₦airaland Forum

Udmaster:
pdp won 1999 election without southwest.
So shalap

But PDP had NW and NE plus SS and SE in it's pocket then. Is that still the case today?

cstr1000:
I think the SW should just forget the PDP. You guys have lost any influence you had there before.

It is best to just focus on the APC. Afterall, PDP is dead in yorubaland.

pdp has a governor in sw

pdp just won a senatorial district in osun state

pdp still have senators and house of rep members from the southwest

pdp has no governor in northwest, barely exist in the northeast. Yet, it is southwest that should forget about pdp

[quote author=maestroferddi post=63109853][/quote]That mini northern primary was a oneoff.who is atiku to defeat ibb in any contest? Ibb wasnt serious about the presidency then and again you saw his performance at the prinaries.atiku has no grassroot support,he only depends on his rich friends and contacts.hes far from the talakawas and almajiris.lamido and kwankwaso are far more popular.atiku doesnt even have a grip on adamawa,i wonder where else he will win.the mistake atiku and pdp are making is that of expecting bloc votes from ss/se forgetting that obj,yaradua and gej were incumbents when they had those bloc votes.the strategy of incumbents has always been them winning their strongholds with a massive margin while making sure that their opponent winning margin in their stronghold is low.obj,yaradua and gej did it it 2011 and gej tried it in 2015 but failed.this is what buhari will do in 2019,if he has 2mill votes in kaduna,atiku will have less than 100,00p votes while making sure that if atiku has a million votes in anambra,buhari will get at least 500,000 votes.so atiku should go and rest.

greiboy:
To counter your point that made it seem like easterners worked with northeners better.

this a dumb attempt because the first republic is a north and east collabo while the second republic is also a north and east collabo and the latest was yar adua and gej.
So what exactly are you saying?
We had three you had two which is obasanjo atiku and buhari osibanjo.

engrchykae:
this a dumb attempt because the first republic is a north and east collabo while the second republic is also a north and east collabo and the latest was yar adua and gej.
So what exactly are you saying?
We had three you had two which is obasanjo atiku and buhari osibanjo.

no your attempt is in the dump. it is your attempt that is dumb


what happened in the first republic? A military coup which eventually led to a civil war.

what happened in the second republic? Another military coup by a fulani man

Check the northern western alliance, or northern alliance with other regions

Jonathan is from south south sir and a yoruba man nominated him in the spirit of unity

Jonathan and yaradua wasn't successful because the latter died. The trouble that brewed afterwards is still being felt in Nigeria politics today. it led to the downfall of pdp in the north

So Yoruba are expecting special treatment from the same party they helped dethrone about have called the most belittling names. I would have done the same thing to them if it were up to me

senatordave1:
That mini northern primary was a oneoff.who is atiku to defeat ibb in any contest? Ibb wasnt serious about the presidency then and again you saw his performance at the prinaries.atiku has no grassroot support,he only depends on his rich friends and contacts.hes far from the talakawas and almajiris.lamido and kwankwaso are far more popular.atiku doesnt even have a grip on adamawa,i wonder where else he will win.the mistake atiku and pdp are making is that of expecting bloc votes from ss/se forgetting that obj,yaradua and gej were incumbents when they had those bloc votes.the strategy of incumbents has always been them winning their strongholds with a massive margin while making sure that their opponent winning margin in their stronghold is low.obj,yaradua and gej did it it 2011 and gej tried it in 2015 but failed.this is what buhari will do in 2019,if he has 2mill votes in kaduna,atiku will have less than 100,00p votes while making sure that if atiku has a million votes in anambra,buhari will get at least 500,000 votes.so atiku should go and rest.

And you think I will waste even a millisecond trying to disabuse your mind from the crass indoctrination and brainwashing which mindlessly believing in the fable and farce called Buhari has turned you into?

Guy you dont know jack. Buhari will get 500k in Anambra? Seriously, how old are you?

cstr1000:
There is nothing more deluded than a ''Yoruba jolly just come'' thinking they can form an alliance with the north better than the igbos can.

We did it to perfection and taught Awolowo a lesson.

2015 was SW first time of getting it right with political alliance. Even at that, they were only able to make APC win with a margin of 500K votes, while Anambra gave a bloc vote of over 600K to Jonathan which rendered useless all toils of SW APC.

What the SW failed to understand, information which has been provided to Atiku Media Centre for verification is that if SE/SS turn out in 2011 which were undermined by faulty card readers in 2015 were replicated in 2015, PDP would have won with over 500k votes, though APC would still win higher number of states.

Imagine turn out in 2011 was 67% while in 2015 it fell to 36% while SS to 52%.

In 1999, SW voted against PDP, yet PDP won. It was this Atiku that got those Northern votes for Obj.

With SS producing the Chairman, SE is sure for VP. You can't reap were you didn't sow. I pity SW, they should key into this movement because after 2019, they will be demystified.

Hating on SE won't solve anything. The SE I know, don't give a damn.

SillyMods:
But PDP had NW and NE plus SS and SE in it's pocket then. Is that still the case today?

Yes. NE and NC are voting PDP this time.

Udmaster:
pdp won 1999 election without southwest.
So shalap

How strong was pdp in the north then and now?

temitemi1:
By Dirisu Yakubu

ABUJA- With less than 24 hours to the elective convention of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), the South-East Stakeholders Caucus of the party has endorsed Prince Uche Secondus for the position of national chairman.

In a communiqué delivered by Austin Umahi, PDP National Vice Chairman (South- East) at a media conference held at the Chelsea Hotel in Abuja on Friday, the caucus mandated its delegates to the convention to vote for Secondus , saying the decision was taken after a careful consideration of his “Content and character.”

The communique read: “In our meeting today, December 8, 2017, we the stakeholders of PDP South-East geo-political zone having examined all the people vying for the national chairmanship position of our party, PDP; we wish to commend highly all the aspirants especially on how they have conducted themselves during their campaigns fully aware that this is an internal party affair.

“We are very conscious of the personality of who becomes the national chairman of our great party for the next four years. Based on the fore going, we have unanimously in our today’s stakeholders’ meeting, decided that we will back an aspirant that has character and content.

“In this circumstance, and without prejudice to the right of other aspirants to this national chairmanship position, credible and transparent election, we have decided to back and vote for Prince Uche Secondus for the position of national chairman of our great party.”

The stakeholders also endorsed Colonel Austin Akobundu (retd), Udeh Okoye and Alphonsus Gerard for the positions of National Organising Secretary, National Youth Leader and Deputy Financial Secretary respectively.

The meeting was attended by South-East PDP bigwigs including Deputy Senate President, Senator Ike Ekweremadu, Ebonyi State governor, Dave Umahi, former Imo State governor, Sam Egwu, erstwhile Senate President, Adolphus Wabara and ex-Abia State governor, Theodore Orji.

Others included former PDP national chairman, Vincent Ogbulafor, a one-time Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, Emeka Ihedioha and the PDP governorship candidate in the November 18 Anambra guber poll, Oseloka Obaze among others.




Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/pdp-chair-south-east-pdp-caucus-endorse-secondus/

I love this development and endorsement........

Yorubas has taken us for a ride with their cunning, backstabbing, betrayal and brood of chameleons attitude.....

What a rubbish..........theses are same set of people that also want to have business ties with SE/SS,

These are people that would always be coming to us when we leave dem........

We started SE/SS meeting........they started crying foul and sidelinning...........now they demanded. South meeting.....and to all am not but I think no one is comfortable with them again.......

Pdp we love ur decisions............

To hell with them.

SouthEastFacts:
Yes. NE and NC are voting PDP this time.

They told you so? Or that's your expectations?

engrchykae:
Mr ignorant,let me educate you little on this matter.
Awolowo spent most of his political career as an opposition figure until the war started,he was now brought in to fill the vacuum as a federal minister of finance to get the yoruba support for the federal side after which he was dumped and done in by the same north and east alliance of shagari ekwueme.
Things are going to take its natural setting.

your knowledge of politics is obviously shallow and archaic or maybe it was your biased mind that's at work. I'm not sure I should discuss politics with you. You're not ready to see beyond your nose.

maestroferddi:
And you think I will waste even a millisecond trying to disabuse your mind from the crass indoctrination and brainwashing which mindlessly believing in the fable and farce called Buhari has turned you into?

Guy you dont know jack. Buhari will get 500k in Anambra? Seriously, how old are you?

I think its you that know nothing since you forget that nothing is impossible in politics.you think buhari isnt capable of getting 500k votes in anambra but you forgot obj got 300,000 in jigawa,1 million in kaduna,400k in sokoto,bauchi,kebbi,zamfara in 2003 and goodluck in 2011 while in south anywhere obj got over a million votes,buhari couldnt get up to 50,000 and you think buhari would not use that same tactics? If buhari cannot get much votes in ss/se,atiku's votea would be deflated and watered down.south east cant give atiku more than 2million votes and south south 3 million with buhari scoring up to a million there but northwest alone wikl give him 10million.check how incumbents inflate their own votes and deflate that of their opponents and get back to me.

SouthEastFacts:
2015 was SW first time of getting it right with political alliance. Even at that, they were only able to make APC win with a margin of 500K votes, while Anambra gave a bloc vote of over 600K to Jonathan which rendered useless all toils of SW APC.

What the SW failed to understand, information which has been provided to Atiku Media Centre for verification is that if SE/SS turn out in 2011 which were undermined by faulty card readers in 2015 were replicated in 2015, PDP would have won with over 500k votes, though APC would still win higher number of states.

Imagine turn out in 2011 was 67% while in 2015 it fell to 36% while SS to 52%.

In 1999, SW voted against PDP, yet PDP won. It was this Atiku that got those Northern votes for Obj.

With SS producing the Chairman, SE is sure for VP. You can't reap were you didn't sow. I pity SW, they should key into this movement because after 2019, they will be demystified.

Hating on SE won't solve anything. The SE I know, don't give a damn.

Those se/ss bloc votes were possible because pdp had incumbents presidents but atiku cannot amass such votes.buhari and inec would reduce his vote margin in that area while inflating buhari's northern votes.this is a tactic obj used so dont think buhari will not do that with the present inec chairman thats close to him.

senatordave1:
I think its you that know nothing since you forget that nothing is impossible in politics.you think buhari isnt capable of getting 500k votes in anambra but you forgot obj got 300,000 in jigawa,1 million in kaduna,400k in sokoto,bauchi,kebbi,zamfara in 2003 and goodluck in 2011 while in south anywhere obj got over a million votes,buhari couldnt get up to 50,000 and you think buhari would not use that same tactics? If buhari cannot get much votes in ss/se,atiku's votea would be deflated and watered down.south east cant give atiku more than 2million votes and south south 3 million with buhari scoring up to a million there but northwest alone wikl give him 10million.check how incumbents inflate their own votes and deflate that of their opponents and get back to me.

You are not particularly smart...

You may have to tell which is more possible between Buhari getting some 500k votes in Anambra and Atiku getting over 1m votes in Kano...

The problem I have some of you lazy Buhari followers is your apparent inability to the most basic of critical reasoning.

No point wasting my time...

greiboy:
wrong !

Apc and its supporters accused pdp of ruining Nigeria

Apc and its supporters accused Jonathan of ruining the country's economy

it wasn't about a particular tribe, besides if I were to go by your logic, northerners are to blame then.

Since they voted and supported buhari and apc more than any other region in Nigeria.

lmao
wateva suits ur belief lad
d fact still remains
SW nailed its mast to APC and criticized gej to no end

leezzz:
lmao
wateva suits ur belief lad
d fact still remains
SW nailed its mast to APC and criticized gej to no end

The facts still remains pdp won no states in northwest or north east and raised a militant group to disturb his pdp government. Yet, the next presidential candidate is coming from that region

So who is doing what?

Protein0:
your knowledge of politics is obviously shallow and archaic or maybe it was your biased mind that's at work. I'm not sure I should discuss politics with you. You're not ready to see beyond your nose.

because FACTS are sacred,you can't dispute the above fact.
Come to think of it,you are with buhari but he is galivanting the east probably seeking for votes

PDP needs to do something fast, or it will break up after the convention and we will be left without an opposition party. desperate times calls for desperate measures, if they were smart they would create some offices so all the zones, especially the south west can have a sense of belonging. at the moment PDP seems lifeless

wait o, I'm hearing SE bloc votes ke, I thought they were going to boycott elections for ofe nsala. hmm its either the ingredients for ofe nsala have become extinct or ipob is truly dead.it should be the former cos the latter would be something... and here i was looking forward to try that their soup.

maestroferddi:
You are not particularly smart...

You may have to tell which is more possible between Buhari getting some 500k votes in Anambra and Atiku getting over 1m votes in Kano...

The problem I have some of you lazy Buhari followers is your apparent inability to the most basic of critical reasoning.

No point wasting my time...

If you were half smart,you will see that i added a clause that buhari may not get 500k votes in anambra but atiku will not get up to a million.how will atiku even have 1 million votes in kano when kwankwaso and shekarau cannot? Who sabi atiku for kano? All pdp supporters there cannot deliver even 100k votea for atiku?because atiku is a muslim,he automatically gets many votes from the north? How many did bafarawa and shekarau get in 2011? Atiku is a loser like you.

How can atiku that has never come 2nd in any presidential election,that doesnt have a platform like buhari and cant even win 5 states win buhari? All our presidents have always won their states effortlessly in addition to 4 other states.can atiku win adamawa?

greiboy:
The facts still remains pdp won no states in northwest or north east and raised a militant group to disturb his pdp government. Yet, the next presidential candidate is coming from that region

So who is doing what?

bro bro bro
d north feel cheated hence d adoption of northern candidates for 2019 same way SW candidates were adopted for 1999
u dig?

leezzz:
bro bro bro
d north feel cheated hence d adoption of northern candidates for 2019 same way SW candidates were adopted for 1999
u dig?

Really the north felt cheated when they occupied the seat of the vice president, senate president and speaker of the house, despite giving buhari more votes than Jonathan in the general election in 2011

I wonder how Yoruba were supposed to feel after giving Jonathan more than 4million votes.

Diiet:
Igbo youths always accuse yoruba

of betraying them, now what can we call what they are doing to yorubas in PDP today?



They are now working with some

PDP members in SS

and North to deny SW the post

PDP already Zoned to our region.


I just hope ibo youths are seeing what their elders are doing to yoruba now in PDP, working verry hard to deny us our rightful position.


When we pay them back in their own coin let them take it in good fate as we are doing today and not cry like babies as they always do. Wicked people.

But one thing i know be say first to do no they pain, na retaliation they pain pass.

retaliation with your mouth odour and unpleasant looking shoes, lol afohnjas and boasting sha.

senatordave1:
If you were half smart,you will see that i added a clause that buhari may not get 500k votes in anambra but atiku will not get up to a million.how will atiku even have 1 million votes in kano when kwankwaso and shekarau cannot? Who sabi atiku for kano? All pdp supporters there cannot deliver even 100k votea for atiku?because atiku is a ssmuslim,he automatically gets many votes from the north? How many did bafarawa and shekarau get in 2011? Atiku is a loser like you.

You dont have common sense...

Convince me why any right-thinking person would cast their votes to a failed leader like Buhari and you are foaming at the mouth.

When you grow enough sense, maybe I will consider honouring your bleatings with further response.

greiboy:
Really the north felt cheated when they occupied the seat of the vice president, senate president and speaker of the house, despite giving buhari more votes than Jonathan in the general election in 2011

I wonder how Yoruba were supposed to feel after giving Jonathan more than 4million votes.

eminent northerners were angry that they did not complete two terms
yorubas were angry at gej for appointing so many igbos
hausas love power fanatically