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| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 9:13pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Surah At-tur, Verse 35-36: أَمْ خُلِقُوا مِنْ غَيْرِ شَيْءٍ أَمْ هُمُ الْخَالِقُونَ [Or do they deny the existence of God?] Have they themselves been created without anything [that might have caused their creation]? or were they, perchance, their own creators? أَمْ خَلَقُوا السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ بَل لَّا يُوقِنُونَ [And] have they created the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no certainty of anything! |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 9:20pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Empiree: lwtmbIt's people like him that usually end up running to church for deliverance and to babalawo et al. At the end he'll speak like a sheep and be like "ha, nkan nbe!!!" ![]() ##Na joke I dey joke o, @TY |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Empiree: 9:27pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
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| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 9:31pm On Oct 04, 2017*. Modified: 9:53pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:No, i am not the one deluded in believing a magical ark carried the whole species in every corner of the world, or a sea splitted into two or the moon splitted into two or a prophet rode on a flying creature, if you believe in this then you believe Khalessi rode on dragons. ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 9:40pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
tintingz:It's not a matter of believing all that you listed above hook, line and sinker. As a matter of fact, the stories can be metaphor and cannot be taken literally. You can deny all the above for all I care, but coming out boldly to say there's nothing like supernatural makes you look deluded. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 9:44pm On Oct 04, 2017*. Modified: 10:17pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Empiree:Seriously?? Same goes for Allah, Is Allah universally believed? How many pagans believes in angels? So by your logic facebook is widely accepted makes it divine? This is not about what people believes, it is providing evidence for it existence, if you cant provide evidence for santa claus then what make is so different to that of angels and jinns? i no longer dispute with you on this. Your position is clear. ![]() no problem. I just wish one day they will show you red pepper like story narrated by sheikh Akindele that i told you before.Red pepper ko yellow pepper ni, show me evidence of jinns and let me see if they sell red pepper. ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 9:52pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:Did i concluded by saying there is nothing like supernatural? i am simply agnostic about it as there are no evidence for any supernatural so far. Those stories are not metaphorical, they are believed to have happened in real life. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 10:02pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:Lol. i have been threaten on facebook before in a post like that, i dont know if i should call it threat, so many religious folks cant engage in my argument that i received insults, and a bishop said i will see sign within 14 days, up till now after the 14 days am still waiting for the imaginary signs and we strike a deal that he will leave his faith if he fails, he hasn't respond after I message him. ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by AlBaqir(m): 10:17pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Rilwayne001: Nkan nbe. The guy still dey sleep and eat for em papa house, and dey spoke English. ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Demmzy15(m): 10:22pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Teetotaler: 10:41pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
tintingz:Hmm . Let's do it this way. Is there any physical evidence for your family's progenitor. Pictures, writing et al. I bet your Family's progenitor doesn't exist too right? Using your logic. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Empiree: 10:58pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
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| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Empiree: 11:11pm On Oct 04, 2017*. Modified: 7:50pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
tintingz:Your case is getting serious by day. When you open first page of Quran what do yu read? All Praises And Thanks Due To Allah The Lord Of The World isnt? How many pagans believes in angels? So by your logic facebook is widely accepted makes it divine?smh This is not about what people believes, it is providing evidence for it existence, if you cant provide evidence for santa claus then what make is so different to that of angels and jinns?waste of time. Just be sincere and return here to tell us your experience if anything should happen. Ask emekaraj, jamo90 and so many others to tell you stories. And you don't have t believe them |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 11:48pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Empiree:That's Allah's word claim in the Quran and it is not accepted by Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhist, atheist, agnostic, deist and billions of non-muslims in the world that Allah is the lord of the world, do you accept Brahma is the lord of the world? If you don't accept Brahma is the lord of the world why should you expect non-muslim to accept same for Allah? smhNon of them has provided evidence, they are simply hallucinating, a schizophrenia disorder. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 11:57pm On Oct 04, 2017 |
Teetotaler:What's this one saying? ![]() My existence alone shows my ancestors existed, My gene can be traced to all my relations/linage past or even future, it is called genetic ancestry or genealogical test. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 12:06am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Our forefathers should have used jinns or their gods to chase the white colonials but we didn't see that, the white came with guns and their brain and just few men, took over Africa for decades. ![]() If I see fairies now, na jinn. ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 12:09am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:Do you believe Brahma created the world? |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Empiree: 1:42am On Oct 05, 2017 |
tintingz:If Brahma is name for Supreme Being who created the whole universe, just like English called Allah (God), igbo (Chineke), Spanish (Dios) Hausa (Ubangiji) and so on. For as long as the names are not contaminated we have no problems with them. They are still referring to One Supreme Being who created heavens and earth |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Teetotaler: 5:47am On Oct 05, 2017 |
tintingz:Hen Hen, so you mean your ancestors existed? Interesting. I do not believe they exist cos I haven't heard of or seen them before. In fact you might just be a programmed robot behind the keyboard, so why should I believe your assertions. So in your small mind, you believe Prophet Muhammad does not have descendants or ancestors that are genetically linked? Or Prophet Musa doesn't have descendants also? ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 6:35am On Oct 05, 2017 |
tintingz:That's absolutely your conclusion. Like every other nairaland atheist, you say you'll only believe in supernatural when you see physical proof, that's tantamount to denial. Atheist also ask for the proof of God's existence, does that mean they somehow believe God exists? i am simply agnostic about it as there are no evidence for any supernatural so far.In other words, you are an agnostic atheist. Those stories are not metaphorical, they are believed to have happened in real life.Well then, whatever makes us sleep at night ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 6:44am On Oct 05, 2017 |
tintingz:I'm so sorry if the post appeared like a threat, but believe me it's not. My point is that, you should limit your 'there is no supernatural powers' to yourself and on the Internet and don't go about telling it to the face of those our Yoruba people. There's evil supernatural powers out there than the good ones and they are always eager to demonstrate it. Like the Bishop promising you imaginary signs, that's common to Christians. Nevertheless don't go offline denying supernatural. And BTW, if you are truly hell bent on knowing, just go to Osun state or even your Ijebu and ask for proof. You cannot get proof on the Internet, you'll only get it in real life. I wish you best of luck in your search. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 6:46am On Oct 05, 2017 |
AlBaqir:In fact ehn. ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 6:51am On Oct 05, 2017 |
tintingz:That's apparently not the bone of contention in that verse. Why don't you answer the questions asked ? |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 7:44am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:That quote(Quran verse) is coming from a personal god that has emotions, that threaten people with hell to prove he/she exist, to make people worship him alone, why does a god want people to worship him alone with threat and anger is something I'm yet to understand. If you want to argue about a god then you must be specific on which god, or do you now believe in a deist god or Hindu god? If that verse argues about the first cause then how then god came to be? Your god claim he perfected everything yet we can see faults in nature. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 7:47am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Empiree:No, the nature of Brahma is different from Allah and every other Gods, it is either you choose the nature of Brahma as supreme or Allah. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 8:01am On Oct 05, 2017*. Modified: 8:27am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Teetotaler:Your thinking is very irrational, if you do not believe you ancestors existed, then how did you came to be? You fell fron the sky? ![]() Your gene, DNA is a physical evidence of your ancestors, you don't need pictures to prove a thousand years people. So in your small mind, you believe Prophet Muhammad does not have descendants or ancestors that are genetically linked?If you have anyone to be Moses or Muhammad genetical link, you can provide them with scientific evidence. Although there are physical evidence of Muhammad(still a debate tho). |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 9:52am On Oct 05, 2017 |
tintingz:Off point. If you want to argue about a god then you must be specific on which god, or do you now believe in a deist god or Hindu god?Does it matter? First we have establish that a supernatural entity is the brain behind existence of the universe, something you must admit before asking me which of the supernatural entity. If that verse argues about the first cause then how then god came to be?First cause is eternal. He has always been. Your god claim he perfected everything yet we can see faults in nature.. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Rilwayne001: 9:53am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Maybe we can churn something out today. @tintingz Why is there any world at all, and why is it the way that it is? |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 10:04am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:I'm not going about saying there is no supernatural, what I'm saying is there is no evidence for it, no one has been able demonstrate it successfully. I believe some things can't be explained doesn't make it supernatural, we simply don't know yet and I believe many of these so called juju are magic tricks. Like the Bishop promising you imaginary signs, that's common to Christians. Nevertheless don't go offline denying supernatural.Not only Christians, it is common among religious folks and when they fail they give apologetic excuse. And BTW, if you are truly hell bent on knowing, just go to Osun state or even your Ijebu and ask for proof. You cannot get proof on the Internet, you'll only get it in real life. I wish you best of luck in your search.I am even planning to go for paranormal and supernatural research, broadcasting it in open/public, I just need time and capital. But are there not paranormal and supernatural challenges conducted for years? Here is a video of this man probably atheist, challenging india guru priest to proof his supernatural power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfJPYzxHM4g&t=218s Here is an article on supernatural challenge that was failed, not successfully proven, this is from 1964 to 2015. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by haffaze777(m): 10:05am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:or itoko town in Abeokuta ![]() ![]() |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 10:13am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:You have to be specific in the god you believe in. |
| Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by tintingz(m): 10:29am On Oct 05, 2017*. Modified: 10:53am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:No, it is not off point, it is part of the God you quoted to threaten people. Does it matter?So if I admit there is an evidence of a deity, gods how will that link to your own god? ![]() Are you arguing for deism or Islam? First cause is eternal. He has always been.Where is the evidence first cause is eternal? |
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