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casualobserver1:
Voicing out isn't enough, he should have deployed bribes and anything else. As the president of the country with the most to lose, the buck stops with him.

The Ikoyi loot could have been used to buy the votes of countries like Benin, Niger, Guinea, and other small countries.

This is a strategic disaster for Nigeria and it happened under Buhari's watch. That is the key fact.

bribes? do you even understand your own comment? you need serious reorientation

The report is fake, Morocco wasn't discussed at the meeting, the agreement in principle was established 6 months ago. Since that time, there has been silence. ECOWAS was supposed to conclude Morocco's accession in November, then it was pushed to December, now it's been pushed to 2018.

ECOWAS don't look keen on Morocco anymore, because of the economic implications it'll have on Nigeria, primarily.

Jaideyone:
bribes? do you even understand your own comment? you need serious reorientation

In the game of politics, when long term interests are at stake, all methods must be employed. The leaders of the countries I mentioned are broke. Giving bribes in the form of raw cash or foreign aid is a normal method of influence in the political world. Please ask around.

casualobserver1:
In the game of politics, when long term interests are at stake, all methods must be employed. The leaders of the countries I mentioned are broke. Giving bribes in the form of raw cash or foreign aid is a normal method of influence in the political world. Please ask around.

including corruption? and what will happen if such corrupt practices become public knowledge?

morocco has already joined ecowas.....politicians are only testing the water....

fact remains,nigerians are divided on this matter....other west african nations are not complaining the last i checked....

its not only nigeria that is in ecowas,you nigerians seem to always forget that fact...the matter was already voted by the representatives of member countries,and morocco was accepted....

ecowas is just playing diplomatics...thats all....

Jaideyone:
including corruption? and what will happen if such corrupt practices become public knowledge?

Absolutely nothing. Making cash payments to assets is something that has been going on for ages. CIA pays cash to key agents and assets and when people find out nothing happens.

Foreign aid is paid out to countries that are known to embezzle it and nothing happens. Giving them the money can be done in myriad ways. It is a legitimate approach to buying influence all over the world.

casualobserver1:
Absolutely nothing. Making cash payments to assets is something that has been going on for ages. CIA pays cash to key agents and assets and when people find out nothing happens.

Foreign aid is paid out to countries that are known to embezzle it and nothing happens. Giving them the money can be done in myriad ways. It is a legitimate approach to buying influence all over the world.

you guys advocating bribes are something else

baralatie:
you guys advocating bribes are something else

Please don't look at it that way. It is Al about political realism.

casualobserver1:
Please don't look at it that way. It is Al about political realism.

political realism is when the nation will not end up been fried in the international community.

Nigeria is or will not lose grip of her leadership in the committee of African nations,except,they lost sense of reasoning,on which modernity of developmental reality is heading to.then,morocco,can take advantages of that,to maneuver powers to themselves,aligning with Arab bloc to achieved that.

tsdarkside:
morocco has already joined ecowas.....politicians are only testing the water....

fact remains,nigerians are divided on this matter....other west african nations are not complaining the last i checked....

its not only nigeria that is in ecowas,you nigerians seem to always forget that fact...the matter was already voted by the representatives of member countries,and morocco was accepted....

ecowas is just playing diplomatics...thats all....

Yes, but Nigeria pays for ECOWAS and accounts for 75% of the ECOWAS economy. Morocco wants to join ECOWAS so it can gain access to the Nigerian market. So how can you say Nigeria doesn't have the biggest say?

If Morocco joins ECOWAS, then the EU will be able to access the ECOWAS market, something they've been unable to do, since Nigeria refused to sign the EPA. The EU will be able to setup shop in Morocco and flood the ECOWAS market, killing pretty much all the industries in Nigeria. Thousands of Nigerians will lose their jobs...is that what you want?

What nation or groups of people, make decisions that are against their own best interest? Nigeria gains nothing from Morocco joining ECOWAS, but Morocco gains a whole heap from its admission; so their behaviour makes sense, all those nations considering it, i.e. smaller African nations, they're fine, because they have no interest in industrialising, whereas Nigeria does.

rdokoye:
Yes, but Nigeria pays for ECOWAS and accounts for 75% of the ECOWAS economy. Morocco wants to join ECOWAS so it can gain access to the Nigerian market. So how can you say Nigeria doesn't have the biggest say?

If Morocco joins ECOWAS, then the EU will be able to access the ECOWAS market, something they've been unable to do, since Nigeria refused to sign the EPA. The EU will be able to setup shop in Morocco and flood the ECOWAS market, killing pretty much all the industries in Nigeria. Thousands of Nigerians will lose their jobs...is that what you want?

What nation or groups of people, make decisions that are against their own best interest? Nigeria gains nothing from Morocco joining ECOWAS, but Morocco gains a whole heap from its admission; so their behaviour makes sense, all those nations considering it, i.e. smaller African nations, they're fine, because they have no interest in industrialising, whereas Nigeria does.

and i repeat again:

europe dont need morocco to enter whatever.....nigeria is soooo corrupt,they dont need nobody to enter anything...

with laws europe cant do anything even if morocco joins....only morocco joined not europe....

when we obey our own laws,then we have nothing to be scared about.....morocco doesnt produce much...somebody said they are more into agriculture and tourism....how can nigeria be scared of that....?

cost of ecowas should be shared...or we can just leave ecowas completly if we are this scared....

scared of competition....ridiculous....

tsdarkside:
when we obey our own laws,then we have nothing to be scared about.....morocco doesnt produce much...somebody said they are more into agriculture and tourism....how can nigeria be scared of that....?

cost of ecowas should be shared...or we can just leave ecowas completly if we are this scared....

scared of competition....ridiculous....

You are very funny.

Do you really know what Regional power means in International relations?

Allowing Morocco into the Ecowas region, is slowly merging West Africa with North Africa.

Taking into consideration that West Africa in relatively peaceful compared to Northern Africa.

OBAGADAFFI:
You are very funny.

Do you really know what Regional power means in International relations?

Allowing Morocco into the Ecowas region, is slowly merging West Africa with North Africa.

Taking into consideration that West Africa in relatively peaceful compared to Northern Africa.

what do you have against that...??...

even middle east is part of africa....

it doesnt matter...we are talking about a economical union....north africa is part of au already.....

some people just dont think...south africa is already in something similar....i dont know the other nations off head but south africa is already in something like ecowas with nations that are not even in africa sef....

tsdarkside:
some people just dont think...south africa is already in something similar....i dont know the other nations off head but south africa is already in something like ecowas with nations that are not even in africa sef....

Name this union?

rdokoye:
Name this union?

i dont remember....i dont care about south africa.....but i know they are in such a union....

tsdarkside:
what do you have against that...??...

even middle east is part of africa....

it doesnt matter...we are talking about a economical union....north africa is part of au already.....

I have everything against that.

West Africa is economically better with Southern Africa than the North.

Do you Know how peaceful and prosperous Nigeria will be, if we are not in the same country with the North.

Northern Africa got no economic advantages to the ECOWAS.

OBAGADAFFI:
I have everything against that.

West Africa is economically better with Southern Africa than the North.

Do you Know how peaceful and prosperous Nigeria will be, if we are not in the same country with the North.

Northern Africa got no economic advantages to the ECOWAS.

but south africa dont want to be toghether with you.....you disgust them...capish....??...


kiiiikikikikikikiki..... ....you people are sooo funny.... ....

tsdarkside:
but south africa dont want to be toghether with you.....you disgust them...capish....??...


kiiiikikikikikikiki..... ....you people are sooo funny.... ....

Where did you get the information from?

Don't tell me you are using the schools of few people to justify the rest.

Few Nigerians are suffering in SA the same way they are suffering all-over the continent.

Nigeria is one of SA biggest trading partners, close down all SA companies on Nigerian and see the diplomatic reactions from thier President.

OBAGADAFFI:
Where did you get the information from?

Don't tell me you are using the schools of few people to justify the rest.

Few Nigerians are suffering in SA the same way they are suffering all-over the continent.

Nigeria is one of SA biggest trading partners, close down all SA companies on Nigerian and see the diplomatic reactions from thier President.

now i remember...its called brics.....russia,india,brasilia and others.....

now i ask you,are those mentioned nations on african soil...??....get it now...??....

SSBN:
ECOWAS Accepts Morocco’s Bid for Membership !


Leaders from Ecowas gathered for a round table discussion as ECOWAS. Top in the agenda :
West African migrant crises in Libya

Militancy in the Sahel

Regional trade.

Nigeria’s President in his address urged members of the regional body to reaffirm their efforts towards the return of stranded migrants in North Africa. After hours of discussion the leaders agreed to uphold political stability while aiding in the peaceful transfer of power in Guinea Bissau.

President Buhari announced the gradual withdrawal of Nigerian troops from peace keeping in Guinea Bissau, calling for independent elections. He described concerns that the political deadlock is taking its toll on the people and the resources of member states, particularly troops from contributing countries to the ECOWAS mission in Guinea Bissau. He strongly urged all the stake holders in Guinea Bissau to respect their undertakings and plans to resolve the pokitical pass.

This is where the good stuff ends…..

In a surprise twist, leaders of ECOWAS have officially agreed in principle to accept Morocco–s bid for membership.

Now this is beyond stunning. Almost hard to believe really.

Morocco arrogantly left the OAU in 1984 because members voted to recognize the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, as the Polisario Front calls the territory.

To add insult to injury, in 1987 Morocco applied to join the European Communities ( the precursor to the present dat European Union). Of course the application was rejected on the grounds that Morocco was not considered to be a European country and hence could not join.

It is good to be back home after having been away for so long.
Those were the first words of Moroccan King Mohamed VI in a speech at the African Union Summit in February.

The speech came after avast majority of the AU member states voted to re-admit Morocco to the continental bloc after going rogue for 33 years.
But why is Morocco, a relatively wealthy north african country seeking membership in a West African Economic and Military Bloc?

Enshrined in the ECOWAS Charter is a geographic membership criterion. This alone disqualifies the north African state from membership. Then talk of trade, the geography and lack of robust transnational infrastructure makes trade between Morooco and ECOWAS nearly impossible or prohibitively expensive.

Also the European Union is Morocco’s biggest trading partner, constituting 55.7% of its trade with its near neighbour Spain and former colonial power France being the biggest beneficiaries. Besides trade lets not forget that Morocco is a member of the Arab Maghreb Union (AMU), which is a five country trade agreement with Algeria, Libya, Mauritania and Tunisia.

Add to that , Morocco has signed almost 1,000 agreements and treaties with various African countries since 1999. Moroccan banks have expanded through out Africa with a presence in 20 countries -more so than Nigeria and South Africa combined. The country’s government owned airliner Royal Air Maroc is one of Africa’s biggest airlines.

Nigeria and Ghana are just about the only two significant Anglophone countries in a predominantly Francophone region. The economic prowess of Nigeria and Ghana and Nigeria’s hard and soft power is what tilts the balance in favour of English speaking West Africa, and is perhaps the only reason tiny Anglophone States like Liberia and S-Leone have a voice.

The admission of a quasi francophone country like Morocco with an economy in the same league as Nigeria’s and a more advanced and capable military will for the first time since the creation of ECOWAS tilt the balance of power towards French West Africa. Let’s not forget the Western Sahara issue too.

The geography also means freedom of movements across Member states impractical with Morocco. This is a win win for Morocco. A home run. Nigeria is practically ceding its leadership role to Morocco, changing the regional identity from Anglophone to Francophone West Africa. This could very well be the end of Nigeria as we know it.

https://defensenigeria.com/2017/12/18/7016/

Why do you always post fake and rubbish news here. Do you do any research b4 copying and pasting senseless articles here. And who told you that Ecowas has admitted Morocco.

Fineman87:
Why do you always post fake and rubbish news here. Do you do any research b4 copying and pasting senseless articles here. And who told you that Ecowas has admitted Morocco.

visit his website and read his article...he clearly said morocco is admitted....

i dont know much....i only read......but i read on his website that morocco was accepted....majority of ecowas members atleast...

sooo,argueing about morocco on this thread makes no sense to me....

i see it as a done deal....

even haiti want to join au....

wheather they are already realy members,that i dont know....

tsdarkside:
visit his website and read his article...he clearly said morocco is admitted....

https://defensenigeria.com/

i dont know much....i only read......but i read on his website that morocco was accepted....majority of ecowas members atleast...

sooo,argueing about morocco on this thread makes no sense to me....

i see it as a done deal....

even haiti want to join au....

wheather they are already realy members,that i dont know....

Thats why i said pipu should do more research to ascertain the facts of an issue b4 going public. I hace a copy of the communique issued at the end of the Ecowas december summit and i can conclude that Moroccos application will not be successful. I followed this issue closely. Please dont believe everything u read online.

A poster has earlier stated the facts of the case. Please go back and read the truth.

Fineman87:
Thats why i said pipu should do more research to ascertain the facts of an issue b4 going public. I hace a copy of the communique issued at the end of the Ecowas december summit and i can conclude that Moroccos application will not be successful. I followed this issue closely. Please dont believe everything u read online.

well....lets wait and see....i still think its a good idea when morocco join ecowas.....

rdokoye:
The report is fake, Morocco wasn't discussed at the meeting, the agreement in principle was established 6 months ago. Since that time, there has been silence. ECOWAS was supposed to conclude Morocco's accession in November, then it was pushed to December, now it's been pushed to 2018.

ECOWAS don't look keen on Morocco anymore, because of the economic implications it'll have on Nigeria, primarily.

This is the Truth of the matter. Op is fond of copying and pasting rubbish articles. He does no research. Only copy amd paste and misleading gullible pipu.

Fineman87:
This is the Truth of the matter. Op is fond of copying and pasting rubbish articles. He does no research. Only copy amd paste and misleading gullible pipu.

their i disagree with you...the op is a sincere guy.....go to his website and see other articles from him.....

tsdarkside:
their i disagree with you...the op is a sincere guy.....go to his website and see other articles from him.....

Thats your business anyway. I am also a military analyst like Op and i know the websites he lifts his crap from. I can sniff the facts from the lies in those articles but the Op cant. He just copies and pastes ans spreads the lies.

Please let them come. ECOWAS is as Shitty useless as the 'T' in kiTchen.

Nigeria doesn't want to be the lead flying goose.

Nigeria doesn't want to lead the regional economic front.

The most it does is use its abysmal military resources for ECOMOG peace-keeping, brag about it but always suffer a sudden collapse in internal security when a major uprising occurs in Northern Nigeria.

Fineman87:
Thats your business anyway. I am also a military analyst like Op and i know the websites he lifts his crap from. I can sniff the facts from the lies in those articles but the Op cant. He just copies and pastes ans spreads the lies.

thats not nice of you to say something like that against him....he is against morocco joining...i am for.....

but because of that i will not go insulting him because he has other views....