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Xbee007:
Don't you see pictures of them on this page or what sort of rhetorical question is this?

CaptainStephen:
There lies the problem, you came to such conclusion without hard evidence but from photos or whatever the case maybe. I don't need to see pictures because I am replying you from inside one of the so called third hand broken down tanks.

CaptainStephen:
There lies the problem, you came to such conclusion without hard evidence but from photos or whatever the case maybe. I don't need to see pictures because I am replying you from inside one of the so called third hand broken down tanks.

tdayof:
Won't take long before DHQ makes you deactivate your account like deathmachine, airborne and others

LTGEN:
Wow this is the quote of the year!
Happy hunting Captain Stephen.��

CaptainStephen:
There lies the problem, you came to such conclusion without hard evidence but from photos or whatever the case maybe. I don't need to see pictures because I am replying you from inside one of the so called third hand broken down tanks.

frumentius:
To be honest, I too would love to see pics of these T-72s "falling into pieces".
As a SA officer, I know the Nigerian military has a lot of problems, but every NA officer with whom I interact speaks of never again allowing the NA to regress.
I'm with CaptainStephen in asking for evidence of such sweeping statements.

CaptainStephen:
Till then I promise to enjoy my time here

iblawi:
Bros, you Dont need to prove anything to anyone just make your comment and leave the rest for the chairborne rangers and I read it on the internet SF.

SupremeCourt:
All of you hailing him are same enemies of progress, that backward mentality army captain guy will buy Nigeria T-55 tanks if he becomes chief of army staff in future. In this 2017, a so called officer boasting inside a 1977 T-72 tank when Algeria is boasting 500 brand new T-90 tanks. Shame on all of you, no wonder when we remove on bad government official from position, the new replacement is equally bad, because you bad people make up 99.99% of this backward nation called Nigeria. I wish I was born in Japan make I no share green passport with shameless people.

SupremeCourt:
All of you hailing him are same enemies of progress, that backward mentality army captain guy will buy Nigeria T-55 tanks if he becomes chief of army staff in future. In this 2017, a so called officer boasting inside a 1977 T-72 tank when Algeria is boasting 500 brand new T-90 tanks. Shame on all of you, no wonder when we remove on bad government official from position, the new replacement is equally bad, because you bad people make up 99.99% of this backward nation called Nigeria. I wish I was born in Japan make I no share green passport with shameless people.

Xbee007:
CaptainStephen
If you are given a choice between a brand new top-of-the-line T-72 tanks in pristine condition, with only factory mileage and a second hand T-72 that has probably been used for years, would you still go for the later? Look, we just want the best, safest and most reliable equipment for our soldiers in the Northeast.
And my point is that they should buy enough of those tanks so we don't overuse the few. It will be a force multiplier.

SupremeCourt:
Mister, you can sit down in any fvcking Nigerian T-72 tank till the day Boko Haram is angry enough to use tank-blaster heat RGP smuggled from Libya, instead of their current ordinary RPG they used to kill a Nigerian army colonel inside his cobra armoured vehicle in 2014, then you will know what is called roasting bonfire when all your own T-72 shells are used to cook everybody in your ancient tank like mallam roasts suya in mammy market.

Open your ignorance blinded eyes and see first image when we bought these third hand tokunbo T-72.
Second image when all the body begin dey scatter, look at vital protective armour parts broken off.
Third image see what other countries T-72 looks like when human beings with common sense and patriotic love of their fatherland are allowed to do procurement of defence items.

Shame of you, boasting of rustic rusted breaking down dry bone T-72 tanks built in 1977 and sold to you as part of $ 2 billion arms deal in 2014 by oyinbo that believes you are getting the low quality you deserve because of your backward mentality. Hate me properly, my name for internet na SupremeCourt, am no soldier, but I have military officer friends who love Nigeria and demand the best for Nigeria, not obsolete junk equipment.

CaptainStephen:
Till then I promise to enjoy my time here

iblawi:
Bros, you Dont need to prove anything to anyone just make your comment and leave the rest for the chairborne rangers and I read it on the internet SF.

LTGEN:
RFLMAO

Xbee007:
CaptainStephen
If you are given a choice between a brand new top-of-the-line T-72 tanks in pristine condition, with only factory mileage and a second hand T-72 that has probably been used for years, would you still go for the later? Look, we just want the best, safest and most reliable equipment for our soldiers in the Northeast.
And my point is that they should buy enough of those tanks so we don't overuse the few. It will be a force multiplier.

SupremeCourt:
I trust you to be 100% with any backward thinking Nigerian that wants obsolete weapons for Nigeria so that South Africa will look better. You will pray hard for Nigeria to buy 100 more second hand used and dumped T-72 from Europe while you lobby your own government to buy Leopard tanks for SANDF. It's in your nature to wish us backwardness so you can sleep and snore aloud every night without fear of a black power rising with T-90 tanks that will make Nigeria the most powerful army down the Sahara region.

andrewza:
Question is. Do you want a tank now or a really good tank 5 years from now

Xbee007:
We want new tanks ASAP. Lol, 5years to make some tanks. Even fighter jets don't take that long to make. So what are you saying?

andrewza:
You think Nigeria is going to jump the line? Sure tanks are built at steady speed but they all bought all ready, this all so excludes negotiations. So yeah if you want a brand new tank it takes time.


Nigeria's T72 are not bad, not for what you need and you could establish a factory In Nigeria to refurbish and upgrade them. Faster and creates jobs.

Xbee007:
We want new tanks ASAP. Lol, 5years to make some tanks. Even fighter jets don't take that long to make. So what are you saying?

homerac7:
Oga, those new tanks are not made and kept in showrooms waiting for buyers. You place an order, it goes through long bureaucracy that takes many months to years, then approval, then start of production, then you get supplied in piecemeal over stretched period of time. God help you the seller country doesn't have national emergency by then or you don't have diplomatic fallout.

Meanwhile, tank in storage takes far lesser time to get approval and delivered since it was ready build, mostly functioning and already planned/considered for shedding off.

T90 = remodelled T72

....whereas , T72 is the workhorse of any Russian built tank using army anywhere in the world. It is what C130 is to most air force mobility command, to Russian equipped army armour battalion.

T72 & T55 make up larger fraction of Russian Army tank inventory. Those are their real work horses. In fact, the latest upgrade of T72 matches T90 toe to toe in every performance, and edges it on proven history.

All said, what you probably should be thinking is getting large number of well preserved T72 and upgrading good numbers to latest configuration. That's far more effective and efficient than waiting for fancy T90, Armata or even Leopard 2 (which you might never get due to past experiences with NATO). There's something calls "high-low" mix in equipment planning. Good number of regular armoured T72s + upgraded T72 + maybe down initial payment for "tropicalized" Armata you/we hope to introduce in another 10-15yrs, when some of the T72s, Vickers and Scorpions would have been finally scrapped. By the way, remember to make provision for light tank replacement for the Scorpions too.

For the @SupremeCourt guy yapping everything he knows by half, how can you make a clear intentionally mischievous comparison of what Algeria spend in just ONE year with what Nigeria spent in over TEN years? Them no teach you basic data analysis for school? Yes, I agree that Nigeria has mostly punched below her weight, but you spoke to the other gentleman so rudely and failed to answer his very simple question. It shows who's smarter between you two, of course. Please learn to be courteous to people EVERYWHERE and make your point/argument as polite and clear as possible. We can't all agree on all issues, moreover the person you are debating with is a USER of the materiel in discussion, not even Russian Army chief of armoured corps will have that arguement with him , he can only LISTEN and LEARN when the hands-on end user is talking about the equipment.

Peace to all people of peace

homerac7:
Oga, those new tanks are not made and kept in showrooms waiting for buyers. You place an order, it goes through long bureaucracy that takes many months to years, then approval, then start of production, then you get supplied in piecemeal over stretched period of time. God help you the seller country doesn't have national emergency by then or you don't have diplomatic fallout.

Meanwhile, tank in storage takes far lesser time to get approval and delivered since it was ready build, mostly functioning and already planned/considered for shedding off.

T90 = remodelled T72

....whereas , T72 is the workhorse of any Russian built tank using army anywhere in the world. It is what C130 is to most air force mobility command, to Russian equipped army armour battalion.

T72 & T55 make up larger fraction of Russian Army tank inventory. Those are their real work horses. In fact, the latest upgrade of T72 matches T90 toe to toe in every performance, and edges it on proven history.

All said, what you probably should be thinking is getting large number of well preserved T72 and upgrading good numbers to latest configuration. That's far more effective and efficient than waiting for fancy T90, Armata or even Leopard 2 (which you might never get due to past experiences with NATO). There's something calls "high-low" mix in equipment planning. Good number of regular armoured T72s + upgraded T72 + maybe down initial payment for "tropicalized" Armata you/we hope to introduce in another 10-15yrs, when some of the T72s, Vickers and Scorpions would have been finally scrapped. By the way, remember to make provision for light tank replacement for the Scorpions too.

For the @SupremeCourt guy yapping everything he knows by half, how can you make a clear intentionally mischievous comparison of what Algeria spend in just ONE year with what Nigeria spent in over TEN years? Them no teach you basic data analysis for school? Yes, I agree that Nigeria has mostly punched below her weight, but you spoke to the other gentleman so rudely and failed to answer his very simple question. It shows who's smarter between you two, of course. Please learn to be courteous to people EVERYWHERE and make your point/argument as polite and clear as possible. We can't all agree on all issues, moreover the person you are debating with is a USER of the materiel in discussion, not even Russian Army chief of armoured corps will have that arguement with him , he can only LISTEN and LEARN when the hands-on end user is talking about the equipment.

Peace to all people of peace

andrewza:
You think Nigeria is going to jump the line? Sure tanks are built at steady speed but they all bought all ready, this all so excludes negotiations. So yeah if you want a brand new tank it takes time.


Nigeria's T72 are not bad, not for what you need and you could establish a factory In Nigeria to refurbish and upgrade them. Faster and creates jobs.

homerac7:
Oga, those new tanks are not made and kept in showrooms waiting for buyers. You place an order, it goes through long bureaucracy that takes many months to years, then approval, then start of production, then you get supplied in piecemeal over stretched period of time. God help you the seller country doesn't have national emergency by then or you don't have diplomatic fallout.

Meanwhile, tank in storage takes far lesser time to get approval and delivered since it was ready build, mostly functioning and already planned/considered for shedding off.

T90 = remodelled T72

....whereas , T72 is the workhorse of any Russian built tank using army anywhere in the world. It is what C130 is to most air force mobility command, to Russian equipped army armour battalion.

T72 & T55 make up larger fraction of Russian Army tank inventory. Those are their real work horses. In fact, the latest upgrade of T72 matches T90 toe to toe in every performance, and edges it on proven history.

All said, what you probably should be thinking is getting large number of well preserved T72 and upgrading good numbers to latest configuration. That's far more effective and efficient than waiting for fancy T90, Armata or even Leopard 2 (which you might never get due to past experiences with NATO). There's something calls "high-low" mix in equipment planning. Good number of regular armoured T72s + upgraded T72 + maybe down initial payment for "tropicalized" Armata you/we hope to introduce in another 10-15yrs, when some of the T72s, Vickers and Scorpions would have been finally scrapped. By the way, remember to make provision for light tank replacement for the Scorpions too.

For the @SupremeCourt guy yapping everything he knows by half, how can you make a clear intentionally mischievous comparison of what Algeria spend in just ONE year with what Nigeria spent in over TEN years? Them no teach you basic data analysis for school? Yes, I agree that Nigeria has mostly punched below her weight, but you spoke to the other gentleman so rudely and failed to answer his very simple question. It shows who's smarter between you two, of course. Please learn to be courteous to people EVERYWHERE and make your point/argument as polite and clear as possible. We can't all agree on all issues, moreover the person you are debating with is a USER of the materiel in discussion, not even Russian Army chief of armoured corps will have that arguement with him , he can only LISTEN and LEARN when the hands-on end user is talking about the equipment.

Peace to all people of peace

homerac7:
Oga, those new tanks are not made and kept in showrooms waiting for buyers. You place an order, it goes through long bureaucracy that takes many months to years, then approval, then start of production, then you get supplied in piecemeal over stretched period of time. God help you the seller country doesn't have national emergency by then or you don't have diplomatic fallout.

Meanwhile, tank in storage takes far lesser time to get approval and delivered since it was ready build, mostly functioning and already planned/considered for shedding off.

T90 = remodelled T72

....whereas , T72 is the workhorse of any Russian built tank using army anywhere in the world. It is what C130 is to most air force mobility command, to Russian equipped army armour battalion.

T72 & T55 make up larger fraction of Russian Army tank inventory. Those are their real work horses. In fact, the latest upgrade of T72 matches T90 toe to toe in every performance, and edges it on proven history.

All said, what you probably should be thinking is getting large number of well preserved T72 and upgrading good numbers to latest configuration. That's far more effective and efficient than waiting for fancy T90, Armata or even Leopard 2 (which you might never get due to past experiences with NATO). There's something calls "high-low" mix in equipment planning. Good number of regular armoured T72s + upgraded T72 + maybe down initial payment for "tropicalized" Armata you/we hope to introduce in another 10-15yrs, when some of the T72s, Vickers and Scorpions would have been finally scrapped. By the way, remember to make provision for light tank replacement for the Scorpions too.

For the @SupremeCourt guy yapping everything he knows by half, how can you make a clear intentionally mischievous comparison of what Algeria spend in just ONE year with what Nigeria spent in over TEN years? Them no teach you basic data analysis for school? Yes, I agree that Nigeria has mostly punched below her weight, but you spoke to the other gentleman so rudely and failed to answer his very simple question. It shows who's smarter between you two, of course. Please learn to be courteous to people EVERYWHERE and make your point/argument as polite and clear as possible. We can't all agree on all issues, moreover the person you are debating with is a USER of the materiel in discussion, not even Russian Army chief of armoured corps will have that arguement with him , he can only LISTEN and LEARN when the hands-on end user is talking about the equipment.

Peace to all people of peace