Shikena:

Actually, it does. We have such stories across America.
My cousin's girlfriend was already working as a BSN when he landed in America. He settled down big time within 6 months and is doing huge things in Nigeria today.

your stories doesnt add up

FrankNetter:


Your ignorance is deafening.

So go ahead and show me a single RN with $200,000 in 401k or $50,000 in cash. I deal with facts bro, not assumption. Even Doctors dont have $200,000 saved when they still have that huge $300,000 medical school loans to tackle.

fashrola:


In calabar you will definitely see a two bedroom flat for 250k at Marian, Etta-Agbor (Busy and highbrow areas)

which etta-agbor or marian abeg? 350k up. Please don't call akim.

timesup234:
So go ahead and show me a single RN with $200,000 in 401k or $50,000 in cash. I deal with facts bro, not assumption. Even Doctors dont have $200,000 saved when they still have that huge $300,000 medical school loans to tackle.

You are spot on... Most Americans don't even have $80k in cash... Its debt to debt, and loan financing and all stuff

thebosstrevor:


Nigerian in america are known for gaming the system,trying to be smarter than the system but the system eventually outsmart them because they are monitored financially through credit report

Nigerians in america are not all rich,they fall between all classes of higher middle class and low income,pls do not try to paint the story as it all Nigerians in america that are successful,there many poor Nigerians in america and few middle class just like in Nigeria,i have been there and i have seen the homelessness and suffering of many Nigerians,go to the Nigerian consulate in new york, everyday we receive letters of financial help from many Nigerians in the states.they would have been better off in Nigeria.

Yes, America is huge and we know there are 50 states but when a Nigerian in American is sending letter to the Nigerian Consulate in New York (With all their own financial problems ) then you know that the person has even bigger issues and I'm inclined to believe that those asking you for help in America are not people with work authorization in the US.
Why beg in a country where 24 out of 25 employables are employed?? A country with huge programs for assistance of low-income earners including food stamps, section 8 housing schemes, etc?? You simply have no clue dude.
Like it or not, you may focus on what tickles your fancy but again Nigerians in America are well-known for taking advantage of the opportunities in America LEGALLY. Go to the schools/colleges, go to the tech boot camps, request for list of licensed professionals (Medicine, Pharmacy, Engineering, IT, Nursing, Law, Architecture, Academics) across the United States, spot the numerous Nigerian names and come back here to tell me that they are doing illegal stuff.

Alexander001:
which etta-agbor or marian abeg? 350k up. Please don't call akim.

in mariam you see 250 even in bibosco you will see for that amount

thebosstrevor:


your stories doesnt add up

How so?

Shikena:

Yes, America is huge and we know there are 50 states but when a Nigerian in American is sending letter to the Nigerian Consulate in New York (With all their own financial problems ) then you know that the person has even bigger issues and I'm inclined to believe that those asking you for help in America are not people with work authorization in the US.
Why beg in a country where 24 out of 25 employables are employed?? A country with huge programs for assistance of low-income earners including food stamps, section 8 housing schemes, etc?? You simply have no clue dude.
Like it or not, you may focus on what tickles your fancy but again Nigerians in America are well-known for taking advantage of the opportunities in America LEGALLY. Go to the schools/colleges, go to the tech boot camps, request for list of licensed professionals (Medicine, Pharmacy, Engineering, IT, Nursing, Law, Architecture, Academics) across the United States and come back here to tell me that they are doing illegal stuff.

Don't mind them. They only say those things to discourage people from coming.


I did a background check on a guy i know personally in Texas, the figure he commands is something else...

Iblad0994:

Bro I think you’re getting it wrong .let me break it down for you . Let’s talk about North Carolina for example , the least you can get here by working at Walmart stores or Best Buy stores is $9 per hour for starters and you can work for at least 40hours per week. That is approximately $1440 per month. Let’s say after tax you get $1300 which to me is the least you can get for menial job . Rent and utilities may be $400 per month if you try to get it close to a student area, feeding let’s say $200 if you always cook at home and other payments may be car insurance if you have a car and miscellaneous which may be $30, $70 respectively .
That means you still have approx. $600 left for yourself per month after the normal bills which is equivalent to 213,000 naira.
I repeat bro, that is the least you can get here if you have your papers and not some illegal immigrant working under the table . And as a graduate here you can get $80,000 - $150,000 annually. So do the maths.
I’m not saying America is paradise , but you shouldn’t compare it to Nigeria. I know Nigeria is gonna be better soon, Insha Allah.
I don’t always comment on nairaland but I just need to reorientate you based on what you posted up there .
Thanks

Bro i have been avoiding what most people including you have been saying. Show me where i compare Nigeria to America in terms of standard of living? It was when the debate got heated that i had to put some people in their position. If you live in America you will understand what i am saying here. Every single Nigerian doing odd jobs to survive, soon as they get their first paycheck they start shouting they are richer than bankers in Nigeria...please check your salary estimate, no way you make 1400usd and get 1300usd after tax

Shikena:

Yes, America is huge and we know there are 50 states but when a Nigerian in American is sending letter to the Nigerian Consulate in New York (With all their own financial problems ) then you know that the person has even bigger issues and I'm inclined to believe that those asking you for help in America are not people with work authorization in the US.
Why beg in a country where 24 out of 25 employables are employed?? A country with huge programs for assistance of low-income earners including food stamps, section 8 housing schemes, etc?? You simply have no clue dude.
Like it or not, you may focus on what tickles your fancy but again Nigerians in America are well-known for taking advantage of the opportunities in America LEGALLY. Go to the schools/colleges, go to the tech boot camps, request for list of licensed professionals (Medicine, Pharmacy, Engineering, IT, Nursing, Law, Architecture, Academics) across the United States and come back here to tell me that they are doing illegal stuff.

but why are all of you coming back and competing with us for jobs since in america 24 out of 25 employables are employed.

timesup234:
Bro i have been avoiding what most people including you have been saying. Show me where i compare Nigeria to America in terms of standard of living? It was when the debate got heated that i had to put some people in their position. If you live in America you will understand what i am saying here. Every single Nigerian doing odd jobs to survive, soon as they get their first paycheck they start shouting they are richer than bankers in Nigeria...please check your salary estimate, no way you make 1400usd and get 1300usd after tax

Can it be this bad

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cowleg:


Yes Nigerian educational system is not compatible with USA standards.

but RN and MBBS are getting job there after they have passed the necessary professional exams?

obibanks:
Seriously, the OP arguement is flawed. Why do you expect someone without training to earn high? You really sound like a disgruntled person. Can you compare the percentage of graduates employed in Nigeria to that of USA? You just decided to make baseless arguements

majority of graduates in america are jobless or working in a field that is different from their discipline. Dont let me even go there, you will be surprised at the jobless rate of americans. Far from the 4% you hear. Welcome to reality bro

timesup234:
Bro i have been avoiding what most people including you have been saying. Show me where i compare Nigeria to America in terms of standard of living? It was when the debate got heated that i had to put some people in their position. If you live in America you will understand what i am saying here. Every single Nigerian doing odd jobs to survive, soon as they get their first paycheck they start shouting they are richer than bankers in Nigeria...please check your salary estimate, no way you make 1400usd and get 1300usd after tax

It also depends on what you're into in the US. From investment banking to ebay, to amazon, to google, to drop shipping, to auctions, to real estate short term buying and selling, to street hustling, opportunities are much. Are you sure you're not limited by things you don't know?

Shikena:

How so?

your cousin is ther gf is back in nigeria
you are there,you lived in foreign countries before)

just misleading and difficul to understand

thebosstrevor:


but why are all of you coming back and competing with us for jobs since in america 24 out of 25 employables are employed.

Employment and investment are two different things
I am not defending America for argument sake and it is not because I hate my beloved homeland Nigeria - I want Nigeria to work and that's why I have a responsibility to address the misrepresentations here so we know what could be for Nigeria. We can also get there but not by lying about our comparative quality of life with other countries.

timesup234:
Bro i have been avoiding what most people including you have been saying. Show me where i compare Nigeria to America in terms of standard of living? It was when the debate got heated that i had to put some people in their position. If you live in America you will understand what i am saying here. Every single Nigerian doing odd jobs to survive, soon as they get their first paycheck they start shouting they are richer than bankers in Nigeria...please check your salary estimate, no way you make 1400usd and get 1300usd after tax

Yeah I’m living in America but I’m a master’s student here . So I know what I’m talking about. It doesn’t matter if the tax range is lower I’m working on estimate and the error Value can be just +-$50.. WHat I’m saying here is that if you’re here legally and you have the authorization to work . Then, that’s the least you can earn, I know what I’m saying and you can never compare someone here with even a normal bank worker in Nigeria. what you said about Nigerians here shouting about being rich than bankers in Nigeria is a thing of the brain , it’s individual view of seeing life and it’s always attached to ego. But in the real sense they are actually richer than the bank workers in Nigeria because that’s the fact. Remember the value I quoted for you is the least you can earn here if you have the authorization to work

justwise:


Nice to see a thread where like minded Nigerians gathered together to lie to themselves.

badass I dey gbadun this guy. See bomb!

Iblad0994:


Yeah I’m living in America but I’m a master’s student here . So I know what I’m talking about. It doesn’t matter if the tax range is lower I’m working on estimate and the error Value can be just +-$50.. WHat I’m saying here is that if you’re here legally and you have the authorization to work . Then, that’s the least you can earn, I know what I’m saying and you can never compare someone here with even a normal bank worker in Nigeria. what you said about Nigerians here shouting about being rich than bankers in Nigeria is a thing of the brain , it’s individual view of seeing life and it’s always attached to ego. But in the real sense they are actually richer than the bank workers in Nigeria because that’s the fact. Remember the value I quoted for you is the least you can earn here if you have the authorization to work

The richest guys are ICT guys.... They are neither here nor there, not in Nigeria, not in USA, but they smile to the bank with their cool cash...

The truth is, you can't compare life in United States to life in Nigeria, its never comparable my brothers and sisters.

America is a blessed nation, courtesy of good and visionary leaders who have the country at heart unlike Nigeria where leaders are crooks out to loot the nation dry for their personal gain, and that is why every Nigerian youth must join hands and let's build Nigeria to our dream nation.

How can we achieve this

Youths need to take over leadership in Nigeria and chart a new course for Nigeria.

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Mugu why don't u compare Nigerians doing menial jobs in America to those doing menial jobs in Nigeria or bank manager vs bank manager?
Guy try get ur visa and leave poverty in Nigeria.

thebosstrevor:


your cousin is ther gf is back in nigeria
you are there,you lived in foreign countries before)

just misleading and difficul to understand

When things don't add up, you should first question your own understanding of the issue
Ok, let me break it down:
1. My cousin's girlfriend moved to the US and got a degree in Nursing (BSN) and then got a job.
2. My cousin was based in Nigeria and joined her in the US about 4 years later.
3. His girlfriend's assistance helped him settle down pretty fast and was fully on his feet within 6 months.

Sometimes the issue is not with what people say but with 'our own interpretation of what they said'.

NONNYG:
with this your false statistics & also the presence of Pidgin2, I give up on the argument. Ghost mode activated


God bless America

Bro, are you now in US?

timesup234:
It is the plain truth. It is impossible to save 10kusd annually in the united states, even those with a paying job of $75,000 cant save that much. Do you know what it means to have $100,0000 in cash in america? 85% of americans dont have it and i am even talking about first class citizens

It is possible

Slaveman343:
No I see desperate people trying to protect an illusion they have created for others that is far from reality. I don't see any balanced view here, all I hear from Nigerians over there is that Nigeria is bad and America is good because they have stable power and water supply and good roads. This argument is no longer holding water anymore since Nigeria is catching up already.

hahaha. Nigeria is catching up indeed.

thebosstrevor:


please just stop lying,it doesnt happen like that in america,stop watching too much of nollywood

Suit yourself young man. You can never learn this way. You have not been outside the shores of this bleeped up country called naija. When you work in a country in a legit way, the veils will fall off and you will realize that you have been wasting time in naija

supersystemsnig:



The richest guys are ICT guys.... They are neither here nor there, not in Nigeria, not in USA, but they smile to the bank with their cool cash...

Sometimes Nigerians amaze me , when I first got here a lot of companies came to my school searching for who to employ and they are big companies . You don’t need to compare USA to naija , they are two different world for God sake. I’m not saying every Nigerian here are made men but at least majority of people living here legally with certificate are big boys.
Yes ICT guys and nursing professionals are making a lot of money here in USA . If you have a degree in any ICT field and have your papers , you’re a big boy and you can never be compared to even a bank manager in Nigeria because you’ll earn far far more than the bank manager is earning

Shikena:

Employment and investment are two different things
I am not defending America for argument sake and it is not because I hate my beloved homeland Nigeria - I want Nigeria to work and that's why I have a responsibility to address the misrepresentations here so we know what could be for Nigeria. We can also get there but not by lying about our comparative quality of life with other countries.

many of you claim you came back to invest in nigeria but we havent seen any of your investments and talk of changing the country

Nobody claim nigeria is perfect but you guys think everybody in nigeria is suffering and that is not the truth.the behaviour of we are superior than people at home,thank god for internet,we hear of the police brutality on blacks and troubles of racial discrimination,when we hear this,we know all is not well in that america "the land of the free"

there are many homeless people in newyork alone than the number of mad men on nigerian streets.

Pidgin2:


You are 100% right. Most of them only deceive their relatives here during festive periods when they come around. This is after they have worked and saved all year round doing menial jobs. Only a few are truly successful but their number can't be compared to the majority who are living from hand to mouth with no reasonable savings

i don’t know why you think most Nigerians in the state do meniac job. You need to download your research very well. Over 30% of Nigerian living in USA have bachelor degree in USA. Over 10% make more than $200,000. I can support my claim with a well researched fact.

IForgotMyLoginD:
True. Cost of living, taxes etc.... Paying for gas, cable, insurance, food (this one can take up to $200 a month), rent (depending on wer u live, $400-$700 a month)... Phone bills, and not to talk of miscellaneous...

After spending a month in the mid-west (which is far cheaper than NY, Cali and co) my eye open o.
Lol.

After all the expenses, who will want to pay tithe? Most people don't. Cos the money isnt even enough. Just a few dole out that 10% .

I don't know how much you earn per month, but just compare yourself to 'lucky' graduates in Nigeria who earn ₦100k per month. Can you survive on such a salary if you live and work in Ikoyi? Yet Ikoyi can't compare to most American cities in terms of infrastructure and social amenities.

Iblad0994:

Sometimes Nigerians amaze me , when I first got here a lot of companies came to my school searching for who to employ and they are big companies . You don’t need to compare USA to naija , they are two different world for God sake. I’m not saying every Nigerian here are made men but at least majority of people living here legally with certificate are big boys.
Yes ICT guys and nursing professionals are making a lot of money here in USA . If you have a degree in any ICT field and have your papers , you’re a big boy and you can never be compared to even a bank manager in Nigeria because you’ll earn far far more than the bank manager is earning

Even ICT guys in Nigeria can rake in $10,000 Monthly and $120k Per year if the work is done right, doesn't require being in USA, it's having the knowledge and knowing what do to, the opportunities online are not well harvested by Nigerians. I'm ashamed seeing Indians everywhere and Nigerians are busy submitting CV, walking upandan when there are chances to rake in cash