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Deebay:
Hi.
Sorry for the late response, yeah there was a year and half gap after my nysc.
Yes I am using the same NOC of nysc as my other job, which I got 1.5 years after nysc.
Since I could get ref letter from my ppa I decided to add it.

Yooku:
Predictions, predictions, predictions People are going "nuts" in London VO Whatsapp Group at the crazy London VO timelines
The thing don dey tire me well well well

@yewwy @veleta @deeore @ lordnath @ajujuju2 @yewwygrace @boldinc @mrsbee

Yooku:
When you fill in your wife's details as unaccompanying does that maintain your points? If you can do that there is no issue with your daughter included as a dependant. I think she should be able to go with you once your PR is granted. Cheers

chuckdee13:
I'm guessing no one saw this post. Congrats mippishick. its odd but we all know the Good Lord works in mysterious ways.

Yooku:
There is a form that WES sends you which needs to be filled out by your Academic Registrar or whoever works on your transcript and included in the same sealed envelope your transcript is placed in. Cheers!

elfmann:
Cancel ITA.

GlitteringStar:
You can get 5 points for adaptability if you have a relative (parent, grandparent, child, sibling, uncle or aunt, niece or nephew) who is a PR/Canadian citizen living in Canada under the FSW program but for the 15 additional CRS Express Entry points, you need to have a sibling in Canada who is a PR/Citizen.

cochtrane:
Looked in detail into this foreign work experience stuff and found some things:

Apparently, CIC allows (or should allow) the use of foreign work experience (outside Canada) in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0, A or B. This means, you could effectively combine different NOCs in your application. This justifies merrymum's application which combined work experience in finance and oil&gas. This is acceptable as long as it

1. consists of full-time work experience
2. is acquired within the 10-year period preceding application
3. paid, etc.

So, if you've got 3 years of such various NOCs (0, A & B only), you can get the maximum points for express entry and obtain a decent CRS score. This is according to the ministerial instruction for the express entry application system. According to the document, under "Foreign Work Experience":

25 (1) For the purposes of sections 23 and 24, foreign work experience is work experience that

(a) is acquired by a foreign national outside Canada in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0 Management Occupations or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification matrix;

https://www.imgur.com/xjhs33D.png

Now, for the different schemes under EE, other conditions apply.

https://www.imgur.com/T9Rzr62.png

However, to qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Worker program, you would need only one primary NOC and you'll make sure to have at least 1 year on this NOC, which should be 0, A or B. And of course, it must meet all the other FSW requirements as below. In the same vein, you can combine NOCs here to complete 1 year. However, they must all be in the same NOC.

https://www.imgur.com/RepQgPi.png

This would be what that IRCC tweet meant. The answer was posed wrongly and should have referred to the FSW program.

https://www.imgur.com/iPOTbfa.png

To qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Trades program, your work experience would need to meet a separate list of requirements, including that it should be 2 years and should be within 5 years of application, not 10.

On the other hand, to qualify for PR under the Canadian Experience Class, the requirement for work experience is that it must be 1-year and be obtained within three years of application.

As you'll see, all of these different work experiences are all subset of the work experience required under express entry, which in itself has no limit on the number of NOCs you can combine.


So, as an example, let's say Bisi has 2-year work experience as a paid teacher and 1-year as a banker with GTB, all within 10 years of applying under FSW through Express Entry. Bisi should sure be able to claim maximum score for experience under Express Entry (3 years of experience), thereby boosting her CRS score. But in order to qualify for PR under FSW, she will only be able to use one NOC, either as a paid teacher (and claim 2 years) or as a banker (and claim 1 year). If any of these is unable to elevate her above the required 67pts under FSW, she may remain ineligible for FSW even though she may have high CRS score.

If the same Bisi has 5-month experience each as a paid teacher, banker, engineer & lawyer, she will have a sum of 1 year & 8 months experience in different NOCs which she can use to obtain a good CRS score under express entry, but will remain ineligible for PR under FSW as she doesn't have the required minimum of 1 year in any NOC, i.e. she has no primary NOC.

Similarly, if Bisi has 2-month experience each as an accountant with KPMG, E&Y, Deloitte, Firstbank, GTB & Stanbic (wow, Bisis must be one brilliant chic, lol!), she would have raked in 1-year experience in a primary NOC (accountancy) and should thus be eligible to combine these NOCs towards PR under the FSW scheme.

In the case of merrymum, my good guess is that while the sum of different NOCs boosted her CRS score under express entry, only one of the NOCs was sufficient to ensure she got the necessary score above 67 which she needed under FSW. Let's look at it: she has a 2.5-year experience as an engineer. This means she could have gotten for FSW, with CLB 9, 24pts on language, 21 pts for Education (let's say she has only Bachelor's), 11 pts for work experience, and 12pts for Age (I'm sure she is between 18-35). This would have taken her FSW score to 68/100 and would have qualified her neatly with only one job experience. She can come and clear this; I could be wrong.

These are just findings from looking at the details. We needed to clear this as it is causing too much confusion. Anyways, who knows, I may be wrong.

KINGTELLER:
Yes, once I fill her as unaccompanying, I maintain my points. but if I click "YES" for spouse accompanying, my CRS score reduces

daremum:
Thank you.

I included my uncle before getting ITA,got no point for using him as my uncle,POST ITA, i prefer to not use him at all,

am i good to go?

GlitteringStar:
You can get 5 points for adaptability if you have a relative (parent, grandparent, child, sibling, uncle or aunt, niece or nephew) who is a PR/Canadian citizen living in Canada under the FSW program but for the 15 additional CRS Express Entry points, you need to have a sibling in Canada who is a PR/Citizen.

Hephgirl:
Married applicant both have PhD
Both maximum score on ielts
Both are 29 and 30
She has a sibling who is a citizen.
Husband has trf

I calculated and what I saw didn't seem possible.

Some people are silently chopping crs scores

sleekysilk:
She can do IELTS and possibly ECA to up your CRS back to 432 if not more. The only reason why you will hava a lower CRS is if youfill her as accompanying and she did not support you with her IELTS and ECA.
An accompanying spouse with IELTS &ECA will give almost same CRS as a non accompanying spouse. CRS might even be more sef

ugoiyke79e:
Congrays to all ITA recipients........I am sure you guys/ladies will sleep like kings/queens tonight....Just a few reminders.

--Strictly adhere to all the specificied document format,type and content.
--Scan and save each document with its appropriate name . This is to avoid confusion when uploadining.
--upload each document in d correct placeholder.
--use your LOE judiciously.
--stall your medical exam till a few days (or even same day) of submission.
--Pray,pray, & pray again. for a good VO and LVO
--Start packing your stuff
We are all expecting ppr rains frm y'all.

chuckdee13:
I'm guessing no one saw this post. Congrats mippishick. its odd but we all know the Good Lord works in mysterious ways.

daremum:
Thank you.

I included my uncle before getting ITA,got no point for using him as my uncle,POST ITA, i prefer to not use him at all,

am i good to go?

Madcow:
Many thanks Bro.

I will proceed as advised, I applied online so i am still with my passport... I logged on to my profile and i cannot find a link/instructions to withdraw/discontinue the application.

Please from your experience, how do you think i can go about this?

Abbylee:
So this means the 5 points will only be useful if i take the provincial nomination route right?

elfmann:
Cancel ITA.

elfmann:
Cancel ITA.

Madcow:
I will be thankful if you could elaborate why.

Kind regards,

cochtrane:
Looked in detail into this foreign work experience stuff and found some things:

Apparently, CIC allows (or should allow) the use of foreign work experience (outside Canada) in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0, A or B. This means, you could effectively combine different NOCs in your application. This justifies merrymum's application which combined work experience in finance and oil&gas. This is acceptable as long as it

1. consists of full-time work experience
2. is acquired within the 10-year period preceding application
3. paid, etc.

So, if you've got 3 years of such various NOCs (0, A & B only), you can get the maximum points for express entry and obtain a decent CRS score. This is according to the ministerial instruction for the express entry application system. According to the document, under "Foreign Work Experience":

25 (1) For the purposes of sections 23 and 24, foreign work experience is work experience that

(a) is acquired by a foreign national outside Canada in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0 Management Occupations or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification matrix;

https://www.imgur.com/xjhs33D.png

Now, for the different schemes under EE, other conditions apply.

https://www.imgur.com/T9Rzr62.png

However, to qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Worker program, you would need only one primary NOC and you'll make sure to have at least 1 year on this NOC, which should be 0, A or B. And of course, it must meet all the other FSW requirements as below. In the same vein, you can combine NOCs here to complete 1 year. However, they must all be in the same NOC.

https://www.imgur.com/RepQgPi.png

This would be what that IRCC tweet meant. The answer was posed wrongly and should have referred to the FSW program.

https://www.imgur.com/iPOTbfa.png

To qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Trades program, your work experience would need to meet a separate list of requirements, including that it should be 2 years and should be within 5 years of application, not 10.

On the other hand, to qualify for PR under the Canadian Experience Class, the requirement for work experience is that it must be 1-year and be obtained within three years of application.

As you'll see, all of these different work experiences are all subset of the work experience required under express entry, which in itself has no limit on the number of NOCs you can combine.


So, as an example, let's say Bisi has 2-year work experience as a paid teacher and 1-year as a banker with GTB, all within 10 years of applying under FSW through Express Entry. Bisi should sure be able to claim maximum score for experience under Express Entry (3 years of experience), thereby boosting her CRS score. But in order to qualify for PR under FSW, she will only be able to use one NOC, either as a paid teacher (and claim 2 years) or as a banker (and claim 1 year). If any of these is unable to elevate her above the required 67pts under FSW, she may remain ineligible for FSW even though she may have high CRS score.

If the same Bisi has 5-month experience each as a paid teacher, banker, engineer & lawyer, she will have a sum of 1 year & 8 months experience in different NOCs which she can use to obtain a good CRS score under express entry, but will remain ineligible for PR under FSW as she doesn't have the required minimum of 1 year in any NOC, i.e. she has no primary NOC.

Similarly, if Bisi has 2-month experience each as an accountant with KPMG, E&Y, Deloitte, Firstbank, GTB & Stanbic (wow, Bisis must be one brilliant chic, lol!), she would have raked in 1-year experience in a primary NOC (accountancy) and should thus be eligible to combine these NOCs towards PR under the FSW scheme.

In the case of merrymum, my good guess is that while the sum of different NOCs boosted her CRS score under express entry, only one of the NOCs was sufficient to ensure she got the necessary score above 67 which she needed under FSW. Let's look at it: she has a 2.5-year experience as an engineer. This means she could have gotten for FSW, with CLB 9, 24pts on language, 21 pts for Education (let's say she has only Bachelor's), 11 pts for work experience, and 12pts for Age (I'm sure she is between 18-35). This would have taken her FSW score to 68/100 and would have qualified her neatly with only one job experience. She can come and clear this; I could be wrong.

These are just findings from looking at the details. We needed to clear this as it is causing too much confusion. Anyways, who knows, I may be wrong.

balogunsam:
Thank you God!!

@Kontagious @Glitteringstar @Hephgirl @threadstone @Jummolami and others who have been most helpful, thank you!

ITA dropped around 4AM...was waiting and refreshing all night but had to succumb to sleep around 2AM.

Una thank you!


Timeline so far:

IELTS: May 13, 2017
ECA: October 12, 2017
Entry into Pool: October 13, 2017
Removed Business Experience: October 14, 2017 (Spirit was not settled with the information provided)
ITA: October 18, 2017
COPR: February 16, 2018
Landing: March 13, 2018

**italicised text in faith**

**anyone who has 7m they are not using should borrow me o... @hephgirl ma... i have a feeling i'll hear from you soon!

nagode!

Yooku:
Predictions, predictions, predictions People are going "nuts" in London VO Whatsapp Group at the crazy London VO timelines
The thing don dey tire me well well well

@yewwy @veleta @deeore @ lordnath @ajujuju2 @yewwygrace @boldinc @mrsbee

sleekysilk:
You still ave to cancel the TRV. Because for visiting, you are to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you don't have intention to stay back, that you are retuning to your country after the visit. Now that u have an ITA, that clearly negates ur intent because it means you have plans to permanently live in Canada. Based on ur dual (contradicting) intentions, ur TRV is likely to be rejected. So it's best you cancel it yourself. Hope I'm clear enough.

Madcow:
Many thanks.

The TRV was for "General Visit" not study.

sleekysilk:
You still ave to cancel the TRV. Because for visiting, you are to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you don't have intention to stay back, that you are retuning to your country after the visit. Now that u have an ITA, that clearly negates ur intent because it means you have plans to permanently live in Canada. Based on ur dual (contradicting) intentions, ur TRV is likely to be rejected. So it's best you cancel it yourself. Hope I'm clear enough.

KINGTELLER:
Yes, I know but I dont want to expense money on her doing all that , she is not really showing much interest and I can't afford to raise much money doing IELTs and ECA for her (Lots of project on ground to do my brother).... To be frank with you the purpose of doing this thing is to secure my child future not that I too really have much [b]interest [/b]as such

Lordnath:
Today marks 80 days in NA2. I'm tired mehn, tired of analysing cases on immitracker just to determine possible PPR date. So I decided to take a 'siddon look' approach and focus instead on my travel plans.

Let them take their time in Trafalgar Square...when it exceeds normal processing timeframe, I'll bring down their door.
Good luck all London crew and all the best with travel plans.

einsteino:
dont mind me, i forgot to share that with the house.

here is my timeline for ECA

accessing body: WES
degree: Bachelor of Engineering
School: UNN

Applied for ECA and Paid fees : 30-JUL-2017
Applied for transcript: 8-AUG-2017 (application was done online using UNN itranscript portal)
sent copy of cert via Hellofax: 25-AUG-2017
WES acknowledged receipt of cert : 25-AUG-2017
UNN despatched transcript via DHL: 28-AUG-2017
Transcripts received by WES: 31-AUG-2017
Got pissed with WES delay in acknowledging receipt of trnscript, sent email and fax demanding update :6-SEP-2017
Staus changed to documents received- awaiting Verification : 7-SEP-2017
Applied for Verification of transcript: 11-SEP-2017 (application was done online using UNN iVerification portal)
sent someone in school to go ginger my verification: 18-SEP-2017
Verification sent: 19-SEP-2017
Staus changed to Document Received - Review in progress :20-SEP-2017
ETA updated as 11-OCT-2017.. dont know when it happened
Staus changed to Final Review :10-OCT-2017
ECA completed : 11-OCT-2017