teflonjake:



Who's the FBI where the CIA stands?

The CIA has a higher security clearance, so don't bother arguing.

It's not about security clearance. The FBI is the policing agency of the CIA. They keep them in check. And can investigate them, leading to prosecution.

Campusity:
There is nothing wrong in EFCC inviting DSS officials. The Act establishing the EFCC did not exempt any agency or persons from investigation.

That is why it is important to build institutions. No one is above the law.

BUT BUHARI IS ABOVE THE LAW?

Campusity:
There is nothing wrong in EFCC inviting DSS officials. The Act establishing the EFCC did not exempt any agency or persons from investigation.

That is why it is important to build institutions. No one is above the law.

so also the efcc is not exonerated from the DSS for any of its investigation on absolutely any one member of efcc

Campusity:
There is nothing wrong in EFCC inviting DSS officials. The Act establishing the EFCC did not exempt any agency or persons from investigation.

That is why it is important to build institutions. No one is above the law.

God bless you.

Whoever made the comments in the report should be thoroughly prosecute and made to face the full wrought of the law for obstructing justice.

Another thing is that you cannot trust the so called Reporter. The statement can be made up just to sell his story.

Generally speaking, personalizing common/official issues is our number 2 problem in Nigeria. Of course, corruption is number 1.

The DSS is a national security agency while the EFCC is an anti graft agency, the DSS is also empowered to investigate financial crime, if the EFCC feels or has proof DSS officials have committed graft, there are clear cut procedures, ever wondered why the NIA case was closed? EFCC should know better if the said report is true, better to have friends than make enemies of sister agencies, might hurt u in the future esp on info sharing

FarahAideed:
Buhari cant even unify two agencies working directly under him yet we expect him to unify Nigeria ..Buhari is so divisive it shows amongst his agencies

to me Buhari is like a stone. He is lifeless.

toplad97:


It's not about security clearance. The FBI is the policing agency of the CIA. They keep them in check. And can investigate them, leading to prosecution.

Wrong pls....

There's a big wegde btwn both agencies.
Cia is foreign
Fbi is local.

Infact it's the CIA who sometimes perform oversight functions on the FBI.

teflonjake:



Who's the FBI where the CIA stands?

The CIA has a higher security clearance, so don't bother arguing.

U r totally wrong, the FBI is still the most revered agency in the usa, the CIA operatives are not even allowed to carry any fireman in the us soil or carry out any espionage against any us citizen or investigation.
The cia only has a upper hand when it comes to clandestine activities and black ops
And yes the FBI can investigate any Cia agent

Dagaya:
9ja which way...everywhere u look chaos.
Is there nothing good to come out of 9ja since bubu took over?
I dun tire.
Now its agency fighting agency.
Tomorrow APC fighting PDP.
Next tomorrow Igbo fighting Hausa/Yoruba
Other days, Fulani herdsmen, boko boys n militants.
Nigeria is at war with itself and the truth is Nigeria is loosing badly.
Nigeria which way my country.

Bible says when the wicked leads, there will be seriouse out cry

fyneguy:
If financial crimes were allegedly committed by DSS, EFCC has the mandate to investigate and bring culprits to justice!

I totally agree with you but another way to do it is to furnish the DSS with details of the crimes committed and let them investigate after which they will decide whether to take action on their own or hand over the officials. I assure you that no agency will cover up for officials who have crossed the red line.

Where is that sycophant called gravelslum abi na gavelslam.......

lordyugo:


U r totally wrong, the FBI is still the most revered agency in the usa, the CIA operatives are not even allowed to carry any fireman in the us soil or carry out any espionage against any us citizen or investigation.
The cia only has a upper hand when it comes to clandestine activities and black ops
And yes the FBI can investigate any Cia agent

The CIA's mean duty is espionage (be you a us citizen/alien) once d red flag is alerted they will follow you.

Pls and please forget what u see in d movies. CIA operatives carry arms everywhere except then they are going to the white house or any sister agency then they have to drop arms before entering if not on special duty.

teflonjake:



Wrong pls....

There's a big wegde btwn both agencies.
Cia is foreign
Fbi is local.

Infact it's the CIA who sometimes perform oversight functions on the FBI.

My point exactly. The CIA is a foreign intelligence service. There's a legal prohibition on activities in America. That's the FBI's primary domain. They're more or less the Federal Police. They can investigate the CIA if they operate on American soil and American citizens unlawfully. If they have to, they'd need legal oversight of the FBI. If the CIA breaks American laws abroad,perhaps for torture, they can be investigated by the FBI. CIA are a swashbuckling agency. The FBI are the moral ones. They even investigate the NSA.

toplad97:


My point exactly. The CIA is a foreign intelligence service. There's a legal prohibition on activities in America. That's the FBI's primary domain. They're more or less the Federal Police. They can investigate the CIA if they operate on American soil and American citizens unlawfully. If they have to, they'd need legal oversight of the FBI. If the CIA breaks American laws abroad,perhaps for torture, they can be investigated by the FBI. CIA are a swashbuckling agency. The FBI are the moral ones. They even investigate the NSA.

FBI d moral ones indeed

Ibeg who dey investigate d Nigeria police?

NwaAmaikpe:



Haba, na wa for EFCC oooo

Even Jeffrey Archer knows there is honor among thieves

espirit de corps!!!

This is the only time you've surprised me...

teflonjake:


The CIA's mean duty is espionage (be you a us citizen/alien) once d red flag is alerted they will follow you.

Pls and please forget what u see in d movies. CIA operatives carry arms everywhere except then they are going to the white house or any sister agency then they have to drop arms before entering if not on special duty.

Its not bout movies, its the law .
Its illegal for any CIA operations within the usa and also the use of fire arms.
No doubt they engage in clandestine activities against us citizens residing in the usa illegally but the mandate is with the fbi to gather intel against any us citizen within the usa,investigate and prosecute likewise the homeland security
the cia mandate is intelligence and counter intelligence against foreign threats through espionage outside the usa

teflonjake:


FBI d moral ones indeed
Ibeg who dey investigate d Nigeria police?

Biko go and watch film. I'm tired of educating you

No institution of government is above the law. This thread is dry because Nigerians who are used to insulting one another are scared to say a thing here where it ought to matter most that the DSS should at least respect the EFCC which is constituted by law.

This is quite absurd. I wonder why the President May direct on this matter.

toplad97:


Biko go and watch film. I'm tired of educating you

Finish the education na

Who dey investigate d Nigeria police?

Pls are we sure the president is not mentally challenged?
How can there be a president and everybody in office is just behaving anyway they want,law unto themselves?
I havent witnessed this type before o!

Everything has a cause and motive. I can not just defend EFCC or DSS based on what is said above there, listen every agency in nigeria has its area of jurisdiction, EFCC can not just invite the members of DSS if the law did not understand their power over another or to do so, i will therefore refer the executive, legislature and judiciary to intervene in this area to clear off the dust, let their power be known. Thanks

This bickering should cease immediately, haba!. This agencies should learn to only employ professionals, instead we are saddled with this current mofos who got employed on the alter of nepotism and sectionalism. Just negedu.

Hmmmm honored among thieves one interesting novel ... have you seen prison diary by same author ?it's cool too

Cabals loyalists in action.

And If financial crimes were allegedly committed by EFCC, who then has the mandate to investigate and bring culprits to justice? Remember Magu is still acting even when the senate has rejected him severally based on the letter on alleged corruption by the same DSS. This thing can only happen in Nigeria.....

fyneguy:
If financial crimes were allegedly committed by DSS, EFCC has the mandate to investigate and bring culprits to justice!

toplad97:


My point exactly. The CIA is a foreign intelligence service. There's a legal prohibition on activities in America. That's the FBI's primary domain. They're more or less the Federal Police. They can investigate the CIA if they operate on American soil and American citizens unlawfully. If they have to, they'd need legal oversight of the FBI. If the CIA breaks American laws abroad,perhaps for torture, they can be investigated by the FBI. CIA are a swashbuckling agency. The FBI are the moral ones. They even investigate the NSA.

Leave CIA and FBI matters to US citizens to discuss, not the same law and act they were formed with EFCC and DSS. You people should stop comparing this zoo to the develop countries.

Developing countries citizens don't exchanges their votes with 5000k campaigns fees and campaigns foods stuffs from their corrupt and incompetent politicians/government officials during elections.

Make una wise up.

Daura loyalists Vs Magu loyalists Referee: Buhari

Almaheed:
our institutions are dead, do we even have institutions? this is an indication of the fish begins to stink from the head, I was fooled by the anti corruption slogan of this misplaced government during election now look at what we have now. it's a shame on every Nigerian to have this sets of fools at the helms of affairs.

Seems u are one of those who wanted "change", well now u have it.

lilfreezy:
so FBI cannot question CIA again

go and watch the film blind spot, then you will know CIA has more power and authority than FBI..

teflonjake:



Who's the FBI where the CIA stands?

The CIA has a higher security clearance, so don't bother arguing.

You are obviously not well informed about the operations of these agencies.

Who is talking about security clearance??

Both agencies have their own clearance level that may not be made available to the other party except on special request.

FBI has the mandate for internal operations and can bully the CIA on anything that has to do with Federal crimes. They also have a prosecuting power.

The CIA is only saddled with foreign operations and does not have a mandate for internal security.

If a crime is committed by any CIA agent, the FBI would bust their asses to pieces.

CRIMINAL LAW
Roles of the CIA and FBI

https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/criminal-law-basics/federal-protectors-roles-of-the-cia-and-the-fbi.html



The missions of both the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) are to protect national security, but their roles are different. The CIA collects and analyzes foreign intelligence to assist the President (and other top government officials) make informed decisions on national security. The FBI, on the other hand, is the nation’s top federal law enforcement agency. Among other duties, the FBI investigates and seeks to prevent acts of domestic and international terrorism. The FBI has both intelligence and investigative duties.

What Does the CIA Do?

The CIA is an independent agency that collects, analyzes, and disseminates foreign intelligence information to top U.S. government officials. The CIA does not make policy decisions or recommendations.

Instead, its role is to report intelligence information that is objective and free from political bias. The President and other agencies (such as the State Department and Department of Defense) assess this information to make policy decisions on national security

What the CIA Doesn’t Do?

Federal law prohibits the CIA from collecting information on “U.S. Persons,” which includes U.S. citizens, resident aliens, legal immigrants, and U.S. corporations. The CIA collects intelligence information only on foreign countries and their citizens. And, unlike the FBI, the CIA does not have arrest powers. But the two agencies cooperate on many issues, such as counterintelligence and threats to national security.

What Does the FBI Do?

The FBI is the nation’s lead federal law enforcement agency. It has broad authority to investigate:

acts of terrorism (domestic and international)
attacks involving weapons of mass destruction
attacks on U.S. officials, and
other terrorism-related offenses.
Additionally, the FBI has divisions devoted to combatting other federal law violations, including cyber-crime, public corruption, civil rights violations, organized crime, white-collar crime, and gang and drug crimes. The arrest powers of FBI agents are broad—extending to violations of federal law committed anywhere in the U.S. or its territories. (The FBI turns over evidence of federal crimes to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.)

In an effort to combat crime nationwide, the FBI coordinates with local, state, and other federal law enforcement agencies in investigations and joint task forces. The FBI also assists these agencies with cooperative services, such as fingerprint identification, laboratory services, and training.

https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/criminal-law-basics/federal-protectors-roles-of-the-cia-and-the-fbi.html

Campusity:
There is nothing wrong in EFCC inviting DSS officials. The Act establishing the EFCC did not exempt any agency or persons from investigation.

That is why it is important to build institutions. No one is above the law.

Bro there is everything wrong in investigating the DSS as it will expose undercover agents working both in Nigeria and abroad. The DSS do not have a conventional mode of funding known to the public and there mode of funding should not be investigated because it has the tendency of burning DSS assets. So pls for the security of our there nation, we should not allow overzealousness bring about our undoing.

teflonjake:



Wrong pls....

There's a big wegde btwn both agencies.
Cia is foreign
Fbi is local.

Infact it's the CIA who sometimes perform oversight functions on the FBI.

"The CIA performs oversight function on the FBI?? "

You got this one mixed up, maybe you meant it the other way round. How can you carry out oversight function on a Home based agency when the law only permits you for overseas operations?