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Re: Atheist Logic by Richirich713: 8:31am On Sep 20, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
FTFY again

BTW, who's talking about Darwin?

Meant dawkins, who usual uses the God of the gaps excuse instead of dealing with the arguments by refuting the premises.

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Re: Atheist Logic by hopefulLandlord: 8:41am On Sep 20, 2017

Richirich713:
Meant dawkins, who usual uses the God of the gaps excuse instead of dealing with the arguments by refuting the premises.

what are one such arguments with good premises?

Cosmological argument, aka universe exists, therefore god

Moral argument aka something something god is good, therefore god

teleological argument aka something something the earth life, therefore god

its easy to see that these and others are all god of the gaps, the premises are only put there to make it sound philosophically good to the sheeples

I may not agree with Dawkins' methods but I agree with his cutting of the bullsheet, Apologists think that because we can't explain everything about how the "insert anything here" exists that proves God, its a wild goose chase that nobody should take serious

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Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:07pm On Sep 20, 2017

finofaya:

God is more wonderful than this pitiful sandcastle and he came out of nowhere. If marvellous God can do it in no time, I think the pitiful sandcastle should have done it in even less time.

Evolution is not 'atheist logic".

Can you account for the existence of the laws of logic, how did it come about?

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:09pm On Sep 20, 2017

obinna58:
Logics

Can there be a law without a lawgiver? Why are the laws of logic immaterial and universal? cool

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:14pm On Sep 20, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
FTFY

Same question goes to you. Tell us why the laws of logic do not change with time. undecided

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:17pm On Sep 20, 2017

obinna58:
The thread is about logic, you know deep down it's real true but still you just want to derail the thread
Hehehe
Dude don't want to give up

How did humans know about the laws and properties of logic?

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:27pm On Sep 20, 2017

HCpaul:
Stop pushing things...... I stopped taking life serious when I read a book. The book affirm that the universe is made up of stories not atoms, created by ideas and not by any myths or deities.

These stories are of two major types:

1. Stories that touches

2. Stories that works.

Religions are stories that touches and that is why it targets human emotions and not their mind knowing that when humans are emotionally captured they cannot be mentally vibrant.

Science on the other hand are stories that works and that is why we are having all manner of scientific lyrics and philosophical tales yet these stories works. That is what Stephen Hawkins was referring to when he said that science will win because it works.

These stories has digressed from being one of those lenses and dimensions of reality but has become reality themselves.

Some months back, I thought that it was only God that is homocentric but I have gotten to realize now that humans are.

Religious people portrayed God in the image of mankind...... Scientists are also victims because they also portrayed intelligent aliens with this same image of mankind.

I am beginning to love religion but I hate and detest the bigots behind it. I dislike people that take religion to head. It's obvious that true religion are born out of ancient traditions and ideology but some ignorant minds of the twenty-first century still take religion to head. people with no significant impact want to live forever.

By the way

Back to the OP. How does the laws of logic make sense? Can you account for the laws of logic? Does it make sense within the atheist worldview? undecided

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:32pm On Sep 20, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
what are one such arguments with good premises?

Cosmological argument, aka universe exists, therefore god

Moral argument aka something something god is good, therefore god

teleological argument aka something something the earth life, therefore god

its easy to see that these and others are all god of the gaps, the premises are only put there to make it sound philosophically good to the sheeples

I may not agree with Dawkins' methods but I agree with his cutting of the bullsheet, Apologists think that because we can't explain everything about how the "insert anything here" exists that proves God, its a wild goose chase that nobody should take serious

We call it the transcendental argument for God. cool

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Re: Atheist Logic by johnydon22(m): 6:04pm On Sep 20, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
FTFY again

BTW, who's talking about Darwin?

I am writing a long rebuttal that addresses this type of argument for the design theory.

Re: Atheist Logic by hopefulLandlord: 6:09pm On Sep 20, 2017

johnydon22:
I am writing a long rebuttal that addresses this type of argument for the design theory.

interesting, would it be on another thread or here?

Re: Atheist Logic by johnydon22(m): 6:13pm On Sep 20, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
interesting, would it be on another thread or here?

Another thread

Re: Atheist Logic by Niflheim(m): 6:14pm On Sep 20, 2017*

WOW!!! I just face-palmed, then vomited and fainted when I saw this thread!!! It is like that massive dung that always seems to refuse to get flushed down the toilet!!! I mean, can people still bring up such assumptions in the 21st century?!!! Every law has a lawgiver? For real?!!!

When you bring up old, lame, tired and worn out arguments like, "can there be a law without a law giver?", you actually cause yourself(and your entire religion), a great disservice!!!

You just committed a 'foul' in the 'philosophical playground' that deserves an immediate expulsion/sending off from the field of play(this foul is known as a "FALLACY OF EQUIVOCATION" ) , for it is only a "dung distributor" that will confuse descriptive laws(natural laws) with prescriptive laws(man made dung written on a piece of paper that can be broken at anytime)!!!

NATURAL LAWS ARE "DESCRIPTONS", THEY ARE NOT RULES!!!

Re: Atheist Logic by hopefulLandlord: 6:18pm On Sep 20, 2017

johnydon22:
Another thread

that's good, kindly mention me when you do

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Re: Atheist Logic by johnydon22(m): 8:06pm On Sep 20, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
that's good, kindly mention me when you do

done

https://www.nairaland.com/4068154/argument-design-replying-olaadegbus-thread#60664661

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 2:40pm On Sep 29, 2017*

Niflheim:
WOW!!! I just face-palmed, then vomited and fainted when I saw this thread!!! It is like that massive dung that always seems to refuse to get flushed down the toilet!!! I mean, can people still bring up such assumptions in the 21st century?!!! Every law has a lawgiver? For real?!!!

If you object can you then account for the laws of logic in your atheistic worldview? I can see that your cronies have all scampered away at the sight of those questions. cheesy

Niflheim:
When you bring up old, lame, tired and worn out arguments like, "can there be a law without a law giver?", you actually cause yourself(and your entire religion), a great disservice!!!

It is up to you to answer the question or just usual your usual escape route of I don't know. cool

Niflheim:
You just committed a 'foul' in the 'philosophical playground' that deserves an immediate expulsion/sending off from the field of play(this foul is known as a "FALLACY OF EQUIVOCATION" ) , for it is only a "dung distributor" that will confuse descriptive laws(natural laws) with prescriptive laws(man made dung written on a piece of paper that can be broken at anytime)!!!

Try jumping out of an aeroplane or tower block if you insist that there is nothing like the law of gravity.

Niflheim:
NATURAL LAWS ARE "DESCRIPTONS", THEY ARE NOT RULES!!!

The questions regarding the laws of logic are worldview questions that stop you atheists in your tracks. They expose the inconsistencies in your worldview since you are unable to account for the existence and nature of laws. cheesy

Re: Atheist Logic by Niflheim(m): 5:31pm On Sep 29, 2017

@olaadegbu,

Sometimes I question your mental health status!!! For there was nowhere where I said that laws of Gravity can be broken, I WAS SPEAKING OF THE "PRESCRIPTIVE LAWS" LIKE THE DUNG THAT IS WRITTEN IN YOUR BIBLE!!! I WROTE IN PLAIN ENGLISH AND YOU STILL MISQUOTE ME?

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Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:34pm On Sep 29, 2017

Niflheim:
@olaadegbu,

Sometimes I question your mental health status!!! For there was nowhere where I said that laws of Gravity can be broken, I WAS SPEAKING OF THE "PRESCRIPTIVE LAWS" LIKE THE DUNG THAT IS WRITTEN IN YOUR BIBLE!!! I WROTE IN PLAIN ENGLISH AND YOU STILL MISQUOTE ME?

It is rather the atheists that are suffering from intellectual schizophrenia otherwise you wouldn't be logically inconsistent when it comes to the laws of logic. cool

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 2:09pm On Oct 29, 2018

OLAADEGBU:
This sandscale came about by chance after millions of years of erosion. Genius.

Evolution is a Lie

Irony. Atheists often claim that the Bible and God were all made up. Yet it's predictions are always spot on. It may never address evolution directly (rock aka fossil record and animal aka we are all animals worship) because the word did not exist yet. But it is addressed more than once indirectly.

Roman 1 addresses not only the worship of the creation (animals) instead of the Creator. But it also indirectly addresses Theistic evolution when it says: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Because the only people who can change God's word into a lie are those who mix this with God's word. Atheists do not believe in God nor His word so they do not do this.

Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
~ Issac

Source: https://www.facebook.com/EvolutionIsALie/ 28 October 2017 ·

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Re: Atheist Logic by Nobody: 2:58pm On Oct 29, 2018

nice one OLADEGBU

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 6:07pm On Oct 30, 2018

solite3:
nice one OLADEGBU

Remain blessed.

Re: Atheist Logic by LordReed(m): 10:08pm On Oct 30, 2018

OLAADEGBU:
Evolution is a Lie

Irony. Atheists often claim that the Bible and God were all made up. Yet it's predictions are always spot on. It may never address evolution directly (rock aka fossil record and animal aka we are all animals worship) because the word did not exist yet. But it is addressed more than once indirectly.

Roman 1 addresses not only the worship of the creation (animals) instead of the Creator. But it also indirectly addresses Theistic evolution when it says: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Because the only people who can change God's word into a lie are those who mix this with God's word. Atheists do not believe in God nor His word so they do not do this.

Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
~ Issac

Source: https://www.facebook.com/EvolutionIsALie/ 28 October 2017 ·

Evolution is a lie but God created dinosaurs. LoLz!

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 2:39pm On Nov 07, 2018

LordReed:
Evolution is a lie but God created dinosaurs. LoLz!

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Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:07pm On Feb 26, 2024

Adam or ape?

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:44pm On Feb 27, 2024

OLAADEGBU:
If you object can you then account for the laws of logic in your atheistic worldview? I can see that your cronies have all scampered away at the sight of those questions.

It is up to you to answer the question or just usual your usual escape route of I don't know.

Try jumping out of an aeroplane or tower block if you insist that there is nothing like the law of gravity.

The questions regarding the laws of logic are worldview questions that stop you atheists in your tracks. They expose the inconsistencies in your worldview since you are unable to account for the existence and nature of laws.

Morality and the Irrationality of an Evolutionary Worldview

https://answersingenesis.org/morality/morality-and-the-irrationality-of-an-evolutionary-worldview/

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 6:06pm On Feb 28, 2024

OLAADEGBU:
Morality and the Irrationality of an Evolutionary Worldview

https://answersingenesis.org/morality/morality-and-the-irrationality-of-an-evolutionary-worldview/

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 7:56pm On Mar 26*

God’s Logic 2.0

https://x.com/godlogic_gl/status/2036907522305495344?s=61

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 10:49pm On Mar 26

https://t.co/nEBQLPIkC5 pic.twitter.com/K5LvPqOYeF
— GodLogic_GL (@GodLogic_GL) March 25, 2026

Re: Atheist Logic by jaephoenix(m): 12:06pm On Mar 27

OLAADEGBU:
This sandscale came about by chance after millions of years of erosion. Genius.

So which god created the universe and why should I believe yours out of the thousands of gods

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Re: Atheist Logic by jaephoenix(m): 12:07pm On Mar 27

butterflylion:
He is very correct especially since his target audience are the atheists here on Nairaland who desperately need anything to hold on to in order to disbelieve in the existence of God and one of such things a lot of them here hold on to is evolution.

They believe beauty can come from randomness. Harmony can come from randomness. Just like the design and construction of a mega city came about over millions of years of randomness then we had skyscrapers appear, well manicured landscapes, flyovers, trains, fast cars, etc. All came from randomness Afterall the basic component of what these things came from are molecules

Where did yhwh get the materials he used in creating the universe like rocks,humans etc

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 1:15pm On Mar 27

jaephoenix:
So which god created the universe and why should I believe yours out of the thousands of gods

Jesus Christ.

The Crucifixion of Jesus Christ is one of the greatest Historical facts EVER!🤯

pic.twitter.com/PEd8rt2TpI
— Talk Church (@churchtalkative) March 27, 2026

Re: Atheist Logic by OLAADEGBU(op): 3:15pm On Mar 27

This historian revealed and proved that Jesus existed outside of the Bible.

pic.twitter.com/fM1SJXillw
— Unapologetic (@Unapologx) March 27, 2026

Re: Atheist Logic by jaephoenix(m): 8:34pm On Mar 27

[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=138906329]Jesus Christ.

The Crucifixion of Jesus Christ is one of the greatest Historical facts EVER!🤯

pic.twitter.com/PEd8rt2TpI
— Talk Church (@churchtalkative) March 27, 2026

you can read properly, I asked 2 questions. So please answer the other one

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