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| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:54am On Oct 25, 2017*. Modified: 6:15am On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:It is beyond obvious that OJUKWU WAS NOT INTERESTED IN RULING THE WEST. HIS CONCERN WAS THE SUCCESS OF HIS OWN TENUOUS SECESSION. If u can't even see that then what's the point of further discussion |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 6:11am On Oct 25, 2017*. Modified: 6:49am On Oct 25, 2017 |
VillageWinch: WetinConsignMe:So why was Ojukwu telling Awo not to go? 9jaDoc:Ok, so why was Ojukwu suddenly calling Awo Atilo's father? You guys are not making any sense |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 6:18am On Oct 25, 2017*. Modified: 6:48am On Oct 25, 2017 |
9jaDoc:But that Abacha coup accusation.of.Obasanjo dey as e be. E dey like say na frame up |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 6:57am On Oct 25, 2017 |
Vivere:Fine.but neither did Awo tell them he'd.be at the fore front of the fight against their secession |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 7:39am On Oct 25, 2017 |
9jaDoc:Just curiois, what can these personal.financial reasons be. What kinds of things r we talking aboit? |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 8:10am On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:Kanu is 50 and they call him small boy. Ojukwu was 32! Young enough to be Kanu's son. I believe the nigga when he told Aluko he simply wanted to walk away from the whole affair TALKLESS OF RULLING THE WEST!! |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 9:06am On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:This is so funny, comparing a 32 year old boy with a grandfatherly figure he adored and called a hero. Unbelievable what a jaundiced eye can see. We have now seen the letter u been touting. Proves the opposite of your claims |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Vivere: 10:33am On Oct 25, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:You keep repeating the same incoherent crap. Was any region forced out? Tell us, first. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Vivere: 10:36am On Oct 25, 2017 |
GhanaMustGoo:Oh, so you have shifted the goal post to what Awo did NOT tell the Igbo. How pathetic. So you expected Awo to take permission from the Igbo before taking any action, right? You must be a joker. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Vivere: 10:37am On Oct 25, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:It is the Igbo that make the greatest noise about Awo and Biafra. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Vivere: 10:39am On Oct 25, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:Your comments sound more and more moronic, by the hour. Were the Igbo allowed to secede? Or don't you know what the word 'allowed', means? Awo never used the word 'announced' in any of his comments, so stop lying. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Vivere: 10:41am On Oct 25, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:Your analysis is flawed, inaccurate, and laced with deception. Everyone can see through your tricks and deceit. It has been repeated over and over on this thread: The East was not allowed to secede. When are you going to grasp this simple truth?! |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 12:24pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
koladebrainiac:I hear ya my brother, I hear ya. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by orisa37: 12:46pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
They are NOT controversies. They are NATIONAL DECISIONS of a Patriotic Leader and they are all justifiable!!! |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by T9ksy(m): 1:21pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
9jaDoc:I wholesomely concur with you if after reading the quote below: (vii) During the period of Biafrans troops’ presence in your territory, all political measures, statements or decrees shall be subject to the approval, in writing by myself or on my authority....it still remains "beyond obvious (to you and your ilk) that Ojukwu was not interested in ruling the west", then there's no point to this discourse. Let's at least, just agree to disagree. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by T9ksy(m): 1:42pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:The bolded above is just your flippin' opinion which counts for nothing as far as we whom Awo took his decision on her behalf are concerned. We will forever be grateful to the sage for not turning our region into monuments simply because of a discord between former bedmates (North and East). I leave this asinine thread with a quote from the sage to Ojukwu (at their meeting in enugu)........... You are remote from the West; you have advantages which we do not possess. We cannot rush without rushing to our death at the same time. We are not cowards in the West but we have to move cautiously, because if we do not do that you might not have us alive; you would only have monuments all over the place. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 4:47pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
Vivere:It's not me writing this is. It was written by Americans during the war. It was everybody's perception of what Awo said including the media, the man on the streets, AG activists, and even foreign governments. They all took it that Awo meant "If Biafra was forced to ANNOUNCE secession the West would automatically become independent". Everybody ignored the "allowed" they also ignored he said actual secession not just announcement of it. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 4:53pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:Ojukwu saw that as the only way his succession would work he was not trying to do the West a favor. The way he saw it if the West did not secede then his own secession would not succeed - and he was right. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 5:07pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:Of course Ojukwu was no fool. He knew Banjo was nobody's yes man and would do what ever he wanted once he got to the West, so he knew all this was rhetorics and it turned out he was right - turned out Banjo was never for anybody's secession in the first place (as he actually tried to convince Ojukwu). He was always for one Nigeria and he was looking out for his own interests not Ojukwu's or anybody else's. Yoruba and Banjo would have their own army so how can u occupy them. In short Ojukwu wanted the West secession to succeed so his own will also succeed |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 5:19pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
[size=8pt][/size]6 T9ksy:At the bolded. Ojukwu's hope was that his friend (as he thought) Awo and Banjo backed by the troops would CONVINCE the West to secede |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 5:31pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:At the bolded. That was a Ojukwu trying to keep control of what he knew would be out of his control. Like I said he knew all this was rhetorical. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 5:40pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:At the bolded. You know quite alright he specifically asked Banjo to minimize use of force and loss of lives. He knew Banjo will be the person in charge of the troops and Awo will be the person in charge of the political side so he knew quite alright he knew how little authority he would have over Lagos from Enugu. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 5:46pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:At the bolded. Anybody can put a bullet nto anybody's head at any time including Ojukwu. It would be harder for Ojukwu to put a bullet into Banjo's head in Lagos all the way from Enugu. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 5:53pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy: At the bolded. You are my brother and my friend and we are having s friendly discussion about historical events which will neither change what happened nor have much impact in the grand scheme of things. Except u r being too emotional and too tribalistic about the whole thing. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 6:08pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
orisa37:There are quarrels and disagreements over every single one of those points. isn't that the definition of controversy? Our discussion of them here will have little impact in the grand scheme of things and certainly will not change the fact that Awo was a great man. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 6:16pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:Well said bro. Well said |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by T9ksy(m): 6:23pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:Am sure you are conversant with what happened to Afonja who led foreign soldiers to ransack old oyo-ile. Banjo was leading Ojukwu's troops to ransack his homeland. Once bitten, twice shy. It will be sheer stupidity to make the same mistake again. Not to mention, it was quite mischevious of ojukwu saying we 're friends. The r/ship between us at that moment in time was hardly what one can say is borne out of friendship rather that of rivals. This coming on the heel of ibo mutineers in the army murdering our leaders both military and civilians whilst saving theirs a few years earlier and you honestly think we "ll trust their intentions. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 6:28pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
Vivere:You don't.have to take.permission.but at the same time don't.blame.them for feeling deceived that you did what you never said u would do. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by T9ksy(m): 6:34pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe:You are not my brother or friend. I don't thrust you and your ilk. You did not see us as brothers when you and your leaders colluded with the northerners and relegate us to the background. As a consequence of you guys jumping into bed with the sardunna, you were able to forment trouble in our region, marginalise us in our region and take our jobs etc. You malign our leaders and call us all sort of names just because we refused to roll over and let you ride rough-shod over our land- what you wouldn't dare with the north. That's why those guys have been killing you lot at the slightest opportunity evrn before we got independence. |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Leez(m): 7:56pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
T9ksy:igbo civil servants were in d top positions in d north and controlled d markets there akintola complained cuz igbos were taking d top jobs in d west fact is igbos were ahead and dy was notin like quota system den |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 8:56pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
Leez:Thank you! Couldn't.have said it better |
| Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by T9ksy(m): 9:31pm On Oct 25, 2017 |
Leez:It's truism that Akintola complained about ibo's domination of federal govt appointments in western region and the south in general and that was the main reason why he broke away from Awo's political path to align with the sardunna. The moment Akintola aligned with the sardunna, the ibos lost most of their position and was the real reason why Akintola was marked for the coupist's bullets. |
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