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happney65:
They are like NTA.They lick trump's yansh..

They do not even realize how poorly educated they appear to be when they use a tabloid, be it right or left leaning (in this case right leaning like the Tower of Pisa ), to make their points. There is a wide range of quality journalism, right and left leaning, but they choose Faux News and even quote it proudly.

Raumdeuter, if you do want to give away your level of education in the future, stop quoting tabloids.

happney65:
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Keep keeping on my man. You, Mindfulness, Schwarskorf, Pdpguy and our other guys are my heroes.

Abbeybailey:
Keep keeping on my man. You, Mindfulness, Schwarskorf, Pdpguy and our other guys are my heroes.

Resist my brother. Resist. You have support in and outside.

Abbeybailey:
When a guy quotes Faux News all the time, you have to know that's where they get the alternative facts. Sarah Huckabee Sanders goes on Faux News every morning to throw out the WH Propaganda and Talking Points. It's the home of the deplorables and you have to be a hate monger to work at Faux News.

What kind of school fails to teach their students the difference between quality journalism and tabloids? No matter where you stand on the political spectrum, you should know the difference. Faux News is trash, regardless of your political inclinations.

Mindfulness:
Resist my brother. Resist. You have support in and outside.

Thanks my beautiful sister. My favorite rats are in hibernation. They couldn't handle Director Mueller dishing out indictments.

Abbeybailey:
Thanks my beautiful sister. My favorite rats are in hibernation. They couldn't handle Director Mueller dishing out indictments.

They will forever remain on the wrong side of history. Like Hitler's enablers.

Mindfulness:
They will forever remain on the wrong side of history. Like Hitler's enablers.

Absolutely yes and they are Joseph Goebles of Trump.

Mindfulness:
Faux News is your primary source of information as we can see. Continue swallowing the tabloid propaganda. I loved their interviews with Trump. So much praise, no critical questions. Lovely!

Typical liberal

You asked specifically why Republicans dont talk about other cities, I showed you from Fox the main Republican outlet

Now you turn around to say they are my source of information

Liberals are the most confused beings, You asked for something specific, I gave you and you turn around to complain again

WHat do liberals want?

Mindfulness:
They do not even realize how poorly educated they appear to be when they use a tabloid, be it right or left leaning (in this case right leaning like the Tower of Pisa ), to make their points. There is a wide range of quality journalism, right and left leaning, but they choose Faux News and even quote it proudly.

Rumdeuter, if you do want to give away your level of education in the future, stop quoting tabloids.

Liberals are known to be a confused bunch. You asked where Republicans criticized other cities, I showed you from the mouthpiece of the republican party

Fox news is a major news outlet not a tabloid. In case you dont know . This wont be the first time liberals who dont know anything come out to embarras themselves

Few minutes ago

Mindfulness:
St. Louis, Baltimore and Detroit have much higher homicide rates. Why didn't the right make such a huge issue of them? LOL

I show the right news outlet fox making a huge issue of those cities, Next we hear is below

Next

Mindfulness:
Faux News is your primary source of information as we can see. Continue swallowing the tabloid propaganda.

Its laughable and pathetic at the same time

Liberals 2 months ago, How can Trump allow Russia to meddle with our election

This week, report came out that liberals and DNC actually paid Russia to dig dirt on Trump

Liberals this week, What is wrong with some opposition research


Liberals

Very hilarious bunch

Abbeybailey:
You are a mo.ron like trump you worship. Will give you many instances of trump's racism but I know your brain is too shallow to absorb it but I will try anyway.

Firstly, he was charged in Queens, NY with his father by HUD for blacklisting blacks out of their rental units.

The Trump company was screening people out on basis of welfare, not race. The case ended with 'No wrongdoing', in favor of the Trump. They even counter-sued for over $100 million.

Secondly, the case of Central Park Five came to mind because those guys were about the same age I was then. This were 4 black guys and one latino guy that were arrested for rape and assault of a white female jogger who was found dead. They were prosecuted and jailed for life but lawyers rose up because a lot of things didn't add up. DNA was done and it came out that the 5 young people were innocent of the charges and they were set free and each was given $13 million for unjust imprisonment. Donald the racist ranted and put adverts all over the NY dailies asking for them to be executed even after the real murderer was identified. Up till today, our famous mo, ron never apologize for his bigotry and trying to take the life of five young minorities.

The jury found the central park five guilty and many New Yorkers including Trump campaigned for a death sentence for such crimes. The criminals were exonerated later on.

Another one, Judge Curiel who was born and raised in Indiana was hearing his case about the Fake and Unaccredited Trumo University, he called the judge Mexican that won't be fair to him and the judge is American of Mexican descendant. He started his campaign by calling Mexicans drug dealers, rapists and gang bangers. Even republican House Speaker called him out of that to say that's textbook racism.

Trump said that Judge Curiel’s Mexican heritage presented a conflict of interest for him in Trump University litigation. And that was his prerogative. Put in context how people misconstrue his Mexican illegal aliens and border wall rhetoric; plus the judge being of Mexican heritage... and you will get the reason why he felt as such.

Obama wad born in Kenya according to our racist in chief. Obama was forced to produce his long form birth certificate and the useless birther in chief still believe up to date that obama is an illegitimate president.

The authenticity of the Obama's birth certificate surfacing later on is still a contestable issue. However, Trump's argument was based on Obama's eligibility to run for president, which made it a serious legal issue until he released his birth certificate. The birther issue started in 2011, while Trump weighed in in March 2011. Obama released his long-form birth certificate the following month, April 2011. Trump then said, "I am really honored and I am really proud, that I was able to do something that nobody else could do." So it was a rational and valid argument rather than a race issue as race baiters would have you think.

The same bigot who hailed racists and Klans carrying Tiki Torches in Charlottesville as good men but deriding black men kneeling for injustice going on in America as Son of Bitches. I can go further but I will stop here for space.
You are obviously race baiting. Trump never made any comment on the Friday night march at the University of Virginia by the Unite the Right group who were carrying torches and yelling "Jews will not replace us". So you are pushing a false narrative here. He only weighed in on the violence that occurred the following Saturday morning. There was no violence on Friday night.
Trump condemned all acts of hate and violence "on both sides" meaning both the white supremacists and the terrorist antifa were condemned for their actions. However, there were other people who were also out there to peacefully protest the taking down of statues on one side and on the other side those who were behind antifa line to peacefully protest. Those peaceful ones Trump referred to as "fine people".
Again, Trump condemned any player that disrespects the flag. He did not mention anybody's name, rather, he was generalizing. His comment applies to any player taking a knee during the anthem irrespective of race. By the way, Colin Kaep's biological mother and both his adopted parents are white, in case you don't know.

[quote]He's an avowed White supremacist and millions of Americans believe so and what you think in your rat hole doesn't count because you don't count when it comes to America.

Show us evidence else it's bogus talk. Trump is the president and he's Making America Great Again after eight years of fascist DNC execrable regime. There's nothing race baiting liberal racist and an American wannabe like you can do about it because you don't count when it comes to America.

9inches:
The Trump company was screening people out on basis of welfare, not race. The case ended with 'No wrongdoing', in favor of the Trump. They even counter-sued for over $100 million.


The jury found the central park five guilty and many New Yorkers including Trump campaigned for a death sentence for such crimes. The criminals were exonerated later on.

Trump said that Judge Curiel’s Mexican heritage presented a conflict of interest for him in Trump University litigation. And that was his prerogative. Put in context how people misconstrue his Mexican illegal aliens and border wall rhetoric; plus the judge being of Mexican heritage... and you will get the reason why he felt as such.

The authenticity of the Obama's birth certificate surfacing later on is still a contestable issue. However, Trump's argument was based on Obama's eligibility to run for president, which made it a serious legal issue until he released his birth certificate. The birther issue started in 2011, while Trump weighed in in March 2011. Obama released his long-form birth certificate the following month, April 2011. Trump then said, "I am really honored and I am really proud, that I was able to do something that nobody else could do." So it was a rational and valid argument rather than a race issue as race baiters would have you think.

Thank goodness you came out of your rat hole. I am as American as Apple Pie. Enough said . You and your Nazi sympathizing crew lives on alternate facts. Those five young minorities guys were released from jail after DNA found them not culpable and the City of New York paid each of them $13 million . The real rapist and killer even confessed to the crime later and the DNA confirmed that too. About the rentals of their apartments in Queens, NY, he and his KKK Father paid fines to HUD. Judge Curiel was called out by the racist pig named trump and Americans jump all over him including the Republican House Speaker Ryan who called it Textbook racism. He even started his campaign on racism and bigotry calling Mexicans racist, drug dealers and disease carriers. According to you and your racist god tramp, Obama was born in Kenya and his long form birth certificate from Hawaii that he released was fake. What a Despicable never do well you are. Will be in Nigeria for Xmas as usual to spend the holidays with my parents and if you are gutsy enough, would like to see you and see the face behind these idiocy and ignorance. Meanwhile, choke on your Gari for Breakfast, lunch and dinner you human debris.

Mindfulness:
Even my white friends are more sensitive to racism and find Trump's racist remarks and agitations against minorities highly despicable.
I thought humanity was over it after the experiences of WW II and Hitler's persecution of the Jewish people.

Today Mexicans, Muslims, Hispanics and Blacks. Who tomorrow?

There is no problem with being sensitive to racism, the problem is when people yell racism where it does not exist. The worst of it all being the false alarm of liberals over non existent systemic or institutional racism. Having said that, it is quite evident how overly empathetic white folks are being guilted into mea culpa and to renounce their white privilege.

raumdeuter:
Few minutes ago



I show the right news outlet fox making a huge issue of those cities, Next we hear is below

Next

Its laughable and pathetic at the same time

Liberals 2 months ago, How can Trump allow Russia to meddle with our election

This week, report came out that liberals and DNC actually paid Russia to dig dirt on Trump

Liberals this week, What is wrong with some opposition research


Liberals

Very hilarious bunch

One of your rat pack friends the 9inches of garbage is still following the racist trump page that Obama was born in Hawaii. See why I said republicanism equates mental disorder. I know you don't believe that Obama was born in Kenya but with guys like this on your team, how do people take you guys seriously.

9inches:
There is no problem with being sensitive to racism, the problem is when people yell racism where it does not exist. The worst of it all being the false alarm of liberals over non existent systemic or institutional racism. It just does not exist; no one is yet to proof or provide evidence of it in this age.

Fvck off you scum of the earth. The best in your lineage couldn't carry Obama's jockstrap. A guy that can hardly feeds twice a day . Getting a Made in China Tecno phone and N200 data makes you a giant on nairaland . Woe unto you and everything you stand for you piece of Basura.

9inches:
There is no problem with being sensitive to racism, the problem is when people yell racism where it does not exist. The worst of it all being the false alarm of liberals over non existent systemic or institutional racism. It just does not exist; no one is yet to proof or provide evidence of it in this age.

Tell me which City, County and State you live in US to be this Braindead. A worthless underachieving Kwashiokor ravaged brown teeth and yellow eyed Americanna wannabe and Okrika wearing rat mouthing off on nairaland. I guess you run out of data again. Go hustle for another N200 and I will turn you upside down uptown Chicago style. Piece of poo.

Abbeybailey:
One of your rat pack friends the 9inches of garbage is still following the racist trump page that Obama was born in Hawaii. See why I said republicanism equates mental disorder. I know you don't believe that Obama was born in Kenya but with guys like this on your team, how do people take you guys seriously.

There are guys who believe anything. There are liberals who believe George Bush planned 9-11

A lot of Obamas political opponents have always brought this up right from the time he first stepped into politics including Hillary camp in 2008 I was in Chicago watching as Obama was battering her in the primaries and she was desperate went to New Hampshire to cry then started all sort of dirty antics to taint Obama as non American

Some hardcore Clinton backers circulated the rumors in 2008, but the campaign itself steered clear.

Politico, April 22, 2011: The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.
https://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563

The same claim was brought by Trump against ted Cruz who was born in Canada and Ted was able to prove it using the constitution that despite being born outside of the US, he was a natural born American.

raumdeuter:
There are guys who believe anything. There are liberals who believe George Bush planned 9-11

A lot of Obamas political opponents have always brought this up right from the time he first stepped into politics including Hillary camp in 2008 I was in Chicago watching as Obama was battering her in the primaries and she was desperate went to New Hampshire to cry then started all sort of dirty antics to taint Obama as non American

Some hardcore Clinton backers circulated the rumors in 2008, but the campaign itself steered clear.



The same claim was brought by Trump against ted Cruz who was born in Canada and Ted was able to prove it using the constitution that despite being born outside of the US, he was a natural born American.

There is no way to white wash it. It's the highest form of insanity which a lot of republicans suffer from. Every sane American know that Obama was American except some demented 71 year old bigot who think people that looks like you and I are monkeys. No wonder his approval rating is in the sewage according to his favorite News outlet, Faux News. Director Mueller is going full speed anyway. This national embarrassment will come to an end sooner or later.

9inches:
Let's observe their last exchange to see how/why anyone could chicken out of an argument with abbeybailey.



And below is analyzing your idol's counter argument or rebuttal.

Conclusions like this sidetracks the argument and makes the argument useless to continue with.


It’s hard to continue a conversation with anyone when all they try to do is hurl around epithets instead of addressing the issue at hand.



You simply can tell when someone does not have a valid argument as soon as he starts veering off the point and going rogue with innuendoes. That withstanding, let's dissect the bolded since it, at least, has something to do with an actual event.

1. Nothing proves Trump is a racist. This is a case of giving a dog a bad name in order to hang him. There should be proof or substantiated evidence that he is a racist. He also did not hail any "Nazis marching in Charlottesville as good men". On the contrary, he actually condemned everyone that perpetuated hate and violence in Charlottesvile. This includes both violent groups of antifa and white supremacists.

2. Again, this a false narrative. In Trump's words, “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired. He’s fired!” You see, nothing says "Black NFL players" here, rather, it was a general statement for ALL players irrespective of color... But I know race baiters like yourself will make it a race issue.


This is nothing other than wishful thinking; it has no basis and is off the point of argument.


Now you see why it is a waste of time to have any meaningful debate with your idol abbeybailey. He cannot complete a sentence, let alone a paragraph bereft of ab absurdo; this as well tells more about his cheerleaders like yourself.

Too much bullsh1t, you are obviously mad.

9inches:
The Trump company was screening people out on basis of welfare, not race. The case ended with 'No wrongdoing', in favor of the Trump. They even counter-sued for over $100 million.


The jury found the central park five guilty and many New Yorkers including Trump campaigned for a death sentence for such crimes. The criminals were exonerated later on.

Trump said that Judge Curiel’s Mexican heritage presented a conflict of interest for him in Trump University litigation. And that was his prerogative. Put in context how people misconstrue his Mexican illegal aliens and border wall rhetoric; plus the judge being of Mexican heritage... and you will get the reason why he felt as such.

The authenticity of the Obama's birth certificate surfacing later on is still a contestable issue. However, Trump's argument was based on Obama's eligibility to run for president, which made it a serious legal issue until he released his birth certificate. The birther issue started in 2011, while Trump weighed in in March 2011. Obama released his long-form birth certificate the following month, April 2011. Trump then said, "I am really honored and I am really proud, that I was able to do something that nobody else could do." So it was a rational and valid argument rather than a race issue as race baiters would have you think.

Trump own biography have part where he alluded on believing in eugenics, the same biography recorded a scenario where drumpf was at his New Jersey hotel branch, and saw black folks at the account and was visibly angry and scream load that " I don't like niggars counting my money, I like my money been counted by short white guys wearing yalmulks. You are obviously not too endowed in the brain department, you show all symptoms of an idiot that traded his common sense for finger food.

Abbeybailey:
There is no way to white wash it. It's the highest form of insanity which a lot of republicans suffer from. Every sane American know that Obama was American except some demented 71 year old bigot who think people that looks like you and I are monkeys. No wonder his approval rating is in the sewage according to his favorite News outlet, Faux News. Director Mueller is going full speed anyway. This national embarrassment will come to an end sooner or later.

Those in the Hilarry Clinton 2008 campaign who raised the issue are not Republicans they are Democrats

There are many democrats who think 9-11 was an American govt inside job to deliberately bomb itself

Some people believe Osama was not killed by Obama but hidden somewhere

This lying piece of sh1t won't kill us with lie. Hillary supporters believe in birthers theory while the campaign and Hillary denounce the same thing, your common sense need oiling, will this loser just shut the f**k up. Right wing losers like Alex Jones and whatreallyhappened.com were prominent right wing losers parroting the inside job theory.

From confirm source, the Monday indictment is for Jared Kushner but Manafort and Flynn to follow by next week. Can't wait for the show to get to the chief clan.

schwarzkopf:
From confirm source, the Monday indictment is for Jared Kushner but Manafort and Flynn to follow by next week. Can't wait for the show to get to the chief clan.

That is what we are hearing now from several sources and that will be a great news. He's a member of the Mafioso family just like his ex convict dad who was prosecuted by Chri Christie when he was the US Attorney in New Jersey. Eventually the big mo.ron will be caught in the dragnet and he will be forced to resigned like Tricky Dick did. Manafort and Gen Flynn are not far behind and so is little Mafiosi Don Jnr. Bunch of worthless conmen running America.

I am dancing to Queens song right now. Another one bite the dust. Our prayers will soon be answered soon . God bless Director Mueller and God bless the numerous investigative lawyers and Grand Juries dishing out the indictments. Rat pack, where are you guys. Having a date with rats and mosquitos in the sewage apartments you dwell in. Cursed people.

schwarzkopf:
From confirm source, the Monday indictment is for Jared Kushner but Manafort and Flynn to follow by next week. Can't wait for the show to get to the chief clan.

It will finally get to him because this is reminiscent of Watergate when John Dean, Gordon Liddy and Nixon aides were being indicted. They went to jail and republicans senators went to Nixon and tell him it's time to go and that's why he resigned. The mo.ron will end up like Nixon, disgraced out of office and he can go on and keep scamming gullible people like he did with his fake trump university.

schwarzkopf:
Trump own biography have part where he alluded on believing in eugenics, the same biography recorded a scenario where drumpf was at his New Jersey hotel branch, and saw black folks at the account and was visibly angry and scream load that " I don't like niggars counting my money, I like my money been counted by short white guys wearing yalmulks. You are obviously not too endowed in the brain department, you show all symptoms of an idiot that traded his common sense for finger food.

That 9inches of garbage is a sick puppy. Hunger has destroyed the little left of his charred brain.

Abbeybailey:
Thank goodness you came out of your rat hole. I am as American as Apple Pie. Enough said .

Considering that the old Democrat fragile f00l, Nancy Pelosi has recently said DACA kids are as "American as apple pie", I can totally understand the nuanced usage of such expression by the liberal left. Enough said.

You and your Nazi sympathizing crew lives on alternate facts. Those five young minorities guys were released from jail after DNA found them not culpable and the City of New York paid each of them $13 million . The real rapist and killer even confessed to the crime later and the DNA confirmed that too.

According to NYC lawyers for refusing to pay settlement, "the confessions that withstood intense scrutiny, in full and fair pretrial hearings and at two lengthy public trials" established probable cause. While running for mayor in 2013, Bill de Blasio (Democrat) pledged to settle the case if he wins the election, which he did.
Only one of the five received $12.2 million, the rest got $7.1 million each. Note also that the city did not admit to any wrongdoing in the settlement. Stop living in a CNN, MSNBC cocoon. Emancipate yourself from your mental slavery and paranoia, and live free.

About the rentals of their apartments in Queens, NY, he and his KKK Father paid fines to HUD.

The Trumps did not pay any fine. You are an unrepentant liar.

Judge Curiel was called out by the racist pig named trump and Americans jump all over him including the Republican House Speaker Ryan who called it Textbook racism.

Judge Curiel has Mexican heritage which presented a conflict of interest. He evidently did not judge fairly, so it was Trump's prerogative to chose to call him out for his bias disposition.

He even started his campaign on racism and bigotry calling Mexicans racist, drug dealers and disease carriers.

Listen carefully to what he said exactly and not what cnn forced into your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TML2cApMueU

According to you and your racist god tramp, Obama was born in Kenya and his long form birth certificate from Hawaii that he released was fake. What a Despicable never do well you are.

Where did I say that exactly. You are a despicable liar. Trump also raised Ted Cruz birther issue during the 2016 election campaign; how racist was that for you?
The point is Trump was doing the right and very sensible thing by questioning Obama's eligibility to contest for president. Obama was to blame having allowed the issue to fester. Logically, releasing the certificate after 3 years of the controversy could be argued to be fishy. Now pay attention to this - It could be forged after 3 years.

Will be in Nigeria for Xmas as usual to spend the holidays with my parents and if you are gutsy enough, would like to see you and see the face behind these idiocy and ignorance. Meanwhile, choke on your Gari for Breakfast, lunch and dinner you human debris.

You will be travelling to Nigeria from the moon. Tell us another cool story, American wannabe.

Let's see if there is any sense in this post for a change...

Abbeybailey:
Fvck off you scum of the earth. The best in your lineage couldn't carry Obama's jockstrap. A guy that can hardly feeds twice a day . Getting a Made in China Tecno phone and N200 data makes you a giant on nairaland . Woe unto you and everything you stand for you piece of Basura.

Yet another exposé of lack of intellectual argument. I pity your parents hoping on you for good outcome in life. I can sense how disappointed they are now.

9inches:
Considering that the old Democrat fragile f00l, Nancy Pelosi has recently said DACA kids are as "American as apple pie", I can totally understand the nuanced usage of such expression by the liberal left. Enough said.

According to NYC lawyers for refusing to pay settlement, "the confessions that withstood intense scrutiny, in full and fair pretrial hearings and at two lengthy public trials" established probable cause. While running for mayor in 2013, Bill de Blasio (Democrat) pledged to settle the case if he wins the election, which he did.
Only one of the five received $12.2 million, the rest got $7.1 million each. Note also that the city did not admit to any wrongdoing in the settlement. Stop living in a CNN, MSNBC cocoon. Emancipate yourself from your mental slavery and paranoia, and live free.

The Trumps did not pay any fine. You are an unrepentant liar.


Judge Curiel has Mexican heritage which presented a conflict of interest. He evidently did not judge fairly, so it was Trump's prerogative to chose to call him out for his bias disposition.

Listen carefully to what he said exactly and not what cnn forced into your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TML2cApMueU

Where did I say that exactly. You are a despicable liar. Trump also raised Ted Cruz birther issue during the 2016 election campaign; how racist was that for you?
The point is Trump was doing the right and very sensible thing by questioning Obama's eligibility to contest for president. Obama was to blame having allowed the issue to fester. Logically, releasing the certificate after 3 years of the controversy could be argued to be fishy. Now pay attention to this - It could be forged after 3 years.

You will be travelling to Nigeria from the moon. Tell us another cool story, American wannabe.

Go crawl back in your rat hole. The case of Central Park 5 were settled more than 20 years ago and what does Mayor Deblaiso have to do with. You are one sick hungry puppy. Go fight your Biafra and operation Python dance probably will consume you. Worthless Kwashiokor ravage piece of garbage.

Let's see again if there is any good argument here..

Abbeybailey:
Tell me which City, County and State you live in US to be this Braindead. A worthless underachieving Kwashiokor ravaged brown teeth and yellow eyed Americanna wannabe and Okrika wearing rat mouthing off on nairaland. I guess you run out of data again. Go hustle for another N200 and I will turn you upside down uptown Chicago style. Piece of poo.

Yet another epic fail by someone who claimed he defeated an individual in a debate. Telling you my address won't change your state of ignorance and utter stup1dity for good, so I see no need at this moment.

raumdeuter:
There are guys who believe anything. There are liberals who believe George Bush planned 9-11

A lot of Obamas political opponents have always brought this up right from the time he first stepped into politics including Hillary camp in 2008 I was in Chicago watching as Obama was battering her in the primaries and she was desperate went to New Hampshire to cry then started all sort of dirty antics to taint Obama as non American

Some hardcore Clinton backers circulated the rumors in 2008, but the campaign itself steered clear.

The same claim was brought by Trump against ted Cruz who was born in Canada and Ted was able to prove it using the constitution that despite being born outside of the US, he was a natural born American.

It's quite evident liberals have issues with understanding and logic. Below is the post I replied him with.

9inches:
The authenticity of the Obama's birth certificate surfacing later on is still a contestable issue. However, Trump's argument was based on Obama's eligibility to run for president, which made it a serious legal issue until he released his birth certificate. The birther issue started in 2008, while Trump weighed in in March 2011. Obama released his long-form birth certificate the following month, April 2011. Trump then said, "I am really honored and I am really proud, that I was able to do something that nobody else could do." So it was a rational and valid argument rather than a race issue as race baiters would have you think.