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Re: Christopher Hitchens by Lucasiangrey(op): 3:07pm On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:
Hahahahaha I will answer even the question you asked that I forget.

I HAVE FELT THE SPIRIT OF GOD. I FEEL HIM ALWAYS. HE IS NOT A PAST EXPERIENCE. HE IS A CONSTANT EXPERIENCE TO GODS OWN.

adeboye and kumuyi are both of the same spirit which is of God but with individual specific assignments. Both bear witness with mine and I see both as my spiritual fathers.
Well,your spirit agrees with theirs but they don't agree with each other ...Reedemers are not against the use of ear ring...Deeper Life condemns it completely!...The same spirit , saying different things?.There is always an escape route , I know.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:10pm On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:
Religion did NOT give birth to science. Which religion gave birth to science and what part of the religious belief and doctrine was used in giving birth to science? Tell us pls.
Christianity gave birth to modern science . In fact , the founders of modern science were Christians . Plus according to studies , most scientific and technical innovations prior to the scientific revolution were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions . Even Buddhists say that science now is like their modernized beliefs . If you read Daniel Goleman's book with Dalai Lama you'd understand better .

Most of the scientific theories were gotten from ancient pagan ideas , modernized religious beliefs . Eg Evolution( first seen in the Mayan culture) , different models of the universe eg the cyclic universe (universe undergoes the Samsara ) etc

Like I said before , you pretend like you know but you don't. I pity people who pay attention to the odorous garbage you spew .
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 3:23pm On Dec 16, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Christianity gave birth to modern science . In fact , the founders of modern science were Christians . Plus according to studies , most scientific and technical innovations prior to the scientific revolution were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions . Even Buddhists say that science now is like their modernized beliefs . If you read Daniel Goleman's book with Dalai Lama you'd understand better .

Most of the scientific theories were gotten from ancient pagan ideas , modernized religious beliefs . Eg Evolution( first seen in the Mayan culture) , different models of the universe eg the cyclic universe (universe undergoes the Samsara ) etc

Like I said before , you pretend like you know but you don't. I pity people who pay attention to the odorous garbage you spew .
You are saying many things with out making any point. Which part of the christian belief or tradition gave birth to biology, physic and chemistry?
Re: Christopher Hitchens by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:40pm On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:
You are saying many things with out making any point. Which part of the christian belief or tradition gave birth to biology, physic and chemistry?
I hope you that science , religion , biology , chemistry are all modern inventions . Prior to the 17th century , these concepts had no names or definite descriptions . Instead , science (with Latin root ~scientia) and religion (Latin root ~ religio) were seen as intrinsic qualities or virtues of a person not as sources of knowledge , doctrines , practices . It was during the 19th century that science was being used to define the study of nature

So during those ancient times , like I said earlier , innovations were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions . They didnt see as the study of nature like we in modern times see it as . They saw it as an expression of our inner qualities as humans .

Its through our modern understanding of science and religion that we understood that what was being practiced before the 17th century was scientific and what was being practiced was religious . And through that understanding , we can say that religion birthed science . Its all about the quest to find truth .
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 3:47pm On Dec 16, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
I hope you that science , religion , biology , chemistry are all modern inventions . Prior to the 17th century , these concepts had no names or definite descriptions . Instead , science (with Latin root ~scientia) and religion (Latin root ~ religio) were seen as intrinsic qualities or virtues of a person not as sources of knowledge , doctrines , practices . It was during the 19th century that science was being used to define the study of nature

So during those ancient times , like I said earlier , innovations were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions . They didnt see as the study of nature like we in modern times see it as . They saw it as an expression of our inner qualities as humans .

Its through our modern understanding of science that we understood that what was being practiced before the 17th century was scientific and what was being practiced was religious . And through that understanding , we can say that religion birthed science . Its all about the quest to find truth .
All you've said is that religion and science were done together back in the days until it was later separated as we gained more knowledge.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 4:19pm On Dec 16, 2017
Lucasiangrey:
Well,your spirit agrees with theirs but they don't agree with each other ...Reedemers are not against the use of ear ring...Deeper Life condemns it completely!...The same spirit , saying different things?.There is always an escape route , I know.
Redeemers are for modesty and never condemn deeper life. Kumuyi is also for modesty and never condemns redeemers. If they were against each other what are they doing together here?

Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 4:21pm On Dec 16, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Christianity gave birth to modern science . In fact , the founders of modern science were Christians . Plus according to studies , most scientific and technical innovations prior to the scientific revolution were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions . Even Buddhists say that science now is like their modernized beliefs . If you read Daniel Goleman's book with Dalai Lama you'd understand better .

Most of the scientific theories were gotten from ancient pagan ideas , modernized religious beliefs . Eg Evolution( first seen in the Mayan culture) , different models of the universe eg the cyclic universe (universe undergoes the Samsara ) etc

Like I said before , you pretend like you know but you don't. I pity people who pay attention to the odorous garbage you spew .
Chai

Re: Christopher Hitchens by frank317: 4:52pm On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:
I was Religious at age 10 but not a Christian. Again you would do well to note the difference grin

Besides nobody taught me about anything. I discovered for myself and chose by myself and have borne the consequences of MY CHOICE by myself.

I know you think everyone is Lilly livered and spineless like you who is tossed about by every wind of doctrine. Just like now that the wind of atheism is your latest cruise ship. cheesy
So u are a born again christian? U are now christlike? Lol. Even christ must be laughing right now.

My friend stop deciving urself. See ur mouth like discover.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 5:24pm On Dec 16, 2017
frank317:
So u are a born again christian? U are now christlike? Lol. Even christ must be laughing right now.

My friend stop deciving urself. See ur mouth like discover.
Yes Being born again all about SELF DISCOVERY. it's not done for you! You do it yourself and for yourself.

Per your first comment all I can is IGNORANCE IS FLOWING IN YOU grin
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 5:58pm On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:
Yes Being born again all about SELF DISCOVERY. it's not done for you! You do it yourself and for yourself.

Per your first comment all I can is IGNORANCE IS FLOWING IN YOU grin
Ogbeni are you Christ like in all things? Stop deceiving yourself.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 6:09pm On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:
Ogbeni are you Christ like in all things? Stop deceiving yourself.
Let me prove your ignorance to you.

Question: How does one become Christ like?
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 6:15pm On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:
Let me prove your ignorance to you.

Question: How does one become Christ like?
Christ like means to be( like ) and display characteristics like the Jesus character whose story we read in the bible.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 6:35pm On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:
Christ like means to be( like ) and display characteristics like the Jesus character whose story we read in the bible.
I said "how does one become christlike" not "what does it mean to be Christlike "?

Do you see how your ignorance is already showing itself? grin
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 6:55pm On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:
I said "how does one become christlike" not "what does it mean to be Christlike "?

Do you see how your ignorance is already showing itself? grin
You are the one shouting christ like. Are you like Christ in all things? Tell us how one becomes Christ like.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by Dohgon(m): 2:49am On Dec 17, 2017
He was a racist Atheist who believed that Africans are incapable of critical thinking which is the cause of our despair and dependance of religion
Re: Christopher Hitchens by frank317: 4:08pm On Dec 17, 2017
dalaman:
You are the one shouting christ like. Are you like Christ in all things? Tell us how one becomes Christ like.
He became christlike when he discovered himself. Once u discover yourself u suddenly become a real Christian.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 4:10pm On Dec 17, 2017
frank317:
He became christlike when he discovered himself. Once u discover yourself u suddenly become a real Christian.
Yeah, once you discover that you are totally deluded. grin
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 4:11pm On Dec 17, 2017
Dohgon:
He was a racist Atheist who believed that Africans are incapable of critical thinking which is the cause of our despair and dependance of religion
Have Africans shown over the board that they are capable of critical thought?
Re: Christopher Hitchens by Dohgon(m): 7:50pm On Dec 17, 2017
dalaman:
Have Africans shown over the board that they are capable of critical thought?
If you judge based on the European perspective of (survival of the fittest) then No, Africans have not shown overall self suffecency. Like all indiginuous people we are Animistic in nature, meaning we try to live in accord with nature, not control and manipulate it. In such a scinereo we are easily manipulated as well. People like Hitchens look and judge without giving credit to the conditions that created their own Mindstate, which is a Calcified Pineal Gland that created low Melatonin in their Brain. Professor MOmOh of the
Dohgon University of Thought, (an African) is the one who recognized that condition. Seratonin is a hormone that facilitates happiness but without the balancing effects of Melatonin people become irrational. They are also more willing to engage in (Risky and Curious) behavior. Two key traits of the White man.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 8:54pm On May 25, 2018
smiley
Re: Christopher Hitchens by CAPSLOCKED: 9:04pm On May 25, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:


SOME QUOTES BY THE AUTHOR OF "GOD IS NOT GREAT"

"I suppose that one reason I have always detested religion is its sly tendency to insinuate the idea that the universe is designed with 'you' in mind or, even worse, that there is a divine plan into which one fits whether one knows it or not. This kind of modesty is too arrogant for me."


"MT [Mother Teresa] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty . She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction."


"What is it you most dislike? Stupidity, especially in its nastiest forms of racism and superstition."


"We keep on being told that religion, whatever its imperfections, at least instills morality. On every side, there is conclusive evidence that the contrary is the case and that faith causes people to be more mean, more selfish, and perhaps above all, more stupid."


"To terrify children with the image of hell, to consider women an inferior creation— is that good for the world?"


" For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him will believeth in anything. - Hitchens 3:16"

DALAMAN BROUGHT US BACK HERE SO.... WE REKINDLE!
Re: Christopher Hitchens by sKeetz(m): 11:13pm On May 25, 2018
Reading through the comments, I can't help but shudder at the way so called Christians like that butterfly guy Lie with impunity all in a bid to defend his imaginary sky daddy who cannot defend himself.

I mean his lies and skewed logic gymnastics is so obvious but he can't help it. That guy should be awarded a doctorate in lies.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 11:35pm On May 25, 2018
sKeetz:
Reading through the comments, I can't help but shudder at the way so called Christians like that butterfly guy Lie with impunity all in a bid to defend his imaginary sky daddy who cannot defend himself.

I mean his lies and skewed logic gymnastics is so obvious but he can't help it. That guy should be awarded a doctorate in lies.
He's the resident Mr lie lie, butterflyliar.
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