tdayof:

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MAYBE if I have Dangote's type of wealth, I would have given out $2BN. Mr Aliko Dangote just made a $50B investment in Europe and USA. Who knows he might be reading this and surprise us

Dayo!! Dayo!! ma pa mi Iwo omo yi

fufubear:
T72 isn't even a bad tank. The T90, at it's base model, is literally a T72B. Having a T90 or T72 will not substantially effect any progress in the NE. Boko Haram are not shooting high performance ATGMs they are probably stuck with only base model RPG-7s or maybe an upgraded RPG-7V if they are lucky. Both of those will struggle with the front of a T72. Sure they can get in through the side but so can just about anything can get through the side of a modern MBT.

Now as for the pics of T72s in bad state. Most of those issues only look superficial. Missing a splashguard will not effect the tanks performances (just makes it a pain to clean and requires more frequent cleaning). Missing ERA blocks is a simple fix and isn't even worth mentioning. The only proof to the tanks falling apart would be to mention the readiness percentage of an armored division but if it's anything like the US (and I'm sure it is) you'd have to be the unit quartermaster or in the Headquarters unit to know that info as that's highly confidential.

Now imo if there were to be more tanks bought I would say either buy some high quality T72Bs and T90s or go with a Chinese Type 99. NATO is out of the question so no point even considering them and getting. T14 is unlikely since the Russians are having issues funding production for themselves. I doubt they would start selling T14s to anyone else.

The pot holes on Lagos Benin expressway started at the size of a rat, Nigerian government said its not a big problem, road must spoil when its used everyday. Till the pot holes increased to size of a cow and hundreds of Nigerians died in accidents and some robbed raped killed by armed robbers when they slow down to climb in and out of those pot holes at night.

Keep defending NA T-72 that has many parts of armour fallen off exposing the soldiers inside to Boko Haram RPG hits that will blow up all the ammunition storage in the tank and burn our troops to ashes. Their lives don't matter, it's not your own son that will die, and it's not brigadier generals or senators that will die in our T-72 that now have less armour than the intelligent white man made to protect weak points of the tank.

I blame my mother wey no born me for Japan, to be a Nigerian is a shame when you see how Nigerians think backwards.

chunk of the money would be spent on the acquisition of military equipment and capacity building for the militaries of "neighbouring countries"
http://thenationonlineng.net/boko-haram-necs-1b-approval-order-says-defence-minister/

how many T 72 nigerian army have ? 50 received in 2014?

Odunayaw:
You guys are rewriting the mode of mechanized warfare. Jeez! Tanks in COIN? Really?
The T-72 you see today is because we lack proper mechanized assets. No one is talking IFVs and AFVs.

1.loss of surprise element , tanks r noisy , targets alerted
2.big logistic footprint , places a burden on operations , eats into efficiency
3.tank gunnery is hard pressed to locate fix and fire on small sized fleeting targets
4.risk of fratricide due to the nature of ammo used and close in encounters
5.demoralizing effect , losing even a single tank will effect the operations , while the tank protects u , who protects the tank
6.limited all round observation , totally minimized during hatch down conditions
7.no 'frontline' , in COIN ops hostiles r smart enough to pop up where u least expect them , some times everywhere
8.tank can be overwhelmed by dispersed dismounted insurgents converging in close proximity especially while utilizing 'hugging' tactic
9.there is a limit to gun barrel depression and elevation, can be exploited by smart insurgents based on terrain etc
10.susceptible to limitations imposed by operational environment
11.tanks r generally used as PIVOTs during coin ops, immobilize the pivot , generally everything gets immobilized , not necessarily though
12.false sense of invulnerability , not necessarily though
etc
etc

note : it is my personal opinion , i may be wrong

Xbee007:
Fufubear, we have to start thinking long-term. ISIS is under intense pressure in the middle east, slowly they are moving towards other safe havens where they can operate with impunity. Nigeria is on their top destination. What if ISIS decides to gift the BHT some ATGMs or some other deadly weapons in their inventort? Is that when we will start discussing buying T-90? If we don't finish this Boko mess now it will be disastrous in the future.

Sure. You can think long term. Long term doesn't say T72 is junk and needs to be replaced now though. T72 and T90 have the same gun and fire the same ammo. They both can mount the same armor package too. With the T90 you only really get some other upgrades like SHTORA (which is pretty expensive to operate). The cost to upgrade to T90 isn't justified. Besides, I'd rather go China instead.

The noose on ISIS is tightening. They are not really in the position to be gifting high quality ATGMS.

SupremeCourt:


The pot holes on Lagos Benin expressway started at the size of a rat, Nigerian government said its not a big problem, road must spoil when its used everyday. Till the pot holes increased to size of a cow and hundreds of Nigerians died in accidents and some robbed raped killed by armed robbers when they slow down to climb in and out of those pot holes at night.

Keep defending NA T-72 that has many parts of armour fallen off exposing the soldiers inside to Boko Haram RPG hits that will blow up all the ammunition storage in the tank and burn our troops to ashes. Their lives don't matter, it's not your own son that will die, and it's not brigadier generals or senators that will die in our T-72 that now have less armour than the intelligent white man made to protect weak points of the tank.

I blame my mother wey no born me for Japan, to be a Nigerian is a shame when you see how Nigerians think backwards.

Look, there is no hole in any armor plate on the T72 because that would be a deadlining fault for any nation (because at that point the tank doesn't serve it's purpose). The tank in the pictures are either missing sideskirts or splash guards. Those are all routine/optional features. That's not a sign of a vehicle in bad shape, it's a sign of a vehicle being used in the field. War isn't clean, go look at real operational photos of ww2 or any other large conflict. Not all the vehicles will be in factory fresh condition because it's simply impossible.

Xbee007:

I actually went through his post again before quoting you and the only place he mentioned Abram tank was when he was attesting to the fact that they are performing badly against the Houthis in Yemen. Maybe, I missed the part that you are all talking about.

Thank you.I mentioned the point because Supreme Court who obviously does not know how to argue a point without insulting somebody believes he and only he knows the answer to all of Nigeria's problem.
He has become an amusement commodity on this blog where if you disagree with his comments somehow you are less of a Nigerian.
Tank Technology at it's base has not changed since WW2.
The infatuation he has with the T90 simply shows his ignorance.The enemy we are fighting at best has a few stolen apcs and Toyota trucks.
Nigeria is fighting an asymmetric war not pitched Tank Battles.
An Army officer came on this blog and totally discredited him .I discredited with the numerous ambushes that the Yemenis and Houthis have had on the Heaviest Tank in the World the M1 Abrams his response ? They are old Tanks Lol.

By all means buy new Tanks.The war will end when the main leaders of bh are captured or killed and that comes from better intelligence and better Military commanders.
Maj Gen Nichols is an example of what is needed to end this war.

IFV and more MRAPs should be at the fore front of this discussion.

fufubear:

The noose on ISIS is tightening. They are not really in the position to be gifting high quality ATGMS.


Look, there is no hole in any armor plate on the T72 because that would be a deadlining fault for any nation (because at that point the tank doesn't serve it's purpose). The tank in the pictures are either missing sideskirts or splash guards. Those are all routine/optional features. That's not a sign of a vehicle in bad shape, it's a sign of a vehicle being used in the field. War isn't clean, go look at real operational photos of ww2 or any other large conflict. Not all the vehicles will be in factory fresh condition because it's simply impossible.

New CIA and UN reports on CNN, Al-Jazeera, BBC is that ISIS is losing in Arabia and migrating down to Africa, including West Africa to find easier targets like Niger, Sudan, Mali or your rusted T-72 boasting Nigeria. Planning ahead to defeat danger flowing to your country, is strange doctrine to block heads like you, to you all it looks foolish to be wise and avoid habit of fire brigade looking for water when house has burned people to death, you never get your water and chemicals in advance and right quantity, that is your black man curse since A.D. 1706.

All of you shouting T-72 is almost same as T-90 are pure breed mugus. T-90 Self defence shtora is easy to remove and store if you dont need it till terrorists bring anti-tank missiles. T-90 has new ammunition storage protection to avoid blowing itself up and cooking our soldiers with their own explosive shells, new model 125mm gun, shtora missile blocker, new model 8km range camera, new model 5km range gun camera, new passive mixed amour, all those are missing from T-72 you block head! Dem swear for you from village or MTN block your internet you cannot google T-90?

Are you blind or just an idiiot? That Nigerian T-72 is ERA model and over 60 pieces of its ERA armour have fallen off and disappeared completely exposing the tank to RPG that Boko Haram can use to cook all the ammunition inside and kill those innocent soldiers

Look at image A when our T-72 arrived all ERA complete, next image B when the ERA began to fall away one by one with no replacement till image C when all the ERA armour broke off pata pata and vanished from the whole side and half of the front, the only remaining ERA are the ones on the turret, that is a Nigerian ERA model T-72 stripped half naked by overdose of work.

I said Nigerian T-72 tanks are breaking into pieces and fools are telling me I am wrong. Until 100 Nigerian soldiers die inside those broken armour T-72 before you call for T-90? Bros go river side ask prophet to wash ya head for you before it is too late.

lionel4power:
IT IS A SAD THING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE PRAISING T-72 MBT AT THIS DAY AND AGE


GOD HELP US

You didn't follow from the beginning I guess. SupremeCourt claimed Nigeria's T-72 tanks are falling apart and he was asked to prove his claims. He ended up trying to make things look like T-72 tanks are useless in COIN and we all hate T-90 tanks because we are black men, we don't like progress etc.

He successfully moved the discussion to his comfort zone while dodging the main question he was asked.

For me $1 billion isn't that much and buying some Russian SU-30/mig 35, yak_130, and more MRAPs to replace the hilux will help the military a lot. We haven't even talked of other procurement/expenses the military can't run from and the money is almost finished. Someone is here claiming T-90 must be bought because T-72 are falling apart because of 1pic he saw on Internet.

SupremeCourt:
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Are you blind or just an idiiot? That Nigerian T-72 is ERA model and all the ERA armour have fallen off and disappeared completely exposing the tank to easy RPG that Boko Haram can use to cook all the ammunition inside and kill those innocent soldiers

Bros we're not gullible here. ZTE transoorted our T-72s which was later flown with Ukraine AN it's on their website. The T72 shipped to Nigeria from Hungary have no ERA.


STOP LYING MAN


http://zte.pl/en/news/t-72s-transported-zte

iblawi:


You didn't follow from the beginning I guess. SupremeCourt claimed Nigeria's T-72 tanks are falling apart and he was asked to prove his claims. He ended up trying to make things look like T-72 tanks are useless in COIN and we all hate T-90 tanks because we are black men, we don't like progress etc.

He successfully moved the discussion to his comfort zone while dodging the main question he was asked.

Look up this page idiiot, I have posted the photos of Nigerian T-72 with 60 missing ERA blocks that fell off never replaced, look up this page I posted 3 photos joined together of our tanks when they arrived and what they have fallen to now. Keep lying to yourself, una no get shame, the proofs are here, you still deny. Quote me where I said T-72 is useless in COIN, I am the one who has repeated it worked for us in 2014-2015 but not guaranteed to work in 2020 if Shekau steps up his game. I said dont replace tokunbo T-72 with another tokunbo T-72 if you have any common sense or value for the life of Nigerian soldiers whose parents will bury if the die avoidable death.

Quote where I said T-72 is uselss in COIN, your value in Libya market is down to $200 bros!

Maybe I should thank Dasuki for taking this pictures after delivery. Maybe Mr Dasuki ate the ERA.

tdayof:


Bros we're not gullible here. ZTE transoorted our T-72s which was later flown with Ukraine AN it's on their website. The T72 shipped to Nigeria from Hungary have no ERA.

STOP LYING MAN

http://zte.pl/en/news/t-72s-transported-zte

Where did I ever say all Nigerian tanks have ERA, or did I tell you I am a blind man who does not see that we also have T-72 model imported without ERA?

I wont repeat same comment, look up this page, I posted 3 photos joined together of Nigerian T-72 ERA model when it arrived, when the ERA armour began to fall off one by one, and final disappearance of 60 ERA blocks on one tank!

STOP BEING A FOOL BROS, justify the money spent to send you to school.

SupremeCourt:


40 year old T-72 tank in storage, sold by Russia to Czech republic then resold to Hungary, then re-re-sold again to Nigeria as Africa is always the final dumping ground for European junk metal. Oyinbo wan piss you open ya black mouth he urinate inside. Never used in battle means what? See image of Russian T-72 that has been used rough how it still looks.

Those amour parts falling off missing from Nigerian T-72 tanks are easy entrance hole that Boko Haram RPG go take enter reach the ammunition storage of T-72 which is the deadly weak point of all T-72 tanks, it will blow up the whole tank from inside and burn all our soldiers to ashes. Same way the idiiot NAF air marshals were defending alpha jet that has no armour until wing commander Hedema was shot down like bush hunter shoot pigeons from thsy sky, and a university graduate pilot was beheaded in public by illiterate terrorists and video shown to the whole world on internet. You people never learn, black man is born backward, you will never ever learn lesson.

SupremeCourt:


T-72 is not bad? There are free You Tube videos of T-72 ammunition storage blowing up itself and burning all the soldiers inside to ashes because terrorists are now wiser than armies.

Why is your own SANDF not buying these 'Not bad T-72 tanks' for you own army? Make up a nice excuse, and assume I am a fool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqcgAwhpf0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_kIow3ayww

Do I need to post more?

You are worthless as a slave in South Sudan.

iblawi:


Do I need to post more?

You are worthless as a slave in South Sudan.

I said T-72 is a bad tank when its ammunition storage is hit by anti-tank, it blows itself up, and that is truth proved by the war videos.

I did not say it is useless in COIN against Boko Haram that has no anti-tank as at today. Quote me saying T-72 is useless in COIN or else Libyans will donate you for free to farm work at no dollar value, they wont pay for junk.

SupremeCourt:


Where did I ever say all Nigerian tanks have ERA, or did I tell you I am a blind man who does not see that we also have T-72 model imported without ERA?

I wont repeat same comment, look up this page, I posted 3 photos joined together of Nigerian T-72 ERA model when it arrived, when the ERA armour began to fall off one by one, and final disappearance of 60 ERA blocks on one tank!

STOP BEING A FOOL BROS, justify the money spent to send you to school.

Keep fooling yourself.

If you know some came without ERA and still haven't blown up for over 3 years in active combat then why do you want to kill yourself?

iblawi:


Keep fooling yourself.

If you know some came without ERA and still haven't blown up for over 3 years in active combat then why do you want to kill yourself?

You are the fool that wants to wait for Boko Haram to step up their game and get ISIS anti-tanks to blow up a dozen Nigerian T-72 so that other people's sons will die at age 30 yrs leaving wives and babies behind, then you will call for Nigeria to do the usual medicine after death fire brigade system to buy us T-90.

You no get any proactive and predictive intelligence at all, so in Libya market the final auction bell rings over your empty head and no buyer, you are donated to farm owners as free labourer.

SupremeCourt:


You are the fool that wants to wait for Boko Haram to step up their game and get ISIS anti-tanks to blow up a dozen Nigerian T-72 so that other people's sons will die at age 30 yrs leaving wives and babies behind, then you will call for Nigeria to do the usual medicine after death fire brigade system to buy us T-90.

You no get any proactive and predictive intelligence at all, so in Libya market the final auction bell rings over your empty head and no buyer, you are donated to farm owners as free labourer.

It's worthless replying you. You're just a waste of time.

The self proclaimed American researcher is somewhere in Singapore or where is it called telling DHQ what to do.


Common sense doesn't seems to be common. As you can see the ERA are being hit by RPG.

Mr, all this English stuff and dumb write-up of yours makes no meaning. Priorities first, we have enough tanks to pound BHT.

Yes we need to start equipping our military for future threats but as for now, we need to take our boys out of those skinny Toyota and get then MRAPS, AFV, IFV to pound BHT positions.

A whole shilka is more dangerous in the North East than a T-14 armata . So we need to equip IFV, AFV and not tanks for now.

When getting tanks, we should get some ACV with tank killer capabilities.

Augububu Augububu Augububu

iblawi:


It's worthless replying you. You're just a waste of time.

Greatest discovery of the day bro

How can someone be so incoherent

SupremeCourt:


New CIA and UN reports on CNN, Al-Jazeera, BBC is that ISIS is losing in Arabia and migrating down to Africa, including West Africa to find easier targets like Niger, Sudan, Mali or your rusted T-72 boasting Nigeria. Planning ahead to defeat danger flowing to your country, is strange doctrine to block heads like you, to you all it looks foolish to be wise and avoid habit of fire brigade looking for water when house has burned people to death, you never get your water and chemicals in advance and right quantity, that is your black man curse since A.D. 1706.

If they are losing and migrating to Affrica then they certainly won't have their high quality equipment. They would just be adding more bodies to the conflict.

All of you shouting T-72 is almost same as T-90 are pure breed mugus. T-90 Self defence shtora is easy to remove and store if you dont need it till terrorists bring anti-tank missiles. T-90 has new ammunition storage protection to avoid blowing itself up and cooking our soldiers with their own explosive shells, new model 125mm gun, shtora missile blocker, new model 8km range camera, new model 5km range gun camera, new passive mixed amour, all those are missing from T-72 you block head! Dem swear for you from village or MTN block your internet you cannot google T-90?

T-90 has the same ammunition protection. The issue with the ammo of the T-72/T-90 is it's carousel. That was only changed on the T-14. Both tanks use the same 2a46 125mm gun. You can equip that other stuff on a T-72B (aka a T-90).

Are you blind or just an idiiot? That Nigerian T-72 is ERA model and over 60 pieces of its ERA armour have fallen off and disappeared completely exposing the tank to RPG that Boko Haram can use to cook all the ammunition inside and kill those innocent soldiers

That's not proof of a tank falling apart. ERA is an easy fix.

Look at image A when our T-72 arrived all ERA complete, next image B when the ERA began to fall away one by one with no replacement till image C when all the ERA armour broke off pata pata and vanished from the whole side and half of the front, the only remaining ERA are the ones on the turret, that is a Nigerian ERA model T-72 stripped half naked by overdose of work.

and how will a T-90 fix this issue? A T-90 relies on ERA just as much. Maybe you should be asking for an ERA plant to be established instead of T-90s?

I said Nigerian T-72 tanks are breaking into pieces and fools are telling me I am wrong. Until 100 Nigerian soldiers die inside those broken armour T-72 before you call for T-90? Bros go river side ask prophet to wash ya head for you before it is too late.

They are not breaking into pieces. They are just being used.

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Habane:
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1st pic, where is that?

Habane:
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Last pic. the brigade brought itself out

PMB extend the tenure of Service Chiefs for the second time.
http://thenationonlineng.net/buhari-extends-tenure-service-chiefs-2/