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Thank God for that gorvernment,they know such implication on that child during his/her growing.....If it's here in Africa they may be running away from her or won't associate with her

NubiLove:
WHY ARE YOU LYING?

I am sure you are the typical Christian that tells all sorts of lies in the name of converting a person... a simple google search shows this your statement are all lies!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Albania

YOU ARE JUST A BIG LIAR!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Albania

He's talking about some years back.



"The Agrarian Reform Law of August 1946 nationalized
most property of religious institutions, including the
estates of monasteries, orders, and dioceses. Many
clergy and believers were tried, tortured, and executed.
All foreign Roman Catholic priests, monks, and nuns
were expelled in 1946. [60]
Religious communities or branches that had their
headquarters outside the country, such as the Jesuit
and Franciscan orders, were henceforth ordered to
terminate their activities in Albania. Religious institutions
were forbidden to have anything to do with the
education of the young, because that had been made
the exclusive province of the state. All religious
communities were prohibited from owning real estate
and from operating philanthropic and welfare
institutions and hospitals. Although there were tactical
variations in First Secretary of the Communist Party
Enver Hoxha's approach to each of the major
denominations, his overarching objective was the
eventual destruction of all organized religion in Albania.
Between 1945 and 1953, the number of priests was
reduced drastically and the number of Roman Catholic
churches was decreased from 253 to 100, and all
Catholics were stigmatized as fascists."

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I would like to apologize for what I said about the Albania. Contrary to what I said, it was actually the most luxurious country for a religous person to live. As the following extract from the Wikipedia "state atheism" page clearly says:

Religion in Albania was subordinated to the interests of nationalism during periods of national revival, when it was identified as foreign predation to Albanian culture. During the late nineteenth century, and also when Albania became a state, religions were suppressed [/b]in order to better unify Albanians. This nationalism was also used to justify the communist stance of state atheism from 1967 to 1991. The Agrarian Reform Law of August 1945 nationalized most property of religious institutions, including the estates of mosques, monasteries, orders, and dioceses. Many clergy and believers were tried and some were executed. All foreign Roman Catholic priests, monks, and nuns were expelled in 1946.

Religious communities or branches that had their headquarters outside the country, such as the Jesuit and Franciscan orders, were henceforth ordered to terminate their activities in Albania. [b]Religious institutions were forbidden to have anything to do with the education of the young, because that had been made the exclusive province of the state. All religious communities were prohibited from owning real estate and from operating philanthropic and welfare institutions and hospitals . Although there were tactical variations in Enver Hoxha's approach to each of the major denominations, his overarching objective was the eventual destruction of all organized religion in Albania. Between 1945 and 1953, the number of priests was reduced drastically and the number of Roman Catholic churches was decreased from 253 to 100, and all Catholics were stigmatized as fascists .

The campaign against religion peaked in the 1960s. Beginning in February 1967 the Albanian authorities launched a campaign to eliminate religious life in Albania . Despite complaints, even by APL members, all churches, mosques, monasteries, and other religious institutions were either closed down or converted into warehouses, gymnasiums, or workshops by the end of 1967. By May 1967, religious institutions had been forced to relinquish all 2,169 churches, mosques, cloisters, and shrines in Albania, many of which were converted into cultural centers for young people. As the literary monthly Nendori reported the event, the youth had thus "created the first atheist nation in the world."

Clerics were publicly vilified and humiliated, their vestments were taken and desecrated. More than 200 clerics of various faiths were imprisoned, others were forced to seek work in either industry or agriculture, and some were executed or starved to death. The cloister of the Franciscan order in Shkodër was set on fire, which resulted in the death of four elderly monks.

Article 37 of the Albanian Constitution of 1976 stipulated, "The state recognizes no religion, and supports atheistic propaganda in order to implant a scientific materialistic world outlook in people.", and the penal code of 1977 imposed prison sentences of three to ten years for "religious propaganda and the production, distribution, or storage of religious literature." A new decree that in effect targeted Albanians with Muslim and Christian names, stipulating that citizens whose names did not conform to "the political, ideological, or moral standards of the state" were to change them. It was also decreed that towns and villages with religious names must be renamed. Hoxha's brutal antireligious campaign succeeded in eradicating formal worship, but some Albanians continued to practice their faith clandestinely, risking severe punishment . Individuals caught with Bibles, Qurans, icons, or other religious objects faced long prison sentences. Religious weddings were prohibited.

Parents were afraid to pass on their faith, for fear that their children would tell others . Officials tried to entrap practicing Christians and Muslims during religious fasts, such as Lent and Ramadan, by distributing dairy products and other forbidden foods in school and at work, and then publicly denouncing those who refused the food. Those clergy who conducted secret services were incarcerated. Catholic priest Shtjefen Kurti had been executed for secretly baptizing a child in Shkodër in 1972 .

The article was interpreted by Danes as violating The United Nations Charter (chapter 9, article 55) which declares that religious freedom is an inalienable human right. The first time that the question came before the United Nations' Commission on Human Rights at Geneva was as late as 7 March 1983. A delegation from Denmark got its protest over Albania's violation of religious liberty placed on the agenda of the thirty-ninth meeting of the commission, item 25, reading, "Implementation of the Declaration on the Elimination of all Forms of Intolerance and of Discrimination based on Religion or Belief.", and on 20 July 1984 a member of the Danish Parliament inserted an article into one of Denmark's major newspapers protesting the violation of religious freedom in Albania.

The 1998 Constitution of Albania defined the country as a parliamentary republic, and established personal and political rights and freedoms, including protection against coercion in matters of religious belief. Albania is a member state of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, and the 2011 census found that 58.79% of Albanians adhere to Islam, making it the largest religion in the country. The majority of Albanian Muslims are secular Sunnis along with a significant Bektashi Shia minority. Christianity is practiced by 16.99% of the population, making it the 2nd largest religion in the country. The remaining population is either irreligious or belongs to other religious groups.

Before World War II, there was given a distribution of 70% Muslims, 20% Eastern Orthodox, and 10% Roman Catholics. Today, Gallup Global Reports 2010 shows that religion plays a role in the lives of 39% of Albanians, and ranks Albania the thirteenth least religious country in the world. The U.S. state department reports that in 2013, "There were no reports of societal abuses or discrimination based on religious affiliation, belief, or practice."

The same kind of horrible persecution occur in the Soviet Union when it was an atheist state. Today in atheist state of North Korea, religious folks are violently subjugated.

Thank God Albania and the Soviet Union are no longer atheist states. Rest in peace for those who died during those dark days of state atheism, we will always remember you. May God also comfort those who are currently suffering at the hands of atheists.

czarina:
They can still beat the system by naming their babies Hitler

They are NOT allowed to name their babies 'HITLER' as well.

rekinomtla:
At least the parents were not treated like animals. Unlike in Albania, the first officially declared atheist nation. The atheist state would imprisoned and tortured anyone who had a name related to any religion. If your name was peter, you had to change it, or else you would be imprisoned, tortured and then killed. Changing your name of course wasn't enough to keep you alive, you had to renounce God and convert to atheism. If you refused, you would be executed.

bro that was before...it's no longer an atheist state

RegalD:
Lucifer is the name given to the devil in ages past by God. No doubt it is good, but after the angelic conflict it has become associated with evil... The country is only trying to prevent the child from a consequential stigma

I agree. It is "associated with evil" but is NOT evil- it is a good name, just that the bearer of that name has polluted the meaning hence the stigma. It still holds more weight than Moses

What of Anini

rekinomtla:
At least the parents were not treated like animals. Unlike in Albania, the first officially declared atheist nation. The atheist state would imprisoned and tortured anyone who had a name related to any religion. If your name was peter, you had to change it, or else you would be imprisoned, tortured and then killed. Changing your name of course wasn't enough to keep you alive, you had to renounce God and convert to atheism. If you refused, you would be executed.

Update: For those misreading my post. I'm talking about Albania when it was an atheist state, it is no longer. Hence religous folks are not treated like animals in Albania anymore, like they once were for several decades when it was an atheist state. You can read more about that here. Thank you

Are you kidding me?? What a nation.

okay.

Mofe72:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Albania

He's talking about some years back.



"The Agrarian Reform Law of August 1946 nationalized
most property of religious institutions, including the
estates of monasteries, orders, and dioceses. Many
clergy and believers were tried, tortured, and executed.
All foreign Roman Catholic priests, monks, and nuns
were expelled in 1946. [60]
Religious communities or branches that had their
headquarters outside the country, such as the Jesuit
and Franciscan orders, were henceforth ordered to
terminate their activities in Albania. Religious institutions
were forbidden to have anything to do with the
education of the young, because that had been made
the exclusive province of the state. All religious
communities were prohibited from owning real estate
and from operating philanthropic and welfare
institutions and hospitals. Although there were tactical
variations in First Secretary of the Communist Party
Enver Hoxha's approach to each of the major
denominations, his overarching objective was the
eventual destruction of all organized religion in Albania.
Between 1945 and 1953, the number of priests was
reduced drastically and the number of Roman Catholic
churches was decreased from 253 to 100, and all
Catholics were stigmatized as fascists."

rekinomtla:
At least the parents were not treated like animals. Unlike in Albania, the first officially declared atheist nation. The atheist state would imprisoned and tortured anyone who had a name related to any religion. If your name was peter, you had to change it, or else you would be imprisoned, tortured and then killed. Changing your name of course wasn't enough to keep you alive, you had to renounce God and convert to atheism. If you refused, you would be executed.

Update: For those misreading my post. I'm talking about Albania when it was an atheist state, it is no longer. Hence religous folks are not treated like animals in Albania anymore, like they once were for several decades when it was an atheist state. You can read more about that here. Thank you

Atheist are d most hypocritic beings on earth. And very intolerant too.

correctguy101:
I for fear o.

Lol this is proof that most of you Atheist know nothing about history. So you've not heard anything about the Atheist crackdown on Christianity in Albania!

EWAagoyin:
Can I name my child pharoah

Pharaoh is not a proper noun, it's a title, just like King or chief, or Mr. All the pharaohs had their personal names, just like gods. All the gods have their personal names.

ollah1:
Don't believe everything some people write here. Albania used to b an atheist country but that was donkey years ago. There are different faiths in the country now but largely Muslims.

But was what that guy wrote done then? I mean, when it was an atheist nation?

Mofe72:
He's not completely false.
Albania was in fact the first Atheist Nation.
Enver Hoxha declared this during the era of communism.


They however reverted to a more tolerant system after his death(1985).

Don't be so quick to make corrections without first getting facts.

Did the Government of Enver Hoxha persecuted People for their beliefs?

Mofe72:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Albania

He's talking about some years back.



"The Agrarian Reform Law of August 1946 nationalized
most property of religious institutions, including the
estates of monasteries, orders, and dioceses. Many
clergy and believers were tried, tortured, and executed.
All foreign Roman Catholic priests, monks, and nuns
were expelled in 1946. [60]
Religious communities or branches that had their
headquarters outside the country, such as the Jesuit
and Franciscan orders, were henceforth ordered to
terminate their activities in Albania. Religious institutions
were forbidden to have anything to do with the
education of the young, because that had been made
the exclusive province of the state. All religious
communities were prohibited from owning real estate
and from operating philanthropic and welfare
institutions and hospitals. Although there were tactical
variations in First Secretary of the Communist Party
Enver Hoxha's approach to each of the major
denominations, his overarching objective was the
eventual destruction of all organized religion in Albania.
Between 1945 and 1953, the number of priests was
reduced drastically and the number of Roman Catholic
churches was decreased from 253 to 100, and all
Catholics were stigmatized as fascists."

Cc: NPComplete. Why do you hate Christianity so much? No one has forced you to become a Christian. You are hurting yourself more. Imagine the venom coming out from you.

rekinomtla:
I would like to apologize for what I said about the Albania. Contrary to what I said, it was actually the most luxurious country for a religous person to live. As the following extract from the Wikipedia "state atheism" page clearly says:



The same kind of horrible persecution occur in the Soviet Union when it was an atheist state. Today in atheist state of North Korea, religious folks are violently subjugated.

Thank God Albania and the Soviet Union are no longer atheist states. Rest in peace for those who died during those dark days of state atheism, we will always remember you. May God also comfort those who are currently suffering at the hands of atheists.

Where are the bitter, haters of Christians and Christianity? All the insults you hauled on this guy, i hope you'all be ashamed now?

701ecilana:
Cc: NPComplete. Why do you hate Christianity so much? No one has forced you to become a Christian. You are hurting yourself more. Imagine the venom coming out from you.

Stories. Stop supporting a liar. Even that comment u just quoted is nothing close to what your lying friend posted. There's no evidence of people being asked to change their religious names. He even called Albania the first declared atheist state. But what u are even talking about happened under Soviet rule. You should stop supporting a liar because he is on your side.
The thread wasn't even about atheism but he brought it up just to tell lies. Your lying friend started the venom first. I am even beginning to suspect that person is u.
Point out the venom in my post.

Statsocial:
Lol this is proof that most of you Atheist know nothing about history. So you've not heard anything about the Atheist crackdown on Christianity in Albania!

I resemble atheist for your eyes

You too mumu abeg

EWAagoyin:
Can I name my child pharoah

Pharoah no be person name oo

701ecilana:
Where are the bitter, haters of Christians and Christianity? All the insults you hauled on this guy, i hope you'all be ashamed now?

Some atheists here on Nairaland share that same hatred for Christianity and Christians as those of atheists of Albania. Luckily they are in the minority.

Statsocial:
Atheist are d most hypocritic beings on earth. And very intolerant too.

Christians are also Atheists.

U mean to tell me u don't know me huhh, I'm Lucifer Morningstar. Im the king of hell I punish evil

Another one

A: Who is the boy?
B: He is a nephilim
A: wow the product of the union of wn angel and a human
B: not just any angel, but an archangel
C: He is Lucifer's Son

701ecilana:
Did the Government of Enver Hoxha persecuted People for their beliefs?

Yup

701ecilana:
Cc: NPComplete. Why do you hate Christianity so much? No one has forced you to become a Christian. You are hurting yourself more. Imagine the venom coming out from you.

Excuse me?!

Can you read?

I'm quoting a wikipedia article

701ecilana:
But was what that guy wrote done then? I mean, when it was an atheist nation?

Centuries ago

thornapple:
Good one, but then should i switch any of those name tags wouldn't i have successfully switched babies.

Please can I buy u pant?