ProudToBeAZombie:
Seeing that Igala thread on FP today, i am force to believe Yoruba, Ibo, and Bini have shared something in common during ancient times.


I just don't know if we are somehow connected, do you have any suggestions, researches, books regarding this topic?

Opiletool:


How can it be true? The title of their kings was not oba until the arrival of oranyan at their place. Yoruba already have the oba word existing in the yoruba names and lexicon since forever. The likes of obatala, obalufon, obaluaye which are among the leaders of the so called 14 clans in ife before the decision to unite them under one king, which began the power tussle between oduduwa and obatala. So how was it theirs? They should give proof of how the word was theirs.

historyworld030:
Forget the mythological figures and focus on historical records.
Why do you find it hard to imagine that some people would want to copy the super power of their region ?
Did Dahomey not rename itself after the Benin Kingdom ?
This is hiw powerful the Benin Kingdom was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IlUMUGUorw
https://www.britishmuseum.org/PDF/british_museum_benin_art.pdf

Opiletool:


Kindly get off my mention pls.

historyworld030:
Some people hate the truth.
Why do you hate the truth ?
Why must you sustain your delusion ?

ProudToBeAZombie:
Do you have prove to backup these claims?


What about the Okuns in Ekiti/Kogi/Kwara? coz i'm one of them.

PrinceOgun:
FOR THE BENIFIT OF OTHER TRIBES HERE!!....... WE EDOS AND THE PEOPLE THE HAUSAS AND GAMBARI CALL YORUBAS HAVE NO BUSINESS OR KINSHIP TOGETHER OTHER THAN OUR PRINCE IZODUWA WE GAVE THEM ..THEY CALL ODUDUWA

ProudToBeAZombie:
PrinceOgun, before you came we were having a peaceful discussion and i'll like it to continue that way. Btw some edo still name their children Yoruba name.

PrinceOgun:
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I know your type.

Loud, lousy, arrogant, incoherent, low IQ, partial education, eager to vent, etc.

Look at the quality of the tone of discussion on this thread up until you ventured in, then compare and contrast with your unverified, uncultured outburst.

See the difference?

You are not doing Edo people any good. They'd be ashamed of you.


[s]Don't kid yourself the feeling is mutual amongst all Edo's![/s]

ProudToBeAZombie:
PrinceOgun, before you came we were having a peaceful discussion and i'll like it to continue that way. Btw some edo still name their children Yoruba name.

PrinceOgun:


What stupid names?


Let's hear dem, don't just talk rubbish...

You come hear talking rubbish about what you know nothing about , so now the few akoko Edo settlement at the outskirts of Edo State who refused to join their kit and kin in ondo state are the ones you are reffering!

Smh , you better start getting articulate in your reasoning!!

Like I said I get una time for this thread!

historyworld030:
It could also be said that it is the yoruba whom are giving their children Edo names.
It is incredible how you guys manange to be so one sided in your thoughts.

ProudToBeAZombie:
If you continue with insults, i'll leave this thread for you. I'm not forcing you to believe this but there is a pure Edo woman who lives close to my house, i know her mum and i can testify that their language are not related to Yoruba. She got married to an Hausa man last year and she gave birth to her first daughter this year.


During the naming ceremony; christian, Yoruba, Edo names were given to her daughter. I confronted her mum and asked why, her mum said that's how Yoruba names are given at their village even though they ain't Yoruba.

ProudToBeAZombie:
If you continue with insults, i'll leave this thread for you. I'm not forcing you to believe this but there is a pure Edo woman who lives close to my house, i know her mum and i can testify that their language are not related to Yoruba. She got married to an Hausa man last year and she gave birth to her first daughter this year.


During the naming ceremony; christian, Yoruba, Edo names were given to her daughter. I confronted her mum and asked why, her mum said that's how Yoruba names are given at their village even though they ain't Yoruba.

ProudToBeAZombie:
If you continue with insults, i'll leave this thread for you. I'm not forcing you to believe this but there is a pure Edo woman who lives close to my house, i know her mum and i can testify that their language are not related to Yoruba. She got married to an Hausa man last year and she gave birth to her first daughter this year.


During the naming ceremony; christian, Yoruba, Edo names were given to her daughter. I confronted her mum and asked why, her mum said that's how Yoruba names are given at their village even though they ain't Yoruba.

historyworld030:
Just imagine the arrogance of the yoruba, going to extent of acting as if they were the costodians of Edo culture.

ProudToBeAZombie:
PrinceOgun and the other guy, like i said who am i to force my opinion on you?


History can never be change just because we are ashame.


My tribe was invaded by the Nupes but that does not mean my tribe still pay tribute to Bida.


Let history be history and let us face the future because there is no point argueing what will still bring division amongst us.


My uncle before his death wrote my family history, in that book my great-grandfather was one of the greatest personality in the history of Yagba people yet was taken into exile by the Nupes but does that mean i should hold grudges against the Nupes? We have okuns in Niger state due to the Okun-Nupe war yet they still live in peace.


History is History, let the future be our glory.

ProudToBeAZombie:
PrinceOgun and the other guy, like i said who am i to force my opinion on you?


History can never be change just because we are ashame.


My tribe was invaded by the Nupes but that does not mean my tribe still pay tribute to Bida.


Let history be history and let us face the future because there is no point argueing what will still bring division amongst us.


My uncle before his death wrote my family history, in that book my great-grandfather was one of the greatest personality in the history of Yagba people yet was taken into exile by the Nupes but does that mean i should hold grudges against the Nupes? We have okuns in Niger state due to the Okun-Nupe war yet they still live in peace.


History is History, let the future be our glory.

Diiet:
this is yoruba side of the history of the title OBA, they also have their own version which they strongly believe to be the truth. They believe ''kabiyesi'' is the original title of a king in yorubaland before we adopted OBA from them. Na their mouth the whole thing sweet jare.

olawalepopoola:

If Oba of Benin can openly deny it we will agree. It is because of politics that they are claiming that. The real historians of the Benin know this. Ask yourself why the use of the title "Oba".

Diiet:
i used to think just like this before but never again will i deceive myself that there is special bond of love between Edo and yorubas.
The division is not from us but from them, and since they've chosen new identity for themselves (especailly their youths on this forum) we have no reason calling them our brothers or saying we are same lest they start suspecting us or thinking they are special. Just slight difference between them and igbo in terms of suspicion and hatred for yoruba.
Did you even see the interview one of their elders, Ajayi bembe granted to punch newspaper last week concerning lagos? If you've not seen it pls do so quickly and tell me why we should keep believing yorubas and Edo are same.

proudlyYoruba:
The ones on this forum are nonentities, the important ones are the royals. They are custodians of the culture and laws and they know our connection even though they have a new identity. Àjàyí was just rambling, his Awori assertion proved he doesn't know what he is saying. He claimed and he is not Yorùbá, if you aren't an Awori you are not Yorùbá if you are then you are Yorùbá. Just because we ruled Dahomey doesn't make it our very own land

PrinceOgun:


I presume you are Igbo, so now because I met an anambra man bearing Okon or Effiong is that enough to say Igbo's are Efik.... Or the other day one of the aspirants of the just concluded anambra election bears Osekola is that enough to say he is and Edo man?.. Even if that is clearly an Edo name!

Like I said earlier get Articulate in your reasoning!

Basic123:

How?


how did ogiso changed to "oba"?

Those guys self!