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| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Origamist: 2:04pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:lol @ 2. There was Igbo Federal Union,which was formed before Egbe Omo Oduduwa. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Origamist: 2:09pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:ACB scandal. He was indicted by the Foster-Sutton Tribunal. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 2:13pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Origamist:It was not formed by Zik. Zik was not, and never intended to be, an Igbo leader. He didn't speak Igbo well and may have spoken Yoruba and Hausa better. Igbos claimed him but he never saw himself as belonging to just Igbos. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 2:24pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Origamist:See how contemporary people are talking about Awo's controversies including Yorubas. Who is talking about this? Nobody knows if u just pulled it out of thin air and most importantly NOBODY CARES! |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Origamist: 2:50pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:hehe.Yet he was the pioneering President of the Union? ,Abeeegi!If there was no Igbo Fed. Union,there would not have been Egbe Omo Oduduwa. *ChiefObafemi Awolowo along with Dr.Oni Akerele, ChiefAkintola Williams, Professor Saburi Biobaku, ChiefAbiodun Akinrele, Chief D.O. A Oguntoye, ChiefAyo Rosijiand others, met inLondon.[1]Their stated aim in setting up the organisation was to unite theYorùbá in a manner similar to the tenets of the Ibibio State Unionand theIbo Federal Union; which were political action committees of the Ibibioand the Igbo respectively.* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egbe_Omo_Oduduwa?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3361683956 |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Origamist: 2:57pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:Hypocrites would not talk about it,bro. Ikpako oni ikpako lan ri,e lo miran lon ri teni. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 3:42pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Origamist:I was out. Now I'm back... My man, how dare u try to compare Zik of Africa with Awo of Ibadan when it comes to parochialism and tribalism. Did Zik form or was he involved in forming anything Igbo? Nobody has ever tried to equate Zik with Awo when it comes nationalism. They were not in the same league at all. Not even close. Zik was clearly thinking Africa while Awo was thinking Ibadan. As Unongo rightly said Zik started in US, thinking Africa. While Awo started in UK, thinking Oduduwa. Zik's paper was called "West African Pilot". Awo's paper, Tribune, could easily have been called "Ibadan Pilot". |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 3:59pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Origamist:Say what u will about Awolowo, love him or hate him, one thing u can never say is that the topic of Awo is borring. So my brother, it's just that there is so much there. He is a treasure trove for controversy buffs. Tell me what other Nigerian, including those who fought wars, even comes close. Even his death is controversial. Take Zik for instance. All that's in the PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS is that he led Nigeria to independence. Beyond that the average man will be looking at u like u crazy. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:04pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:No mind them. Whenever u say Awo they say Zik. As if there is any basis for comparison between the two. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 4:08pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:Good sir, as the moderator, I am obliged to inform u that Chief Awolowo was a great man. He was not "nigga". |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:16pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:Great men don't commit suicide. Great men are not corrupt. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 4:21pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:Not true. Great does not necessarily mean good. And I'm not saying Awo was bad. Hitler was a great man. Yet he was corrupt and he commuted suicide. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:22pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:Well, Awo was not Hitler. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 4:23pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:Never said he was. God forbid |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 4:34pm On Oct 21, 2017*. Modified: 4:19pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:So... @ bolded. We are now up to #3 Remember I said: I think most of these things are explainable and I don't think any of them necessarily disqualifies Awo from being a hero, especially to the Yorubas. I'll expatiate in my following posts. I will now continue addressing the points. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ofemannnu: 4:34pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
![]() 9jaDoc:So you want people like this to rule over Yoruba with their chameleon tribalist... NEARLY 50 years ago, it is said, that people in Enugu, Nsukka, Ngwo, and Abakalike had little clothes to cover themselves. In 1947, the District Officer prohibited nude people coming to the Ogbete Market in Enugu. Yet, in 20 short years, the Igbos were the number one traders in textile. The Bonny (Igbani Ijaws) sold slaves and even had a most lucrative empire. One Bonny Chief went to England and bought a steamship fully outfitted with an English captain, officers, and sailors to bring him back to Nigeria. Such business needed trust worthy lieutenants. These the Bonny Chiefs found among the Igbo slaves who became their trusted employees. The “Civil Servant Employees” became trustees. The Igbani Chiefs, however, were not over trusting. They did not want the Igbos to learn their language for fear of being overthrown or appealing directly to their gods. The Igbanis, therefore, decided to learn Igbo to better communicate with their trustees; while keeping Igbani as the royal language to be used only by the Chiefs among themselves. Guardian..source. http://jimidisu.com/the-igbos-and-their-unifying-factors-1-by-patrick-dele-cole/ ![]() 9jaDoc:So you want people like this to rule over Yoruba with their chameleon tribalist... NEARLY 50 years ago, it is said, that people in Enugu, Nsukka, Ngwo, and Abakalike had little clothes to cover themselves. In 1947, the District Officer prohibited nude people coming to the Ogbete Market in Enugu. Yet, in 20 short years, the Igbos were the number one traders in textile. The Bonny (Igbani Ijaws) sold slaves and even had a most lucrative empire. One Bonny Chief went to England and bought a steamship fully outfitted with an English captain, officers, and sailors to bring him back to Nigeria. Such business needed trust worthy lieutenants. These the Bonny Chiefs found among the Igbo slaves who became their trusted employees. The “Civil Servant Employees” became trustees. The Igbani Chiefs, however, were not over trusting. They did not want the Igbos to learn their language for fear of being overthrown or appealing directly to their gods. The Igbanis, therefore, decided to learn Igbo to better communicate with their trustees; while keeping Igbani as the royal language to be used only by the Chiefs among themselves. Guardian..source. http://jimidisu.com/the-igbos-and-their-unifying-factors-1-by-patrick-dele-cole/ |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ovamboland(m): 4:45pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:Awo beat Zik in a contest and drove him out of LAGOS with tears streaming down his face and did you stop u b till he arrived Enugu. Chew that for a start |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by IkpuMmadu: 4:50pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
9jaDoc:Funny analysis....but fact |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:51pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Ofemannnu:Thanks for the history lesson, but u r not telling us anything we don't already know: Igbos are industrious, they dominate the economy where ever they go, and the natives become very jealous. See below. Ahmadu Bello was 49 at this interview in 1960 yet he was already "father of the North". Can someone explain that to me? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSosECbcmM |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by IkpuMmadu: 4:52pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Ofemannnu:And you are quoting that retarded radio presenter Jimi Disi in a serious intellectual discourse....was he even born by then seff Just see your life |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Nobody: 4:54pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Ovamboland:incoherent.. English sir. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ofemannnu: 5:16pm On Oct 21, 2017*. Modified: 5:38pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
IkpuMmadu:lol..It was written by Dr Patrick Dele Cole...OFR..a Rivers State man.. IGBOS WERE/ARE IJAW SLAVES AND ALL NIGERIANS' SLAVES. YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR TRIBE'S SLAVE PEDESTAL AND TRY TO PRODUCE AN IGBO EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT..Some people might change their minds and vote for slaves.. Patrick goes again.... The Ijaws of Bonny adopted the language of their slaves, Igbo and speak Igbo now... https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/nigerians-and-their-origin/ |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ofemannnu: 5:25pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
IkpuMmadu:Funny but real facts.. ![]() IkpuMmadu:BiafraAngitator : Other tribes insult us because they're jealous of our success. We control 90% of the industries in Nigeria We are very intelligent and resourceful Fun fact: We're pigs but our leader is a Cow named Kownu I find great pride in being a P&I, so I made my own profile. Read and enjoy: Kingdom: Animalia Phyllum: Chordata Clade: Synapsida Class: Mammalia Order: 90% Artiodactyla 10% Primates [90% Pigs and 10% Gorillas] Family: Suidae (90%) & Hominidae (10%) Tribe: Gorillini Genus: Sus and Gorilla Habitat: Mud huts and dirty ditches Diet: Soups that look like human shiit. We're also cannibals and we enjoy eating human flesh Relationship with humans: Very anti-social Culture: We have none. We have no idea where our ancestors came from. In fact, we only started wearing clothes in 1921. Lifespan: Our lifespan is usually cut short by executions in Malaysia, China, Indonesia, India, South Africa, Thailand, Vietnam and other countries we have developed. Intelligence: We are low animals with very poor IQ Description: 1. As a pig and idiot myself, I have a large flat head and big nose. 2. We are known to be savages and low-IQ animals. We're also domestic animals who are slaves to Southwesterners and Northerners. 3. Cannibalism is very common among us. Young piglets sometimes go savage and kill their parents. 4. Sometimes it's the other way round - Mothers pigs attack their piglets and devour them raw when frustrated. 5. We are very low on the food chain which leaves us vulnerable to predators. 6. We are known to be cowards and weaklings. I grew up watching my hairy mother beat my father up many times. 7. We're very irresponsible and love blaming others for their shortcomings. 8. Our women are special breeds for prostitution. Its why we occupy 99% of the brothels in other regions. 9. The only god we worship is Money. It's why we engage in Baby factories, rituals, drugs, kidnapping and many other things. 10. Our female Pigs can be identified with hairy chests, yam legs and very horrible mouth odour. 11. We are the dirtiest species walking the surface of this planet. Even God knows this and it's why he blessed us with red mud lands. We love swimming in our mud. 12. Our population is dwindling by the day. Adult male pigs are being killed in different parts of the world everyday. We're on the brink of extinction, please text "Save The Pigs" to 247419 to help us out. 13. We don't know who our ancestors were and we still don't have our own country. In other words, we're pigs of no nation. 14. We're the rejects of everyone. Even Israel disgraced and repudiated us when we claimed to be jews. 15. We're very anti-social towards our hosts and it's why we're the most despicable people on earth. 16. We're parasites who contribute nothing to our host states. We're tax cheats and lowlife criminals. Our survival depends on other regions. 17. We can't survive without our western and northern neighbors. We can't provide for our families without their money. They're very important in our miserable lives. 18. We're known to shiit where we eat. We're ungrateful bastards who can never appreciate favors. 19. We're ingrates and uncultured bastards. 20. We like forceful attaches. We like claiming to be what we're not. Yesterday, we were jews. Today, we're gorillas and pigs. Tomorrow, we'll be worms who evolved from the faeces of Daenerys Targaryen's dragon. Our story changes constantly. 21. Some of us are light-skinned because our yam-legged mothers were riding the dicks of white people when they first visited our lands as missionaries. 22. We discriminate against our fellow pigs even though we're all slaves. 23. We're cowards and weaklings. The only weapons we can wield are our mouth and keyboard. We can never put our words into actions. For example, we threatened Fulani herdsmen but hid in our mud huts like rats when they brought the fight to our doorstep. Thousands of our hairy yam-legged women were killed and raped brutally in Enugu, yet we did nothing. Oh wait, we did something - We ranted on nairaland as usual. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 5:25pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:This one is a no brainer. OF COURSE. Gowon had NOTHING to do with release of Awo from Clabar. Look at body language. Awo contradicted some things Ojukwu said, not once did he contradict him when he said he released him from prison. EDITORIAL Ojukwu Released Awolowo From Calabar Jail. QED Mr. Okonkwo troubled by multiple argument fort and back, pointedly asked Ojukwu. Ojukwu's response was that, he indeed released Awolowo from Calabar Prison house. Hear Ojukwu speak for himself: “We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually. If you remember, I released Awolowo from jail. Even that, some people are beginning to contest as well. Awo was in jail in Calabar. Gowon knows and the whole of the federal establishment knows that at no point was Gowon in charge of the East. The East took orders from me. Now, how could Gowon have released Awolowo who was in Calabar?" |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 6:20pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Ovamboland:Has tribalism driven u completely out of your mind? What is this What the hell r u talking about? |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 6:40pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Ofemannnu:Sir, as moderator, I have to inform u that this thread is about Awo Controversies and we trying to get to the bottom of them. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 7:36pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Origamist:Michael004 see how im just shut ya mouth |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ofemannnu: 7:47pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
SHAKABOOM:Ojuku..you are a slave.. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 7:50pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:What I.don't understand about Awo is, here he was an extremely wealthy old man. Why not just relax and enjoy your money and grandkids. But noooo, he had to go planning a coup. I guess there are people like that. They never consider the possibility of.getting.caught |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Leez(m): 8:06pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Ofemannnu: ![]() we all know d dirty cowardly spineless tribe cant survive without d gambaris n afonjas yet dy are asking for a referendum if i were u d silence of igbo leaders on secession will jolt ur brain but then once a slave always a slave |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 8:10pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
GhanaMustGoo: |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 8:13pm On Oct 21, 2017 |
Leez:I am against secession for personal financial reasons, but do u think it fair that people can't vote on wether they want to stay a part of an organization? |
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