My oukitel k6000 plus does better

mdee1:


Processor makes operations and applications run faster and Ram makes you run more than one operation/application at a time. An higher Ram reduces if not completely eliminates lag thereby making applications run smoother(or faster)

Please Bros,

I like to know this. If my laptop refuses to complete the loading of some websites, what could be the likely problem?

Do I need Ram or Processor up grade?

PenGriffey:
If xxxtedyxxx no comment for this one, e never complete

lols...


no mind the werey infinix and tecno clowns.


comparing phone to laptop...

mumu people.

EvilMetahuman:
nope.
4 gigs of ram is the same everywhere. both on pc or phones.
problem is, you people cant really differentiate between ram and processing power.

chip manufacturers limit their processing power to what they think os or the phone needs at a time just like pc. thats why you havent seen mobile processors going above 2.5-2.8ghz while pc proccessors have crossed 4ghz.
smartphone processors can handle the same task as pc processors, only difference is the number of cores or power you need for a particular task.

e.g, you don't expect a core 19 or amd ryzen threadripper not to be more powerful than snapdragon 835 chip.
now imagine core19 in a smartphone, will it suddenly become less powerful? nope.

apple A10 and A11bionic chips are being used in both their laptops and phones. macbooks are some of the fastest laptop in the world.
making them smaller doesnt mean less powerful.
or will you say a sd card of 20gb is less down a big hard drive of 10gb?


did you know, snapdragon have started putting their processors in laptop running window 10? google it.

it amazes me how much rubbish you are saying with confidence

first, i don't need to google anything, judging by this reply, I have 10x knowledge on anything than you do. so everything I will say now, google it before you reply me, I don't have time to fetch links for you.

RAM on mobile and on PC is NOT the same!! they are not constructed/built the same way. if they were, they will be the same size durhhhh! but they are not. a pc Ram works way better but with the size of a PC ram, it cannot fit into a mobile phone, so a smaller RAM is made for mobile which then is obviously less powerful. when I mean they work differently I don't mean the size is different, NO! I mean the PC RAM in a way works more efficiently. if mobile RAM where equally as good, c'mon every manufacturer will use mobile RAM on their laptop or especially hybrid tablet trying to make them smaller and more compact, common sense!

see this dude talking about me not able to differentiate between RAM and processor that's an insult to my department (Computer Science) and my whole career

chip manufacturers limit their processing power to what they think os or the phone needs

What? in a competitive market? this is soooo funny. THAT IS VERY VERY VERY FALSE it is just where the technology is at the moment, once there is a breakthrough they will push higher to surpass their competition and use those numbers(Which will also give higher benchmark scores) as the selling point.

Smartphones processors CANNOT handle the exact same tasks as a PC. if they can, again, smartphone processors are smaller and they don't need a fan, manufacturers would have found ways to use those processors instead to make a more compact and lighter PC. However, when it comes to the very basic task of a PC, the most powerful mobile processors might be able to do that. one of those processors is the Intel Atom. Then Intel Atom is found on very low end and cheap PC's, in fact, the cheapest PC's use Intel Atom. ironically, Intel Atom is only found on Flagship Mobile Devices. any phone or tablet that uses Intel Atom is High end. Intel Atom is still used in PC's so the pc can be smaller and portable and also be without a fan, and that will cost a lot in performance. a girl in my class bought a pc will intel atom she could barely do any programming with it, and after we explained it to her, she was almost crying. Microsoft has been working with Qualcomm to bring their Snapdragon chips to Windows so they can make a better compact and light hybrid PC or tablet than Intel Atom offers since on mobile too, snapdragon is ahead on Intel Atom. even the first version of PC's using snapdragon are running Windows 10S out of the box. Windows 10S is the light version of windows which allows you to run apps from the Microsoft store only. you cannot run a full-blown desktop app on it. but you can upgrade to Windows 10 Pro, it's pointless tho. once you open any of photoshop, android studio and the likes, that's the end. even google chrome will be a problem. if you now open FIFA 18, it will just catch fire or explode

All MacBooks use Intel's not A11 or whatever they have on the iPhones. A11 bionic it's just powerful enough for the iPad and iPhone only. and that line you said, was the most ignorant line in your whole reply

and the number of cores is not a difference, my i3 laptop is quad core, the difference is in the structure, the way they were built, just like mobile RAM and PC RAM could be both 4GB but are not the same. an 8-Core Snapdragon or 10-core MediaTek can never do what this 4-cores i3 is doing. and i3, 15, 17, are even laptop processors. Intel Xeon is for desktops and is way more powerful but cannot fit on a laptop. you can never compare an i7 to a Xeon. just like you can never compare Snapdragon 835 to Intel Pentium.

and a core i9 can never be in a smartphone! why? cos the space is not there! so in order to reduce the chip to fit in a smartphone, things from the chip are taken out which also reduces overall performance

it's like comparing a 20mp smartphone camera to a 20mp professional camera, you want to tell me there are the same now? a bigger lens means better picture but such big lens cannot fit on a smartphone and that is why a smartphone camera is never going to be better

an SD card of 200GB is less than an SSD of 200GB and I'm not talking about storage size, I'm talking about performance. heard of Read/Write speed? that is just one of the differentiating factor.

EvilMetahuman:
did you actually read my post before posting this.
Who said mobile processors are more powerful than pc processors?


In the process of acting like you know something, you just turned the whole topic of discussion upside down.

Go back and read that post 2 more times, this time, take your time to digest it.

i was posting in reply to this:

EvilMetahuman:
smartphone processors can handle the same task as pc processors

and my point is that there are task that pc processors can handle that your smartphone would not handle resonably

blackweaver:


i was posting in reply to this:



and my point is that there are task that pc processors can handle that your smartphone would not handle resonably

if you had gone through the discussion carefully, you woulda realized that im not comparing the speed of mobile cpu with that of pc.

thank you.


everyone knows pc cpu are superior because of more demanding tasks.
point of the post you quoted was, a cpu in a mobile phone will do the same work as the cpu of the same power in a pc.

get it now?

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PhonePlanet:


it amazes me how much rubbish you are saying with confidence

first, i don't need to google anything, judging by this reply, I have 10x knowledge on anything than you do. so everything I will say now, google it before you reply me, I don't have time to fetch links for you.

RAM on mobile and on PC is NOT the same!! they are not constructed/built the same way. if they were, they will be the same size durhhhh! but they are not. a pc Ram works way better but with the size of a PC ram, it cannot fit into a mobile phone, so a smaller RAM is made for mobile which then is obviously less powerful. when I mean they work differently I don't mean the size is different, NO! I mean the PC RAM in a way works more efficiently. if mobile RAM where equally as good, c'mon every manufacturer will use mobile RAM on their laptop or especially hybrid tablet trying to make them smaller and more compact, common sense!

see this dude talking about me not able to differentiate between RAM and processor that's an insult to my department (Computer Science) and my whole career

What? in a competitive market? this is soooo funny. THAT IS VERY VERY VERY FALSE it is just where the technology is at the moment, once there is a breakthrough they will push higher to surpass their competition and use those numbers(Which will also give higher benchmark scores) as the selling point.

Smartphones processors CANNOT handle the exact same tasks as a PC. if they can, again, smartphone processors are smaller and they don't need a fan, manufacturers would have found ways to use those processors instead to make a more compact and lighter PC. However, when it comes to the very basic task of a PC, the most powerful mobile processors might be able to do that. one of those processors is the Intel Atom. Then Intel Atom is found on very low end and cheap PC's, in fact, the cheapest PC's use Intel Atom. ironically, Intel Atom is only found on Flagship Mobile Devices. any phone or tablet that uses Intel Atom is High end. Intel Atom is still used in PC's so the pc can be smaller and portable and also be without a fan, and that will cost a lot in performance. a girl in my class bought a pc will intel atom she could barely do any programming with it, and after we explained it to her, she was almost crying. Microsoft has been working with Qualcomm to bring their Snapdragon chips to Windows so they can make a better compact and light hybrid PC or tablet than Intel Atom offers since on mobile too, snapdragon is ahead on Intel Atom. even the first version of PC's using snapdragon are running Windows 10S out of the box. Windows 10S is the light version of windows which allows you to run apps from the Microsoft store only. you cannot run a full-blown desktop app on it. but you can upgrade to Windows 10 Pro, it's pointless tho. once you open any of photoshop, android studio and the likes, that's the end. even google chrome will be a problem. if you now open FIFA 18, it will just catch fire or explode

All MacBooks use Intel's not A11 or whatever they have on the iPhones. A11 bionic it's just powerful enough for the iPad and iPhone only. and that line you said, was the most ignorant line in your whole reply

and the number of cores is not a difference, my i3 laptop is quad core, the difference is in the structure, the way they were built, just like mobile RAM and PC RAM could be both 4GB but are not the same. an 8-Core Snapdragon or 10-core MediaTek can never do what this 4-cores i3 is doing. and i3, 15, 17, are even laptop processors. Intel Xeon is for desktops and is way more powerful but cannot fit on a laptop. you can never compare an i7 to a Xeon. just like you can never compare Snapdragon 835 to Intel Pentium.

and a core i9 can never be in a smartphone! why? cos the space is not there! so in order to reduce the chip to fit in a smartphone, things from the chip are taken out which also reduces overall performance

it's like comparing a 20mp smartphone camera to a 20mp professional camera, you want to tell me there are the same now? a bigger lens means better picture but such big lens cannot fit on a smartphone and that is why a smartphone camera is never going to be better

an SD card of 200GB is less than an SSD of 200GB and I'm not talking about storage size, I'm talking about performance. heard of Read/Write speed? that is just one of the differentiating factor.

[/s]lol
so many garbage in one long post.
so making component smaller makes them inferior?

its obvious you are the most ignorant mor0n on nairaland.
so because phones are smaller, the component must be inferior? see logic people.
ram in desktop pc must be superior to the ones in laptops because desktop rams are bigger... god you are dumb.

lemme guess, a laptop parking gtx 1080 must be inferior to a destkop with gtx970? cos i didn't read your long meaningless post immediately you made that statement.

a tablet running core 17 must be inferior to laptop or desktop running core 13 or Pentium. .



leave tech talk for smart people kid. It's not for dumb people.

EvilMetahuman:
if you had gone through the discussion carefully, you woulda realized that im not comparing the speed of mobile cpu with that of pc.

thank you.

Well be that as it may, the fact still remains that while I do admit that there are some pc cpu tasks that your mobile cpu can handle, the raspberry pi and similar mini pcs are a testament to that, there are also tasks that your mobile pcs either can't handle or handle frustratingly slow.

By the way i did mention the reason reason why phone cpus haven't attained the clock speeds of pc cpus, and it wasn't because the phone manufacturers are holding it back, it's because of power and heat management. You put the average pc cpu in your phone and if you don't burn the board, you'll probably run down your battery in one-third the time it would last with the normal phone cpu. You think your mediatek cpus are hot? At least they don't need heatsinks. Believe me, the day a phone manufacturer gets a 10ghz cpu that will consume as little battery as the average mobile cpu without generating much heat, they will release it and brag about how superior their phone is to other manufacturers' phones

blackweaver:


Well be that as it may, the fact still remains that while I do admit that there are some pc cpu tasks that your mobile cpu can handle, the raspberry pi and similar mini pcs are a testament to that, there are also tasks that your mobile pcs either can't handle or handle frustratingly slow.

By the way i did mention the reason reason why phone cpus haven't attained the clock speeds of pc cpus, and it wasn't because the phone manufacturers are holding it back, it's because of power and heat management. You put the average pc cpu in your phone and if you don't burn the board, you'll probably run down your battery in one-third the time it would last with the normal phone cpu. You think your mediatek cpus are hot? At least they don't need heatsinks. Believe me, the day a phone manufacturer gets a 10ghz cpu that will consume as little battery as the average mobile cpu without generating much heat, they will release it and brag about how superior their phone is to other manufacturers' phones

finally someone that gets it unlike the ediot that was just posting long jargons.

yeah i know that.
chip manufacturers can actually find a away around heat problem, just that consumers will probably not like the outcome.
and whats the point of having all that juice on phone anyway?
i dont think anyone would wanna play a 4k game on phone at the moment.. you probably wanna do that on a pc with bigger screen.



point i was actually making when i said that was, a cpu in a mobile phone will do the same work as the pc cpu of equal power.
e.g, a snapdragon 835 clocked at 2.5ghz will easily do a job of lets a say 1st gen core i3 of the same clock speed.
not that snapdragon is better than core i7 7th gen.

EvilMetahuman:
[s][/s]lol
so many garbage in one long post.
so making component smaller makes them inferior?

its obvious you are the most ignorant mor0n on nairaland.
so because phones are smaller, the component must be inferior? see logic people.
ram in desktop pc must be superior to the ones in laptops because desktop rams are bigger... god you are dumb.

lemme guess, a laptop parking gtx 1080 must be inferior to a destkop with gtx970? cos i didn't read your long meaningless post immediately you made that statement.

a tablet running core 17 must be inferior to laptop or desktop running core 13 or Pentium. .



leave tech talk for smart people kid. It's not for dumb people.

its obvious you are stupid and do not want to apply sense in what you do.

what point did you make now?

mumu, I said google before replying but its like its links you want shey?

how can you say macbooks use A11 and still have mouth to talk??

you cannot even read with common understanding, I said if there was a way to make RAMs and processor smaller for same performance, every manufacturer will do it cos every one wants to make a smaller device. but your sense cannot understand that

according to what your sense is telling you (and not what is true) is the only reason why i7 is not on mobile is because intel refused to make it smaller for mobile shey??

stupid human being

it annoys me when people are proud of saying rubbish

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PhonePlanet:


its obvious you are stupid and do not want to apply sense in what you do.

what point did you make now?

mumu, I said google before replying but its like its links you want shey?

how can you say macbooks use A11 and still have mouth to talk??

you cannot even read with common understanding, I said if there was a way to make RAMs and processor smaller for same performance, every manufacturer will do it cos every one wants to make a smaller device. but your sense cannot understand that

according to what your sense is telling you (and not what is true) is the only reason why i7 is not on mobile is because intel refused to make it smaller for mobile shey??

stupid human being

it annoys me when people are proud of saying rubbish

[/s]stop flooding my mention with rubbish.

not even reading them.

ranson:


Please Bros,

I like to know this. If my laptop refuses to complete the loading of some websites, what could be the likely problem?

Do I need Ram or Processor up grade?

You might need none of the above, it might just be a slow internet connection. Try leaving it for a while or trying other networks in different locations.

mdee1:
You might need none of the above, it might just be a slow internet connection. Try leaving it for a while or trying other networks in different locations.

Thanks for your response.

I've tried the approach you mentioned but I always experience issue with two particular websites.

I'm thinking maybe because the websites are marketplaces with heavy contents and lots of traffic.

EvilMetahuman:
[s][/s]stop flooding my mention with rubbish.

not even reading them.

Obviously, you are not reading my replies

how will you learn then?

#Ignoranceisadisease

EvilMetahuman:
except for having smaller screens, phones don't have any limitation. it can actually do most of what pc can do.

Yeah Right. Try to edit a 4k video on your phone or a whole movie on your phone or create 3D animations on your phone or play games like GTA V or forza horizon 3 on your phone or run programs like Adobe after effects.

towncheerup:

Yeah Right. Try to edit a 4k video on your phone or a whole movie on your phone or create 3D animations on your phone or play games like GTA V or forza horizon 3 on your phone or run programs like Adobe after effects.

lol don't mind the dumbo

ranson:


Thanks for your response.

I've tried the approach you mentioned but I always experience issue with two particular websites.

I'm thinking maybe because the websites are marketplaces with heavy contents and lots of traffic.

Try using a different browser or installing an adblocker

You are ignorant idiot for thinking that he is wrong, fact �

EvilMetahuman:
[s][/s]lol
so many garbage in one long post.
so making component smaller makes them inferior?

its obvious you are the most ignorant mor0n on nairaland.
so because phones are smaller, the component must be inferior? see logic people.
ram in desktop pc must be superior to the ones in laptops because desktop rams are bigger... god you are dumb.

lemme guess, a laptop parking gtx 1080 must be inferior to a destkop with gtx970? cos i didn't read your long meaningless post immediately you made that statement.

a tablet running core 17 must be inferior to laptop or desktop running core 13 or Pentium. .



leave tech talk for smart people kid. It's not for dumb people.

Abiodunspectre:
My Phantom 8 loads faster than some laptops.

"phone software is like baby sofware...Steve Jobs" you can't compare phone apps with system softwares

EvilMetahuman:
lol
so many garbage in one long post.
so making component smaller makes them inferior?

its obvious you are the most ignorant mor0n on nairaland.
so because phones are smaller, the component must be inferior? see logic people.
ram in desktop pc must be superior to the ones in laptops because desktop rams are bigger... god you are dumb.

lemme guess, a laptop parking gtx 1080 must be inferior to a destkop with gtx970? cos i didn't read your long meaningless post immediately you made that statement.

a tablet running core 17 must be inferior to laptop or desktop running core 13 or Pentium. .



leave tech talk for smart people kid. It's not for dumb people.

Bro, I'm a CSC graduate myself, and everything he said is true. He completely schooled you, and you're here still claiming right?? Please, don't be an ignorant fool.