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tobilobapaul:
Well my say on tithe is
If you dont pay tithe u can never be blessed take it or leave
it because you are a weak christian that y what the idiot call freeze words penetrate ur mind
let all church stop paying tithe and let see if the church will run down or will florish the more
I just pity this already failed generation of the 21th century because u have despice a lot of this and it may be hard for some people to make it in life, let thank God we are not in the time of elijah some people will have been devour by bear.
Just note because we are under grace doesnt mean we should miss use it.[color=#990000][/color]

Why is it that when u people want to defend paying of tithe u insult? U dat u r a very strong Christian. Did u read ur bible? Read from Samuel and kings in the Bible very well. The Israelites bring their tithes and eat it with their family in the presence of the Lord.

Uncle, the Bible is very complete and detailed. Our God provided for the levites in particular. Every tithe of the third year belongs to the levites.

Please read and study your Bible well

YoungMILITANT:
young man, Jesus came to amend and not to abolish the law.

Christian means, Christ- like and not Jew like.
Pentecostal churches brought shame upon Christianity.

Exactly and Christians preach and follow d amended law.

Lemme say 94% of Naija pastors are agbero.

miketayo:
Exactly and Christians preach and follow d amended law.

NwaAmaikpe:



Tithing is not for Christians.

Christians don't tithe,
Foolish Christians who don't know their left from the right spiritually tithe.

Pastors are more concerned about tithe than salvation.
Where a man's treasure is, that's where his heart is.
Do not pay tithes or offerings, we must help weed out pastors whose sole aim in ministry is exploiting people and amassing wealth.

No to Tithe!!!!
I do not tithe, I am wealthy and blessed all around.
You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

tithing is a personal thing.
u can stop or dnt pay tithe, bt u saying people shouldn't is wher u ar gettng it all wrong.

show me in the bible where "Christian shouldn't tithe"

Daddy Freeze....u see wetin u haff caused abi?? I hope u are satisfied by trying to put sand into person garri ko??

AnodaIT:
Today na tithe

If Christ walked on earth today, the same words spoken 2000 years ago would still be repeated in this case

Luke 11:42
New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

The more important things like justice : a politician is given money to provide infrastructure, he embezzled it and bring it to the church and the pastor accepts it.
Justice is asking the super rich members to help the poor among them not telling them to bring their tithe

Love of God? How can someone says he loves God yet sheep under his pastoral care cannot afford school fees, clothing and food yet he flies in private jet and build schools for the rich.

I am not for or against tithe but it should be voluntary and even then Pastors should make members understand that tithe alone is not a guarantee of success or good relationship with God. Justice and Love of God are more important in attracting blessings. That's what Christ said

the best comment so far.

kamez:
The bible says " bring all ye tithes into my store-house, that there may be meat in my house"

So if the store house is not the church, pls enlighten me.. And tell me how what abiara said is in variance to what the bible said.

Thanjs

so dey shuld start building store house?

Who they use their tithe help, their private university is the most expensive..

I,wonder why the pastors rarely shade more light on Deuteronomy 14:22-29,
please house I,m not against tithe,but God instructed the children of Israel to bring the one tenth of their farm produce,to the synagogue,and mind you,farm produce is,once in a year ,that they should eat and be merry the remaining should go to the priest,please, those who understand that verse more should ,shade more light .

PaChukwudi44:
This is bullshit coming from Makinde.I never expected this from him!!! He could not even adduce any biblical rationale for the practice

it is pastors like him that are the thieves we are talking about

If you pay tithe, you are under the brainwash of your pastor. No body paid tithe to Jesus or the early apostles even for the gospel. Jesus promised that there will be provision provoked by the holy ghost by the brethren and the converts as they go from city to city. He advised them "And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat"

PaChukwudi44:
Another disappointing one coming from Abiara.Totally at variance with what the Bible preaches

. you dey mind that man. na thief. e dey him blood

AnodaIT:
Today na tithe

If Christ walked on earth today, the same words spoken 2000 years ago would still be repeated in this case

Luke 11:42
New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

The more important things like justice : a politician is given money to provide infrastructure, he embezzled it and bring it to the church and the pastor accepts it.
Justice is asking the super rich members to help the poor among them not telling them to bring their tithe

Love of God? How can someone says he loves God yet sheep under his pastoral care cannot afford school fees, clothing and food yet he flies in private jet and build schools for the rich.

I am not for or against tithe but it should be voluntary and even then Pastors should make members understand that tithe alone is not a guarantee of success or good relationship with God. Justice and Love of God are more important in attracting blessings. That's what Christ said

you are blessed indeed. just nailed it

AnodaIT:
Today na tithe

If Christ walked on earth today, the same words spoken 2000 years ago would still be repeated in this case

Luke 11:42
New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

The more important things like justice : a politician is given money to provide infrastructure, he embezzled it and bring it to the church and the pastor accepts it.
Justice is asking the super rich members to help the poor among them not telling them to bring their tithe

Love of God? How can someone says he loves God yet sheep under his pastoral care cannot afford school fees, clothing and food yet he flies in private jet and build schools for the rich.

I am not for or against tithe but it should be voluntary and even then Pastors should make members understand that tithe alone is not a guarantee of success or good relationship with God. Justice and Love of God are more important in attracting blessings. That's what Christ said

you are blessed indeed. just nailed it

AnodaIT:
Today na tithe

If Christ walked on earth today, the same words spoken 2000 years ago would still be repeated in this case

Luke 11:42
New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

The more important things like justice : a politician is given money to provide infrastructure, he embezzled it and bring it to the church and the pastor accepts it.
Justice is asking the super rich members to help the poor among them not telling them to bring their tithe

Love of God? How can someone says he loves God yet sheep under his pastoral care cannot afford school fees, clothing and food yet he flies in private jet and build schools for the rich.

I am not for or against tithe but it should be voluntary and even then Pastors should make members understand that tithe alone is not a guarantee of success or good relationship with God. Justice and Love of God are more important in attracting blessings. That's what Christ said

you are blessed indeed. just nailed it

Tankotanko:
That is the crux of the matter. Freeze still leading. Attempts in bringing in traditions as expressed by the Catholic priests never add up. Mixing Christianity with paganism. No way. Truth is sacrosanct, Daddy Freeze, Bravo n more grease

weytin concern Catholics for this issue.

please note



"Also, Catholics are under no obligation to pay a
certain percentage of their income to the church as a
tithe. In the early history of our church, the priests
depended upon the generous support of congregations
for their sustenance. This custom was based on the
New Testament instruction: Jesus taught the apostles
to depend upon charity when He sent them on a
mission (see Matthew 10:10)"

the tithe problem is a Protestant one, don't robe Catholics to your palava

D most annoying part of nairaland is giving Muslims ND satanists freedom to be pressing likes button upandan.

1. For many years, Deeper Life Bible Church (DLBC) has been feeding the poor for free especially during her Retreats - Bad for news. 2. Deeper Life builds a #3 Billion Naira Church facility to cater for her teeming multitudes-(The Church comes under attack for not giving the money to the poor by people who probably have never cared for others) Good for news!
3. Redeemed Christian Church of God develops a forest into a sprawling city (Redemption Camp) at no cost to the government helping to decongest Lagos-(No one is interested) - Bad for news
4. Christ Embassy inspires and sponsors hundreds of youths talented in the music ministry-Bad for news.
5. Churches establish universities ensuring that many otherwise jobless academics are gainfully employed - Bad for news. 6. Covenant, JABU, BIU and Landmark Universities are among the 10 cheapest private universities - Bad for news.
7. David Oyedepo Foundation now gives about N500 million annually in her 24 year old scholarship scheme to indigent students-Bad for the news.
8. Covenant University in less than 20 years ranks amongst the top universities in Africa ahead of many much older Nigerian Universities-Bad for news.
9. Pastor Adeboye and wife build rehabilitation centre in Epe for youths overtaken by drug addiction - Bad for news. 10. Adeboye and Oyedepo clock 50 and 35 years in marriage respectively-Bad for the news.
11. Pastor Chris gets divorced - news goes viral.
12. Sinach, Eben, Frank Edwards, Buchi, Samsung, Joe Praize all inspired by Pastor Chris-Bad for the news.
13. Daystar equips 20,000 kids as they return to school-Bad for the news.
14. Bishop Oyedepo subsidises transport fare in hometown to #20-#50 per trip-Bad for the news. 15. RCCG builds 80km road connecting Ikorodu with Redemption Camp/Lagos-Ibadan Expressway-Bad for the news.
16. Oyedepo builds #100 million Townhall in Omu Aran-Bad for the news. 17. Ayo Oritsejafor gives cars, money, Keke, sewing machines, grinding machines to the poor-Bad for the news. 18. Oritsejafor receives jet gift-(He must sell and give the poor)-News goes viral.
19. Winner's Chapel in FACT does NOT own 4 jets-(This is not good for them)-Bad for the news. 20. Pastor Adeboye flies to Zambia, Botswana, CAR, Rwanda in private jet-(He should have flown Nigeria Airways (sic)-News goes viral.
21. Winners Chapel 's gift consignment largest ever received by Rwandan Government - Bad for news.
22. Winners Chapel Accesses Koma Hills with provisions - plants school, church- Bad for news.
23. Olukoya, MFM provides cars and cash for 1st class graduates in Unilag yearly - Bad for the news.
24. Prisoners testify of how Church missionaries led them to Christ, became better citizens-Bad for news.
25. Winners Chapel gives provisions, food, cash to Osun workers after being owed 8 months salary by State Government - Bad for news.
26. Christ Embassy feeds thousands of children daily in her Inner City Mission Scheme (who cares)-Bad for news.
27. Red Cross commends Oyedepo for largest consignment of welfare aid asides government since Nigerian Civil war (who cares)-Bad for news.
28. Landmark University operates largest scholarship scheme among Nigerian private universities--Bad for news.
29. Bishop Oyedepo sits in Church owned jet (Perhaps he should be standing)-News goes viral.
30. MFM invests heavily in football-(who cares)-Bad for news.
31. Living Faith Church under investigation in UK - News goes viral.
32. Living Faith Church commended for financial integrity by UK authorities after probe, named as a good example for other NGOs-Bad for news.
33. Nigerian Churches attract largest number of tourists to Nigeria - Bad for news.
34. Nigerian Churches infrastructural development among highest in Nigeria-(who cares ) -Bad for the news. 35. Nigerian Churches now the foremost player in education at all levels in Nigeria-Bad for news. 36. Covenant University generates her own electricity - Bad for news. 37. Faith Oyedepo 'paralysed'-News goes viral

NwaAmaikpe:



Tithing is not for Christians.

Christians don't tithe,
Foolish Christians who don't know their left from the right spiritually tithe.

Pastors are more concerned about tithe than salvation.
Where a man's treasure is, that's where his heart is.
Do not pay tithes or offerings, we must help weed out pastors whose sole aim in ministry is exploiting people and amassing wealth.

No to Tithe!!!!
I do not tithe, I am wealthy and blessed all around.
You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Please do enlighten us; from which version of the bible is this scripture which is emboldened from?

Basalt:
And this spiteful post is coming from a supposedly tithe paying terrorist calling himself a Christian.
Is this how Christians speak?

it i s well with your soul.

Thumbs up if this topic made your day

highrise07:
everybody should serve his God, gods whichever way he wants. no man should take paracetamol for another man's headache. Those condemning pastors are jobless and vision less, some of them are so poor and stingy that they can't donate 0.1% of their earnings to anything ,living or dead. Face your life ,make your own money and buy your own private jet. Don't waste your life ranting on nairaland . if you're angry with this post, suicide is not an option.

And those defending pastors are equally jobless n vision less. Dangote is the richest black man on earth. And he doesn't come to ur church and he doesn't pay tithe. Keep Fooooooling ur self.

FrancisDiote:
true talk an individual's 5k can not run a university.

But then not all will qualify and not all congregation are students.

What am saying is simple
GIVE BACK TO THE SOCIETY

True.
If only you would look closely though.
A lot of all these churches do give back to the society.
There's a culture in Christianity whereby your right hand shouldnt have an idea of what your left hand is doing in terms of charity.
Some have made boreholes in a lot of rural areas, some are the first responders in terms of areas facing disasters, some are no 1 in terms if prison ministry and rehabilitation. Heck, i have a 75 year old aunt who's no 1 to follow her church bus to prison once a month, go to a village where their branch has established a primary school for its indigenes, are planning on building a secondary school all expenses paid by the church. I kniw its a village school, and maybe the standards might not be up to par with those in the cities/run by the govt (just my thoughts, cos i believe someone has to pay to get quality). This is just a small branch of one of these churches.
Mainly filled with a few elderly rich/middle class people who give their time (unquantifiable resource in my opinion), effort, and money to make a difference, no matter how tiny, young people are also present btw.
This is just one of the small branches, so imagine what others are up to.
I've seen some churches supply mega transformers around, some have rebuilt run down govt schools e.g Oregun high school in Lagos, and so many other things.
There are still christian missionaries going to those newly discovered people somewhere (I've forgotten the name, these were a new tribe discovered in nigeria, running about naked a few years ago with no atom of civilization, still quite recent- Koma hills. Just saw a guy's post above and i remembered it. He's even talking of Oyedepos ministry and what they did there. I didnt even know the ministru invested so much there, i was talking about other ministries too).
Even the Borno crises, boko haram and the instability, a lot of churches send major relief materials without anyone hearing about it to IDPs. I read an article recently on NL by a journalist about the charity some of these churches he knows personally have contributed.

eyinjuege:
True.
If only you would look closely though.
A lot of all these churches do give back to the society.
There's a culture in Christianity whereby your right hand shouldnt have an idea of what your left hand is doing in terms of charity.
Some have made boreholes in a lot of rural areas, some are the first responders in terms of areas facing disasters, some are no 1 in terms if prison ministry and rehabilitation. Heck, i have a 75 year old aunt who's no 1 to follow her church bus to prison once a month, go to a village where their branch has established a primary school for its indigenes, are planning on building a secondary school all expenses paid by the church. I kniw its a village school, and maybe the standards might not be up to par with those in the cities/run by the govt (just my thoughts, cos i believe someone has to pay to get quality). This is just a small branch of one of these churches.
Mainly filled with a few elderly rich/middle class people who give their time (unquantifiable resource in my opinion), effort, and money to make a difference, no matter how tiny, young people are also present btw.
This is just one of the small branches, so imagine what others are up to.
I've seen some churches supply mega transformers around, some have rebuilt run down govt schools e.g Oregun high school in Lagos, and so many other things.
There are still christian missionaries going to those newly discovered people somewhere (I've forgotten the name, these were a new tribe discovered in nigeria, running about naked a few years ago with no atom of civilization, still quite recent- Koma hills. Just saw a guy's post above and i remembered it. He's even talking of Oyedepos ministry and what they did there. I didnt even know the ministru invested so much there, i was talking about other ministries too).
Even the Borno crises, boko haram and the instability, a lot of churches send major relief materials without anyone hearing about it to IDPs. I read an article recently on NL by a journalist about the charity some of these churches he knows personally have contributed.

I am not saying churches dont do this, they do but very few.
But churches that does this are mostly smaller churches.

I worship with one of the biggest churches in africa and I tell you this is not the case

winningwinner:
1. For many years, Deeper Life Bible Church (DLBC) has been feeding the poor for free especially during her Retreats - Bad for news. 2. Deeper Life builds a #3 Billion Naira Church facility to cater for her teeming multitudes-(The Church comes under attack for not giving the money to the poor by people who probably have never cared for others) Good for news!
3. Redeemed Christian Church of God develops a forest into a sprawling city (Redemption Camp) at no cost to the government helping to decongest Lagos-(No one is interested) - Bad for news
4. Christ Embassy inspires and sponsors hundreds of youths talented in the music ministry-Bad for news.
5. Churches establish universities ensuring that many otherwise jobless academics are gainfully employed - Bad for news. 6. Covenant, JABU, BIU and Landmark Universities are among the 10 cheapest private universities - Bad for news.
7. David Oyedepo Foundation now gives about N500 million annually in her 24 year old scholarship scheme to indigent students-Bad for the news.
8. Covenant University in less than 20 years ranks amongst the top universities in Africa ahead of many much older Nigerian Universities-Bad for news.
9. Pastor Adeboye and wife build rehabilitation centre in Epe for youths overtaken by drug addiction - Bad for news. 10. Adeboye and Oyedepo clock 50 and 35 years in marriage respectively-Bad for the news.
11. Pastor Chris gets divorced - news goes viral.
12. Sinach, Eben, Frank Edwards, Buchi, Samsung, Joe Praize all inspired by Pastor Chris-Bad for the news.
13. Daystar equips 20,000 kids as they return to school-Bad for the news.
14. Bishop Oyedepo subsidises transport fare in hometown to #20-#50 per trip-Bad for the news. 15. RCCG builds 80km road connecting Ikorodu with Redemption Camp/Lagos-Ibadan Expressway-Bad for the news.
16. Oyedepo builds #100 million Townhall in Omu Aran-Bad for the news. 17. Ayo Oritsejafor gives cars, money, Keke, sewing machines, grinding machines to the poor-Bad for the news. 18. Oritsejafor receives jet gift-(He must sell and give the poor)-News goes viral.
19. Winner's Chapel in FACT does NOT own 4 jets-(This is not good for them)-Bad for the news. 20. Pastor Adeboye flies to Zambia, Botswana, CAR, Rwanda in private jet-(He should have flown Nigeria Airways (sic)-News goes viral.
21. Winners Chapel 's gift consignment largest ever received by Rwandan Government - Bad for news.
22. Winners Chapel Accesses Koma Hills with provisions - plants school, church- Bad for news.
23. Olukoya, MFM provides cars and cash for 1st class graduates in Unilag yearly - Bad for the news.
24. Prisoners testify of how Church missionaries led them to Christ, became better citizens-Bad for news.
25. Winners Chapel gives provisions, food, cash to Osun workers after being owed 8 months salary by State Government - Bad for news.
26. Christ Embassy feeds thousands of children daily in her Inner City Mission Scheme (who cares)-Bad for news.
27. Red Cross commends Oyedepo for largest consignment of welfare aid asides government since Nigerian Civil war (who cares)-Bad for news.
28. Landmark University operates largest scholarship scheme among Nigerian private universities--Bad for news.
29. Bishop Oyedepo sits in Church owned jet (Perhaps he should be standing)-News goes viral.
30. MFM invests heavily in football-(who cares)-Bad for news.
31. Living Faith Church under investigation in UK - News goes viral.
32. Living Faith Church commended for financial integrity by UK authorities after probe, named as a good example for other NGOs-Bad for news.
33. Nigerian Churches attract largest number of tourists to Nigeria - Bad for news.
34. Nigerian Churches infrastructural development among highest in Nigeria-(who cares ) -Bad for the news. 35. Nigerian Churches now the foremost player in education at all levels in Nigeria-Bad for news. 36. Covenant University generates her own electricity - Bad for news. 37. Faith Oyedepo 'paralysed'-News goes viral

Wow, thats deep.
I know some other churches that equally do a lot, not even mentioned.
That's why I'm a bit sceptical about people who dont even believe in the Bible, who dont even attend any of these churches (to know what goes on there), taking a forefront in this movt. Is there something else they would gain from it? , is there an ulterior motive?
I have a brother who has stopped tithing, but still gave $12,000 to a section of a church ( for something in particular) recently.
I understand the church used to be poor hence the analogy "as poor as a churchrat" used widely. But never again. Its become a shock to many that out of the blues, the church has become one of the wealthiest institutions.
Manned by people.
I believe in accountability. Every dime should be accounted for and made public for their members only (its not your business if you dont go to the church or ever contributed anything), even external audits should go ahead.
These pastors are men, there are a few I'm sceptical about their ministries especially with their personal lifestyle. But some have stood the test of time, their ministries have helped a no of people, and not just by prayers but by financially helping.

One religion, one bible, different interpretations! One verse could be interpreted in 20 ways by 20 different churches! Na wa o!
May God help us

FrancisDiote:
I am not saying churches dont do this, they do but very few.
But churches that does this are mostly smaller churches.

I worship with one of the biggest churches in africa and I tell you this is not the case

I gave an example of a redeemed branch.
Winners do a lot too, as i know people who have benefitted directly from them.
Daystar also does a lot too in terms of youths, turning dilapidated govt schools around.
Nigeria has close to 200million people, the churches can only do so much. I know there's always room for improvement for them to do more. I also know there are some thieves amongst them, so don't think I'm not aware.
I think they should be held accountable by their members, They should be transparent- let your members know whats coming in and going out

ooshinibos:
are you sure you are blessed , if you are rich you will not be on Nairaland :-)

Are you suggesting Nairaland is for the poor?

kamez:
The bible says " bring all ye tithes into my store-house, that there may be meat in my house"

So if the store house is not the church, pls enlighten me.. And tell me how what abiara said is in variance to what the bible said.

Thanjs

That passage in Malachi 3:10, is not directed to Christians nor Israelites.

Malachi 2:1, clearly stated that; God sent Malachi to command the Priests.

Looking at how tithe was practiced and commanded by God, you will know why none of these pastors are quoting scripture references.

The whole bases of tithing was to give inheritance to the Levites, as the Lord was their inheritance. When the twelve tribes got lands and properties Levites got nothing and God said the other tribes that got properties must give His (God’s) inheritance to the Levites every third year.

The others years, he commanded them to eat their tithes and use it to buy anything that their heart desires and eat with their families, the poor, strangers, etc.

The tithe given to Levites were to be enjoyed by all Levites, not just the Priest who serve at the tabernacle...i.e. if you are of the tribe of Levi, you must eat from the tithe.

The way it is practiced today, only the Pastor collect the tithes. If you look at the biblical practice, you will conclude that anyone serving in one form or another in the church today is a ‘Levite’ e.g. Choir, Usher, Bible School Teacher, Prayer Warrior, etc while the Pastors are the ‘Priest’...if this is done according to the law, every one of them will get a portion of the Lord’s inheritance in tithes on a regular bases.

Also, Pastor owning Properties, lands, businesses, inheritance nullifies the bases of tithing; that should completely disqualify them from collecting tithes.

{O ye who believe! Lo! many of the (Jewish) rabbis and the (Christian) monks devour the wealth of mankind wantonly and debar (men) from the way of Allah. They who hoard up gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah, unto them give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom} AL QUR'AN 09:34

AnodaIT:
Today na tithe

If Christ walked on earth today, the same words spoken 2000 years ago would still be repeated in this case

Luke 11:42
New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

The more important things like justice : a politician is given money to provide infrastructure, he embezzled it and bring it to the church and the pastor accepts it.
Justice is asking the super rich members to help the poor among them not telling them to bring their tithe

Love of God? How can someone says he loves God yet sheep under his pastoral care cannot afford school fees, clothing and food yet he flies in private jet and build schools for the rich.

I am not for or against tithe but it should be voluntary and even then Pastors should make members understand that tithe alone is not a guarantee of success or good relationship with God. Justice and Love of God are more important in attracting blessings. That's what Christ said

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Hello, Christ was talking to the Pharisee and Mosaic law was still in effect while Christ was around. Don't 4get tithing became a law to service the levitical priesthood and the temple, God seized to make use of the temple and the priesthood including natural Jews who rejected Jesus with the establishment of the Christian congregation in Pentecost 33ce - Matt 15:29&30. John 1:11, Matt 21: 43 The law was a tutor which led to Christ - Gal 3: 23 & 24? Is tithe different from the laws that ended in Christ? Did you read anywhere in the Bible that Christ and his followers paid or preached tithe? Does tithe agree with the principle of Christian giving as outline in 2cor 9:7... Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion.... Why is there no controversy about other laws like sabbath and animal sacrifice which carries death penalty? Numbers 15: 32-36

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Barryotu3:
Pls can someone explain the difference between the storehouse and the temple in the old testament?
If the emphasis was on bringing tithes into the storehouse, why did Christ go against the God's command by emphasising giving out to the poor instead of bringing to the temple? Remember he told the rich man to sell all his property and give to the poor and not to the priests or him.
In sending out his disciples, why did Christ ask them to depend on charity instead of insisting on being paid for their services? Are our present men of God no longer Christ disciples?
Why did the apostles who were filled with the Holy Spirit go contrary to God's commandments by emphasising on giving instead of tithing? Did the apostles see themselves more as Christians than Jews who were not bound by Jewish religious obligations?

Hebrews 7: 5 - 25, Gal 3:23 &24 all shows that tithing like other laws which led to Christ has ended with the death of Christ and establishment of the new Christian congregation which worship not in man made temples but in spirit and truth

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Jaytecq:
tithing is a personal thing.
u can stop or dnt pay tithe, bt u saying people shouldn't is wher u ar gettng it all wrong.

show me in the bible where "Christian shouldn't tithe"

Galatians 3: 23 and 24, Hebrews 7: 5-25 all shows that the Law has ended for Christians

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kitaatita:
'I want to assure you that tithing is scriptural. But you don’t use tithes to run your personal businesses or improve your family’s welfare by sending your children to the best schools. For God’s sake, it is meant to serve the church and the poor. Tithes are not for personal prosperity. There should be an account for not only tithes but money collected in the name of the church. There should be no monopoly of money collected, neither should the accounts be hidden.— Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama, President of Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigerian and Catholic Archbishop of Jos

I agree but its not an obligation for Christians. Hello, Christ was talking to the Pharisee and Mosaic law was still in effect while Christ was around. Don't 4get tithing became a law to service the levitical priesthood and the temple, God seized to make use of the temple and the priesthood including natural Jews who rejected Jesus with the establishment of the Christian congregation in Pentecost 33ce - Matt 15:29&30. John 1:11, Matt 21: 43 The law was a tutor which led to Christ - Hebrews 7: 5-25, Gal 3: 23 & 24? Is tithe different from the laws that ended in Christ? Did you read anywhere in the Bible that Christ and his followers paid or preached tithe? Does tithe agree with the principle of Christian giving as outline in 2cor 9:7... Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion.... Why is there no controversy about other laws like sabbath and animal sacrifice which carries death penalty? Numbers 15: 32-36