai your god? if you read newspapers you will clearly see that northerners have agreed to dialogue on restructuring but said they do not want to be intimidated ,i am very sure the northern governors who visited the east last week have been told by the eastern governors that restructuring must be done for peace thanks to nnamdi kanu. whatever hatred you have for him will not remove a pinch of hair from his body.
who doesnt know that the voice of restructuring is loder now?thanks to nnamdi kanu

okochaik:
Biafra needs to Ally with Russia at all cost. Once done Biafra actualization will be very easy

Russian will never support a rebellion

Dailytrust pants on fire as senator Abaribe said on the senate floor today that nothing as such was discussed as reported by dailytrust.

airminem:
Now I see you as a strange mix of someone angry , yet apathetic. But mostly just pathetic.

please what are you trying to buttress?

Goke7:
so says your lordship anyway PMB should not be your worry now, how abaribe will maneuver this should of utmost concern now, no be everything be gra gra. I was one of those who felt the SE senators were too much in a hurry in the kanu bail matter, all legal considerations must have been well thought out but how come Theodore orji who is the senator representing kanu's constituency did not stand as surety for kanu? that he was out of town shouldn't have been an excuse. I think many folks would have learnt their lesson now including all of us

Abaribe has nothing to worry about.

Those who kidnapped or killed Nnamdi will have to answer first before Abaribe.

PointB:
You overestimate Nigeria; a gloried joke in the comity of nation.

As per the so-called billions the international community are making, why do you think they wont make same or more in a divided and more prosperous countries that will emerge from the ruin of Nigeria? Yoruba and Hausa may be stuck with Nigeria, some of us are not; and are not afraid of having our own country. So speak for yourself.

that is what you and your kits and kin think but to Google, Facebook and co they don't agree with you, naija is the next big thing as far as they are concerned, the Nigerian market is something they don't easily see else where, you how many multinational IT firms are this country making megabucks? check wikipedia, Nigeria is an emerging world power. You think PMB and other leaders are making noise at the UN for nothing? My guy cure your ignorance fast. Nigeria may be in ruins to you and that's the lie some deceptive politicians have sold to you so you can continue to languish in lack while they smile to the banks. You want to have your country indeed? Next time when you see soldiers on your street, stand up to them and stop shouting for help upandan, then we know you are serious instead of all these empty boasts and noise

THE LEGALITY AND/OR OTHERWISE OF SURETIES TO THE LEADER OF IPOB (NNAMDI KANU) TO SHOW CAUSE:
It can be a horrendous nightmare for a Surety when an accused person bailed out by him (by execution of a bail bond) in a criminal proceeding, absconds.
*The Consequences to Surety when the Accused Absconds
When an accused person on bail fails to attend Court as required, the following consequences follow:
1. The DPP would apply to the Court to issue a warrant of arrest against the accused.
2. The surety would then be asked to show cause why the surety bond he had executed for the appearance of the accused should not be forfeited.
3. The Court will then adjourn the matter for further mention on another date for the Surety to show cause.
4. At the show cause mention, if no cause is shown, the Surety will be provided an opportunity to make a plea in mitigation as to why not all of the bail sum should be forfeited.
5. At the same mention date, the warrant of arrest would also be reviewed.
***The Legal Nature of a Bail Bond***
As to the nature of the obligations entered into by a Surety when a bail bond is executed
The extent of the surety’s obligation under the bond is determined by the terms of the bond. A surety bond is no different from a guarantee given in a civil contract. Any breach of the conditions of the bond gives rise to a forfeiture and the amount forfeited is in the nature of a civil debt. Under … the Criminal Procedure Acts, this debt is enforceable by the Court by issuing a warrant for the attachment and sale of the property belonging to that person but this remedy does not prevent the Government from enforcing the bond under the Government Proceedings Act… Therefore ordinary principles of construction apply in the interpretation of the terms of the bond to determine the extent of the surety’s obligation thereunder.

******Show Cause***
If the Surety appears in Court on the date of the mention when the accused’s attendance was required (but on which date the latter did not attend but absconded), the Surety would be informed by the Court that he has an opportunity to show cause why the bail sum should not be paid and a “show cause” proceeding for that purpose would be fixed at the next mention date.
If the Surety too does not attend Court on the mention date, a “Notice to Show Cause” will be sent to the address of the Surety to be present at the “show cause” proceeding mention date.
At the mention to show cause proceeding (commonly known as “Surety to Show Cause”),in theory, it is possible, in exceptional circumstances, to successfully show cause why the bail sum should not be forfeited. For example, where: (i) a medical certificate is produced stating that the accused was medically unfit to attend Court on the relevant date and time; or (ii) the accused is in lawful custody, ie arrested and in the custody of the police or admitted to a Drug Rehabilitation Centre or remanded or serving sentence in a prison.
In all of these situations, the fact that the accused is (or would be) found clearly plays a crucial part. Needless to say, if the accused has not been found on the show cause mention date, it is unlikely that the show cause point would even arise.
Of course, if the Surety connived at the disappearance of the accused or aided it or abetted it, or was wanting in due diligence to secure his appearance, he will have no chance of showing cause.
In practice, in most cases, however, any attempt at showing cause by the surety would almost invariably fail.
IN THE CASE OF NNAMDI KANU:
1.NNAMDI KANU'S bail is still running when the army invaded his house.
2.Nnamdi Kanu's perceived bail violation has not been decided upon by the court that granted same.
3.Since his house invasion by the military, he has been left incommunicado
4.No one is aware of his whereabouts since the invasion.
5.His organization has been proscribed by the govt and the legal implication is that no one should associate with him even his sureties..
SUMMATION
The notion that his sureties will forfeit the bonds is neither here nor there.
The sureties don’t even have a heavy burden to show court as the reason why KANU may not be in court is in the public domain and any juristic conscience will decide otherwise.
#MYHUMBLESUBMISSION#@IKERIOKEYJUSTICE#

PointB:
Abaribe has nothing to worry about.

Those who kidnapped or killed Nnamdi will have to answer first before Abaribe.

because abaribe is the President of biafra abi