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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by PhuckJesus666: 9:47pm On Oct 17, 2017
MrOlai:


Liar!

It's easy to forget! Remember you once told somebody that you've never done mut'ah with a virgin but that you've done it with non-virgin women!

Committing fornication/adultery with other people's wives!

Shameless human being!


Says the moronic rotblood filth who thinks that people who leave their religion must be condemned to death! You have no right to talk of shame, you stupid Mussulman!
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Rilwayne001: 10:18pm On Oct 17, 2017

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by iamgenius(m): 10:32pm On Oct 17, 2017
PhuckJesus666:


Says the moronic rotblood filth who thinks that people who leave their religion must be condemned to death! You have no right to talk of shame, you stupid Mussulman!
Who be this? Get out from here jare.
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 11:30pm On Oct 17, 2017
Rilwayne001:
In friendng's voice: I get am por fofcorn grin grin grin grin

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6006571_popcorns_jpegd4c108026655eb3809eff0973b2c5937

They tell u say I no know the diff b+w p and f.

See u. Can you pronounce /e/ sound, not the letter e.

If u ask most yoruba to say however, na big sumtin.
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by iamgenius(m): 11:49pm On Oct 17, 2017
AlBaqir:





# I am 100% sure that you have NEVER in your life see the book Tahrir wasila not to mention of verifying the copy-paste lies you just attributed to Ayatullah Khomeini and his book.

* So, I challenge you to post the scanpage of the book showing the cover page and the page of abovementioned statement that Mut'ah can be done with harlot and prostitute.

Failure to do so, you remain mal'un.

You are rather ملعون. This is what was said in the book in the eighteenth mas'ala it says and I quote word for word: "مسألة 18 - يجوز التمتع بالزانية على كراهية خصوصا لو كانت من العواهر والمشهورات بالزنا، وإن فعل فليمنعها من الفجور"

But we only need " - يجوز التمتع بالزانية" which means it's allowed to do mutah with a prostitute.

سوال:ماالملعون الان؟MrOlai او انت؟


جواب:: انت،مرات الف

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 1:28am On Oct 18, 2017
iamgenius:


You are rather ملعون. This is what was said in the book in the eighteenth mas'ala it says and I quote word for word: "مسألة 18 - يجوز التمتع بالزانية على كراهية خصوصا لو كانت من العواهر والمشهورات بالزنا، وإن فعل فليمنعها من الفجور"

But we only need " - يجوز التمتع بالزانية" which means it's allowed to do mutah with a prostitute.

سوال:ماالملعون الان؟MrOlai او انت؟


جواب:: انت،مرات الف


.جزاكم الله خيرا على ردكم علىه ىا اخى. انه مجرم صلابة. الله تبىن له الطريق الصحىح. امىن

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 1:42am On Oct 18, 2017
AlBaqir:


# I am 100% sure that you have NEVER in your life see the book Tahrir wasila not to mention of verifying the copy-paste lies you just attributed to Ayatullah Khomeini and his book.

* So, I challenge you to post the scanpage of the book showing the cover page and the page of abovementioned statement that Mut'ah can be done with harlot and prostitute.

Failure to do so, you remain mal'un.

Can you see your life?

This is the scan page of the evil fatwa of your scholar! Committing zina with harlots and prostitutes! SMH!

Shameless human being!

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Rilwayne001: 3:19am On Oct 18, 2017
FriendNG:


They tell u say I no know the diff b+w p and f.
.

98% of Hausa don't; Buhari inclusive tongue tongue

I can only vouch for Sanusi, and that's even because he had studied in England.
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by AlBaqir(m): 3:48am On Oct 18, 2017
iamgenius:


You are rather


# First, do you agree Mut'ah was practised by SAHABAH and TABI'IN, and if yes, were they ADULTERER AND FORNICATORS?

* That is the challenge your mal'un brother has been evading all day.



# Now to the Issue: CAN MUT'AH BE PERFORMED WITH AN HARLOT AND SEX WORKERS?

Qur'an 24:3 reads:

"The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or an idolatress; and the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater: and that is made haram for the believers."


# Al-Kulayni documents:

‘Ali b. Ibrahim ­ Muḥammad b. ‘Isa ­ Yunus ­ Muhammad b. al-Fudayl:

I asked Abu al-Hasan, peace be upon him, about the beautiful woman who is a prostitute: is it permissible for the man to do mut'ah with her for a day or more?" He said: "If she is famous for zina, then he must NOT do mut'ah with her and also must NOT marry her (permanently)."

Al-Majlisi comments: Muwaththaq (Reliable)

Source: Abu Ja’far Muḥammad b. Ya’qub b. Ishaq al-Kulayni al-Razi, al-Furu’ min al-Kafi (Tehran:
Dar al-Kutub al-Islamiyyah) [annotator: ‘Ali Akbar al-Ghiffari], vol. 5, p. 454, # 6



# Sheik Tusi also documents:

Ahmad b. Muhammad b. ‘Isa Muhammad b. Isma'il b. Bazi’:
A man asked al-Rida, peace be upon him, while I was listening, about the man who marries the woman in mut'ah and he imposes a condition upon her that he will not seek her child. But, she later comes with a child and he severely denies the child. So, he (al-Rida) said, "Does he deny? How can he deny primarily because of that?" Then, the man said, "What if he accuses her (of fornication)?" He (al-Rida) said, “It is not appropriate for you to marry except a faithful
woman. Verily, Allah the Almighty says: {The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or an idolatress; and the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater: and that is made haram for the believers}.

Al-Majlisi comments: Sahih


Source: Abu Ja’far Muḥammad b. al-Hasan al-Ṭusi, Tahdhib al-Ahkam (Tehran: Dar al-Kutub al-Islamiyyah) [annotator: Sayyid Hasan al-Musawi al-Khurasan], vol. 7, p. 269, Ch. 24, # 82 (1157)



NB: I STILL DEMAND THE MAS'ALA OF AYATULLAH KHOMEINI. What idiots like you do not know is such book is about Question and Answer. On what condition does the mas'ala comes, you deliberately or ignorantly etched that part off.
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 3:49am On Oct 18, 2017
Rilwayne001:


98% of Hausa don't; Buhari inclusive tongue tongue

I can only vouch for Sanusi, and that's even because he had studied in England.
Reminds me of "Old soja or baba soja" as he was fondly called, he passed away the same day MKO passed away. He served in the North.

A retired soja always carried newspaper around and played with us. When he is carried away in a conversation and he gets emotional, he used to say "We Pollow Law". We are used to call him "we pollow law".

We follow Law was his response to tasks of his duties by his seniors. Instead of raising his hand "Yes sir", he would say "we pollow law"
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Rilwayne001: 6:44am On Oct 18, 2017
Empiree:
Reminds me of "Old soja or baba soja" as he was fondly called, he passed away the same day MKO passed away. He served in the North.

A retired soja always carried newspaper around and played with us. When he is carried away in a conversation and he gets emotional, he used to say "We Pollow Law". We are used to call him "we pollow law".

We follow Law was his response to tasks of his duties by his seniors. Instead of raising his hand "Yes sir", he would say "we pollow law"

P=F
F=P

grin grin

Pollow law indeed.

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by iamgenius(m): 7:00am On Oct 18, 2017
AlBaqir:



# First, do you agree Mut'ah was practised by SAHABAH and TABI'IN, and if yes, were they ADULTERER AND FORNICATORS?

* That is the challenge your mal'un brother has been evading all day.



# Now to the Issue: CAN MUT'AH BE PERFORMED WITH AN HARLOT AND SEX WORKERS?

Qur'an 24:3 reads:

"The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or an idolatress; and the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater: and that is made haram for the believers."


# Al-Kulayni documents:

‘Ali b. Ibrahim ­ Muḥammad b. ‘Isa ­ Yunus ­ Muhammad b. al-Fudayl:

I asked Abu al-Hasan, peace be upon him, about the beautiful woman who is a prostitute: is it permissible for the man to do mut'ah with her for a day or more?" He said: "If she is famous for zina, then he must NOT do mut'ah with her and also must NOT marry her (permanently)."

Al-Majlisi comments: Muwaththaq (Reliable)

Source: Abu Ja’far Muḥammad b. Ya’qub b. Ishaq al-Kulayni al-Razi, al-Furu’ min al-Kafi (Tehran:
Dar al-Kutub al-Islamiyyah) [annotator: ‘Ali Akbar al-Ghiffari], vol. 5, p. 454, # 6



# Sheik Tusi also documents:

Ahmad b. Muhammad b. ‘Isa Muhammad b. Isma'il b. Bazi’:
A man asked al-Rida, peace be upon him, while I was listening, about the man who marries the woman in mut'ah and he imposes a condition upon her that he will not seek her child. But, she later comes with a child and he severely denies the child. So, he (al-Rida) said, "Does he deny? How can he deny primarily because of that?" Then, the man said, "What if he accuses her (of fornication)?" He (al-Rida) said, “It is not appropriate for you to marry except a faithful
woman. Verily, Allah the Almighty says: {The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or an idolatress; and the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater: and that is made haram for the believers}.

Al-Majlisi comments: Sahih


Source: Abu Ja’far Muḥammad b. al-Hasan al-Ṭusi, Tahdhib al-Ahkam (Tehran: Dar al-Kutub al-Islamiyyah) [annotator: Sayyid Hasan al-Musawi al-Khurasan], vol. 7, p. 269, Ch. 24, # 82 (1157)



NB: I STILL DEMAND THE MAS'ALA OF AYATULLAH KHOMEINI. What idiots like you do not know is such book is about Question and Answer. On what condition does the mas'ala comes, you deliberately or ignorantly etched that part off.

Even before you reply me I know what you will say. I only allow fool like you go free when you are wasting my precious time.

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by iamgenius(m): 7:18am On Oct 18, 2017
MrOlai:



.جزاكم الله خيرا على ردكم علىه ىا اخى. انه مجرم صلابة. الله تبىن له الطريق الصحىح. امىن



Aamin and you too bro.

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 2:37pm On Oct 18, 2017
Rilwayne001:


98% of Hausa don't; Buhari inclusive tongue tongue

I can only vouch for Sanusi, and that's even because he had studied in England.

The tongue can pronounce both "F" and "P" but many dont know there is a difference between the two and the reason is simple. "P" is not part of the Hausa Alphabet. Who is Sunusi? When was he born? Listen to the likes of The Golden Voice of Nigeria Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, Alhaji Yusuf Maitama Sule etc.


But when it comes to Yoruba, the tongue can cannot pronounce the sound /e/. Ask Yoruba to pronounce "However", they will say How-hever.
All my yoruba teachers back then in secondary school are not able to say so. And I believe you cannot pronounce it either.


99.9% cannot. As for me I can my tongue is capable of any alphabet. Alhamdulillah.

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Rilwayne001: 2:41pm On Oct 18, 2017
FriendNG:


But when it comes to Yoruba, the tongue can cannot pronounce the sound /e/. Ask Yoruba to pronounce "However", they will say How-hever.
.

At least a typical Yoruba won't say 'HoweBER' grin grin tongue

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Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by AlBaqir(m): 2:42pm On Oct 18, 2017
Rilwayne001:

At least a typical Yoruba won't say 'HoweBER' grin grin tongue
grin grin grin Rilwayne001, you wan chop "eBER" ni?
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 2:48pm On Oct 18, 2017
Rilwayne001:


At least a typical Yoruba won't say 'HoweBER' grin grin tongue



But he cannot say "However" either rather howHever. And if u can halla me via whatsapp. Lets see who can and who cannot.
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 2:57pm On Oct 18, 2017
Rilwayne001:


At least a typical Yoruba won't say 'HoweBER' grin grin tongue

lol... .but I don't get his accusation here though "how hever".

Its all boils down to accent. grin

Tafabalewa really got good accent and he was fluent
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 3:11pm On Oct 18, 2017
Empiree:
lol... .but I don't get his accusation here though "how hever".

Its all boils down to accent. grin

Tafabalewa really got good accent and he was fluent


My accusation is most Yoruba cannot pronounce the /e/ sound (not the "e" alphabet)
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 3:14pm On Oct 18, 2017
Empiree:
lol... .but I don't get his accusation here though "how hever".

Its all boils down to accent. grin

Tafabalewa really got good accent and he was fluent


My accusation is most Yoruba cannot pronounce the /e/ sound (not the "e" alphabet)

Ok if you still dont understand listen to Adeyinka Grandson video. That is an example for you.


" We will poison their hair (air) "
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 4:20pm On Oct 18, 2017
FriendNG:



My accusation is most Yoruba cannot pronounce the /e/ sound (not the "e" alphabet)

Ok if you still dont understand listen to Adeyinka Grandson video. That is an example for you.


" We will poison their hair (air) "
I dont even know the dude. Checked him out now and listened to his 4 mins clip. I don't really like what he is agitating for and trash he was saying. Na him sabi. I can say HOWEVER clearly. cheesy unless i choose to switch to Ghanaian accent "werk" grin instead of work. "I have to go to werk tomorrow"
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Rilwayne001: 4:35pm On Oct 18, 2017
FriendNG:



But he cannot say "However" either rather howHever. And if u can halla me via whatsapp. Lets see who can and who cannot.
Lmao grin grin then send me VN on WhatsApp pronouncing 'however'

AlBaqir:


grin grin grin Rilwayne001, you wan chop "eBER" ni?

Na my Abokiii friendng jare.

Empiree:
lol... .but I don't get his accusation here though "how hever".


I honestly don't too.
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 4:59pm On Oct 18, 2017
Rilwayne001:

Lmao grin grin then send me VN on WhatsApp pronouncing 'however'

Can you say however! Not How-hever. Waiting 4 u. Then I will send mine.
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Rilwayne001: 5:08pm On Oct 18, 2017
FriendNG:


Can you say however! Not However. Waiting 4 u. Then I will send mine.

I don't have time undecided
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 5:11pm On Oct 18, 2017
Rilwayne001:


I don't have time undecided

grin grin
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 6:03pm On Oct 18, 2017
Empiree:
I dont even know the dude. Checked him out now and listened to his 4 mins clip. I don't really like what he is agitating for and trash he was saying. Na him sabi. I can say HOWEVER clearly. cheesy unless i choose to switch to Ghanaian accent "werk" grin instead of work. "I have to go to werk tomorrow"



Do you hear him say air?
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 6:19pm On Oct 18, 2017
FriendNG:



Do you hear him say air?
Actually not. Maybe not this clip. You have a clip and pinpoint the spot?
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 7:37pm On Oct 18, 2017
Empiree:
Actually not. Maybe not this clip. You have a clip and pinpoint the spot?

I check it but YouTube done delete the video for violating YouTube police.
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 7:49pm On Oct 18, 2017
FriendNG:


I check it but YouTube done delete the video for violating YouTube police.
I guess bcus he pronounced "werk" instead of work, in violation of YouTube pronunciation code cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by FriendNG: 7:50pm On Oct 18, 2017
Empiree:
I guess bcus he pronounced "werk" instead of work, in violation of YouTube pronunciation code cheesy cheesy grin


Hmm. Check this thread from 2009 https://www.nairaland.com/229011/whats-h-factor
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 8:12pm On Oct 18, 2017
FriendNG:



Hmm. Check this thread from 2009 https://www.nairaland.com/229011/whats-h-factor
Lol...pronunciation barriers really messed up the thread.

Well, there is no big deal. It is just accent. Same applies to White folks. They can not pronounce two consonants together but they usually make lots of efforts to do so especially during graduation, he/she must be practicing to pronounce them ahead when callings names of graduates. I think many yorubas too have hard time pronouncing 'P' in 'SHO P'. They say it like SHO B . Interestingly however, if they say SHOPPING in a sentence, they pronounce 'P' instead of "SHO BB ING"

A simple Yoruba movie will reveal this. "I am going to shob", especially if they talk fast.

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