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Re: Where Was God??? by MaziOmenuko: 8:44pm On Oct 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Whenever men abandoned the Law of GOD, every kind of evil followed. Chaos, disasters, violence, suffering and pain become the order of the day. Why won't things like the Vegas shooting, or even worse, happen when men walk about believing that God does not exist, and that God's law as reveaeld in the Bible is not binding on them, and that they're not accountable to anyone, nor would they get any reward for what they did on this earth? It happened just before the flood. It is happening again.

Indeed, the Bible predicted it. Expect it to get worse and worse until Christ returns to end this wicked system of things.
Oga, let us assume that everyone killed in Vegas shooting were all atheists and unbelievers.

What of the incidence at a church in uyo where the church building collapsed and more than 32 Christians were crushed to death? Should we say that the beams of that church carefully chose it's victims and fell on the sinners among them? What of the building collapse of Psr TB Joshua where more than 80 Christians lost their lives? What of the Boko haram bomb blast at madala, Niger State where over 20 lives were lost? Let's still asume those guys were not Christians. What of the incidence at Adamawa dealer life where boko haram attached members if a church at a night vigil and killed them all? Do you need more examples to know that your claim is flawed?

If after Jesus death, the devil is still killing Christians like point and kill fish pepersoip, then something is wrong somewhere.
Re: Where Was God??? by richardbrandy: 8:45pm On Oct 06, 2017
AlmiqhteeAllah:
Lol. Enlightened keh? I'm just a [color=darkgreen]little boy[/color] still learning to grow. My vision is still developing. Thanks for the compliment though. I appreciate your feelings. And concerning getting in touch, I'll get back to you once my spirit permits. Thanks for understanding. smiley
cool
AlmiqhteeAllah:
Lol. Enlightened keh? I'm just a [color=darkgreen]little boy[/color] still learning to grow. My vision is still developing. Thanks for the compliment though. I appreciate your feelings. And concerning getting in touch, I'll get back to you once my spirit permits. Thanks for understanding. smiley
alright my earth friend
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 8:48pm On Oct 06, 2017
richardbrandy:
coolalright my earth friend
smiley
Re: Where Was God??? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:54pm On Oct 06, 2017
MaziOmenuko:
Oga, let us assume that everyone killed in Vegas shooting were all atheists and unbelievers.

What of the incidence at a church in uyo where the church building collapsed and more than 32 Christians were crushed to death? Should we say that the beams of that church carefully chose it's victims and fell on the sinners among them? What of the building collapse of Psr TB Joshua where more than 80 Christians lost their lives? What of the Boko haram bomb blast at madala, Niger State where over 20 lives were lost? Let's still asume those guys were not Christians. What of the incidence at Adamawa dealer life where boko haram attached members if a church at a night vigil and killed them all? Do you need more examples to know that your claim is flawed?

If after Jesus death, the devil is still killing Christians like point and kill fish pepersoip, then something is wrong somewhere.
But Jesus did not promise us that we would no longer die in this world. You've shown that you lack even basic knowledge of the Bible. Jesus Himself told us that we would be persecuted, and even killed in this world. Jesus died so we can live forever IN THE WORLD TO COME, NOT IN THIS WICKED WORLD.

Even though we die, when Jesus comes back, we would live again.
Re: Where Was God??? by richardbrandy: 8:54pm On Oct 06, 2017
asuustrike2009:
You wouldn't understand. Every one is running a personal race and working out his salvation with fear and trembling. Any small sin you commit unknown to you will count be it secret or open. That someone die by accident is because Lucifer to a great extend is involved. Yahweh never supported accident from day one
what is this one even typing
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 9:04pm On Oct 06, 2017
Where was God?? That's laughable! Do you think anything happens without God not knowing to it. Well, simple answer when you seek God, you shall find him. Read Jeremiah 33:3.
Re: Where Was God??? by MaziOmenuko: 9:36pm On Oct 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
But Jesus did not promise us that we would no longer die in this world. You've shown that you lack even basic knowledge of the Bible. Jesus Himself told us that we would be persecuted, and even killed in this world. Jesus died so we can live forever IN THE WORLD TO COME, NOT IN THIS WICKED WORLD.

Even though we die, when Jesus comes back, we would live again.
Oga Alien, did Jesus say that whoever believes in him shall not die but have everlasting life? Did he proclaim after his death that all powers has been given unto him in heaven and in earth? Did he promise his followers that they shall trample upon serpents and scorpions and shall not be harmed? With your knowledge of basic bible, did Jesus promise his followers all that I said or am I quoting the quoran? I get it, you have already bought the school of thought that Christians can die like all unbelievers which is okk by me. Your fellow Christian, asuustrike2009 doesn't believe it as he believes that anyone that dies has sin in him ad not a true Christian. That's the reason for all my response so far.

You Christians are not even coherent about your beliefs and stands.
Re: Where Was God??? by MaziOmenuko: 9:43pm On Oct 06, 2017
asuustrike2009:
You are only assuming something from nothing. Reading meaning to nothing, Yahweh has never caused accident from the beginning. It's the handwork of the devil.For the devil to operate,he must find faults. Nobody is claiming holy holy because we are trying to attend perfection.
Meanwhile b4 I go, the bolded is soo wrong.
You need to read Isaiah 45:7 very well. Let me paste it here for you.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

If an agnostic like me is teaching you your Bible and correcting your errors, then you need to humble yourself and seek more knowledge on things you don't know of.
Re: Where Was God??? by OtemAtum: 9:44pm On Oct 06, 2017
asuustrike2009:
Yes not all Christians are saved because of sin.Sin is the weapon the enemy use to destroy. Planes crash occurs when the accuser of brethren finds his property on man.From the world go,Yahweh hasn't cause plane crash. When the enemy wants to strike,he must find fault to attack. If he doesn't see any, he can't strike
Chai! So it's accuser of the brethren that killed Pastor Kumuyi's wife in her fifties. I'm learning cool
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 9:46pm On Oct 06, 2017
asuustrike2009:
You wouldn't understand. Every one is running a personal race and working out his salvation with fear and trembling. Any small sin you commit unknown to you will count be it secret or open. [color=darkblue]That someone die by accident is because Lucifer to a great extend is involved. Yahweh never supported accident from day one[/color]
"God is either impotent, evil or [color=darkgreen]IMAGINARY[/color]" - Sam Harris

Satan cannot be contending power with an OMNIPOTENT God. There can be no DUALISM in Abrahamic monotheism. You can't have your cake and eat it at the same time.
Re: Where Was God??? by OtemAtum: 9:51pm On Oct 06, 2017
Originalkalokalo: :

( If I were God, alot of people on this site will be eaten alive by worms. That's why I am not fit to be God. I lack abundant mercy)
THANK GOD you are not God o. The God Almighty whom I know doesn't have human emotions of anger, hatred which Yahweh, Allah and all these small small gods like them have. If God ALMIGHTY, the creator of Yahweh, was an angry one, he/it would have destroyed Yahweh long ago, but God is not so.

You'd better rephrase your speech and say, if you were Yahweh, you would have killed people anyhow like Yahweh your mentor who had no tolerance in the Neanderthal era.
Re: Where Was God??? by Originakalokalo(m): 10:01pm On Oct 06, 2017
OtemAtum:
THANK GOD you are not God o. The God Almighty whom I know doesn't have human emotions of anger, hatred which Yahweh, Allah and all these small small gods like them have. If God ALMIGHTY, the creator of Yahweh, was an angry one, he/it would have destroyed Yahweh long ago, but God is not so.

You'd better rephrase your speech and say, if you were Yahweh, you would have killed people anyhow like Yahweh your mentor who had no tolerance in the Neanderthal era.
Noted
Re: Where Was God??? by OtemAtum: 10:11pm On Oct 06, 2017
Originakalokalo:
Noted
Here is what God Almighty the father of Yahweh even said about his character in the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH
Doctufos: First Job 5: 33-34

33. And God Almighty said, that which you speak is not the reason for the violence of Yahweh. Rather, he lacks the character called tolerance, which makes everything in the universe to co-habit.
34. Is the sun not hot on the planets? Yet they all tolerate it and even revolve around it. But I tell you, in tolerance is great benefit. For you shall learn the good ways of others and do away with the bad.
Re: Where Was God??? by DoctorAlien(m):
MaziOmenuko:
Oga Alien, did Jesus say that whoever believes in him shall not die but have everlasting life?
These are the verses, I believe, you're talking about:

"Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" John 11:25-26

Notice that Jesus said to Martha that if anybody believes(not believed) in Him, though the person were dead, he shall live yet. Therefore, Jesus is saying that though a person were dead, if the person BELIEVES (present tense) in Him, the person shall yet live. The fact that the Jesus used the word "believes" is very important because it cancels the idea that Jesus could be talking about those who believed in Him before they died, and not those who are yet to believe in Him. If Jesus was talking about those believed in Him before they died, the sentence would have been "he that believed in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live..." That raises the question: can a dead man believe in Jesus? The only way that could make sense is if what Jesus really sees as death is not physical death we know. And that is really the case! To Jesus, the physical death we know is but a sleep, aND someone can be awakeNed out of it. That was why He told His disciples that their friend Lazarus was was asleep. All through the Bible, death is represented as sleep. (see also Daniel 12:2)

What then does Jesus see as really death? The destruction/annihilation that awaits those would choose not to believe in Him. This is also called the second death (Revelation 21:cool. (This is also why Jesus made the statement "leave the dead to bury their dead", the dead here being those who would eventually encounter the second death because they had decided not to follow Jesus.) This second death is never likened to sleep in the Bible, and anyone who experiences it can never be recovered from it. To Jesus, this is really death, and anyone who is going to experience it is dead(already)! But if any man moves from not believing in Jesus to believing in Him, the person has moved from being dead to being alive. (see John 11:25 again). You understand this more when you consider Jesus' words in John 5:24 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life."

Armed with this view which Jesus had of death, it is not hard to see what Jesus meant when He said in John 11:26 that "whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."

Did he proclaim after his death that all powers has been given unto him in heaven and in earth? Did he promise his followers that they shall trample upon serpents and scorpions and shall not be harmed? With your knowledge of basic bible, did Jesus promise his followers all that I said or am I quoting the quoran? I get it, you have already bought the school of thought that Christians can die like all unbelievers which is okk by me.
Yes, Jesus said all those and more. However, the same Jesus told us these: "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake." Matt. 24:9 But even though they kill us, we will live again when Christ returns.

Jesus also told us that we would trample upon serpents and scorpions and shall not be harmed. The promise is not a license to us to go in search of serpents and scorpions to step on. Instead it means that in our walk with Him, we would come close to danger and harm, but we will be protected. This promise is having literal fulfillment all over the world in the lives of God’s children.

When He decides that work of any of His child is done on earth, God puts that person to rest. God can allow His child die a martyr's death, or to die a peaceful death. But whatever happens, Jesus will raise His children up when He returns.
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 12:13am On Oct 07, 2017
AlmiqhteeAllah:
"God is either impotent, evil or [color=darkgreen]IMAGINARY[/color]" - Sam Harris

Satan cannot be contending power with an OMNIPOTENT God. There can be no DUALISM in Abrahamic monotheism. You can't have your cake and eat it at the same time.
When the time come you will eat these sentences.
Re: Where Was God??? by Babatunde360: 2:19am On Oct 07, 2017
Samswags9:
Are You Even Human?
No the flying spaghetti monster
Re: Where Was God??? by Babatunde360: 2:22am On Oct 07, 2017
AlmiqhteeAllah:
Do you know how vast the universe is? So, the deepest and foremost yearning of its creator is to have an EMOTIONAL relationship with ants on an insignificant speck of dust, located in the vicinity of an inconsequential burning ball of gas, situated in one arm of an irrelevant galaxy among billions dancing and vibrating, sending waves throughout the whole of space, in the cosmic music studio?

This must be the height of pettiness. It is ridiculous beyond words.
This man deserves a stout .Beautifully written
Re: Where Was God??? by Babatunde360: 2:28am On Oct 07, 2017
asuustrike2009:
God had warned them through his servant in this part of the world but they ignored it.The las Vegas saga was orchestrated from the pit of hell to destroy humanity. Yes he wanted them to be saved but the people refuse to hearken to his voice while he spoke.
Stupid people like this are why Nigeria is not moving foward
Re: Where Was God??? by Babatunde360: 2:41am On Oct 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:
The Vegas shooting brings us face to face with the sad reality of atheism. From the atheist's point of view, there is no hope for justice for the people whose lives were brutally and unjustly terminated. A true atheist has no basis on which to even condemn the shooting as wrong. Perhaps Darwin would tell us that nature, through the Vegas shooting, just weeded out those who are not fit enough from the human species? Who knows?

Whenever men abandoned the Law of GOD, every kind of evil followed. Chaos, disasters, violence, suffering and pain become the order of the day. Why won't things like the Vegas shooting, or even worse, happen when men walk about believing that God does not exist, and that God's law as reveaeld in the Bible is not binding on them, and that they're not accountable to anyone, nor would they get any reward for what they did on this earth? It happened just before the flood. It is happening again.

Indeed, the Bible predicted it. Expect it to get worse and worse until Christ returns to end this wicked system of things.
You must be a real psycho to believe the only way to do the right thing is with the threat of eternal damnation ,So if you didn't believe in god you will go around killing people.And the fact that someone is an Atheist doesn't mean the person lacks empathy or other basic human emotions it just means the person isn't gullible enough to believe in things like unicorn, santa claus ,god, big foot ,abominable snow man,kraken ,godzilla and what ever imaginary things hang out together
Re: Where Was God??? by Babatunde360: 2:47am On Oct 07, 2017
asuustrike2009:
You are only assuming something from nothing. Reading meaning to nothing, Yahweh has never caused accident from the beginning. It's the handwork of the devil.For the devil to operate,he must find faults. Nobody is claiming holy holy because we are trying to attend perfection.
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked Seriously that dude has killed more people than any other person just read your f***ing bible
Re: Where Was God??? by Babatunde360: 2:54am On Oct 07, 2017
asuustrike2009:
When the time come you will eat these sentences.
Oga chef happy cooking
Re: Where Was God??? by Samswags9(op): 3:10am On Oct 07, 2017
Babatunde360:
No the flying spaghetti monster
Its Not That I Don't Have Time To Banter Words With You, But I Find You Rather Worthless For My Worthwhile Words.
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 6:07am On Oct 07, 2017
Babatunde360:
This man deserves a stout .Beautifully written
Lol. Thanks bro. But I would prefer a bottle of Whisky. More preferably, Spanish Red Wine or [color=darkblue]German Blue Nun[/color]. I love it European. smiley
Re: Where Was God??? by Daeylar(f): 6:08am On Oct 07, 2017
AlmiqhteeAllah:
Do you know how vast the universe is? So, the deepest and foremost yearning of its creator is to have an EMOTIONAL relationship with ants on an insignificant speck of dust, located in the vicinity of an inconsequential burning ball of gas, situated in one arm of an irrelevant galaxy among billions dancing and vibrating, sending waves throughout the whole of space, in the cosmic music studio?

This must be the height of pettiness. It is ridiculous beyond words.
Who's petty? Us or God?
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 6:22am On Oct 07, 2017
Daeylar:
Who's petty? Us or God?
God! cheesy

What kind of pleasure could I - an imperfect human being - derive from the worship and reverence of butterflies? Yet a perfect God who NEEDS NOTHING and should have no weakness [color=darkgreen]exhibits human frailty worse than humans themselves[/color].

The Bible records this strange God enjoying the smell of burning animal flesh and blood. This God is too human - in fact, more human than human - too petty, and so imperfect he's too SMALL for the vast universe. This is a God said to be INFINITELY beyond us and removed from the imperfect human condition. Yet he's JEALOUS that people worship idols that he knows DO NOT EXIST. So, how can they be in competition with him? This is clearly a human character created by humans, not so different from the Greek Gods on Mount Olympus.
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 6:29am On Oct 07, 2017
asuustrike2009:
When the time come you will eat these sentences.
When the time comes, you will regret not following my religion of Islam, and my Most Beloved Creature in all existence, Muhammed - the imprecations of Yoruba witches be upon him. Sounds ridiculous, right?

That's exactly how I feel about your comment.
Re: Where Was God??? by Originakalokalo(m): 6:48am On Oct 07, 2017
OtemAtum:
Here is what God Almighty the father of Yahweh even said about his character in the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH
Noted.
Re: Where Was God??? by Daeylar(f): 6:59am On Oct 07, 2017
AlmiqhteeAllah:
God! cheesy

What kind of pleasure could I - an imperfect human being - derive from the worship and reverence of butterflies? Yet a perfect God who NEEDS NOTHING and should have no weakness [color=darkgreen]exhibits human frailty worse than humans themselves[/color].

The Bible records this strange God enjoying the smell of burning animal flesh and blood. This God is too human - in fact, more human than human - too petty, and so imperfect he's too SMALL for the vast universe. This is a God said to be INFINITELY beyond us and removed from the imperfect human condition. Yet he's JEALOUS that people worship idols that he knows DO NOT EXIST. So, how can they be in competition with him? This is clearly a human character created by humans, not so different from the Greek Gods on Mount Olympus.
Oooo I see
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 9:13am On Oct 07, 2017
Babatunde360:
Stupid people like this are why Nigeria is not moving foward
My people perish for lack of knowledge.
Re: Where Was God??? by Mujtahida: 9:26am On Oct 07, 2017
Originakalokalo:
To your god it is ridiculous.

To Jehovah, he is happy to dwell in us.

He created the vast universe. He also created the ants.

He wants to be called Father. What a wonderful God we serve?

So merciful that a prophet complained about his mercy.

So merciful that despite words and insults from Nairaland, we all still live.

He reads the comments and stay silent, waiting for repentance.

( If I were God, alot of people on this site will be eaten alive by worms. That's why I am not fit to be God. I lack abundant mercy)

His judgement? You can't stand it.

If you do his will and present your body holy and acceptable, he dwells in you.

The Earth is his footstool.Imagine his size?


Yet he is happy to dwell in us.
So God can read comments but he can't talk? hmmm, tell me more.
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 9:50am On Oct 07, 2017
AlmiqhteeAllah:
When the time comes, you will regret not following my religion of Islam, and my Most Beloved Creature in all existence, Muhammed - the imprecations of Yoruba witches be upon him. Sounds ridiculous, right?

That's exactly how I feel about your comment.
I can never come to Islam.oil and water can't move together.
Re: Where Was God??? by Nobody: 10:00am On Oct 07, 2017
Babatunde360:
Stupid people like this are why Nigeria is not moving foward
We are talking of personal issues you talking about Nigeria. Nigeria can never move forward because politicians knows how to press the right buttons.
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