Authoreety:
Ds freeze is a psycho....


he should stop fooling himself.
Wetin concern am with how people use their money na...

Am with freeze ... You know what they are cajoled lambasted to give tithe else judgement but freeze is questioning the status quo to show facts which they are busy fretting upandan.

This is the result if freeze convinces more to stop tithe under duress, how the tithe pastors will be

DeSepiero:

He backed his opinion with his Bible quotes you feel its irresponsible. You backed yours with nothing, now yours is a complete jabberwocky.

The emphasis should not be based on the arithmetic or percentage. The emphasis in on ONE'S personal choice. The reference he gave there does not in any way correlate with what is being said. Is it indecent to give more of what you earn to your God? Or do we see disorderliness by that act?

Lalas247:

yes thanks

welcome gorgeous

even if he pays 100% as tithe whose still control the account i guess he is.. So what are we saying.

hamilton62:

Just because you have decided to do things the way it is stated and it doesn't mean that people with more zeal for providence don't exist...
Tithing is 10% but within you and a purpose can go on a ratio above... I don't pay 10% because it is too poor being that i want extra-ordinary grace for providence though i know the recommended is 10%...
We all can't do same and want or need same magnitude of providence.

sheeple who think his blessing comes from his tithes.

Mac2016:
Confused OAP...like a newspaper is now the scriptures. I tot the book of Malachi was clear on tithe... Why all these confusionists and attention seekers mauling "tithes".
Freeze should do other things for popularity and stop pandering to aggrieved tithe payers' emotions. Your anger on how many offerings including tithes are supposedly being expended on luxuries by some pastors at the expense of dying church goers may be justified but who are you to judge. Nobody is forcing tithe on anyone... You may package yours and deliver it straight to God if you find that necessary. Foolish Freeze

Jesus speaking below...

Matthew 23:23 New Living Translation (NLT)

23 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens,[a] but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

Jesus has said it himself that you should tithe...Argue with Jesus now and not me, lovers of heresy

Nowaday, are tailoring religion to meet their taste thru distorted, wrong scriptural interpretation.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6

so other books of the Bible that talked about tithe are not ok abi

who will he pay the 30% to

to his own church or to his own pocket

I just weak.

Authoreety:
My guy, its not ur money... let him pay whatever suits him as his tithe... E no concern u ooooooo...

ericmani:
Now dis is the first time i'm commenting on dis issue..this is to know that the world is really coming to an end because now everybody is turning against the church, trying to mislead christains, those that wants to be misled anyway.
When there was no money in the church they call the christains "church rat" now there is money in the church they say the pastors are scam..how can u preach about God when the word of God is not manifesting in ur life, or u tink pastors should be poor because they are called pastors right? Mind u most of this people kicking against tithe are the ones that don't pay and now are looking for a reason to justify their act..is it only in Nigeria they pay tithe, why criticising the Nigerian pastors? The word of God is strongly working for these men, if u don't appreciate them others will..check their churches and u will see even white people from all over the world, that tells u people believe in their message. same thing happened with Jesus, they never believed him in his own land..whether u like it or not the Gospel must move on that's the plain truth.

Simple questions and will appreciate it if you can answer them on a post card




Why are most pastors from Nigeria?
Why are the richest pastors from Nigeria?
Why does pastor quite Malachi to collect tithe and ignore the other negatives from the same O.T?
Isn't offering and seeds et al enough to run churches?
Aren't Catholic, Anglican et al also christains, how do hey run their own churches?
Do you expect Freeze and all to criticize pastors in other countries when they aren't there and no little to nothing about them?
Is God a Nigerian or uses a Naija sim card that all his calls are always connecting to Nigeria?

Pls kindly answer these questions

30% when even the 10% is a deliberate wrong! Criminals in the name of God!

opribo:


You are missing the point bro.

Some people were born deformed from birth, some misfortune fell on them along the journey of life, not their making its just destiny. As christians we are encouraged to help them the needy and homeless and all. I am not talking of a known lazy person or never do well. Look around you and search your conscience you will see people you can lend a helping hand to. Dont show mercy to be recognised or praised or seen to be a philanthropist or a generous giver. NO, rather do it out of love, do it because you derive inner joy and peace. I tell you when you help a truly needy person from your heart and the person prays for you, God listens to those kinds of prayers.

One Thing I have noticed with some of these mega donors in the church is that even their source of money is not pure they feel they can buy redemption by the amount of money they donate and the wicked pastors dont care, just bring it. It is a vicious circle indeed and they know it. Some will steal bank money and bring it to church they will make them deacons and deaconesses, some will bring drug money they will collect and make them chairman of committee and leaders of church.

The truth is that many of the new generation churches have turned to some sort of magician house where the money money you bring in the more money you get by way of deceit.
That is why they hardly preach salvation of the soul rather they will preach prosperity, they cannot tell the bitter truth rather they tell you the message that is sweet to the ear. Just look at the way they dress in the churches, look at the wickedness that some of they do to their fellow brethren, look at the things that happen therein and tell me in all honesty if God is still there or they are just doing their thing and using our precious Jesus to cover up. Lest you forget, the book of Mathew 24:11 says that 'And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many'

That is why we were warned in the book Mathew 7:15 'Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves' to beware of them and remain steadfast in our belief in God through Jesus Christ. Go on your knees and pray as Jesus taught us in the Bible and make your request known, once you have a penitent heart God will answer you. You dont need no sweet talker to sweet talk you, God is there for all of us. Your going to church is not a social gathering for connection or job seeking or to find a wife, it is to worship God with other believers and your offerings to support the church not a tithe that is demanded under duress by pastors. I learnt some even have registers to know those who have not paid their tithes, can you imagine that, keeping a record on a monthly basis those who pay tithe and those who dont.

Little wonder then why the encourage their members to connect their other members for job, the reason is so that the tithe money will continue to flow and the day you dare to stop paying that tithe they ensure the same way you joined the company is the same way you leave.

You are very correct. They are people around us who really needs help.

SageTravels:


what makes it not Biblical. can you show me where God said we should not tithe

If you can kindly follow the thread to the end you'll see where I answered it.

Thank you.

PointZerom:



A Christian does not encourage BABY MAMA. Pls be guided.

and a real christain don't divorce like pastor chris. pls be guided.

http://411tithesofferings.411-cashflow.com/Malachi3Mis-Interpreted.html


If Tithes must be collected at all by you and you want to follow the law .. and the instructions given to the Levites on what to do with it . then it has to be done properly a according to Gods instructions in the law... and the tithes has to be holy and no partiality must be attached to it.

You cannot just collect tithes and not observe or bin the laws or instructions , the specific years mention in relation to it and feast attached to it.

you cannot collect tithes and leave the admonishment of tithes out .. it goes together ..God is not mocked..

Instructions on what to do with the Tithes

Deuteronomy 26:12-13, where God said to them… "12 When you have finished laying aside all the tithe of your increase in the third year--the year of tithing--and have given it to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, so that they may eat within your gates and be filled, 13 then you shall say before the LORD your God: "I have removed the holy tithe from my house, and also have given them to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed Your commandments, nor have I forgotten them""

[b]The Levites were commanded to receive tithes and offerings from the people; however, in the third year they were to share this tithe given to them by those who had livestock and land to tithe on with "the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow". In Malachi 3, these "sons of Levi" were not during this because they did not fear God[/b].The below listed Scriptures tell us what most of the ministers today are about - these are the tele-evangelists, the super-ministers, and the mega-church ministers who believe building bigger churches are more important than taking care of the needs of the widows and the poor and needy in their community.

Notice, the Holy Spirit through the apostle Paul says, "many" not a few ministers are peddling God's word for profit from your "tithes and offerings"

2 Corinthians 2:17... "For we are not, as so many, peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ."
Here again in Jude 1, the Scripture points us to those who "run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit". They live in mansions and very costly temples while claiming to serve God and His Christ Jesus. Many of you know these super ministers and their up and coming students of their greed (see Rev. 2:14).

Jude 1:11... "Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah."

These priests said to the people, "the Lord’s table is contemptible"(v. 7) causing the "whole nation" to be cursed because of their evil deeds (Malachi 3:9); this gives us further Scripture proof that it were the priests and not, I repeat not the people who God is talking about in Malachi 3. Because only the priests sins brought sin on the nation, the sins of the people were atoned for by the priests; therefore, it was not possible for the people not tithing to bring a curse on the whole nation. So, I say to you today where these self-appointed gospel peddlers claim the people were robbing God - its not the people but the Levites and the priests who were robbing God - read it for yourself. This makes Malachi a prophecy for these same ministers who claim the right of extracting "tithes and offerings" from you because they are during the same thing these "sons of Levi" were doing; and that is keeping the better part of your money for themselves and their pet projects.

Now, when we move to Malachi chapter two we see God is still speaking to the priests and not the people as so many Christians have been led to believe by their leaders, these money lovers and self-proclaimed "tithes and offerings" collectors who have declared themselves to be God. For they say to those who they demand money from, that if you don't give to them you are robbing God. Thereby, claiming if you want to give to God then you must give to them and no one else.

Malachi 2:1-9... Admonition for the Priests


Feel free to read on....http://411tithesofferings.411-cashflow.com/Malachi3Mis-Interpreted.html

IsaacBuchi:


Shey you know dey hear word

Mark the difference: Christians and Jews.

Christians are no longer under the Jewish law.

Tithe was an observation under the Jewish law for the sake of the priestly duties in the temple, but since the temple and it duties no longer exist, that was abolished when Jesus who came with a spiritual priesthood arrived.

Simple and straight to the point... this will just make our pastorpreneur much sadder.

gnykelly:

and a real christain don't divorce like pastor chris. pls be guided.

Lame argument. You only admitted that your daddy freeze is fake.

PointZerom:



Lame argument. You only admitted that your daddy freeze is fake.

A real Christian shouldn't divorce his spouse. Jesus Christ discouraged divorce. Please be advised.

PointZerom:




Maybe we should not obey the ten commandments given to Israelites b'cos we're not Israelites. The Deut you quoted was an instruction to a particular people at a particular occasion. My question to you is those workers employed by the church, widows, orphans that are on scholarships, where will the church bring the money for their welfare?..... Pls don't quote me if you cannot give answers to my questions.

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Everyone is willing to support the church in one way or the other, but isn't it better when the people does such with a willing heart. It might not happen in ur church but do u know hw many are being swindled out of their hard earned cash all in the name of tithe. Bro i honestly get ur point but I'm only supporting Freeze in this regard because i want a lot of Nigerians being constantly duped to learn. U might nt know the severity of this matter. A lot of Pastors are so wicked to the point that in the name of tithe, they convince their members to leave their dying child for prayers and instead pay tithe with money meant for the hospital. Just knw that not everyone is as exposed as u are.

oyepaulkay:
who will he pay the 30% to

to his own church or to his own pocket

I just weak.

Most great pastors pay their tithes to ministries they want to sow into... especially ministries they see as mentor ministries

Mac2016:
Confused OAP...like a newspaper is now the scriptures. I tot the book of Malachi was clear on tithe... Why all these confusionists and attention seekers mauling "tithes".
Freeze should do other things for popularity and stop pandering to aggrieved tithe payers' emotions. Your anger on how many offerings including tithes are supposedly being expended on luxuries by some pastors at the expense of dying church goers may be justified but who are you to judge. Nobody is forcing tithe on anyone... You may package yours and deliver it straight to God if you find that necessary. Foolish Freeze

Jesus speaking below...

Matthew 23:23 New Living Translation (NLT)

23 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens,[a] but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

Jesus has said it himself that you should tithe...Argue with Jesus now and not me, lovers of heresy

Nowaday, people are tailoring
religion to meet their taste thru distorted, wrong scriptural interpretation.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6

I suspect that you are a pastor
freeze wants to spoil business for us. don't mind him jare

bionixs:
[s]thank God it is coming from. Never in your whole life say anything about tithe you don't pay. for the fornication you spoke for ,just check how many likes and shares you got already. it means that we have a situation at hand. Tithe is by choice. All fornicators(not tithe payers or non payers) will go to hell because you defile your body,hard truth. After shamelessly sleeping with girls and women who are not their legally married wives,would come here talking tithe. fornication and tithe, which is more serious as as Christians and even Muslims? stop pursuing shadows[/s] .

Another trash!
Its obviously easier to fool a dummy than to convince him that he has just been fooled.
Suleiman is legally married to Otobo and Daniella abi? Bloody hypocrites!!

Your mind is lost in total darkness with no atom of light to cast shadows from any sense.

DeSepiero:


Another trash!
Its obviously easier to fool a dummy than to convince him that he has just been fooled.
Suleiman is legally married to Otobo and Daniella abi? Bloody hypocrites!!

Your mind is lost in total darkness with no atom of light to cast shadows from any sense.

that Suleiman case could be another curse on your life as you are not sure it happened. Media trial has so much eaten deep into the lives of your likes that you dont know your bounds . keep heaping curses. I know you are finished when your ministry has turned to tarnishing the image of the church as if the pastors are the ones you voted for.

The increase is an attempt to deceive gullible Nigerian's. It's obvious Christianity is now a fraud. God bless daddy freeze

hamilton62:

Just because you have decided to do things the way it is stated and it doesn't mean that people with more zeal for providence don't exist...
Tithing is 10% but within you and a purpose can go on a ratio above... I don't pay 10% because it is too poor being that i want extra-ordinary grace for providence though i know the recommended is 10%...
We all can't do same and want or need same magnitude of providence.

how much do u normally give to a begger or a poor neighbor monthly?? When u put it in check u will do as God commands and then find infinite grace in helping people that cannot pay u back, stop being too zealous in God's commands, u owe ur excessive wealth to God and ur society, '' do something kind'' and see which one pours down more grace... I am with God on this arguement.. Not with freeze and definetly not with Suleman and any other man of God.. Stay blessed brethen..

educonsultant:

I suspect that you are a pastor
freeze wants to spoil business for us. don't mind him jare

lol. I am far from being a pastor. I just know the truth!

oyepaulkay:
who will he pay the 30% to

to his own church or to his own pocket

I just weak.

Most great men of God pay tithe 2 mentor churches they feel they wanna sow into...


Hope that settles it?

Mac2016:
Confused OAP...like a newspaper is now the scriptures. I tot the book of Malachi was clear on tithe... Why all these confusionists and attention seekers mauling "tithes".
Freeze should do other things for popularity and stop pandering to aggrieved tithe payers' emotions. Your anger on how many offerings including tithes are supposedly being expended on luxuries by some pastors at the expense of dying church goers may be justified but who are you to judge. Nobody is forcing tithe on anyone... You may package yours and deliver it straight to God if you find that necessary. Foolish Freeze

Jesus speaking below...

Matthew 23:23 New Living Translation (NLT)

23 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens,[a] but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

Jesus has said it himself that you should tithe...Argue with Jesus now and not me, lovers of heresy

Nowaday, people are tailoring religion to meet their taste thru distorted, wrong scriptural interpretation.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6

Aiight o

Eyanmukaila:


you are the psycho, no hard feeling. in fact, your level of reasoning is beneath your feet.

I forgive u

Damoche10:


I just found out that you are a re**tard. You should tithe....But is it that way tithes are to be collected? Basket headed mumu

Your attitude can only exceed itself

ossuofia1:


A real Christian shouldn't divorce his spouse. Jesus Christ discouraged divorce. Please be advised.

Did Pastor Chris divorce his wife or the wife decided to leave. There's diff. btw divorce and separation.Take note

Mac2016:

Your attitude can only exceed itself

Retracted my statement. Thanks for making me realize that.

The Sheeples will be happy he has increased his tithe from to 10% to 30% forgetting the money, both the sheeple's and his will still be his own at the end. Na to encourage sheeples to mumu-ishly think he is even more faithful to tithe now, they should copy him.

PointZerom:



Did Pastor Chris divorce his wife or the wife decided to leave. There's diff. btw divorce and separation.Take note

His wife accused him of so many things, one of which is infidelity! If she didn't see she wouldn't say