@TherWasACountry

Thanks for the information.

We learns everyday.

But to me hmmm hmmm.

Na Jew ohhh which is Israel

It is funny that the president of a country that is less than 300 years old decides who Jerusalem belongs to. If Jerusalem belongs to the Jews because their ancestors come from there - according to the Bible - then North America belongs to Native Americans and not any other people who descended from Europe.

Mindfulness:
It is funny that the president of a country that is less than 300 years old decides who Jerusalem belongs to. If Jerusalem belongs to the Jews because their ancestors come from there - according to the Bible - then North America belongs to Native Americans and not any other people who descended from Europe.

Blessing Follow you

samebony1:


Israel is not talking about two state solution but the International community that is supporting the Palestine.
Russia could not defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan, because US was supported the Taliban with weapon and other logistics. US was afraid that if Russia gain access to a warm water port, they will be able to spread their communist ideology farther and thereby undermine US interest in the South Pacific and Eastern Africa.

Israel defeated a coalition of Arabs in the Six Day War, also known as the June War, 1967 Arab–Israeli War. The Arabs were also spanked in the Yom Kippur War 1973, not to talk of the 1948 war, when a vey young Israeli nation defeated a coalition of many Arab nations. Israel can not be defeated by any Arab nation(s)

Be deceiving urself, did u think that Palestinian attack Isrealites, or u think that 6 days war u ar talking is with all Arab nations, it is only with Jordan.
America 9/11 event is 24/7 event in Palestin

TherWasACountry:
Depends on where u want to trace it from.

Jews claim of Jerusalem started with Abraham. Before Abram, it was owned by Jebusites - ancient tribes whose origins are unclear but thought to be from what is present day Iraq, Syria and Jordan. Abram himself was a native of Ur, a place close to Babylon or present day Iraq. The rest is history as u have enumerated.

It is not clear how directly Palestinians are related to the original Jebusites but what is well known is that they are descendants of the Philistines whose main domain were Gath, Gaza, Ekron, Ashteroth (indeed, Gaza strip still exists under Palestinian Hamas control).

From Abraham to Moses, Joshua and Caleb (the battle of Hebron), Jews conquered the land and occupied it. BUT! They dint completely annihilate the original inhabitants, and therefore mixed up with them. All through David and Solomon, the Kings and the Prophets, Judaism became instituted in the land (before now, the land had been fetish). Massive temples, synagogues, walls (today's Jewish holy sites) were built.

At AD 70, Emperor Nero scattered the Jews all over the world. References to this are found in the Book of Daniel. The Romans ran the show for centuries until Constantine who heavily brought the Christians (through Catholics) back into the picture (since Christ and the Apostles). Numerous ancient relics were collected - parts of the cross, spear of Longinus, veil of Veronica, and some claim the legendary holy grail. And so a second contender entered d show - Christians - also claiming Jerusalem as a holy site.

The subsequent reign of the Ottomans introduced widespread Islam. A lot of Jewish sites had been destroyed by the Romans, and so they replaced some with big Mosques like the Al aqsa - Islam's third holiest site, still standing today, and one of the hottest buttons in the contentions. And so the City tumbled from hand to hand until the British came and started sharing land as they always do (just like they shared Nigeria and Africa. They dint start today).

So if u ask me, the land dint belong to either of them. Jebusites owned Jerusalem. But Jews had conquered and taken the land from them, and have been stronger than them till today.

If I were Palestinians, I'd quit fighting for Jerusalem. Today it's the Jews. It's been like that for millennia. People come and go, the land remains. That's wisdom.

God had already Arabs and Palestinians. They'd have twelve tribes and the fatness of the earth. It's waste of time to make their lives about Jerusalem. Let them move on. Leave d Israelis (they can never b more powerful than them) if they don't want to remain in occupation forever. Carve out a territory for themselves, without Jerusalem if necessary. Focus on developing their people and have their fulfilled lives in happiness and peace.

The Yoruba would say Sho ti gbo?

I missed this, I quit reading when I noticed most people based their opinion on religion. As you noted, the Jews had it for a long time, but most recent occupants are the Palestinians.

I think the original plan is better, have two states, and let Jerusalem be neutral, although I don't know how Jerusalem is a holy land for Muslims, heard there is no mention of it in the Koran, if that's true, Jerusalem should go to the jews.

Mindfulness:
It is funny that the president of a country that is less than 300 years old decides who Jerusalem belongs to. If Jerusalem belongs to the Jews because their ancestors come from there - according to the Bible - then North America belongs to Native Americans and not any other people who descended from Europe.

Exactly, if Jews own Israel, then Native Americans own America.
I honestly don't know why both can't come to an agreement. They both don't have any other country, How's were dispersed all over Europe before now, and Palestine don't have any where they can go to, they have been there for almost 500 years, can't even trace where they came from.

censeakay:


Be deceiving urself, did u think that Palestinian attack Isrealites, or u think that 6 days war u ar talking is with all Arab nations, it is only with Jordan.
America 9/11 event is 24/7 event in Palestin

Israel engaged all the Arab countries surrounding it from Syria to egpty to Lebanon to Jordan, Iraq, Iran. Just in a six day war. Since they were all defending Palestinians. Not only Jordan. Its not Jordan Israeli war my friend. Its Arab Israeli war. Get your fact straight.

drakeli:
Israel engaged all the Arab countries surrounding it from Syria to egpty to Lebanon to Jordan, Iraq, Iran. Just in a six day war. Since they were all defending Palestinians. Not only Jordan. Its not Jordan Israeli war my friend. Its Arab Israeli war. Get your fact straight.

Bro it is only Jordan go and search it

censeakay:


Bro it is only Jordan go and search it

no its you that should go and search it. Israel defeated all the surrounding Arab nations put together and occupied Sinai peninsula of Egypt and occupied east Jerusalem and territory east of river Jordan which were then part of Jordan territory. Sinai was returned back to Egypt. East Jerusalem and territory east of river jordan were annexed till today. Its you that should go and research more.

drakeli:
no its you that should go and search it. Israel defeated all the surrounding Arab nations put together and occupied Sinai peninsula of Egypt and occupied east Jerusalem and territory east of river Jordan which were then part of Jordan territory. Sinai was returned back to Egypt. East Jerusalem and territory east of river jordan were annexed till today. Its you that should go and research more.

Lol, am telling u that its only Jordan and Jerusalem that fight the 6 days wars that make Isreal occupy west Jerusalem until now, and if truly they defeat them, y they do not over East Jerusalem Gaza and West Bank.

censeakay:


Lol, am telling u that its only Jordan and Jerusalem that fight the 6 days wars that make Isreal occupy west Jerusalem until now, and if truly they defeat them, y they do not over East Jerusalem Gaza and West Bank.

Since you don't want to research it.

On 15 May 1948 the ongoing civil war transformed into an inter-state conflict between Israel and the Arab states, following the Israeli Declaration of Independence the previous day. A combined invasion by Egypt, Jordan and Syria, together with expeditionary forces from Iraq, entered Palestine – Jordan having declared privately to Yishuv emissaries on 2 May it would abide by a decision not to attack the Jewish state.[13] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements.[14][15][16] The 10 months of fighting, interrupted by several truce periods, took place mostly on the former territory of the British Mandate and for a short time also in the Sinai Peninsula and southern Lebanon.[17]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76NytvQAIs0

samebony1:
The land belongs to the Jews, Israelis if you like. And Jerusalem is their ETERNAL capital.

The Torah is their C of O. I never thought Trump can have my support, until now.

Any body that thinks the Israelis are not entitled to the land is playing with fire and will, most assuredly met with failure.

Israel defeated the Arab coalition in many wars over the years and will continue to beat them, even without the help of USA.

Psalm 137:5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning

The true Jew or Christian can never ever forget or do anything that will work against God's purpose for Jerusalem, which is that the City of David is meant for the descendants of Abraham through Sarah.

See the propaganda installed in an average Christian Nigerian dead brain cells. The nearly century old lies is finally falling apart.. You need to delete what you have in your brains and face reality.. Land belongs to Palestine... The Land of today belongs to Palestine ok.

Even typing one f*olish psalm written by who ?? Can you find it in Ifa ? Or Dibia ??

This is what happens when you follow follow foreign ideology. The land belongs to the Palestine.. The jews meanwhile have no issues with Palestines, it's the zionist r*tarded that is the crook here.. One thing many less informed propagandized brains in Naija dont know about or the difference between the two.

Mindfulness:
It is funny that the president of a country that is less than 300 years old decides who Jerusalem belongs to. If Jerusalem belongs to the Jews because their ancestors come from there - according to the Bible - then North America belongs to Native Americans and not any other people who descended from Europe.

For this brilliant post, I am head-over-heels in love with you.

drakeli:
Since you don't want to research it.

On 15 May 1948 the ongoing civil war transformed into an inter-state conflict between Israel and the Arab states, following the Israeli Declaration of Independence the previous day. A combined invasion by Egypt, Jordan and Syria, together with expeditionary forces from Iraq, entered Palestine – Jordan having declared privately to Yishuv emissaries on 2 May it would abide by a decision not to attack the Jewish state.[13] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements.[14][15][16] The 10 months of fighting, interrupted by several truce periods, took place mostly on the former territory of the British Mandate and for a short time also in the Sinai Peninsula and southern Lebanon.[17]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76NytvQAIs0

See the daylight thief

The question you need to ruminate over and ask yourself is, “who were the previous inhabitants of the land before Islam was founded and before the Romans named the whole region Palestine?” Or do you think Palestine is an Arabic name? The Romans named the whole region Palestine after they drove out the Jews into exile in 70 AD. The so called Palestinians are the real land thieves. Be truthful to yourself. Jews are only taking back what had been theirs for thousands of years before Islam existed and before Arabs moved in.

Nobody has right to any land.

It tumbles from one conqueror to another.

If you claim a land is yours and have enough power/resources to keep it, then it is yours until another person stronger than you pursues you from the land.

My suggestion is they should go to war, anybody that wins take over. After all , that is how Europeans conquered territories and had colonies all over the world.

Mindfulness:
It is funny that the president of a country that is less than 300 years old decides who Jerusalem belongs to. If Jerusalem belongs to the Jews because their ancestors come from there - according to the Bible - then North America belongs to Native Americans and not any other people who descended from Europe.

such nonsense..trump did not decide that Jerusalem be made capital of is real he only recognised it and move us embassy to the location,

censeakay:


Be deceiving urself, did u think that Palestinian attack Isrealites, or u think that 6 days war u ar talking is with all Arab nations, it is only with Jordan.
America 9/11 event is 24/7 event in Palestin

You appear to delight basking in self induced ignorance. Facts about the Six Days War is available on the net for your perusal

Michael004:
Some jews from west Africa.

Hahahaha

scully95:


See the propaganda installed in an average Christian Nigerian dead brain cells. The nearly century old lies is finally falling apart.. You need to delete what you have in your brains and face reality.. Land belongs to Palestine... The Land of today belongs to Palestine ok.

Even typing one f*olish psalm written by who ?? Can you find it in Ifa ? Or Dibia ??

This is what happens when you follow follow foreign ideology. The land belongs to the Palestine.. The jews meanwhile have no issues with Palestines, it's the zionist r*tarded that is the crook here.. One thing many less informed propagandized brains in Naija dont know about or the difference between the two.

If you do not have a far more superior argument to counter my post, methinks, it is would be more honorable for you to just be quiet. or what do you think?

samebony1:


If you do not have a far more superior argument to counter my post, methinks, it is would be more honorable for you to just be quiet. or what do you think?

How can I even be in any argument with someone that is following a foreign ideology (Someone that cant use his brain, oh sorry i forgot it's even dead brain cells) ? A mere paper god. Jerusalem has been Israeli stolen land since 1947. Just how many times is Jerusalem mentioned in the f00lish propagandistic Bible ?? How many times is it mentioned in the manmade Quran either ? Even though both ideology is foreign and it's written by man. Human being..

Ok.. I can't be in an arguement with someone that has no much upstairs except fall for propaganda and massive brainwash. If the brainwash is local, i would even be happy.. But Foreign.. OMG!! Shift let me spit.

samebony1:


You appear to delight basking in self induced ignorance. Facts about the Six Days War is available on the net for your perusal

ok

PaChukwudi44:


lol Isreal has been occupying the whole of Jerusalem since 1967.What planet are you from? Isreal thrashed by heszboilla? You must be dreaming

are you doubting or what? it was a draw but isnt it strange that the so called powerful country couldnt defeat a small group that use rpgs and ak47? israel is overrated. even in the 1940s they won because the arab coalition members were battling themselves.

Leopold Weiss (1900-1992) was an Austrian Jewish intellectual who lived an amazing life as a scholar, one-time spy, warrior and diplomat. His life is a truly fascinating one, and he wrote an autobiography of it entitled, 'The Road to Mecca'. Eventually, he converted to Islam, and adopted the name 'Muhammad Asad'. While it is true that he had some atypical ideas, there is so much to benefit from his insights.

Here, we see a conversation he had with Dr. Chaim Weizmann, the President of the World Zionist Organization, regarding Palestine:

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‘But it is our country,’ replied Dr. Weizmann, raising his eyebrows. ‘We are doing no more than taking back what we have been wrongly deprived of.’

"But you have been away from Palestine for nearly two thousand years! Before that you had ruled this country, and hardly ever the whole of it, for less than five hundred years. Don’t you think that the Arabs could, with equal justification, demand Spain for themselves – for, after all, they held sway in Spain for nearly seven hundred years and lost it entirely only five hundred years ago?"

Dr. Weizmann became visibly impatient: ‘Nonsense. The Arabs had only conquered Spain; it had never been their original homeland, and so it was only right that in the end they were driven out by the Spaniards.’

‘Forgive me,’ I retorted, ‘but it seems to me that there is some historical oversight here. After all, the Hebrews also came as conquerors to Palestine. Long before them were other Semitic and non-Semitic tribes settled here – the Amorites, the Edomites, the Philistines, the Moabites, the Hittites. Those tribes continued living here even in the days of the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. They continued living here after the Romans drove our ancestors away. They are living here today. The Arabs who settled in Syria and Palestine after their conquest in the seventh century were always only a small minority of the population; the rest of what we describe today as Palestinian or Syrian “Arabs” are in reality only the Arabianized, original inhabitants of the country. Some of them became Muslims in the course of centuries, others remained Christians; the Muslims naturally inter-married with their co-religionists from Arabia. But can you deny that the bulk of those people in Palestine, who speak Arabic, whether Muslims or Christians, are direct-line descendants of the original inhabitants: original in the sense of having lived in this country centuries before the Hebrews came to it?’

Dr. Weizmann smiled politely at my outburst and turned the conversation to other topics.

drakeli:
Israel engaged all the Arab countries surrounding it from Syria to egpty to Lebanon to Jordan, Iraq, Iran. Just in a six day war. Since they were all defending Palestinians. Not only Jordan. Its not Jordan Israeli war my friend. Its Arab Israeli war. Get your fact straight.

Just listen to yourself. how can you put lebanon, syria , iran, iraq and jordan in the same sentence? of course they would end up fighting among themselves just like what happened in 1948. Go and make your research

drakeli:
The question you need to ruminate over and ask yourself is, “who were the previous inhabitants of the land before Islam was founded and before the Romans named the whole region Palestine?” Or do you think Palestine is an Arabic name? The Romans named the whole region Palestine after they drove out the Jews into exile in 70 AD. The so called Palestinians are the real land thieves. Be truthful to yourself. Jews are only taking back what had been theirs for thousands of years before Islam existed and before Arabs moved in.

following that logic, the jews should return it tp the canaanites who they massacred with the help of moses and took over.

smilingface:
such nonsense..trump did not decide that Jerusalem be made capital of is real he only recognised it and move us embassy to the location,

Are you gullible or only pretending? Israel can't so it on their own so yes, Trump very much decided the argument.

romme2u:
Nobody has right to any land.

It tumbles from one conqueror to another.

If you claim a land is yours and have enough power/resources to keep it, then it is yours until another person stronger than you pursues you from the land.

My suggestion is they should go to war, anybody that wins take over. After all , that is how Europeans conquered territories and had colonies all over the world.

yes. conquerors own land.

abduljabbar4:


following that logic, the jews should return it tp the canaanites who they massacred with the help of moses and took over.

where are the Canaanites?

capitalzero:


where are the Canaanites?

That doesnt matter. if you say that Jerusalem belongs to the jews because they were kicked out of their land, then why did the jews kick the canaanites out of their (and mercilessly annihilated and raped them) ? can you see the hypocrisy now?

Mindfulness:


Are you gullible or only pretending? Israel can't so it on their own so yes, Trump very much decided the argument.

from you,what do you think it a way out if this dispute..should it be seceded to Palestine instead and why should the Arab world feel threatened because America recognized Jerusalem status as Israel capital I bet if its another nation that recognise jerusalem the way they did it will not make news.