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Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by veykey: 11:23am On Oct 21, 2017
Babcock university teaching hospital is also something else
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by confirmcoolguy(m): 1:06pm On Oct 21, 2017
The only major fear I envisage concerning this giant stride is the location. What will run the place down is the availability of patients that can really pay for the health service. That was what the so called World Class Hospital in Akwa Ibom had and it was eventually closed down. I pray that God will help them sha because I love this
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by Mambox: 1:38pm On Oct 21, 2017
The school has enjoyed far more development than the rest of Ekiti state did in the past 3 years.

It's sad though that the school proprietor, Chief Afe Babalola keep prodding on his godson Fayose who have reduced the esteemed office of a governor to a mere melodramatic satire.

Great strides!
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by laudate: 2:07pm On Oct 21, 2017
Statsocial:
I pray so too but considering it is private I am sure the owners would not let it rot away. Unlike govt's property which is no man's property.

I am just excited about the fact that this is a 7 ur old university. Even UCH doctors where astounded when they came over!
Olalekanbanky1:
I'm proud to be a staff of ABUAD.... We nicknamed the founder 'Kabiyesi' (means king in Yoruba Language) cos a true king makes sure his pple are always happy. Aare Baamofin of the entire Yorubaland (means d Supreme legal icon of Yorubaland)... God bless our founder/employer/mentor/philanthropist
Does it have a helipad, where patients can be airlifted into the hospital premises by helicopter?? It would be nice if it did, because the roads are so bad and considering the distance, having to airlift a patient into the hospital maybe the best and quickest option for such a patient to get access to healthcare at ABUAD.
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by laudate: 2:15pm On Oct 21, 2017
Chartey:
The problem here now is this. How will students clerk a patient who pays heavy money in this kind of facility. It may end up being a nice high-end hospital but not likely going to be a good teaching hospital.
Why won't it be a good teaching hospital? huh It is affiliated to a university with a full-fledged college of medicine, which has fully qualified professors of medicine and consultants, in attendance. In fact, I doubt if LUTH (Lagos University Teaching Hospital) which has been in existence for over 50 years, can boast of the number of staff and equipment that ABUAD Teaching hospital currently has within its premises. So what is your point? undecided

shoboy9:
This doesn't look too good. The basis of learning and research is numbers. If the patients are too few or general public cannot afford their services, it will not be able to fulfil the function of a teaching hospital. It will lose focus and die off.
The same thing was said when Babcock University opened its own hospital. sad Now, the waiting list is so long, that patients have to book appointment dates for surgery, weeks in advance. Once a good healthcare facility opens, and doctors are able to certify that it is good, the patients would come. All it takes is a referral. undecided We do not have adequate healthcare facilities within the country, so any additional one is welcome. Please pray this initiative succeeds. Do not kill it with your pessimism.....

Drabrah:
I hope it lasts too. I know Afe Babalola is an excellent business manager, buh I'm afraid cos of d location. Ekiti state is a state of farmers & salary earners wu may not be able 2 afford d cost of service befitting d edifice I'm seeing here & I wanna bliv this is not jst a "philanthropic gesture" buh dat wt some degree of business mindset though wt hospitality in view. If it were 2 be in Lag or Abj I wudn't bother, esp considering d pedigree & hx of d founder.

@Olalekanbanky1, I tagged u along cos u seem to be frm d parent institution & may, therefore, be better informed on this.
People will come from outside the state. undecided It is not for people of Ekiti State alone. I have seen patients travel all the way from Delta State to Lagos, just to be able to receive orthopedic treatment. Patients leave Ilorin in Kwara state to come to Lagos, just to receive chemotherapy. cry Patients are referred from Bayelsa to other states, simply because such patients need to access healthcare facilities that are not found within their state. I can give you real life examples. shocked The management of ABUAD just needs to market their medical services to all the NMA Associations in every state of the federation. The problem in Nigeria has always been inadequate medical facilities, and not a lack of patients willing to use those facilities, if they have the right information and adequate funds to do so. sad

All ABUAD Teaching Hospital needs to do, is to establish low-cost affordable hostels and guest houses for patients that come from outside the state and their relatives, so they can have a place to stay whenever they need to go for treatment at the hospital. undecided
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by Nobody:
horlams:
Indian medical facilities are cheap and they are not so different from Nigeria in terms of quality, they are far from the best
huh huh huh

Indian healthcare industry is a 160 billion dollar industry as of 2017

by 2020 estimated to reach 280 billion dollars

more than half the amount is from outside the country

and u r saying they r far from the best on the basis of what

FYI Fortis Memorial Research Institute in Gurgaon, India is ranked as the worlds no 1 technologically advanced medical hospital
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by laudate: 2:38pm On Oct 21, 2017
dabeto:
I remembered the much celebrated Akwa Ibom hospital built by Akpabio and why it was shut down. The hospital management said because the poor who patronizes this hospital could not pay for the bill, government was subsidizing it heavily.
On why PMB and the rich don't use hospitals in Nigeria at least the few that are equipped, the Minister for health responded that these set people need their privacy.
If you factor none patronage by those who should do so to sustain the hospital, your guess is as good as mine concerning the future of this hospital. Is Afe ready and willing to subsidize treatment for the poor?
This attitude cuts across every facet of our life.
We have to change the way we do things to build our nation.
No, sir! angry The problem with Ibom Specialist Hospital built by Akpabio was poor management, and the new state govt administration's nonchalance towards the project. Can you imagine that the hospital was NOT connected to the power grid, and had to depend on generators for several months for power? shocked Imagine the horrendous cost of providing electricity to power the entire complex. They did not recruit adequate fully qualified local staff and medical doctors to man the hospital and attend to patients, instead they relied on foreign medical personnel whose salaries were being paid in dollars. Critical equipment needed for diagnostics and providing medical care, was not even installed in the hospital! In fact, the list of bad management practices is just too long to be rehashed here...

Have you asked yourself why private hospitals such as Lagoon Hospital, St. Nicholas as well as Reddington all in Lagos, are thriving and making good profits annually? Yet govt owned hospitals are badly run and folding up? huh
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by laudate: 2:44pm On Oct 21, 2017
sonnie10:
This is exactly my point. There is no need for those elephant size "photocopy" machines. Those are CR equipment with more radiation does. People are getting rid of those for DR. In fact health insurance companies have greatly reduced the amount payable when images are taken with CR. This is in a bid to reduce how much radiation patients are exposed to. I will update with the picture of a detector which has long replaced these antiquated machines. How would people feel if they go in for a chest xray for something as simple as cough but few months down the line, they are diagnosed of cancer or some DNA mutation?
Guy, instead if thrashing their efforts online, why not reach out to ABUAD Teaching Hospital management with your observations, and offer to assist them? sad Or better still, pay a visit to the facility and give them your expert advice? Many teaching hospitals in Nigeria do not even have these 15-year old machines that you are condemning, and many patients rely on older equipment at the general hospitals for diagnosis, and even survival.

sonnie10:
You won't understand. If only you can see what I am seeing. One example, if the vacuum tube in the CR breaks, which is a common occurrence in this set up, where will they get a replacement.
Remember, that machine is more than 15years and manufacturers are no longer producing the parts, that I know. How on earth do they intend to keep up without protracted down time?
Isn't there something called after-sales maintenance programme, anymore? Or isn't training of onsite technicians, part of the deal for buying such specialised equipment? Sometimes, a manufacturer might phase out a certain piece of equipment, but 3rd party companies that have been providing technical support for such machines, might end up developing alternative options, or recycling different spare parts in order to continue offering maintenance of such equipment, in secondary markets. We have seen such things happen in the telecom industry. I don't know if the same thing occurs in the healthcare equipment sector.
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by habsydiamond(m): 2:57pm On Oct 21, 2017
sonnie10:
You think Buhari and others that go abroad for medical care don't know what they are doing?
these people are wicked, they only care about themselves and their family. am sure if any of their family members falls sick they will fly they abroad instead of using their death sentence they called machine. I pity us for Naija ooo. but am sure God will save us one day
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by horlams: 3:30pm On Oct 21, 2017
nemesis4u:
huh huh huh

Indian healthcare industry is a 160 billion dollar industry as of 2017

by 2020 estimated to reach 280 billion dollars

more than half the amount is from outside the country

and u r saying they r far from the best on the basis of what

FYI Fortis Memorial Research Institute in Gurgaon, India is ranked as the worlds no 1 technologically advanced medical hospital
Trolling the other guy. grin
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by horlams: 3:33pm On Oct 21, 2017
nemesis4u:
huh huh huh

Indian healthcare industry is a 160 billion dollar industry as of 2017

by 2020 estimated to reach 280 billion dollars

more than half the amount is from outside the country

and u r saying they r far from the best on the basis of what

FYI Fortis Memorial Research Institute in Gurgaon, India is ranked as the worlds no 1 technologically advanced medical hospital
Was just trolling grin grin. Right here where I study, our first open heart surgery was conducted under Indian specialists supervision. Most of our senior consultants undergo specialist training in India. It's cheap however.
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by Nobody: 3:50pm On Oct 21, 2017
horlams:
Trolling the other guy. grin
oh grin

anyways if my advice is of any help

this is what i will advice

in the medical sector the best approach to build a strong and self sustaining health sector of any country is through the grass root level.

these is generally done through primary health centers located at villages / community centers

and then build it up from there concurrently

unless the public is made an participant in the health center in their location, it will be difficult to make it self sustaining

in india there is a project which is very successful , this is for poor people only and there is no involvement of the government

here every family in the locality invests rupee's 300 less than 6 dollars every month multiply it with around 1000 villages
and then u have a good corpus fund , super specialty hospitals r tied in who provide a discount due to the steady stream of clients/patients

any major surgery like heart surgery kidney transplant etc which costs thousands of dollars r financed through this corpus fund provided the patient is a member of the scheme

a poor family just by making 6 dollars investment every month can avail himself/herself of 25000+ dollars surgery / treatment which is otherwise outside his financial capability

the hallmark of this scheme is collective financing by financially handicapped people for the better good of them all , real power comes from the collective initiate of people irrespective of financial status

after all its the small drops of rains that makes up the huge oceans wink
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by Chartey(m): 4:34pm On Oct 21, 2017
laudate:
Why won't it be a good teaching hospital? huh It is affiliated to a university with a full-fledged college of medicine, which has fully qualified professors of medicine and consultants, in attendance. In fact, I doubt if LUTH (Lagos University Teaching Hospital) which has been in existence for over 50 years, can boast of the number of staff and equipment that ABUAD Teaching hospital currently has within its premises. So what is your point? undecided


The same thing was said when Babcock University opened its own hospital. sad Now, the waiting list is so long, that patients have to book appointment dates for surgery, weeks in advance. Once a good healthcare facility opens, and doctors are able to certify that it is good, the patients would come. All it takes is a referral. undecided We do not have adequate healthcare facilities within the country, so any additional one is welcome. Please pray this initiative succeeds. Do not kill it with your pessimism.....


People will come from outside the state. undecided It is not for people of Ekiti State alone. I have seen patients travel all the way from Delta State to Lagos, just to be able to receive orthopedic treatment. Patients leave Ilorin in Kwara state to come to Lagos, just to receive chemotherapy. cry Patients are referred from Bayelsa to other states, simply because such patients need to access healthcare facilities that are not found within their state. I can give you real life examples. shocked The management of ABUAD just needs to market their medical services to all the NMA Associations in every state of the federation. The problem in Nigeria has always been inadequate medical facilities, and not a lack of patients willing to use those facilities, if they have the right information and adequate funds to do so. sad

All ABUAD Teaching Hospital needs to do, is to establish low-cost affordable hostels and guest houses for patients that come from outside the state and their relatives, so they can have a place to stay whenever they need to go for treatment at the hospital. undecided
You don't get it.
I don't think you know how a teaching hospital really works.
It's not only about quality of service.
When you go to a teaching hospital as a patient, you know that you will definitely be used as a teaching tool. This is compensated for by the quality yet cheap care you get.
In this hospital, care won't be cheap. Will patients who pay lots of money accept being used to teach medical students?
Remember the most important part of the training is by the bed of the patient.
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by sonnie10: 7:07pm On Oct 21, 2017
laudate:
Guy, instead if thrashing their efforts online, why not reach out to ABUAD Teaching Hospital management with your observations, and offer to assist them? sad Or better still, pay a visit to the facility and give them your expert advice? Many teaching hospitals in Nigeria do not even have these 15-year old machines that you are condemning, and many patients rely on older equipment at the general hospitals for diagnosis, and even survival.


Isn't there something called after-sales maintenance programme, anymore? Or isn't training of onsite technicians, part of the deal for buying such specialised equipment? Sometimes, a manufacturer might phase out a certain piece of equipment, but 3rd party companies that have been providing technical support for such machines, might end up developing alternative options, or recycling different spare parts in order to continue offering maintenance of such equipment, in secondary markets. We have seen such things happen in the telecom industry. I don't know if the same thing occurs in the healthcare equipment sector.
The problem is that such venture is not profitable for third party service providers. It's not like auto repairs were you would still have millions driving a car that has been out of manufactures warranty. This is marginal business, only a handful of them within a particular area. The reason those equipment were grounded in the first place is because they were no longer sustainable in term of complying with industrial standard and regulations.

Quality control and management system is a very detail orientated discipline. To meet regulatory standard, periodic inspections are mandated. Naturally, equipment over time, due to wears tears become obsolete .

This is what they would have done. Considering the size of this hospital, the huge investment and the potential for profit making, they ought to have approached an equipment manufacturer. Companies like GE, Phillips, Toshiba, Samsung etc are ever willing to partners with others. They will provide the equipment, and technical support for as long as you are willing to work with them.

The bottom line. Less downturn and more productivity for the hospital. But most importantly patients receive quality, safe and efficient service .
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by laudate: 8:52pm On Oct 21, 2017
Chartey:
You don't get it.
I don't think you know how a teaching hospital really works.
It's not only about quality of service.
When you go to a teaching hospital as a patient, you know that you will definitely be used as a teaching tool. This is compensated for by the quality yet cheap care you get.
In this hospital, care won't be cheap. Will patients who pay lots of money accept being used to teach medical students?
Remember the most important part of the training is by the bed of the patient.
Oga, all sorts of patients can be admitted in a teaching hospital. undecided The high-fee paying ones can have their own section, where their cases will be handled by top notch consultants who will give them VIP treatment, and five-star premium medical care. cheesy Another section can offer basic, affordable, quality care to the masses, who can be clerked by interns and used as teaching aids, by the professors. Nothing spoil. sad Don't underestimate the resilience of many Nigerians, who do not mind travelling for miles to get good quality medical care. In Ondo & Ekiti States, as well as the neighbouring Edo & Kwara states, most teaching hospitals lack adequate facilities to offer quality medical services, that are close to what ABUAD Teaching hospital can provide to the citizens. If the state govts are able to put in place adequate health insurance schemes for their citizens, it would go a long way in helping to offset the medical bills that the patients would incur.
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by laudate:
sonnie10:
The problem is that such venture is not profitable for third party service providers. It's not like auto repairs were you would still have millions driving a car that has been out of manufactures warranty. This is marginal business, only a handful of them within a particular area. The reason those equipment were grounded in the first place is because they were no longer sustainable in term of complying with industrial standard and regulations.

Quality control and management system is a very detail orientated discipline. To meet regulatory standard, periodic inspections are mandated. Naturally, equipment over time, due to wears tears become obsolete .

This is what they would have done. Considering the size of this hospital, the huge investment and the potential for profit making, they ought to have approached an equipment manufacturer. Companies like GE, Phillips, Toshiba, Samsung etc are ever willing to partners with others. They will provide the equipment, and technical support for as long as you are willing to work with them.

The bottom line. Less downturn and more productivity for the hospital. But most importantly patients receive quality, safe and efficient service .
Oga, my earlier response still stands. undecided Reach out to the management of ABUAD Teaching Hospitals, and share your observations directly with them, instead of trashing their efforts online. Most of the OEM manufacturers do not have direct representatives in Nigeria, so don't be surprised if they refer you to someone in South Africa or Egypt, for further information who may not have a clue about how to meet your needs. You cannot speak for GE, Toshiba, Samsung or Phillips in this regard, except you are one of their sales specialists. sad We do not even know if ABUAD ever approached those manufacturers, and they were given steep conditions that could not be met? This is just speculation, though. Anyway, facts are sacred, but opinions are free. Kindly share your observations directly with ABUAD. Good day.
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by Chartey(m): 9:57pm On Oct 21, 2017
laudate:
Oga, all sorts of patients can be admitted in a teaching hospital. undecided The high-fee paying ones can have their own section, where their cases will be handled by top notch consultants who will give them VIP treatment, and five-star premium medical care. cheesy Another section can offer basic, affordable, quality care to the masses, who can be clerked by interns and used as teaching aids, by the professors. Nothing spoil. sad Don't underestimate the resilience of many Nigerians, who do not mind travelling for miles to get good quality medical care. In Ondo & Ekiti States, as well as the neighbouring Edo & Kwara states, most teaching hospitals lack adequate facilities to offer quality medical services, that are close to what ABUAD Teaching hospital can provide to the citizens. If the state govts are able to put in place adequate health insurance schemes for their citizens, it would go a long way in helping to offset the medical bills that the patients would incur.
And that raises very many ethical questions.
Medical care is not straightforward business.
You simply don't understand this thing enough.
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by Demmzy15(m): 12:50am On Oct 22, 2017
laudate:
Does it have a helipad, where patients can be airlifted into the hospital premises by helicopter?? It would be nice if it did, because the roads are so bad and considering the distance, having to airlift a patient into the hospital maybe the best and quickest option for such a patient to get access to healthcare at ABUAD.
Yeah, they've started constructing the helipad
Re: Inside Afe Babalola University Teaching Hospital (Photos) by dotedote: 12:38pm On Aug 24, 2019
Your brain sure needs a factory reset.



sonnie10:
Why do we celebrate mediocrity. Those equipment are as old as dinosaur. Actually they are not less than 15year. These are tokunbo stuff from my junkyard.

What is so special in cleaning up outdated machines which nobody knows is they have be recalibrated.

Nigerians are easily deceived. Somebody should let him know that he could work with manufacturers in procuring new equipment
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