₦airaland Forum

Desyner:
what a stupid question. What stop the northern governor too from building it from their own purse also?
Is NNPC for the north or under power ministry ? Aboki !

mikolo80:
what an ignorant answer.
the north IS using it's resources to build it.
it's called federal allocation dummy.
did you complain when they built oceanography school for you.? or universities or oil rigs?

mikolo80:
you're stupid.they are not asking for the car.
they already 'own' it not the south(they are just lamenting cos it's parked in their driveway meanwhile they not using said driveway) .
do you prefer the north just steal and loot the oil?

mikolo80:
what an ignorant answer.
the north IS using it's resources to build it.
it's called federal allocation dummy.
did you complain when they built oceanography school for you.? or universities or oil rigs?

Reference:
Honestly, I cannot believe we are this dumb as a people for these guys to have the audacity to talk rubbish like this. When a nation, a people are so ignorant of everything from how government works, to how democracy develops nations, and how countries build solid foundations for sustainable prosperity, some idiots will just appear out of nowhere to sell stories to mask their criminal intents.

Till tomorrow they cannot see the futility in the useless mega projects of absolutely zero feasibility. Piping vapour thousands of miles across the country with zero supporting infrastructure, negative track record of maintenance and hopeless economic benefit. The NNPC that cannot feed its white elephant refineries wants to step into a more difficult league called electricity.... honestly this is just sickening....

Obi1kenobi:
Maybe I'm going senile here, which is unusual for a young man in his 20's, but I can't see anywhere in the article it says the North is "using its resources to build it" or that Federal allocation is building it. Abeg, where you see that one, oga?

Desyner:
See am, mumu. Where is the 'car' ? The north is losing cos of its obssesion with oil.

mikolo80:
who owns the car ignoramus

mikolo80:
what is nnpc
no be you first mention north south
why you no say na your ancestor land make only una clan collect d whole 2 million barrels of oil daily.

iambabaG:
And so continues the Northernization agenda..
Imagine what these funds can achieve in the South; the Eastern part to be particular
Why not have a Solar Plate Field and utilise the scourging sun?

omohayek:
You are absolutely correct. Follies like this one illustrate why northerners in general (and Buhari in particular) are so adamantly opposed to privatization and deregulation, especially when it comes to NNPC and the entire oil sector: in a fully market-driven environment, in which oil sector companies are all run by rational return-maximizing investors, nobody in their right minds would locate anything to do with oil in the land-locked north, far away from where the raw materials are actually extracted; in addition, hardly any northerners would be picked for jobs at all but the most menial levels, so goodbye to Alhaji Dogonyaro being appointed boss of an organization in which his southern underlings are vastly smarter and better qualified than he is.

Nigeria's numerous loss-making parastatals are essentially all about providing meaningless "jobs" for a certain part of the country which still can't compete on merit even after nearly 60 years of the playing field being heavily tilted in its favor.

Obi1kenobi:
Still don't see what that has to do with this thread. NNPC is a state-owned oil corporation and it does no get one single drop of that oil from the North. So you can imagine why some people might feel aggrieved that all these transformative projects are getting sited in the North that contributes absolutely NOTHING to the corporation even as NNPC still fails to live up to its responsibilities in the communities from which it gets its wealth. Why are you people from up North such incurable sectionalists?

Desyner:
Mad man. You claimed the north got a 'car' already. My reference to a car was an analogy, dullardino007

mikolo80:
some countries have no oil yet they have refineries
must you have cassava farm before investing in garri or fufu factory.
oyinbo don't have cocoa yet they have chocolate factory.
I know why they feel aggrieved. what I don't know is why instead of building the refinery or killing all northerners they are lamenting here.
lamenting doesn't solve problem.
only action will.
north is taking action via nnp/govt / politics

south is making noise and collecting rice

why shouldn't north invest for its survival or thrival
who beg south not to give their self brain.
continue lamenting, while north is maximising oil loot

Obi1kenobi:
I don't know whether you're high on codeine or something (I hear it's all the rage these days among our Northern brothers),

but neither the NNPC, nor the FG is a Northern entity.

As I said before, the North does not contribute one single drop of oil to NNPC, yet looks to make all the gains in their shameless greed.

You keep asking why the South is not building it as if the North is building anything.

All that has happened is the worst tribalist to ever hold the Presidency has leveraged his power to ensure all that gains of his failed Presidency goes to the North.

The North is more than free to "invest" in its survival: with its own resources.

If you're going to exploit the resources of the Niger-Delta, at least have some self-respect and sense of shame and fairness and justice in making sure the South and the Niger Delta in particular are major beneficiaries of their own resources.

Abuja is the Federal Capital built with the Niger Delta's oyel money, yet no Southerner can ever be FCT minister.

Yet, the greedy clowns from up North are ready to die to fill every possible position in NNPC

or DPR or other oil industry parastatals with their kinsmen, despite the fact they're usually less qualified than Southerners and they don't contribute one single drop of oil.

mikolo80:
some countries have no oil yet they have refineries
must you have cassava farm before investing in garri or fufu factory.
oyinbo don't have cocoa yet they have chocolate factory.
I know why they feel aggrieved. what I don't know is why instead of building the refinery or killing all northerners they are lamenting here.
lamenting doesn't solve problem.
only action will.
north is taking action via nnp/govt / politics

south is making noise and collecting rice

why shouldn't north invest for its survival or thrival
who beg south not to give their self brain.
continue lamenting, while north is maximising oil loot

mikolo80:
clearly you are low on cheap weed



so why do you continue to mention north and south instead of saying Nigeria is investing in north
or is Kaduna not Nigeria again
is it not Nigerians that will work there
how is the north gaining from oil
almajIri or Boko or polio or poverty or what exactly


but you're the one that mentioned north and south now you're back pedalling. no argument hence rudeness due to lack of home training.
don't worry I full ground gadagba for your type


it's called politics
he's fighting for his people
your people sold you into slavery
we will use our oil and if you make fem we will genocide with our army



oil IS it's resource
get it through your thick skull with small brain
it is not your oil it is ours

we're talking survival of the fittest
this nincompoop is talking about shame fairness and justice
better wake up
Oya go and force THEM to have develop your land

Yoruba say even mad man go heap ridge towards himself with hoe


when a whole fisherman was Oga patapata presido, tell me, what single thing did you or your region gain from him


while south south run and hide online
and this right here is why north will continue to hammer on south head while all you can do is hiccup on Nairaland
the only Niger deltas with balls (Tompolo dem)have all collected their own share and sold you into eternal servitude
less qualified doesn't mean unqualified. so long as they have minimum qualifications I don't know what your problem is.

Blue3k:
For once I'll have to give you credit for making sense. Even here is screaming bloody murder over nothing. They say government being tribalistic but forget the Que Ibo power plant in Akwa Ibom is same type of project describes in this article. The project is private driven with a bit of public sector support. They wailers were complaining then saying Dangote and Sanusi taking over not knowing Mobil Nigeria pulled out first before they stepped in.

Sure it's best to site plant closet to source. Nobody disputes that. NNPC is pretty inept company in litany of ways. At the same time if Nigeria can pipe has to Ghana without crying they should start today with northern Nigeria. The gas pipeline the approve North south is probably how they are feeding these plants. These plants may not appear for a decade like Que Ibo power plant.

The might run into cost problem likr they did in the sokoto IPP. If they don't have available gas they'll have to turn to some more expensive fuel source. In the case of the sokoto IPP electricity is 3 times more expensive.

Obi1kenobi:
This one is clearly missing a few screws upstairs.
No point "debating" with window-licking reetards, really. Goodnight.

Blue3k:
For once I'll have to give you credit for making sense. Even here is screaming bloody murder over nothing. They say government being tribalistic but forget the Que Ibo power plant in Akwa Ibom is same type of project describes in this article. The project is private driven with a bit of public sector support. They wailers were complaining then saying Dangote and Sanusi taking over not knowing Mobil Nigeria pulled out first before they stepped in.

Sure it's best to site plant closet to source. Nobody disputes that. NNPC is pretty inept company in litany of ways. At the same time if Nigeria can pipe has to Ghana without crying they should start today with northern Nigeria. The gas pipeline the approve North south is probably how they are feeding these plants. These plants may not appear for a decade like Que Ibo power plant.

The might run into cost problem likr they did in the sokoto IPP. If they don't have available gas they'll have to turn to some more expensive fuel source. In the case of the sokoto IPP electricity is 3 times more expensive.

Obi1kenobi:
Yes, one 540MW plant in a region that actually provides the fuel source is equivalent to three plants that can contribute 4,600MW to the grid. The maths certainly adds up. I'm not sure the relevance of the Dangote/Sanusi claims. Perhaps, address it to those "wailers" that made them rather than ridiculous generalizations.

And who are these "private sector" drivers of these projects. You acknowledge the technical problems involved in siting these projects far away from the driving source. Adding that to the disparity in the siting of the projects. Yet, you're here talking about wailers?

mikolo80:
are you minding our ppl they enjoy masturbatiNG to north south symphony not realising that obj didn't do anything for the south same as jonadummy they're all thieves and we are looking at them instead of getting off our keyboards to fix it

Blue3k:
If they aren't equal so what? Is anyone stopping private sector from building more plants in These places. The mention of Dangote and Sanusi is too shoe that people will wail no matter what. Go look at thread and see for yourself. The generalization is true.

I don't know who the private sector operators will be. The government doesnt even know till they get offers. The story doesn't even have a date or timeline. What's the point losing shirt over an approval. The technical issues aren't impossible to remedy. If Nigeria can pipe gas to Ghana to fuel their power plants then these places can run just as easily. Its really that simple as long as nobody blows up pipelines.

The West African gas pipeline is 678 km and works fine.



The projects are pie in sky till the can get investors to sign on. Anyone losing their shirt over this is tressong themselves out for nothing. If Niger Republic has gas get it from them. Nigeria already does import crude from them. I would think it makes more sense to make use of the tons coal in North. That would be quicker and wasier way to power the plants.

Desyner:
I am no fool. Kaduna refineries builders are. If the ND isn't better than your tramadol drinking and codeine north why are you going over a thousand miles of pipeline to get gas from them.

mikolo80:
clearly you are low on cheap weed



so why do you continue to mention north and south instead of saying Nigeria is investing in north
or is Kaduna not Nigeria again
is it not Nigerians that will work there
how is the north gaining from oil
almajIri or Boko or polio or poverty or what exactly, ur father mumu


but you're the one that mentioned north and south now you're back pedalling. no argument hence rudeness due to lack of home training.
don't worry I full ground gadagba for your type


it's called politics
he's fighting for his people
your people sold you into slavery
we will use our oil and if you make fem we will genocide with our army



oil IS it's resource
get it through your thick skull with small brain
it is not your oil it is ours, who give to u stupid go claim it to see what will happen to u

we're talking survival of the fittest
this nincompoop is talking about shame fairness and justice
better wake up
Oya go and force THEM to have develop your land

Yoruba say even mad man go heap ridge towards himself with hoe


when a whole fisherman was Oga patapata presido, tell me, what single thing did you or your region gain from him


while south south run and hide online
and this right here is why north will continue to hammer on south head while all you can do is hiccup on Nairaland
the only Niger deltas with balls (Tompolo dem)have all collected their own share and sold you into eternal servitude
less qualified doesn't mean unqualified. so long as they have minimum qualifications I don't know what your problem is.

iambabaG:
And so continues the Northernization agenda..
Imagine what these funds can achieve in the South; the Eastern part to be particular
Why not have a Solar Plate Field and utilise the scourging sun?

Blue3k:
For once I'll have to give you credit for making sense. Even here is screaming bloody murder over nothing. They say government being tribalistic but forget the Que Ibo power plant in Akwa Ibom is same type of project describes in this article. The project is private driven with a bit of public sector support. They wailers were complaining then saying Dangote and Sanusi taking over not knowing Mobil Nigeria pulled out first before they stepped in.

Sure it's best to site plant closet to source. Nobody disputes that. NNPC is pretty inept company in litany of ways. At the same time if Nigeria can pipe has to Ghana without crying they should start today with northern Nigeria. The gas pipeline the approve North south is probably how they are feeding these plants. These plants may not appear for a decade like Que Ibo power plant.

The might run into cost problem likr they did in the sokoto IPP. If they don't have available gas they'll have to turn to some more expensive fuel source. In the case of the sokoto IPP electricity is 3 times more expensive.

omohayek:
You say the project is "private drive with a bit of public sector support", but where are the private drivers of which you speak? No for-profit company in their right mind would voluntarily opt to locate such facilities in the north, far away from the raw materials and in a region with far less human capital to draw on. Besides, which private sector players would ever "pair" with a Nigerian parastatal that has never run anything with success in more than 40 years?

These proposals are rubbish from start to finish, and even if they never see the light of day, they are revealing about the sectional, economically nonsensical priorities of Buhari's government. You don't plan to expend scarce resources on economically irrational proposals like these unless you're allowing tribal and regional factors to drive your thinking at the expense of ROI calculations.

I'll repeat: NNPC itself needs to be abolished, and the entire energy sector deregulated and opened up to foreign investment. Only then will we see what investments make most sense and where - and I'm betting that not a single one of any such investments will be located in the north, not even when they're being made by northerners like Dangote.