₦airaland Forum

Sangresan, you're focusing on political alliances formed at certain times in the past only. I am not. Considering the geo-poplitical realities of Nigeria, political alliances are inevitable and that is not my grouse. Political alliances are short term tactics. My point is that the overall objectives (long term implications) of past or future political alliances should not aim to "block" the progress of other regions.

Past political alliances by SE and SS politicians, at different times in our political history, with the Muhamedians in the North, did not seek to undermine the economic progress of the SW. However, the laws and policies that the federal government and even the military decided to implement or enforce were intentionally adopted so as to ensure systemic socio-economic discrimination, subjugation, and exclusion of the SE/SS region.

I hold this view because the Yorubas dominated the federal government at a time and they sat at the table where some of today's development-hindering laws and policy positions were introduced and officially adopted by the federal government. The SE/SS region have always been denied the opportunity to contribute to how Nigeria is structured and run; they always sought to be included in the affairs of Nigeria, the reason why cries of marginalization have always come from that part of the country.


Case in Point

First, the blockade of food and medical supplies to the SE during the civil war was implemented by Obafemi Awolowo. If they cared about the children and women of the SE who had no say in Biafra or its declaration by Ojukwu, they would have allowed food to get to them and instead fight the Biafran military men. Why starve the children and women, when those fighting you are men? We see time and again how the U.S. engages in war with the government and military of nations but also provide food to the children and women of those countries they are fighting. But the Yorubas colluded with the Muhamedians to slaughter the vulnerable children and women of the SE. This is one instance in history of the ultimate betrayal by the Yorubas.

Second, the Yorubas are responsible for not allowing any functioning seaport in the SE region (todays SS and SE). The federal government laws and policies that ensure no seaport functions in the SE/SS region were written and championed by the Yorubas. Afterall, what sense would it make for folks from the Northeast and even parts of the Northcentral regions to kick against having seaports in states or regions that are closer to them.

But because the Yorubas are afraid of competition and would rather prevent other southern states from benefiting from the economic advantages of a seaport, they remind you that seaport is the responsibility of the federal government, in which they control, anytime the issue of seaport comes up. Who wrote the federal government laws that the Yorubas a re quick to point to? The Yorubas wrote it! International airports were also not allowed to exist in the SE, before Jonathan's government. Obasanjo confirmed the suspicion that the SE's economy is intentionally depressed by the federal government by openly saying, on different occasions, that Nigeria should not allow any seaport or international airport in the SE/SS region because the Igbos will use it to import arms. How could this be true if the Nigerian Customs and the Nigerian Navy would be on duty manning these ports?

Third, the On-shore/Off-shore oil dichotomy policies and law was championed by the Yorubas/Awolowo. The main objective of that law/policy was to ensure that the hosts communities of where crude oil is found and extracted do not benefit from the proceeds of the crude oil. If the host communities were Yoruba communities Awolowo would not have championed such as draconian and highly disgraceful and unjust law. But they did this because it was the only way monies from the oil would be taken to develop Lagos while the host communities are left with the environmental pollution and a high rate of cancer that characterizes oil communities in SE/SS region.

As one can see, these pattern of strangulating the SE and SS regions economically have consistently been championed or supported by the Yorubas, though surrepticiously. Hiding behind the cloak of federal laws and policies, of which the Muhamedian North is the face of it, the Yorubas have consistently sold out the interest or soul of Southern Nigerian (SW, SE, SS regions) for a meager benefit of the SW region.

I dare to say that the reason why the Yorubas are complaining now or demanding restructuring is because they've also become victims of the federal laws and government policies, which was originally intended to keep the SE region down.

sangresan:
I don't think you know much about Nigeria or you are just being mischievous....How has the SW colluded with the North to subjugate the SS and the SE?

Many of you just come on Nairaland to vomit trash because there is freedom to post anything here.....I remember that Zik and the SE were the first to go into an alliance with the NPC dominated by the conservative Hausas....The SS led by Dappa Biriye and Melford Okilo has always supported the North politically as well...1960-1966,1979-1983,and in this 4th Republic.The only exception has been during the last election when SS expectedly voted for Goodluck....In 1999,while the SW wanted a progressive like Chief Olu False,the SE and the SS voted for a Northern-imposed candidate Obj who never believed in Yoruba Agenda.....You are quick to forget that Tofa of the NRC did so well in many SE and SS states than Abiola.So,when did the SW betray the SS or the SE as you want us to believe?

profmiganigal:
Ask victor banjo how akwa ibom prison is like......
Ask abiola how hearbreak is like.....
My condolences

I understand you its not easy to loose 3000000 people to futile endeavour

seunmsg:
You should be the one to check up your history. From the first, second, third, and the beginning of the current fourth republic, Igbo's have always aligned with the North politically. 2015 was the very first time that the south west aligned with the north.

Have you forgotten the alliance of APP & AD? Northern and Southwestern merger of 1998/99?

If you live in glass houses dont throw stones....

namet:
Sangresan, you're focusing on political alliances formed at certain times in the past only. I am not. Considering the geo-poplitical realities of Nigeria, political alliances are inevitable and that is not my grouse. Political alliances are short term tactics. My point is that the overall objectives (long term implications) of past or future political alliances should not aim to "block" the progress of other regions.

Past political alliances by SE and SS politicians, at different times in our political history, with the Muhamedians in the North, did not seek to undermine the economic progress of the SW. However, the laws and policies that the federal government and even the military decided to implement or enforce were intentionally adopted so as to ensure systemic socio-economic discrimination, subjugation, and exclusion of the SE/SS region.

I hold this view because the Yorubas dominated the federal government at a time and they sat at the table where some of today's development-hindering laws and policy positions were introduced and officially adopted by the federal government. The SE/SS region have always been denied contribution to how Nigeria is structure and run; they always sought to be included in the affairs of Nigeria, the reason why cries of marginalization have always come from that part of the country.


Case in Point

First, the blockade of food and medical supplies to the SE during the civil was implemented by Obafemi Awolowo. If they cared about the children and women of the SE who had no say in Biafra or its declaration by Ojukwu, they would have allowed food to get to them and instead fight the Biafran military men. Why starve the children and women, when those fighting you are men? We see time and again how the U.S. engages in war with the government and military of nations but also provide food to the children and women of those countries they are fighting. But the Yorubas colluded with the Muhamedians to slaughter the vulnerable children and women of the SE. This is one instance in history of the ultimate betrayal by the Yorubas.

Second, the Yorubas are responsible for not allowing any functioning seaport in the SE region (todays SS and SE). The federal government laws and policies that ensure no seaport functions in the SE/SS region were written and championed by the Yorubas. Afterall, what sense would it make for folks from the Northeast and even parts of the Northcentral regions to kick against having seaports in states or regions that are closer to them.

But because the Yorubas are afraid of competition and would rather prevent other southern states from benefiting from the economic advantages of a seaport, they remind you that seaport is the responsibility of the federal government, in which they control, anytime the issue of seaport comes up. Who wrote the federal government laws that the Yorubas a re quick to point to? The Yorubas wrote it! International airports were also not allowed to exist in the SE, before Jonathan's government. Obasanjo confirmed the suspicion that the SE's economy is intentionally depressed by the federal government by openly saying, on different occasions, that Nigeria should not allow any seaport or international airport in the SE/SS region because the Igbos will use it to import arms. How could this be true if the Nigerian Customs and the Nigerian Navy would be on duty manning these ports?

Third, the On-shore/Off-shore oil dichotomy policies and law was championed by the Yorubas/Awolowo. The main objective of that law/policy was to ensure that the hosts communities of where crude oil is found and extracted do not benefit from the proceeds of the crude oil. If the host communities were Yoruba communities Awolowo would not have championed such as draconian and highly disgraceful and unjust law. But they did this because it was the only way monies from the oil would be taken to develop Lagos while the host communities are left with the environmental pollution and a high rate of cancer that characterizes oil communities in SE/SS region.

As one can see, these pattern of strangulating the SE and SS regions economically have consistently been championed or supported by the Yorubas, though surrepticiously. Hiding behind the cloak of federal laws and policies, of which the Muhamedian North is the face of it, the Yorubas have consistently sold out the interest or soul of Southern Nigerian (SW, SE, SS regions) for a meager benefit of the SW region.

I dare to say that the reason why the Yorubas are complaining now or demanding restructuring is because they've also become victims of the federal laws and government policies, which was originally intended to keep the SE region down.

Firstly, I noticed you are a propaganda fool who knows nothing. You are only afraid of the southern unity which may terminate Nigeria & the parasitic north. The Spanish restructuring of 1978 constitution is what gave regions autonomy in Spain till today.

Your fear has been the elders in the South supporting restructuring. The latest being Chief Emeka Anyaoku few days ago speaking about restructuring before 2019 election. Before this, it was Chief Afe Babalola that signed the resolutions at Ibadan, which made me & some other people suspected Pa Ben Nwabueze was involved.

Coming to your lies, firstly, the South South people are not bought or moved by your fabrications , if it is possible for an elder like Pa Edwin Clarke to speak online he would have given you more lectures. GEJ got it very late running after Yoruba Obas before election when he found out the North was against him, but it was late. He knows that was the only solution.

All your complaints about blockage of food after 3 yrs of unending war is to raise sympathy of the South East. Will that bring about the actualisation of Biafra? Mind you, this meeting is not only hosted by Ambode but Co-hosted by by AkwaIbom State Governor. WHO TOLD YOU THE MEETING was convened by Ambode?

The onshore / offshore dichotomy which the South West Governors (Littoral States ) led the battle against FG during Obj is what you claimed was introduced by Awolowo . You are a fool & very dull. Awolowo that was known as a Champion of Regional system will now give a regional resources to FG. Despite Ondo State being the only beneficiary of the oil derivation money, SW was very active leading the battle for the upward review to 13%. In the onshore / offshore dichotomy & 13% derivation battle SE was there but very DOCILE.

You raised the issue of Yoruba preventing construction of Sea ports in SS & SE. Only an intelligent person should speak on matters requiring high intellect & not fools.
If I draw your attention to Global Maritime Issues you cannot understand. GEJ was a president for 6 years he understands better. Pius Anyim was SGF for 4 yrs, he should come & explain how Yorubas prevented the establishment of sea ports in the SE & SS.

So it is the Yorubas that forced Hyundai & Samsung to establish Deep Sea Vessel repair yard & also forced Intel Logistics in Partnership with NPA to establish Deep Sea port projects. No country force cargo ships to designated port except temporarily for emergency or repair purposes.
Ship berths according to the capability of the water channel & the sea port to receive them, more importantly the destination of the cargoes. Tomorrow you will accuse Yorubas of preventing the establishment of International Airport in the SE & SS.


It is now I know why the Northern Elders Forum leader (Tanko Yakasai) has been accusing the Yorubas of being behind Biafra agitations & Resource Control. It is to permanently create disunity in the South.

North has been accusing the Yorubas of being behind Biafra & Resource countrol agitations of East & SS. Mind you, the old northern political elites & their counterpart in the SW have been on the battle for regional autonomy since the military era.


http://nigeriannewsworld.com/2016/07/20/yorubas-are-behind-the-agitation-for-biafra-tanko-yakassai/

https://www.naij.com/993879-yakassai-attacks-unpatriotic-yorubas-for-working-against-the-north-southwest-fire-back-updated.html

http://leaders.ng/restructuring-nigeria-is-useless-yakassai/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/restructuring-nigeria-yoruba-agenda-impracticable-says-yakassai/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/08/restructuring-britains-conspiracy-north-south-ayo-adebanjo/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/restructuring-southwest-troubled-nigeria-since-1953-yakasai/

Basic123:
I understand you its not easy to loose 3000000 people to futile endeavour

Noted......
Is our cross and we are bearing it
Die a slave in the hands of hausa fulani gambaris

oodualover:
[s][/s] Shut your dirty ebowl mouth! You this dirty stinking ebowls thing. Oloripelepe Omo oshi. We don't want southern unity with your cursed tribe. Go and meet your northern masters

Another hausa fulani slave spotted

profmiganigal:
Noted......

Is our cross and we are bearing it

Die a slave in the hands of hausa fulani gambaris

Ha see superslaves.I would rather wish igbo not to die hausa fulani slaves.Ojukwu reaaly disgraced you guys after he contested for ordinary senator under hausa fulani party in 1983 and when Arthur nzeribe was kissng abacha ass then

Your slavery to hausa fulani continue with atiku in 2019 wih your atiku

Basic123:
Ha see superslaves.I would rather wish igbo not to die hausa fulani slaves.Ojukwu reaaly disgraced you guys after he contested for ordinary senator under hausa fulani party in 1983 and when Arthur nzeribe was kissng abacha ass then

Your slavery to hausa fulani continue with atiku in 2019 wih your atiku

Also noted......

The very day yorubas will learn to keep off on igbo issues...till then and until then.......will they start getting their priorities right.......

profmiganigal:
Also noted......

The very day yorubas will learn to keep off on igbo issues...till then and until then.......will they start getting their priorities right.......

They same day ibo keep off on yoruba issues and stop blaming all their problems on yorubas.

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TimeMod1:
SE leaders are the most renowned sellouts. Their alliances with the north as a second fiddle leaves no one in doubt.

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But yet your Yoruba leaders are begging for meetings with them. After seeing all those reports and pix of se/ss govs touring each other's states and havinf meetings, I knew the south west people felt left out and itchy to join

robotix:
The idiot you quoted for this comment is even based in Lagos... according to his comment. Ask him what he is doing in Lagos, why not go to the east?

Why will he go to the east ??
Are we no longer One Nigeria ??

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Lloydfolarin:


Out of all people on earth, Igbos are talking about loyalty when the same morons killed and betrayed all the southern prominent military and politicians in their bloody Igbo coup of 1966.

They even went as far as creating the problem we are all facing today; central government. They solely via their son called Aguiyi Ironsi destroyed our flourishing regional system of government in their quest to steal from other regions. All thanks to our gallant Northern military officers who reciprocated their evil with evil.

The same gluttons-Igbos went ahead again in 1960 to betray the rest of the south by forming a political alliance with the Northern oligarchy in which their sons and daughters dominated our political sphere in between 1960 to 1966.

Tafawa Balewa- Prime minister

Nnamdi Azikiwe-President/deputy prime minister

Osadabey-Senate President

Nwafor-Senate President

Wachukwu-Foreign minister

Okwapara-Eastern region premier(Why not Calabar, Ijaw man or others minor tribes)

Above is our first government after independence.

In 1966, Igbo greediness destroyed Nigeria till date.

The 2nd republic came and guess what, Igbos formed another political alliance with the same North that killed them mercilessly few years prior to the election. And Igbos betrayed the rest of the South in 1970 to formed the government in which Alex Ekwueme became the Vice President.

Don’t start what you can’t finish mate.

Igbos define Cowardice and Betrayal in their finest. The examples of betrayals is self-revealing in Nigeria historic facts.

Cowardice: The only two people who had ever fought on your behalf as a tribe took to their heels as soon as they hear the sound of military men.

Igbos’ cowardice is legendary and the examples are not far fetched; Ojukwu absconded as soon as the war got to his doorsteps.

The little rat called Nnamdi Kanu is no where to be found till date.

Yorubas you fools called cowards have fought so many wars before the name of Igbo was carved out.

In recent memory, Abiola, Wole Soyinka, Fela, Olufunmilayo ransom kuti, Abiola wife and Tinubu have all fought against military powers which informed the reason why Nigeria has to give presidency to the Yorubas in 1999.

Nigeria as country would have gone to oblivion if presidency was not given to Yorubas in 1999. It’s all our might.

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How will Nigeria move forward if you keep dwelling on the past

IfeanyiYagazie:
Boss, 'months' might be right after all, why didn't Tinubu call for the southern meeting when he was aligning to form APC ? Why must it be now when his company is under investigation and been relegated to the background in the party he founded? Boss, this meeting is suspicious. I perceive an Ulterior motive here seeing that Southwest governors were Absent in the jhux concluded APC meeting.



All the same. The governors should follow their hearts.

Remember the se/ss govs had meetings, visitations, a vigil, etc with inviting the sw govs. They felt 'long throat' and left out and wanna join the party

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oodualover:
You forgot to mention 1992. Ibos were behind abiola's arrest.
You don't know how terrible these people are.
They wish Yoruba evil all the time.
It has been like this for decades .
Yoruba will not form southern unity with them.

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A Hausa dictator sent another house assassin to kill kudirat abiola and you're here busy shouting Igbo Igbo. I think the fear every yotuba man - from their govs to a beggar in the street is astounding. They do the most devastating things to you and never for once have you been able to confront them

Amarabae:
you are a northerner, sorry we cant fall for this your dividing tactics, the south is getting united.

Eagle eyes you've got.

IfeanyiYagazie:
BETRAYAL IS WHEN UR FELLOW SOUTHERNER IS IN POWER BUT U GO THRU THE BACKDOOR TO OUST HIM FROM POWER.

OBJ A FELLOW SOUTHERNER WAS IN POWER FOR EIGHT( YEARS BUT I DIDN'T SEE WERE SS/SE GO THRU THE BACKDOOR TO FORM AN ALLIANCE THAT WILL OUST HIM FROM POWER, THAT'S LOYALTY ON THE SS/SE PART BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO GOOD LUCK JONATHAN A FELLOW SOUTHERNER?? I GUEST Y'ALL KNOW THE FULL STORY.


LESSON :
NEVER SELL UR BROTHER FOR CRUMBS COS HE'S THE ONLY PERSON UR CAN TRUST AND FALL BACK TO.

YOU IGBO ARE PATHETIC.

WHAT DO WE CALL IGBO VOTE AGAINST ABIOLA?

WHAT DO WE CALL IGBO VOTE AGAINST AWOLOWO?

WHAT DO WE CALL IGBO CAMPAIGN FOR ABACHA CHAMPIONED BY ARTHUR NZERIBE?

WHAT WILL YOU EVEN CALL YORUBA VOTE FOR GEJ AND AGAINST BUHARI IN 2011 and when yorubas were marginalized after that what was your responses?

POOR LOOSERS.

WELL,AT LEAST YOU'VE DECIDED TO CONTINUE YOUR SLAERY TO THE HAUSA FULANI LIKE YOU DID IN 1959,1979,1983,1993,1993-1998, through ATIKU!

SO,BEST OF LUCK.

namet:
Sangresan, you're focusing on political alliances formed at certain times in the past only. I am not. Considering the geo-poplitical realities of Nigeria, political alliances are inevitable and that is not my grouse. Political alliances are short term tactics. My point is that the overall objectives (long term implications) of past or future political alliances should not aim to "block" the progress of other regions.

Past political alliances by SE and SS politicians, at different times in our political history, with the Muhamedians in the North, did not seek to undermine the economic progress of the SW. However, the laws and policies that the federal government and even the military decided to implement or enforce were intentionally adopted so as to ensure systemic socio-economic discrimination, subjugation, and exclusion of the SE/SS region.

I hold this view because the Yorubas dominated the federal government at a time and they sat at the table where some of today's development-hindering laws and policy positions were introduced and officially adopted by the federal government. The SE/SS region have always been denied contribution to how Nigeria is structure and run; they always sought to be included in the affairs of Nigeria, the reason why cries of marginalization have always come from that part of the country.


Case in Point

First, the blockade of food and medical supplies to the SE during the civil war was implemented by Obafemi Awolowo. If they cared about the children and women of the SE who had no say in Biafra or its declaration by Ojukwu, they would have allowed food to get to them and instead fight the Biafran military men. Why starve the children and women, when those fighting you are men? We see time and again how the U.S. engages in war with the government and military of nations but also provide food to the children and women of those countries they are fighting. But the Yorubas colluded with the Muhamedians to slaughter the vulnerable children and women of the SE. This is one instance in history of the ultimate betrayal by the Yorubas.

Second, the Yorubas are responsible for not allowing any functioning seaport in the SE region (todays SS and SE). The federal government laws and policies that ensure no seaport functions in the SE/SS region were written and championed by the Yorubas. Afterall, what sense would it make for folks from the Northeast and even parts of the Northcentral regions to kick against having seaports in states or regions that are closer to them.

But because the Yorubas are afraid of competition and would rather prevent other southern states from benefiting from the economic advantages of a seaport, they remind you that seaport is the responsibility of the federal government, in which they control, anytime the issue of seaport comes up. Who wrote the federal government laws that the Yorubas a re quick to point to? The Yorubas wrote it! International airports were also not allowed to exist in the SE, before Jonathan's government. Obasanjo confirmed the suspicion that the SE's economy is intentionally depressed by the federal government by openly saying, on different occasions, that Nigeria should not allow any seaport or international airport in the SE/SS region because the Igbos will use it to import arms. How could this be true if the Nigerian Customs and the Nigerian Navy would be on duty manning these ports?

Third, the On-shore/Off-shore oil dichotomy policies and law was championed by the Yorubas/Awolowo. The main objective of that law/policy was to ensure that the hosts communities of where crude oil is found and extracted do not benefit from the proceeds of the crude oil. If the host communities were Yoruba communities Awolowo would not have championed such as draconian and highly disgraceful and unjust law. But they did this because it was the only way monies from the oil would be taken to develop Lagos while the host communities are left with the environmental pollution and a high rate of cancer that characterizes oil communities in SE/SS region.

As one can see, these pattern of strangulating the SE and SS regions economically have consistently been championed or supported by the Yorubas, though surrepticiously. Hiding behind the cloak of federal laws and policies, of which the Muhamedian North is the face of it, the Yorubas have consistently sold out the interest or soul of Southern Nigerian (SW, SE, SS regions) for a meager benefit of the SW region.

I dare to say that the reason why the Yorubas are complaining now or demanding restructuring is because they've also become victims of the federal laws and government policies, which was originally intended to keep the SE region down.

I am amazed that you could sit down to pen these half-truths and outright lies...You couldn't even support your hypothesis with a veritable link....Obj that you talked about was and remain pro-North...He had so many Igbos and Hausas in his cabinet...I don't remember seeing Obj associating with Yoruba Agenda...His Finance Minister was Okonjo Iweala.

You didn't address my points about North/SE/SS political alliances but rather want us to believe your spurious claim that the Yorubas have always colluded with the North against the SS/SE....You forget so soon that while run-away Igbos in the Western Region especially had all their abandoned properties returned to them with the rents paid after the Biafra War ,the people of the SS in PH didn't treat them with the same respect.Till date,the abandoned properties in Port Harcourt weren't returned to the returning Igbos.The Sir Louis Ojukwu Estates in Lagos were duly returned.His grandchildren can confirm this.Dr Ekwueme is still alive to confirm about his own case ditto numerous Igbos in Yoruba land.

It may also interest you to know that though Awo and others were part of the Nigerian War cabinet, many Yorubas also suffered for their support or association with Igbos during the war.Our people told me of numerous town-level contributions in Yorubaland especially in hitherto NCNC dominated areas to alleviate the suffering of the Igbos.Aside that,Wole Soyinka is a prominent Yoruba who was clamped into prison for supporting Biafra.The records are there....

Again,I don't think the Yoruba have ever opposed development of seaports in the SS/SE...Right from Independence,the Zik-led NCNC were having the majority at the Federal level....How could he have allowed the marginalization of Igbos or the SS?Most of the outstanding federal policy makers of the era were Igbos as well.After 1966,Ironsi abolished regionalism.Gowon took over from there.Awo was part of the regime and so were many others.In 1979,the SS voted for Hausa-led NPN.While Awo's UPN preferred to be in the opposition,Zik entered into an alliance with NPN to produce the leaders of the National Assembly from his party.Dr Ekwueme was the vice president.After that,we had a succession of military coups...Yoruba were never in control.So,how could they have been behind the subjugation of seaports in the SS/SE...Even if your theory is correct,why wasn't it reversed by the SS/SE govt of Goodluck Jonathan?...Please,don't just come here to push unfounded postulations...Research and ask questions about issues before coming onto the cyberspace to argue about them.Thanks.

namet:
Sangresan, you're focusing on political alliances formed at certain times in the past only. I am not. Considering the geo-poplitical realities of Nigeria, political alliances are inevitable and that is not my grouse. Political alliances are short term tactics. My point is that the overall objectives (long term implications) of past or future political alliances should not aim to "block" the progress of other regions.

Past political alliances by SE and SS politicians, at different times in our political history, with the Muhamedians in the North, did not seek to undermine the economic progress of the SW. However, the laws and policies that the federal government and even the military decided to implement or enforce were intentionally adopted so as to ensure systemic socio-economic discrimination, subjugation, and exclusion of the SE/SS region.

I hold this view because the Yorubas dominated the federal government at a time and they sat at the table where some of today's development-hindering laws and policy positions were introduced and officially adopted by the federal government. The SE/SS region have always been denied contribution to how Nigeria is structure and run; they always sought to be included in the affairs of Nigeria, the reason why cries of marginalization have always come from that part of the country.


Case in Point

First, the blockade of food and medical supplies to the SE during the civil war was implemented by Obafemi Awolowo. If they cared about the children and women of the SE who had no say in Biafra or its declaration by Ojukwu, they would have allowed food to get to them and instead fight the Biafran military men. Why starve the children and women, when those fighting you are men? We see time and again how the U.S. engages in war with the government and military of nations but also provide food to the children and women of those countries they are fighting. But the Yorubas colluded with the Muhamedians to slaughter the vulnerable children and women of the SE. This is one instance in history of the ultimate betrayal by the Yorubas.

Second, the Yorubas are responsible for not allowing any functioning seaport in the SE region (todays SS and SE). The federal government laws and policies that ensure no seaport functions in the SE/SS region were written and championed by the Yorubas. Afterall, what sense would it make for folks from the Northeast and even parts of the Northcentral regions to kick against having seaports in states or regions that are closer to them.

But because the Yorubas are afraid of competition and would rather prevent other southern states from benefiting from the economic advantages of a seaport, they remind you that seaport is the responsibility of the federal government, in which they control, anytime the issue of seaport comes up. Who wrote the federal government laws that the Yorubas a re quick to point to? The Yorubas wrote it! International airports were also not allowed to exist in the SE, before Jonathan's government. Obasanjo confirmed the suspicion that the SE's economy is intentionally depressed by the federal government by openly saying, on different occasions, that Nigeria should not allow any seaport or international airport in the SE/SS region because the Igbos will use it to import arms. How could this be true if the Nigerian Customs and the Nigerian Navy would be on duty manning these ports?

Third, the On-shore/Off-shore oil dichotomy policies and law was championed by the Yorubas/Awolowo. The main objective of that law/policy was to ensure that the hosts communities of where crude oil is found and extracted do not benefit from the proceeds of the crude oil. If the host communities were Yoruba communities Awolowo would not have championed such as draconian and highly disgraceful and unjust law. But they did this because it was the only way monies from the oil would be taken to develop Lagos while the host communities are left with the environmental pollution and a high rate of cancer that characterizes oil communities in SE/SS region.

As one can see, these pattern of strangulating the SE and SS regions economically have consistently been championed or supported by the Yorubas, though surrepticiously. Hiding behind the cloak of federal laws and policies, of which the Muhamedian North is the face of it, the Yorubas have consistently sold out the interest or soul of Southern Nigerian (SW, SE, SS regions) for a meager benefit of the SW region.

I dare to say that the reason why the Yorubas are complaining now or demanding restructuring is because they've also become victims of the federal laws and government policies, which was originally intended to keep the SE region down.

Is there any igbo problems That igbo has not blamed on yorubas.

But its so unintelligent of them that GEJ,ngozi okonjo iwealla,stella oduah,emefiele,anyim pius anyim etc couldn't correct the perceived injustice for a good 6yrs.


By the way,you will be complaining that yorubas orchestrated the plan to underdevelop you and still come back to chest beat that you're more developed than us.Hate fuelled Master,victim and slavery mentality at the same time !

namet:
Sangresan, you're focusing on political alliances formed at certain times in the past only. I am not. Considering the geo-poplitical realities of Nigeria, political alliances are inevitable and that is not my grouse. Political alliances are short term tactics. My point is that the overall objectives (long term implications) of past or future political alliances should not aim to "block" the progress of other regions.

Past political alliances by SE and SS politicians, at different times in our political history, with the Muhamedians in the North, did not seek to undermine the economic progress of the SW. However, the laws and policies that the federal government and even the military decided to implement or enforce were intentionally adopted so as to ensure systemic socio-economic discrimination, subjugation, and exclusion of the SE/SS region.

I hold this view because the Yorubas dominated the federal government at a time and they sat at the table where some of today's development-hindering laws and policy positions were introduced and officially adopted by the federal government. The SE/SS region have always been denied contribution to how Nigeria is structure and run; they always sought to be included in the affairs of Nigeria, the reason why cries of marginalization have always come from that part of the country.


Case in Point

First, the blockade of food and medical supplies to the SE during the civil war was implemented by Obafemi Awolowo. If they cared about the children and women of the SE who had no say in Biafra or its declaration by Ojukwu, they would have allowed food to get to them and instead fight the Biafran military men. Why starve the children and women, when those fighting you are men? We see time and again how the U.S. engages in war with the government and military of nations but also provide food to the children and women of those countries they are fighting. But the Yorubas colluded with the Muhamedians to slaughter the vulnerable children and women of the SE. This is one instance in history of the ultimate betrayal by the Yorubas.

Second, the Yorubas are responsible for not allowing any functioning seaport in the SE region (todays SS and SE). The federal government laws and policies that ensure no seaport functions in the SE/SS region were written and championed by the Yorubas. Afterall, what sense would it make for folks from the Northeast and even parts of the Northcentral regions to kick against having seaports in states or regions that are closer to them.

But because the Yorubas are afraid of competition and would rather prevent other southern states from benefiting from the economic advantages of a seaport, they remind you that seaport is the responsibility of the federal government, in which they control, anytime the issue of seaport comes up. Who wrote the federal government laws that the Yorubas a re quick to point to? The Yorubas wrote it! International airports were also not allowed to exist in the SE, before Jonathan's government. Obasanjo confirmed the suspicion that the SE's economy is intentionally depressed by the federal government by openly saying, on different occasions, that Nigeria should not allow any seaport or international airport in the SE/SS region because the Igbos will use it to import arms. How could this be true if the Nigerian Customs and the Nigerian Navy would be on duty manning these ports?

Third, the On-shore/Off-shore oil dichotomy policies and law was championed by the Yorubas/Awolowo. The main objective of that law/policy was to ensure that the hosts communities of where crude oil is found and extracted do not benefit from the proceeds of the crude oil. If the host communities were Yoruba communities Awolowo would not have championed such as draconian and highly disgraceful and unjust law. But they did this because it was the only way monies from the oil would be taken to develop Lagos while the host communities are left with the environmental pollution and a high rate of cancer that characterizes oil communities in SE/SS region.

As one can see, these pattern of strangulating the SE and SS regions economically have consistently been championed or supported by the Yorubas, though surrepticiously. Hiding behind the cloak of federal laws and policies, of which the Muhamedian North is the face of it, the Yorubas have consistently sold out the interest or soul of Southern Nigerian (SW, SE, SS regions) for a meager benefit of the SW region.

I dare to say that the reason why the Yorubas are complaining now or demanding restructuring is because they've also become victims of the federal laws and government policies, which was originally intended to keep the SE region down.

[/quote]I am amazed that you could sit down to pen these half-truths and outright lies...You couldn't even support your hypothesis with a veritable link....Obj that you talked about was and remain pro-North...He had so many Igbos and Hausas in his cabinet...I don't remember seeing Obj associating with Yoruba Agenda...His Finance Minister was Okonjo Iweala.

sangresan:
I am amazed that you could sit down to pen these half-truths and outright lies...You couldn't even support your hypothesis with a veritable link....Obj that you talked about was and remain pro-North...He had so many Igbos and Hausas in his cabinet...I don't remember seeing Obj associating with Yoruba Agenda...His Finance Minister was Okonjo Iweala.

Dont mind those igbo they way the sound very illogical with their hate,lies and tribalism is amazing!

cry cry baby tribe!

You didn't address my points about North/SE/SS political alliances but rather want us to believe your spurious claim that the Yorubas have always colluded with the North against the SS/SE....You forget so soon that while run-away Igbos in the Western Region especially had all their abandoned properties returned to them with the rents paid after the Biafra War ,the people of the SS in PH didn't treat them with the same respect.Till date,the abandoned properties in Port Harcourt weren't returned to the returning Igbos.The Sir Louis Ojukwu Estates in Lagos were duly returned.His grandchildren can confirm this.Dr Ekwueme is still alive to confirm about his own case ditto numerous Igbos in Yoruba land.

It may also interest you to know that though Awo and others were part of the Nigerian War cabinet, many Yorubas also suffered for their support or association with Igbos during the war.Our people told me of numerous town-level contributions in Yorubaland especially in hitherto NCNC dominated areas to alleviate the suffering of the Igbos.Aside that,Wole Soyinka is a prominent Yoruba who was clamped into prison for supporting Biafra.The records are there....

Again,I don't think the Yoruba have ever opposed development of seaports in the SS/SE...Right from Independence,the Zik-led NCNC were having the majority at the Federal level....How could he have allowed the marginalization of Igbos or the SS?Most of the outstanding federal policy makers of the era were Igbos as well.After 1966,Ironsi abolished regionalism.Gowon took over from there.Awo was part of the regime and so were many others.In 1979,the SS voted for Hausa-led NPN.While Awo's UPN preferred to be in the opposition,Zik entered into an alliance with NPN to produce the leaders of the National Assembly from his party.Dr Ekwueme was the vice president.After that,we had a succession of military coups...Yoruba were never in control.So,how could they have been behind the subjugation of seaports in the SS/SE...Even if your theory is correct,why wasn't it reversed by the SS/SE govt of Goodluck Jonathan?...Please,don't just come here to push unfounded postulations...Research and ask questions about issues before coming onto the cyberspace to argue about them.Thanks.

Once again,the Yoruba have always been at the fore front of the call for self-determination and fiscal federalism...There is no way they can be opposed to developments in the SS/SE....Yoruba activists like Gani Fawehimi were part of the Niger Deltan struggle.Thanks.

babaolofin:
Firstly, I noticed you are a propaganda fool who knows nothing. You are only afraid of the southern unity which may terminate Nigeria & the parasitic north. The Spanish restructuring of 1978 constitution is what gave regions autonomy in Spain till today.

Your fear has been the elders in the South supporting restructuring. The latest being Chief Emeka Anyaoku few days ago speaking about restructuring before 2019 election. Before this, it was Chief Afe Babalola that signed the resolutions at Ibadan, which made me & some other people suspected Pa Ben Nwabueze was involved.

Coming to your lies, firstly, the South South people are not bought or moved by your fabrications , if it is possible for an elder like Pa Edwin Clarke to speak online he would have given you more lectures. GEJ got it very late running after Yoruba Obas before election when he found out the North was against him, but it was late. He knows that was the only solution.

All your complaints about blockage of food after 3 yrs of unending war is to raise sympathy of the South East. Will that bring about the actualisation of Biafra? Mind you, this meeting is not only hosted by Ambode but Co-hosted by by AkwaIbom State Governor. WHO TOLD YOU THE MEETING was convened by Ambode?

The onshore / offshore dichotomy which the South West Governors (Littoral States ) led the battle against FG during Obj is what you claimed was introduced by Awolowo . You are a fool & very dull. Awolowo that was known as a Champion of Regional system will now give a regional resources to FG. Despite Ondo State being the only beneficiary of the oil derivation money, SW was very active leading the battle for the upward review to 13%. In the onshore / offshore dichotomy & 13% derivation battle SE was there but very DOCILE.

You raised the issue of Yoruba preventing construction of Sea ports in SS & SE. Only an intelligent person should speak on matters requiring high intellect & not fools.
If I draw your attention to Global Maritime Issues you cannot understand. GEJ was a president for 6 years he understands better. Pius Anyim was SGF for 4 yrs, he should come & explain how Yorubas prevented the establishment of sea ports in the SE & SS.

So it is the Yorubas that forced Hyundai & Samsung to establish Deep Sea Vessel repair yard & also forced Intel Logistics in Partnership with NPA to establish Deep Sea port projects. No country force cargo ships to designated port except temporarily for emergency or repair purposes.
Ship berths according to the capability of the water channel & the sea port to receive them, more importantly the destination of the cargoes. Tomorrow you will accuse Yorubas of preventing the establishment of International Airport in the SE & SS.


It is now I know why the Northern Elders Forum leader (Tanko Yakasai) has been accusing the Yorubas of being behind Biafra agitations & Resource Control. It is to permanently create disunity in the South.

North has been accusing the Yorubas of being behind Biafra & Resource countrol agitations of East & SS. Mind you, the old northern political elites & their counterpart in the SW have been on the battle for regional autonomy since the military era.


http://nigeriannewsworld.com/2016/07/20/yorubas-are-behind-the-agitation-for-biafra-tanko-yakassai/

https://www.naij.com/993879-yakassai-attacks-unpatriotic-yorubas-for-working-against-the-north-southwest-fire-back-updated.html

http://leaders.ng/restructuring-nigeria-is-useless-yakassai/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/restructuring-nigeria-yoruba-agenda-impracticable-says-yakassai/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/08/restructuring-britains-conspiracy-north-south-ayo-adebanjo/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/restructuring-southwest-troubled-nigeria-since-1953-yakasai/

Igbo people can lie!

timsTNA:
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But yet your Yoruba leaders are begging for meetings with them. After seeing all those reports and pix of se/ss govs touring each other's states and havinf meetings, I knew the south west people felt left out and itchy to join

Igbo and poor logic

Ambode should be the one to go and meet them if indeed he is the one begging.But na you SS/SE are coming to meet him in lagos na

Abi which kind people with a strange grandiose delusion be this?

timsTNA:
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How will Nigeria move forward if you keep dwelling on the past

Is there a tribe in Nigeria that dwelled on the past than Igbo?...a distorted past at that

Igbo loves to accuse people of what they are ore guilty of

The way Igbo distort a well known history after 2015 election loss is pathetic!


kudos to sangresan on the knowledge and evidence based refutations!


Igbo,the notorious hausa/fulani ass lickers and slaves suddenly became crusaders of southern unity due to GEJ 2015 election loss!..poor loosers!

They can't hide their hausa fulani ass licking and slavering spirit,no wonder their new game plan is to make hausa fulani man Atiku the president in 2019.like nnamdi azikwe did for tafawa balewa against awolowo,alex ekwueme and ojukwu did for shagari against awolowo again,chuba okafigbo and co did for Tofa against abiola,Arthur nzeribe did for Abacha against Abiola again

sangresan:
I am amazed that you could sit down to pen these half-truths and outright lies...You couldn't even support your hypothesis with a veritable link....Obj that you talked about was and remain pro-North...He had so many Igbos and Hausas in his cabinet...I don't remember seeing Obj associating with Yoruba Agenda...His Finance Minister was Okonjo Iweala.

You didn't address my points about North/SE/SS political alliances but rather want us to believe your spurious claim that the Yorubas have always colluded with the North against the SS/SE....You forget so soon that while run-away Igbos in the Western Region especially had all their abandoned properties returned to them with the rents paid after the Biafra War ,the people of the SS in PH didn't treat them with the same respect.Till date,the abandoned properties in Port Harcourt weren't returned to the returning Igbos.The Sir Louis Ojukwu Estates in Lagos were duly returned.His grandchildren can confirm this.Dr Ekwueme is still alive to confirm about his own case ditto numerous Igbos in Yoruba land.

It may also interest you to know that though Awo and others were part of the Nigerian War cabinet, many Yorubas also suffered for their support or association with Igbos during the war.Our people told me of numerous town-level contributions in Yorubaland especially in hitherto NCNC dominated areas to alleviate the suffering of the Igbos.Aside that,Wole Soyinka is a prominent Yoruba who was clamped into prison for supporting Biafra.The records are there....

Again,I don't think the Yoruba have ever opposed development of seaports in the SS/SE...Right from Independence,the Zik-led NCNC were having the majority at the Federal level....How could he have allowed the marginalization of Igbos or the SS?Most of the outstanding federal policy makers of the era were Igbos as well.After 1966,Ironsi abolished regionalism.Gowon took over from there.Awo was part of the regime and so were many others.In 1979,the SS voted for Hausa-led NPN.While Awo's UPN preferred to be in the opposition,Zik entered into an alliance with NPN to produce the leaders of the National Assembly from his party.Dr Ekwueme was the vice president.After that,we had a succession of military coups...Yoruba were never in control.So,how could they have been behind the subjugation of seaports in the SS/SE...Even if your theory is correct,why wasn't it reversed by the SS/SE govt of Goodluck Jonathan?...Please,don't just come here to push unfounded postulations...Research and ask questions about issues before coming onto the cyberspace to argue about them.Thanks.

I am very sorry to come out with this observation, despite the fact that I attended an institution in the East, it seems the highly intelligent easterners are not the ones posting online on national issues. I have highly intelligent, exposed & urbane gentlemen as friends at Alaba, Ariara & Osha Main Market, but some of these people on postings here you wonder if they ever passed through schools or they are just crude traders with their reasoning.

AkupeMBANO:
I think this is the best move of all these southern governors since time immemorial. if these northern governors can always come up together to address issues that will favour the north, why can't the south do so? after all Nigeria is divided into north and south. the so much disunity withing the southern hemisphere here remains the number one reason why these normadic cattle rearers keep on riding on us.

tinubu just discovered that the northern romance didn't favour him. did he just make a U turn? LMAO! if he did, that's a smart one though.

I finally advice Afonja Muslims to stop allowing these Burukutu sipping clowns to continuously deceive them with religion. south let's come together even on Nairaland sef. I want to promise i won't mention Afonja here on Nairaland after that meeting. but for now, Afonjas and great igbos And itsekiris Abi Wetin sef, let's all come together.

Tinubu this Tinubu that, Tinubu is the reason PDP could not put her house in other.
Abeg buy a brain if you no get, or borrow some ok?.

seunmsg:
You should be the one to check up your history. From the first, second, third, and the beginning of the current fourth republic, Igbo's have always aligned with the North politically. 2015 was the very first time that the south west aligned with the north.

I NEVER knew how UNINFORMED the S/Easterners were until I came to Nairaland.

months:
U SEE THE WAY, WE TAKE RUN FOR UNA, GIVE UNA LONG DISTANCE, DEY USE LONG SPOON FOLLOW UNA.

THINGS HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER FOR US.

HOWEVER, U KEEP PURSUING US, Y IS STAYING ON YOUR OWN SUCH A BIG PROBLEM?

U HAVE YOUR NORTHERN BROTHERS, ABI U WANT TO BETRAY DEM, OR U HAVE ALREADY BETRAYED DEM?

Another junkie, you abandoned your hamlets for SW and still accused the S/Westerners of pursuing you.
Are you sure you are not a robot programmed to post rubbish?.

babaolofin:
I am very sorry to come out with this observation, despite the fact that I attended an institution in the East, it seems the highly intelligent easterners are not the ones posting online on national issues. I have highly intelligent, exposed & urbane gentlemen as friends at Alaba, Ariara & Osha Main Market, but some of these people on postings here you wonder if they ever passed through schools or they are just crude traders with their reasoning.

Kkkkkkkkkk chai.