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Madcow:
Many thanks.

The TRV was for "General Visit" not study.

balogunsam:
Thank you God!!

@Kontagious @Glitteringstar @Hephgirl @threadstone @Jummolami and others who have been most helpful, thank you!

ITA dropped around 4AM...was waiting and refreshing all night but had to succumb to sleep around 2AM.

Una thank you!


Timeline so far:

IELTS: May 13, 2017
ECA: October 12, 2017
Entry into Pool: October 13, 2017
Removed Business Experience: October 14, 2017 (Spirit was not settled with the information provided)
ITA: October 18, 2017
COPR: February 16, 2018
Landing: March 13, 2018

**italicised text in faith**

**anyone who has 7m they are not using should borrow me o... @hephgirl ma... i have a feeling i'll hear

nagode!

sleekysilk:
You still ave to cancel the TRV. Because for visiting, you are to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you don't have intention to stay back, that you are retuning to your country after the visit. Now that u have an ITA, that clearly negates ur intent because it means you have plans to permanently live in Canada. Based on ur dual (contradicting) intentions, ur TRV is likely to be rejected. So it's best you cancel it yourself. Hope I'm clear enough.

daremum:
Good Morning All/Elders,
Please i need your swift advice on this dilemma!
Pre ITA we choose that we have relationship in Canada to which the person is my grandmother younger sister son!-Uncle!!!
Find attached screenshots showing that we picked him as uncle.
Calculated score for EE profile we got zero (0) for relationship in canada despite picking Uncle and saying we have a relationship there in canada.
Despite the zero for relationship we got ITA.
Now post ITA should we include that we have an uncle or not since we got zero point.
However for my uncle he is ready to drop his pr card and birth certificate.
Will this be enough for our proof of relationship with him.

Thanks to you all.

Madcow:
Many thanks Bro.

I will proceed as advised, I applied online so i am still with my passport... I logged on to my profile and i cannot find a link/instructions to withdraw/discontinue the application.

Please from your experience, how do you think i can go about this?

cochtrane:
Looked in detail into this foreign work experience stuff and found some things:

Apparently, CIC allows (or should allow) the use of foreign work experience (outside Canada) in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0, A or B. This means, you could effectively combine different NOCs in your application. This justifies merrymum's application which combined work experience in finance and oil&gas. This is acceptable as long as it

1. consists of full-time work experience
2. is acquired within the 10-year period preceding application
3. paid, etc.

So, if you've got 3 years of such various NOCs (0, A & B only), you can get the maximum points for express entry and obtain a decent CRS score. This is according to the ministerial instruction for the express entry application system. According to the document, under "Foreign Work Experience":

25 (1) For the purposes of sections 23 and 24, foreign work experience is work experience that

(a) is acquired by a foreign national outside Canada in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0 Management Occupations or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification matrix;

https://www.imgur.com/xjhs33D.png

Now, for the different schemes under EE, other conditions apply.

https://www.imgur.com/T9Rzr62.png

However, to qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Worker program, you would need only one primary NOC and you'll make sure to have at least 1 year on this NOC, which should be 0, A or B. And of course, it must meet all the other FSW requirements as below. In the same vein, you can combine NOCs here to complete 1 year. However, they must all be in the same NOC.

https://www.imgur.com/RepQgPi.png

This would be what that IRCC tweet meant. The answer was posed wrongly and should have referred to the FSW program.

https://www.imgur.com/iPOTbfa.png

To qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Trades program, your work experience would need to meet a separate list of requirements, including that it should be 2 years and should be within 5 years of application, not 10.

On the other hand, to qualify for PR under the Canadian Experience Class, the requirement for work experience is that it must be 1-year and be obtained within three years of application.

As you'll see, all of these different work experiences are all subset of the work experience required under express entry, which in itself has no limit on the number of NOCs you can combine.


So, as an example, let's say Bisi has 2-year work experience as a paid teacher and 1-year as a banker with GTB, all within 10 years of applying under FSW through Express Entry. Bisi should sure be able to claim maximum score for experience under Express Entry (3 years of experience), thereby boosting her CRS score. But in order to qualify for PR under FSW, she will only be able to use one NOC, either as a paid teacher (and claim 2 years) or as a banker (and claim 1 year). If any of these is unable to elevate her above the required 67pts under FSW, she may remain ineligible for FSW even though she may have high CRS score.

If the same Bisi has 5-month experience each as a paid teacher, banker, engineer & lawyer, she will have a sum of 1 year & 8 months experience in different NOCs which she can use to obtain a good CRS score under express entry, but will remain ineligible for PR under FSW as she doesn't have the required minimum of 1 year in any NOC, i.e. she has no primary NOC.

Similarly, if Bisi has 2-month experience each as an accountant with KPMG, E&Y, Deloitte, Firstbank, GTB & Stanbic (wow, Bisis must be one brilliant chic, lol!), she would have raked in 1-year experience in a primary NOC (accountancy) and should thus be eligible to combine these NOCs towards PR under the FSW scheme.

In the case of merrymum, my good guess is that while the sum of different NOCs boosted her CRS score under express entry, only one of the NOCs was sufficient to ensure she got the necessary score above 67 which she needed under FSW. Let's look at it: she has a 2.5-year experience as an engineer. This means she could have gotten for FSW, with CLB 9, 24pts on language, 21 pts for Education (let's say she has only Bachelor's), 11 pts for work experience, and 12pts for Age (I'm sure she is between 18-35). This would have taken her FSW score to 68/100 and would have qualified her neatly with only one job experience. She can come and clear this; I could be wrong.

These are just findings from looking at the details. We needed to clear this as it is causing too much confusion. Anyways, who knows, I may be wrong.

cochtrane:
If the same Bisi has 5-month experience each as a paid teacher, banker, engineer & lawyer, she will have a sum of 1 year & 8 months experience in different NOCs which she can use to obtain a good CRS score under express entry, but will remain ineligible for PR under FSW as she doesn't have the required minimum of 1 year in any NOC, i.e. she has no primary NOC.

Similarly, if Bisi has 2-month experience each as an accountant with KPMG, E&Y, Deloitte, Firstbank, GTB & Stanbic (wow, Bisis must be one brilliant chic, lol!), she would have raked in 1-year experience in a primary NOC (accountancy) and should thus be eligible to combine these NOCs towards PR under the FSW scheme.

In the case of merrymum, my good guess is that while the sum of different NOCs boosted her CRS score under express entry, only one of the NOCs was sufficient to ensure she got the necessary score above 67 which she needed under FSW. Let's look at it: she has a 2.5-year experience as an engineer. This means she could have gotten for FSW, with CLB 9, 24pts on language, 21 pts for Education (let's say she has only Bachelor's), 11 pts for work experience, and 12pts for Age (I'm sure she is between 18-35). This would have taken her FSW score to 68/100 and would have qualified her neatly with only one job experience. She can come and clear this; I could be wrong.

These are just findings from looking at the details. We needed to clear this as it is causing too much confusion. Anyways, who knows, I may be wrong.

Santino1:
Remember the golden rule in applications: Always provide more info than less.

If you can get your Uncle to send you a scan copy of their PR and proof of residency, then it won't hurt your application. You can simply explain the apparent discrepancy in your LOE.

Hephgirl:
hi stranger

chiobich:
Good morning all,

Thanks for the swift response yesterday. I appreciate it. I hope I am not being a bother if I ask another question. I was not going to but my former employers just contacted me yesterday evening and said that they cannot help me with tweaking my duties while I was there to align with any NOC. I was with them for 4 years as a Funds Transfer officer. See details of my roles below. I would really really appreciate your answers once again in helping me decide on which NOC is best. The thing is giving me worry. Don't want it to be this NOC wahala that will give me problem after sorting the distance learning thing. Thanks.

• Accurately processing a variety of financial transactions.
• Balancing work daily, and supporting the operations and service functions of the branch, including adherence to all security, reconciliation, monitoring and balancing policies and procedures.
• File documents and correspondence, and maintain security within the unit.
• Handle all funds transfer instructions.
• Handle remittance of regulatory returns upon receipt of authorization.
• Liaise with interfacing functions within the bank (SWIFT, Treasury Operations, Clearing and other branches) in the execution of daily duties.
• Maintain an accurate record of all activities and transactions.
• Perform other duties as assigned by Unit head/Team Lead.
• Prepare daily proof of transit accounts and monthly proof of all accounts
• Proactively identify referral opportunities utilizing the fundamentals of the sales process by uncovering customer needs and suggesting bank products and services.
• Process all inflows and outflows of funds (SWIFT, inter-branch transfers, VAT payments, etc) according to requirements of set policies and procedures.
• Process and handles Managers Cheques request and issuance.
• Process and transmit all clearing instruments through the central clearing /municipal/or Zonal clearing unit in line with the Bank clearing procedure.
• Process of treasury and money market products.
• Process salaries accounts and ensure quick credit to salary accounts.
• Process standing order instructions/transactions.
• Provide regular reports/updates as required for management attention
• Provide support in expense processing/posting and prepare daily expense monitoring report.
• Reconcile prepaid expenses and other sundry accounts daily.
• Reconcile sundry statements of accounts and resolve identified outstanding items.
• Remittance of taxes and rendition of regulatory and internal reports.

balogunsam:
Reach WES Advisor via Facebook and explain in firm terms what you just explained. Also remember to quote your WES reference number. Cheers!

Kingbukaz:
7m for family abi?

ehix89:
Good day all,

Just a quick one...Should my institute include my WES Reference number to my transcript before sending it?

Noviolence:
Congratulations to our latest ITA recipients.
@London gang, I can see PPR rain soonest.
Seeing Like about 90 days in NA2 before IP2 these days from the immitracker site.
Also IP2 to PPR taking between 30minutes to about 20 days.
For extra security screening timeline during IP2....Let's not even go there.

Abbylee:
I'm curious, I have an uncle as well and i understand i won't get any CRS points from adding him. So whats the point exactly What benefit does it have?

KINGTELLER:
What I want to do is fill my child in the form as part of the people to get PR but I will exempt my wife (for reason I may not be able to disclose online).

In order to get maximum point I dont want to fill my wife(spouse) since including her in my EE evaluation is dropping my CSR from 432 to 411.

I want to gather all point by applying as married applicant (married but wife not accompanying) but I will include my daughter as accompanying.

Is it possible to include my child as a dependant, I beg make una help... I need this answer to fill my EE application.

chuckdee13:
Stranger ke....u wish. other matters arising ur phone will soon ring. I want to report myself

superdoll:
Hmmm! I just pmed u . Kindly also help me with the womans number. Have u successfully gotten ur eca from wes?

Thanks alot

daremum:
Please House,
what do i need to do?

Please respond!!!!

balogunsam:
Thank you God!!




Timeline so far:

IELTS: May 13, 2017
ECA: October 12, 2017
Entry into Pool: October 13, 2017
Removed Business Experience: October 14, 2017 (Spirit was not settled with the information provided)
ITA: October 18, 2017
COPR: February 16, 2018
Landing: March 13, 2018

**italicised text in faith**

**

nagode!

Abbylee:
I'm curious, I have an uncle as well and i understand i won't get any CRS points from adding him. So whats the point exactly What benefit does it have?

MippiShick:
Yeeee pa! ITA o!!!!!!! And i'm on 433.

Hephgirl:
yes

daremum:
Thank you.

I included my uncle before getting ITA,got no point for using him as my uncle,POST ITA, i prefer to not use him at all,

am i good to go?

KINGTELLER:
What I want to do is fill my child in the form as part of the people to get PR but I will exempt my wife (for reason I may not be able to disclose online).

In order to get maximum point I dont want to fill my wife(spouse) since including her in my EE evaluation is dropping my CSR from 432 to 411.

I want to gather all point by applying as married applicant (married but wife not accompanying) but I will include my daughter as accompanying.

Is it possible to include my child as a dependant, I beg make una help... I need this answer to fill my EE application.

Cc: kontagious, 40manlappy, Yooku, Hephgirl and others....

Abby2017:
Don't mean to be a pessimist but it is better to be save than be sorry, no one knows what tomorrow holds.
We have seen cases on this thread where the entire 6month plus some days was used in processing their application. If people like that had medicals done about 2months before their AOR for whatever reason, do the maths plus PPR to COPR wait time.
That candidate will have barely 2months to exit before expiration of medicals, yea 2months is sufficient for someone that wants to exit immediately. But then, why not gain more time from onset by doing medicals close enough to submission date as advised by CIC so your decision to exit won't be excessively timebound.

smslive2:
that should be for Family of 4

Madcow:
Hey Bro,

Please i am not very clear... do i cancel the Temporary Resident Visa Application? or defer my ITA?