₦airaland Forum

musicwriter:
What you need to understand is the education we get in Africa is just standard education, according to what white people wants us to know. It's so because this education was handed down to us by Europeans before leaving Africa. So, what we have in Africa is like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy, and so on. It's because we copied it from others that it would naturally keep losing quality, just like you keep photocopying a document from one to another. [/b] http://www.africason.com/2015/10/intellectual-slavery-most-dangerous.html

Rapmoney:
For those folks who love throwing stones at people due to hidden tribal, religious, family or pure blind sentiments, I write this post without any bias. If you have a first-class graduate or a professor in your family or you are one, don't take this personal, even if I know that your sentiments are irrelevant and remove nothing from or add nothing to the basic truth!

From independence to our present day, Nigeria as a country has been churning out first-class graduates from different universities that are scattered across the country like the creeks of Calabar. Often times, we are greeted with news headlines on newspapers, television, radio and online media such as: '45 Bagg First-Class From Migwor University' or '38 Graduate With First-Class From University of Vrendo'. Now, I ask, where are these first-class graduates? What have they been able to contribute to and achieve in science, art, technology and other facets of life? Is it that their 'intelligence' was only expressible on thick papers called certificates?

How come we still can't manufacture wrist-watches even with all our first-class graduates and professors in Engineering?

How come we have the raw materials to construct roads, yet we need some Arab fellows with a pass in National Diplomas to supervise road construction projects in Nigeria?!!! Where are our first-class graduates in Civil Engineering?

Where are all the project works that were defended in school before graduation? Probably resting on those old dusty cockroach and rat-infested shelves as usual

Our agricultural productivity is very low in many areas, yet we have been churning our first-class graduates and professors from various faculties of Agriculture in different tertiary institutions (universities and polytecnics).

Most private universities in Nigeria award first-class degrees as if they were oranges, kuli-kuli, biscuits or bubble gums. Each time these universities dish out their usual rounds of first-class degrees, it reminds me of how our aunties and uncles used to hand us many sweets, biscuits and gums during their children's birthday parties in the early 80's. To be sincere, I've met some first-class graduates from these schools who didn't even know the main difference between a university and a polytecnic. They couldn't impress me!

Most of the indigenous products we use in this country are the handwork and brainchild of folks who obtained technical knowledge from technical institutions and other sources within and outside Nigeria.

Those that studied abroad and bagged first-class degrees and the professors who were tutored abroad usually come back home with no significant contribution in science, art, technology and other areas, irrespective of the fact that most of them studied under scholarships or grants.

Until the educational system in Nigeria is over-hauled, we are going to witness more and more half-baked and quarter-baked first-class holders and professors who are products of a system that promotes mediocrity at the expense of value and quality.

The government of Poland spends about 3% of its annual budget on RESEARCH, just research alone (NOT EDUCATION). Don't we have so-called professors in government? What is their significance?

Nukilia:
@Desyner is not correct with the abusive words used on HND graduates. We have smart guys who have HND and are doing great. I guess the problem is with the idea of everyone trying to get a certificate and they don't know what to use the knowledge acquired for in the society.

When an Engineer becomes a comdeian and people hail him because he/she is making money, then you know there's problem with the system.

When a biochemistry graduate start making money from frying "Akara" then his pastor will tell him that frying "Akara" is his calling.

We have lots of problem in this our country, and all will be solved the day our universities and polytechnics review their curriculum and get enough funding for research and direct application of result to national problem.

FUCKmeHARD:
How can a first class graduate manufacture a 'common' wristwatch as you call it when the country cannot boast of steady power supply?




No constant power! All engineering training equipment in our schools and hospitals are outdated!

Buhari is always travelling to UK to treat his retired Dick there because the money meant for even aso rock clinic is whats been shared to all his family members while left over is for BMC and Herdsmen terrorizing good people, blocking roads and robbing day and night with riffle !

Then they turn around send you to come here asking why do we train half baked doctors?!


I'd keep saying No Power supply!



Nigerian Immigration Prints our Passports in Asia!


All Airtel and MTN Base stations are remotely controlled and repaired in India so how does a gradute of ET learn by just reading this.

Oil wells in southern Nigeria are all shipped to be refined at ten times ten the actual amount.
Then we turn around to import it back.

How would the nigerian graduate learn?

Infact I was at a refinary in Turkey meeeeen ya need to see how university student studying engineering that are always taken there to see the practicals!

While no refinary works in nigeria because the money has been shared and hidden in the north.

Meanwhile Ijaw boys that refine their birth right crude oil and sell to the common man at cheaper rate will find greedy northern security officers trying to get the lion share or take all proceed which most times they call NTA to video khaki boys pouring crude into rivers causing environment polution instead of the Govt to give everyone free hand to refine our property so engineering IT studen can also come and learn...


Nigeria imports guns into the country as confired by Hamid Ali, because our steel rolling mills in Ajakuta and Others cant get power supply to function. For if it has all power supply to fuction, at least there will be IT student learning practicals and there would be knowledge transfer that would make nigerian graduate capable of handling machines breakdown without inviting the china man.



We have Tobaco and ganger / Oshogbo weed in this nigeria yet every day you constantly see imported Cigar! Then how does the nigerian graduate learn how to repair and maintain cigar making machines

These are few....


We have fine girls all over nigeria yet Osho Baba imported woman!

Condom is imported yet we have rubber trees every where!



No research grants for anyone yet you want nigerian graduate to kill himself?

oluwamitomisin:
OP and commenters in support of him/her, all I could read here is some form of hatred for a particular set of people- first class holders and professors.

Mind that you are a graduate of whatever class you got from the higher institution also, and the burden is on all to improve our society at large. Stop being inferior!!!

I wish I have more time to reply y'all.

oluwamitomisin:
OP and commenters in support of him/her, all I could read here is some form of hatred for a particular set of people- first class holders and professors.

Mind that you are a graduate of whatever class you got from the higher institution also, and the burden is on all to improve our society at large. Stop being inferior!!!

I wish I have more time to reply y'all.

musicwriter:
What you need to understand is the education we get in Africa is just standard education, according to what white people wants us to know. It's so because this education was handed down to us by Europeans before leaving Africa. So, what we have in Africa is like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy, and so on. It's because we copied it from others that it would naturally keep losing quality, just like you keep photocopying a document from one to another. My senior brothers got a better quality education than me, and I got a better quality education than my junior ones. Those that would come after us would keep getting less quality education. This is already an open secret, and everybody knows education is increasingly losing quality by the year. The more we copy it to future generations, the more it would lose quality.

I remember when we were in school back in the days, and they used to say those in primary school couldn't write a good letter. Later, the saying changed that those in secondary school couldn't write a good letter. Now, they say university graduates can't write a good letter anymore. Most of the certificates and qualifications ends on paper, not in practice. If those qualifications were real, you'll see it in our streets, in science and technology and all the other fields you mentioned.

However, it was deliberately designed that way right from the time it was handed to us by Britain. The colonial masters weren't really interested in giving education to their colonies. It was an after thought, and when they did, their priority was training people who can speak their various languages, people who could help them run the colonial administration, people who they could control. It wasn't about giving technical skills or learning how to build our own airplane. As a matter of fact, an educated person in British colony in the 1920's was someone who could speak English language. And in French colonies it was someone who could speak French language. The education disables an African mind to want to aspire scientifically, and as I said, it was deliberately designed that way. That's why we can't build our own roads and the rest of the things. It was designed so we continue to import our needs from the master.

We're going nowhere, until African leaders and those managing education in Africa understand this and re-invent education based on African philosophy.

As you suggested, the solution is overhaul the thing called education and re-install a brand new system of education created by us, a system of education without colonial hangovers. This would include using our native languages to acquire knowledge. Only then shall somebody who tells you he studied about mosquito talk about mosquito in a way it would be open source knowledge to everybody. It would no longer be a topic you have to first qualify as an English speaker to understand. A system of education that disqualifies our native languages from knowledge acquisition is slavery!! .

Anybody interested in reading more should see the link on my signature, part 1 and part 2. See intellectual slavery, the worst legacy of colonialism http://www.africason.com/2015/10/intellectual-slavery-most-dangerous.html

tosyne2much:
Even the number of people viewing this thread justifies the falling standard of our education. Go to Tonto Dike's thread and check the difference


People no longer value education but shortcuts

madridguy:
Tonto dike Well, I will continue to blame our government.

musicwriter:
What you need to understand is the education we get in Africa is just standard education, according to what white people wants us to know. It's so because this education was handed down to us by Europeans before leaving Africa. So, what we have in Africa is like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy, and so on. It's because we copied it from others that it would naturally keep losing quality, just like you keep photocopying a document from one to another. My senior brothers got a better quality education than me, and I got a better quality education than my junior ones. Those that would come after us would keep getting less quality education. This is already an open secret, and everybody knows education is increasingly losing quality by the year. The more we copy it to future generations, the more it would lose quality.

I remember when we were in school back in the days, and they used to say those in primary school couldn't write a good letter. Later, the saying changed that those in secondary school couldn't write a good letter. Now, they say university graduates can't write a good letter anymore. Most of the certificates and qualifications ends on paper, not in practice. If those qualifications were real, you'll see it in our streets, in science and technology and all the other fields you mentioned.

However, it was deliberately designed that way right from the time it was handed to us by Britain. The colonial masters weren't really interested in giving education to their colonies. It was an after thought, and when they did, their priority was training people who can speak their various languages, people who could help them run the colonial administration, people who they could control. It wasn't about giving technical skills or learning how to build our own airplane. As a matter of fact, an educated person in British colony in the 1920's was someone who could speak English language. And in French colonies it was someone who could speak French language. The education disables an African mind to want to aspire scientifically, and as I said, it was deliberately designed that way. That's why we can't build our own roads and the rest of the things. It was designed so we continue to import our needs from the master.

We're going nowhere, until African leaders and those managing education in Africa understand this and re-invent education based on African philosophy.

As you suggested, the solution is overhaul the thing called education and re-install a brand new system of education created by us, a system of education without colonial hangovers. This would include using our native languages to acquire knowledge. Only then shall somebody who tells you he studied about mosquito talk about mosquito in a way it would be open source knowledge to everybody. It would no longer be a topic you have to first qualify as an English speaker to understand. A system of education that disqualifies our native languages from knowledge acquisition is slavery!! .

Anybody interested in reading more should see the link on my signature, part 1 and part 2. See intellectual slavery, the worst legacy of colonialism http://www.africason.com/2015/10/intellectual-slavery-most-dangerous.html

Rapmoney:
For those folks who love throwing stones at people due to hidden tribal, religious, family or pure blind sentiments, I write this post without any bias. If you have a first-class graduate or a professor in your family or you are one, don't take this personal, even if I know that your sentiments are irrelevant and remove nothing from or add nothing to the basic truth!

From independence to our present day, Nigeria as a country has been churning out first-class graduates from different universities that are scattered across the country like the creeks of Calabar. Often times, we are greeted with news headlines on newspapers, television, radio and online media such as: '45 Bagg First-Class From Migwor University' or '38 Graduate With First-Class From University of Vrendo'. Now, I ask, where are these first-class graduates? What have they been able to contribute to and achieve in science, art, technology and other facets of life? Is it that their 'intelligence' was only expressible on thick papers called certificates?

How come we still can't manufacture wrist-watches even with all our first-class graduates and professors in Engineering?

How come we have the raw materials to construct roads, yet we need some Arab fellows with a pass in National Diplomas to supervise road construction projects in Nigeria?!!! Where are our first-class graduates in Civil Engineering?

Where are all the project works that were defended in school before graduation? Probably resting on those old dusty cockroach and rat-infested shelves as usual

Our agricultural productivity is very low in many areas, yet we have been churning our first-class graduates and professors from various faculties of Agriculture in different tertiary institutions (universities and polytecnics).

Most private universities in Nigeria award first-class degrees as if they were oranges, kuli-kuli, biscuits or bubble gums. Each time these universities dish out their usual rounds of first-class degrees, it reminds me of how our aunties and uncles used to hand us many sweets, biscuits and gums during their children's birthday parties in the early 80's. To be sincere, I've met some first-class graduates from these schools who didn't even know the main difference between a university and a polytecnic. They couldn't impress me!

Most of the indigenous products we use in this country are the handwork and brainchild of folks who obtained technical knowledge from technical institutions and other sources within and outside Nigeria.

Those that studied abroad and bagged first-class degrees and the professors who were tutored abroad usually come back home with no significant contribution in science, art, technology and other areas, irrespective of the fact that most of them studied under scholarships or grants.

Until the educational system in Nigeria is over-hauled, we are going to witness more and more half-baked and quarter-baked first-class holders and professors who are products of a system that promotes mediocrity at the expense of value and quality.

The government of Poland spends about 3% of its annual budget on RESEARCH, just research alone (NOT EDUCATION). Don't we have so-called professors in government? What is their significance?

muba4huss:
we all looking for quick money

ivolt:
@Rapmoney, this is a very good question.

The answer lies in Nigeria's priority.
As you know that scientific development is largely dependent on money
We don't have enough money for food and health(allegedly), so R& is
relegated to the back room.

What is even surprising is the mindset of many Nigerians even the learned
ones, I can see some posters already blaming Britain for the problem we face
when the same britain colonised singapore, malaysia and South Africa, yet
some seemingly literate people think that britain hid the
"true education" from Nigerians.

Until our schools start encouraging thinking instead of linguists-only and the
government stop mismanagement, the first class and professors will
continue to do what their predecessors are doing, collecting salaries and
getting by while blame continues to be passed around.

Rapmoney:
For those folks who love throwing stones at people due to hidden tribal, religious, family or pure blind sentiments, I write this post without any bias. If you have a first-class graduate or a professor in your family or you are one, don't take this personal, even if I know that your sentiments are irrelevant and remove nothing from or add nothing to the basic truth!

From independence to our present day, Nigeria as a country has been churning out first-class graduates from different universities that are scattered across the country like the creeks of Calabar. Often times, we are greeted with news headlines on newspapers, television, radio and online media such as: '45 Bagg First-Class From Migwor University' or '38 Graduate With First-Class From University of Vrendo'. Now, I ask, where are these first-class graduates? What have they been able to contribute to and achieve in science, art, technology and other facets of life? Is it that their 'intelligence' was only expressible on thick papers called certificates?

How come we still can't manufacture wrist-watches even with all our first-class graduates and professors in Engineering?

How come we have the raw materials to construct roads, yet we need some Arab fellows with a pass in National Diplomas to supervise road construction projects in Nigeria?!!! Where are our first-class graduates in Civil Engineering?

Where are all the project works that were defended in school before graduation? Probably resting on those old dusty cockroach and rat-infested shelves as usual

Our agricultural productivity is very low in many areas, yet we have been churning our first-class graduates and professors from various faculties of Agriculture in different tertiary institutions (universities and polytecnics).

Most private universities in Nigeria award first-class degrees as if they were oranges, kuli-kuli, biscuits or bubble gums. Each time these universities dish out their usual rounds of first-class degrees, it reminds me of how our aunties and uncles used to hand us many sweets, biscuits and gums during their children's birthday parties in the early 80's. To be sincere, I've met some first-class graduates from these schools who didn't even know the main difference between a university and a polytecnic. They couldn't impress me!

Most of the indigenous products we use in this country are the handwork and brainchild of folks who obtained technical knowledge from technical institutions and other sources within and outside Nigeria.

Those that studied abroad and bagged first-class degrees and the professors who were tutored abroad usually come back home with no significant contribution in science, art, technology and other areas, irrespective of the fact that most of them studied under scholarships or grants.

Until the educational system in Nigeria is over-hauled, we are going to witness more and more half-baked and quarter-baked first-class holders and professors who are products of a system that promotes mediocrity at the expense of value and quality.

The government of Poland spends about 3% of its annual budget on RESEARCH, just research alone (NOT EDUCATION). Don't we have so-called professors in government? What is their significance?

ToZaraWithaZ:
Rapmoney, nice write-up. You spoke the plain truth, and I agree with you.

The MAIN problem is that ordinary schools, especially the ones in Africa, are designed to churn out people who can read and write, haven't set their ambitions too high, and will be able to fit into the working world where they will carry out a menial and bureaucratic function for average pay.

There are so many people with astonishing potentials, but have had them killed because of the education system. One of the worst mistakes the state can make is to shovel all children, no matter their differences, into "one size fits all" schools where they get a standardised curriculum that is never tailored to any child's particular needs and talents. If you provided everyone on earth with a one-size-fits-all set of clothes, most would look terrible, while, for a lucky few, they would be a perfect fit. So, it is with education. For a few, the education system is just right - for everyone else it's a lesser or greater disaster.

The students with the best grades are often not the most intelligent ones, but the ones with the best short-time memory or best at rote, robotic learning. After an exam, they usually forget most of the material.

That's why, like you said, it's the outsiders, the non-conformists, the freethinkers, the rebels and heretics who find the system nauseating, that tend to create anything worthwhile.

Education ought to be about discovering what children are good at, and what they're not. If you teach mathematics to a person who has no mathematical aptitude, you will shatter their confidence and self-esteem. Don't keep making people do things for which they have no glimmer of talent. It's pointless, counter-productive and psychologically damaging, and in the end, their real talent remains undiscovered and unexplored.

Rapmoney:
For those folks who love throwing stones at people due to hidden tribal, religious, family or pure blind sentiments, I write this post without any bias. If you have a first-class graduate or a professor in your family or you are one, don't take this personal, even if I know that your sentiments are irrelevant and remove nothing from or add nothing to the basic truth!

From independence to our present day, Nigeria as a country has been churning out first-class graduates from different universities that are scattered across the country like the creeks of Calabar. Often times, we are greeted with news headlines on newspapers, television, radio and online media such as: '45 Bagg First-Class From Migwor University' or '38 Graduate With First-Class From University of Vrendo'. Now, I ask, where are these first-class graduates? What have they been able to contribute to and achieve in science, art, technology and other facets of life? Is it that their 'intelligence' was only expressible on thick papers called certificates?

How come we still can't manufacture wrist-watches even with all our first-class graduates and professors in Engineering?

How come we have the raw materials to construct roads, yet we need some Arab fellows with a pass in National Diplomas to supervise road construction projects in Nigeria?!!! Where are our first-class graduates in Civil Engineering?

Where are all the project works that were defended in school before graduation? Probably resting on those old dusty cockroach and rat-infested shelves as usual

Our agricultural productivity is very low in many areas, yet we have been churning our first-class graduates and professors from various faculties of Agriculture in different tertiary institutions (universities and polytecnics).

Most private universities in Nigeria award first-class degrees as if they were oranges, kuli-kuli, biscuits or bubble gums. Each time these universities dish out their usual rounds of first-class degrees, it reminds me of how our aunties and uncles used to hand us many sweets, biscuits and gums during their children's birthday parties in the early 80's. To be sincere, I've met some first-class graduates from these schools who didn't even know the main difference between a university and a polytecnic. They couldn't impress me!

Most of the indigenous products we use in this country are the handwork and brainchild of folks who obtained technical knowledge from technical institutions and other sources within and outside Nigeria.

Those that studied abroad and bagged first-class degrees and the professors who were tutored abroad usually come back home with no significant contribution in science, art, technology and other areas, irrespective of the fact that most of them studied under scholarships or grants.

Until the educational system in Nigeria is over-hauled, we are going to witness more and more half-baked and quarter-baked first-class holders and professors who are products of a system that promotes mediocrity at the expense of value and quality.

The government of Poland spends about 3% of its annual budget on RESEARCH, just research alone (NOT EDUCATION). Don't we have so-called professors in government? What is their significance?